Report: Ray Rice losing support in Ravens locker room

AP

Throughout the waves of negative publicity created by punching his wife in the face, Ray Rice has always been able to count on the Ravens for support.

Fans gave him a standing ovation at practice. The team’s PR director wrote a 1,200-word essay on what a great guy Rice was. Coach John Harbaugh said he was proud of the way Rice had handled it (though not proud of the act).

But some of that backing may be slipping away.

A Ravens player told Mike Freeman of Bleacher Report that any support Rice had in the locker room had evaporated.

I don’t think he has very much support now at all,” the player texted. “I think it’s gone.”

The player said Rice told teammates initially that he was defending himself from an attacking Janay Palmer — such that that matters — and the video released this morning contradicts that flimsy attempt at justification.

We’ve already seen a number of players on other teams come out firing after the video of him dropping his wife with one punch emerged.

But if his own guys are turning their backs on him, it might be hard for him to continue.

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157 responses to “Report: Ray Rice losing support in Ravens locker room

  1. I’m NOT a Ravens fan, but respectfully, why should this video change anything?

    After all, we already saw him pull her out of an elevator, unconscious. And we all knew that she became unconscious as a result of domestic violence.

    Did we assume that he knocked her out by slapping her on the wrist or flicking her ear?

    All this video does is show the details of what we *HAD* to know once we saw her unconscious on the floor of the hotel.

  2. The Ravens and their fans will rally behind him. They’ve got a statue of a murderer at their stadium. Wife beaters fit right in.

  3. If his own team has lost faith, hes done in Baltimore. The ravens will be forced to release him. It would be wise for the nfl to suspend him the entire year after he is released.

  4. Remember how Richie Incognito was suspended indefinitely and ultimately released because he was being mean to a teammate? Remember the uproar over Mike Priefer making a bad joke (the team suspended him three games, not the NFL, but still)? Remember Josh Gordon losing his season because one of his samples was barely above a very low criterion?

  5. Suuuurrrreeee. It’s more likely that their agents told them how much money they’d lose and questions they’d be asked by supporting Rice now that the video is out.

    The facts of the case haven’t changed guys.

    Unlike Ray Lewis’s white suit, Ray Rice’s video did come to light.

    That’s the only difference between a statue in your honor and being cut. The guys in the locker room really don’t care.

  6. The Ravens and John Harbaugh are saying what a great guy Ray Rice is. The NFL and the Ravens need to just cut the PR crap, be MEN, and do the right thing like they should have done in the first place by cutting him/suspending him indefinitely.

  7. Hopefully he is cut soon. I also hope the Ravens will
    immediately pull all Rice merchandise, and allow any fan with Rice merchandise to exchange it.

  8. I don’t fully understand the outrage all of sudden. What did people think the video would look like??? We knew he knocked her out, the NFL knew, they punished him (not enough, but they punished him) and now there’s a visual and we want to try him again?

  9. The Ravens could have avoided all this bad publicity and headache if they had just cut him from the start. They chose to keep him because they are still on the hook for the next 2 seasons and million$. His play has diminished and so has the support from everyone. If Baltimore Ravens had any guts they would just cut him today but they won’t.

  10. Thanks for taking the title of “Dirtiest Player in the League.”

    Signed,

    Ndamukong Suh

  11. No one in Baltimore is supporting him today. I can tell you first hand that everyone on the radio, everyone on social media, and everyone in the press is absolutely excoriating him today.

    If the mood stays like this in Baltimore then I can’t really see him returning.

  12. Harbaugh even went on record saying he was proud of how Rice handled the situation. Wow – just wow.

    Compare this to how the Pats handled Herndo.

  13. I am seeing alot of comments on here about Ravens fans giving him support. Yes I am a Ravens fan and NO I don’t support this at all. I actually think he needs cut. And I have talked to alot of my fellow Ravens fans and they want him cut as well. Not all Ravens fan’s are defending him. As matter of fact I am seeing alot of posts from Ravens fans that feel the same way as me since this video came out. I for one said he should have been cut from the very beginning. For the few that are still gonna defend him…… YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES. Cut him now Baltimore or along with me you are gonna lose alot of support and fans !!!!

  14. I’m a huge Ravens fan and season ticket holder for 10 years. I thought the punishment was light even if he was defending himself from an attacking woman. After seeing the video I urge the Ravens to cut him with the least damage done in terms of salary cap to the team. But regardless of the cap damage it will cause, he should never play another down for the Baltimore Ravens.

