Difference of opinion on Lynch fines


There’s no dispute that Seahawks running back Marshawn Lynch returned to the fold on Thursday with an adjusted contract that moves money around but gives him no new dollars, in theory.  (It nevertheless makes $1 million a lot easier to earn, and nudges $500,000 from 2015 to 2014.)

In contrast, there’s a sharp dispute over whether Lynch’s fines in the amount of $30,000 per day will be collected.  One source with direct knowledge of the situation tells PFT the fines will be forgiven.  Another source with direct knowledge of the situation tells PFT the fines won’t be forgiven.

As former Steelers receiver Hines Ward said in June on NBCSN’s Pro Football Talk, teams routinely opt not to enforce the fines associated with training-camp holdouts.  For his own holdout in 2005, Ward said that the team did not collect the money.

Any no-fine arrangement typically entails a no-talk-about-the-no-fine provision, which ensures that other players don’t believe they’ll be able to stay away from training camp without consequence.

In this case, with the Seahawks very concerned about the precedent that would be set by giving Lynch a new contract only two years into his current one, the Seahawks are likely just as concerned about the precedent that would be set by giving Lynch a pass on his fines.

Bottom line?  The Seahawks are forgiving the fines, unless they aren’t.

20 responses to “Difference of opinion on Lynch fines

  1. The G.M. looks like a fool when he kept saying next man up, we have a process and we’re following it…

    hey, here’s more money lynch…

    i’m not saying they shouldn’t have given him more money (they shouldn’t by the way) as my point is what their G.M. stated several times and then he did the opposite.

    don’t say anything and then let the situation play out.

    other players know it means nothing when the G.M. talks about next man up when they’re holding out in the future.

  2. No reason for the hawks to dissclose. Looks like a win win in the end. Next yr big contracts due and thier plan is in place. By moving money up this easier to trade him in 15. Cant afford to keep him thats a fact. Just get him out the NFC 🙂

  3. Fines are fines based on the rules and contracts.

    Why should they ever be forgiven?

    Then why have them at all?

    Who paid the last fine of this type?

  4. yes of course, the GM looks like a fool. The same GM who stole Richard Sherman in the 5th round, Kam Chancellor in the 5th rd, Byron Maxwell in the 6th rd, and Russell Wilson in the 3rd rd. The same GM who has adroitly managed the cap with extensions to key guys while letting others walk who aren’t deemed essential for the future (Golden Tate, Chris Clemons, Breno Giacomini). Yep, he should really get his resume ready.

  5. One source with direct knowledge of the situation tells PFT the fines will be forgiven. Another source with direct knowledge of the situation tells PFT the fines won’t be forgiven.
    At least one of those sources DOES NOT HAVE direct knowledge of the situation. This isn’t something that can be easily confused. It is a yes or no deal.

    If Seattle forgives any fines, they should forgive no more than half. That would at least deter future holdouts from expecting their would be no penalty for skipping work.

  6. I love it! This guy knows this about Seattle’s GM & the other one knows about Seattle’s players, yet nobody knew they’d win the Super Bowl except for real Hawks fans who watched it be built! Keep guessing fellas!

  7. Hines Ward is the first blocking wr in the history of the game, so good there were rules made up for him. Google video search for “Hines Ward crushes Ed Reed” and see what comes up. Defensive players continually sniveled about him (“How dare someone block me!”) and he just smiled back at them every time. He caught everything ever thrown at him and finished with exactly 1000 receptions. He’ll be an easy call for the Hall of Fame!

    …oh, what was the topic about again?

  8. jeffesky, what are you talking about? The Seahawks are already $23 million under the cap next year even with Lynch’s $7.5 million on the books. They could easily extend him after this season & knock that number in half, not that they’ll need to. That’s plenty of space to re-sign Wilson, Wright, Avril and anybody else they want to keep.

    The league wide ignorance of the Seahawks cap situation continues to amaze me. I suppose it’s wishful thinking by the fans of teams with inferior rosters.

  9. snoqualmieterry says:
    Aug 1, 2014 11:41 AM
    Flashpoint, Hines Ward was a dirty player for most of his career. That’s a fact.


    What you just said is an opinion. That’s a fact.

  10. Lynch got only what he would’ve gotten if he’d shown up for camp on the first day. Money was moved around, and the $1M he has added in guarantees would’ve been earned anyway if he met certain incentives. Rice retires last week: his salary? $1M. Lynch gets$1M more in guaranteed money this week: coincidence? I think not. If anything, this deal actually helps the Seahawks’ cap situation next year by reducing Lynch’s cap hit next year by $500K.

  11. Rumor all along was that the team was willing to consider moving money around but not to add any money or guarantee significant amounts for next year. This sounds like the team got what it wanted all along basically. And it will make it easier to pick up some good draft slots when they trade him next year.

    Other rumor was that it was the league that didn’t want the fines to be forgiven, which isn’t surprising since “God”dell in NY doesn’t realize Seattle is the 12th biggest media market and the Hawks are followed in 5-6 states out here. Last thing they want is a Hawks repeat so time to tweak the rules and sow dissent with the big player.

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