  15. Short man abusing a woman – this isn’t unigue to the NFL. This plays out all the time. Difference being that the legal system seems more apt to properly prosecute if the offender isn’t a celebrity. My biggest problem is with the NJ DA who rolled over so completely.

  16. I believe Rice should be suspended for at least the season. That said, for all the people saying that Baltimore should cut him, this is a results oriented league. Wife beaters and child abusers have been employed for years in it – do you really believe that there won’t be a dozen teams lined up to sign Rice the minute he clears waivers?

  17. And yet she went ahead and married him anyway. I wonder why?….$$$$$$$

    Curious how law enforcement could view that tape and not come up with a harsher sentence.

  18. Just for arguments sake, let’s say we do believe RG and that they never saw the tape. I have to ask,
    1) how did you imagine that she was knocked out?
    2) now that the evidence is out there, what NEW actions will you take?

    Believe it or not, I find Rice’s behavior AFTER he knocked her out, to be equally as disturbing. He didn’t even check to see if she was breathing or seriously hurt.

    If she was my daughter, he’d already be dead. Seriously. That woman has a lifetime abuse ahead of her with him (and probably before this incident too)

  19. The NFL chose I Hate Myself For Loving You, a song about a woman being repeatedly mistreated by her man, punctuated with yelps of “OW!” to get the point across, as the tune for its Monday Night Football promos.

    Obviously that does not excuse Rice, but it demonstrates the NFL’s dismissive view of the subject.

    Even if the paltry two games out doesn’t hold, everyone knows Goodell’s “suspended indefinitely” really only means “Let’s stall this one and see if it dies out on its own, or if we have to do the right thing at the expense of a few lost jersey sales out of our billions in annual profit.”

  20. All the evidence and legality aside. How can (you) root for any of these offenders (abusers, predators, DUI people, liars, PED users / roid ragers, bigots, animal killers repeat offenders) or their team? Fantasy stats aside…game on the line, do you really, are you really cheering for rice (no capital letter on purpose) to make a big play? Can you hold your nose long enough to feel good if Vick makes a good play to help “your” team? I am a lifelong, long life sports fan. I’m also a father, dog owner, brother and son. I’m not saying don’t let any of the above feed their family. Just, get out of the spotlight, get a job and work for a living.

  21. ummmmm..if I’m not mistaken wasn’t it already widely known that she HAD been knocked unconscious during the incident?? How do these people think this happened? He didn’t knock her over the head with a pillow. The commissioner is totally clueless..he’s too busy pushing “heads up football” telling kids NOT to play if their coach is not “certified” .

  22. It’s no different than what everyone knew. He was wrong and still is. Telling is that he wasn’t prosecuted heavier. Maybe because he was being attacked…..he’s still wrong. They both were.

  23. To be fair, Ray Rice did not knock her out. Her face meeting the elevator railing knocked her out. He merely coordinated the introduction.

  24. u know this all could have been avoided if he had just told the truth from the very beginning….wow…just wow!!!!

  25. Looks like some commentors are equating Ray Rice to Ray Lewis. I didn’t know there was a video of Ray Lewis “murdering” someone.

  26. green41563 says: Sep 8, 2014 1:16 PM

    I’m NOT a Ravens fan, but respectfully, why should this video change anything?

    After all, we already saw him pull her out of an elevator, unconscious. And we all knew that she became unconscious as a result of domestic violence.

    Did we assume that he knocked her out by slapping her on the wrist or flicking her ear?

    All this video does is show the details of what we *HAD* to know once we saw her unconscious on the floor of the hotel.
    __________________________________

    I think you might have some poor read comprehension, in the article stated above, “The player said Rice told teammates initially that he was defending himself from an attacking Janay Palmer ” in the video that is clearly not the case. His defense was already using the ‘Victim was the aggressor’ excuse. The video contradicts that, and show that Ray Rice was cold and calculated when dealing out the punishment.

    So, since the league never saw this video (allegedly) and were only going by what Ray and his wife told them, then the facts have now changed. The guys donzo in the NFL.

  27. Large fine and long suspension as a minimum. That was assault. As an organization, I would cut him to make a statement as to what type of team and organization the Raven’s are. It would be interesting to see which team picks him up.

  28. It’s official, Ray Rice is a distraction and his talent (see 2013 stats) does not warrant keeping him. Time to move on and cut him.

  29. Don’t forget to bow to Ray Lewis’ statue next time on your way into the stadium. For you to recognize that he’s now lost support and he should be banished, doesn’t speak to your sense of right or wrong. Looks like you took your finger out of your ass long enough to see which way the wind was blowing. Hypocrite!

  30. I think it’s probably best for the Ravens to cut him due to the “crucify him” mentality of americans in the days of videos instantly being available to millions. There is too much outrage from the self-rightous NFL fan base which won’t let this go, and partly for good reason.

    However, I hope he gets another shot somewhere else in a year or two. I think he made a mistake, he was drunk, and one act like this shouldn’t condemn you for your life. Forgiveness is a quality people should learn. His gf married him. Obviously she is over it. I hope that through going through all of this, they are stronger as a married couple going forward.

  31. “If he gets cut will the Ravens get hit by the salary cap?”

    14 million on dead money.

    Overthecap named Rice’s contract Baltimore’s worst in spite of Flacco’s contract since he is over dead-moneyed, signed before the RB market started to drop and made worse by his off-field issues.

    Ravens pretty much face an Aaron Hernandez situation if they release him.

  32. John needs to be a bigger man than his brother and at the very least suspend this guy for the entire season. With very strict procedure to get reinstated.

    Same punishment leveled against a young College running back who made the same mistake.
    Key being, reinstatement is not a given it must be earned

  33. We all know you shouldn’t hit a woman……but as a Niners fan and in Ray’s defense, she pushed him in the face before getting on the elevator. She pushed/hit him in the face in the elevator and that’s when he struck her back. She came after him again and he knocked her out.

    Self defense if you ask me. I’m sorry but if anyone walks up to me and pushes/hits me in the face, I’m not gonna stand there and say “oh, it’s cool, you can hit me all you want”, and just take it.

    It’s a catch-22 and a slippery slope here.

  34. Are you really comparing how the Pats handled the guys who murdered a guy and is accused in another double murder to the handling of the Ravens in the Ray Rice case. And to lexd75 I love the way you twist the facts to suit your argument. He says he is proud of him for admitting it was wrong and for doing all that he can to make it right. Your boy Hernandez is still proclaiming his innocence. Harbaugh is not supporting Ray Rice for what he did, but for at least trying to take ownership.

  35. If he’s not released along with being suspended for the year then the NFL is corrupt based on emphasis on PED’s. If a player can be banned for life on thier 3rd offense using PED’s then knocking out a woman the first time should be grounds for a life time ban in my opinion. At least release him and suspend him for the year. Anything less is a flat out joke. That video was unreal, disgusting!

  36. I wish the media would stop perpetuating lies.

    The entire stadium was on their feet because the team was being introduced. It’s not like they all stood up when Rice’s name was mentioned. They were already standing.

  37. The NFL has seen this video or they willfully refused to view it. Rice’s attorney had a copy and the NFL could’ve told them to give them a copy before punishment was handed down. Why is Rice’s jersey still available for purchase on the NFL shop site?

  38. A defensive lineman needs to supply Mr. 5’8″ Ray Rice with a left hook to the face, in the showers, and let him know what it feels like.

    Mr. Goodell – You are a wimp and a man without integrity-we are awaiting your revised ruling that bans Mr. Rice front the NFL for life.

    NFL= National Fugitive League

  39. Yes because being slapped back handed and charged at doesn’t count as being attacked. Ask yourself if a guy did that to you what would your response be?

  40. The most troubling news that has come from this incident was the Baltimore fans giving this woman beater a STANDING OVATION. They should be ashamed of themselves. This shows me that fans want their team to win AT ANY EXPENSE. Sad facts.

  41. raidordie says:
    Sep 8, 2014 1:21 PM
    Ravens did what goodell didn’t have the guts to do. Goodell needs to resign ASAP
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    What did the Ravens do other than tweet the beaten woman’s apology, pimp Ray out in front of fans to get a standing ovation, have the coach talk about what a great guy Ray is. In a nutshell what has the Ravens organization do that the NFL has not? Unless there is some news that you know and the rest of us don’t. They have never wavered from their support of this monster.

  42. Anyone that thinks seeing the video doesn’t make a difference isn’t living in the real world.

    Of course it makes a difference. And not just in this case. Vick won over a lot of support after applying for reinstatement. If there was video of the actual events, I seriously doubt there would be much if any.

    You can’t hide from you own eyes. Caring about something/someone opens us to plausible deniability. The more people care; the less plausible the explanation needs to be. You see it with criminals families all the time. Didn’t Rice’s father in law say he forgave him. Not sure he would be so quick if the video was out.

    This was obviously mishandled at every level. At least the commissioner owned his portion. The Ravens need to atone as well.

  43. mmmratings says:
    Sep 8, 2014 1:21 PM
    I don’t fully understand the outrage all of sudden. What did people think the video would look like??? We knew he knocked her out, the NFL knew, they punished him (not enough, but they punished him) and now there’s a visual and we want to try him again?

    Let me explain.

    His excuse was that he was defending himself…now, you say, we all knew some sort of Domestic Violence caused the K.O. True, but we all have been around a really drunk person and seen how easy it would be to injure or knock over said person, especially if you’re a trained athlete, just by aggressivly raising a hand and creating contact you didn’t intend but should’ve controled so some trouble is worth while.

    And then there’s unleashing a Tyson style left hook to face of your wife, watching her smash into a railing and then coldly dragging her like a carcass with her personals showing for the world to see.

    If you don’t see what changes from the first video being released to this one then you’re simply trying WAY to hard to just argue any other point of view. Plenty changes the moment a video of this degree come out. Just imagine your daughter was the one in the first video and then 2-3 months later you finally view that 2nd video…would anything change for you?

  44. And yet the DA had this too and he essentially “got off free”. How can that be? More people beside the NFL looked the other way.

  45. Ray Rice is repulsive, however something we need to keep in mind is that TMZ has edited the video and the raw version is far less conclusive.

  46. he has played his last down in the NFL, in my opinion. The video makes him untouchable. I agree that a dozen teams would sign him after a conviction for domestic violence, sure. But no fan base can get passed this video.

    And stop trying to make this about Ravens fans. Give it a rest. This is a shame for the NFL across the board. No fan base would have reacted differently six weeks ago or this morning.

  47. Will the Ravens build a statue of him next to lying under oath and witness to a murder Ray Lewis?

  48. To be fair, Ray Rice did not knock her out. Her face meeting the elevator railing knocked her out. He merely coordinated the introduction.

    Very astute observation.

  49. If I remember correctly, wasn’t she charged at the same time he was?

    If this is the case, what the hell was she charged with? Failure to take a good right cross?

    True coward; I would not want him as my team mate!

  50. What a bunch of nonsense. Just because a video emerges of an offense that has already been adjudicated should a case be re-tried ? Does actually viewing the offense really change anything ? Of course not. It was a despicable act & he got off light & it happens everyday. While he probably should have been punished more severely, it’s too late now. All the griping should be directed at Goodell & the NFL. They bought the farm on this one with the slap on the wrist punishment.

  51. Being released won’t be his only worry. They could still charge him criminally and the media firestorm will probably force the do-nothing prosecutors to do that to save some face. He won’t be playing anywhere if he’s in jail.

  52. Rice has to go for sure, but Goodell MUST go as well. He dropped the ball and needs to pay with his job.

  53. And just so people know, once Ray Rice comes back and scores that first TD, all his players and fans will easily forget. You actually think his teammates really care about his off field actions? As long as he balls out, they won’t care, trust me.

  54. Even the Patriots cut Hernandez and absorbed his cap which is more than Rice’s and the didn’t have film of him committing a crime.

  55. margegundersonbrainerd says:
    Sep 8, 2014 1:31 PM
    The NFL chose I Hate Myself For Loving You, a song about a woman being repeatedly mistreated by her man, punctuated with yelps of “OW!” to get the point across, as the tune for its Monday Night Football promos.

    Obviously that does not excuse Rice, but it demonstrates the NFL’s dismissive view of the subject.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    What!? Why would you lie like that just to make a point. That song is about cheating not domestic violence. It in no way demonstrates a dismissive view on domestic violence

  56. The uproar from fans and players will get ray rice suspended longer than 2 weeks. He should pretty much go on a hiatus and see what the future holds for him. His chance of playing in the nfl again are not looking to great. Nobody will want to play with him they will only wanna play against him to beat him up.

  57. thisguy124 says:
    Sep 8, 2014 1:35 PM
    People overract too much.

    Says the guy that probably punched out a woman

  58. green41563 says:Sep 8, 2014 1:16 PM

    I’m NOT a Ravens fan, but respectfully, why should this video change anything?

    After all, we already saw him pull her out of an elevator, unconscious. And we all knew that she became unconscious as a result of domestic violence.

    Did we assume that he knocked her out by slapping her on the wrist or flicking her ear?

    All this video does is show the details of what we *HAD* to know once we saw her unconscious on the floor of the hotel.
    **********************************************
    Seeing the video makes a huge difference. It portrayed him as not having any remorse for what he did. In addition, it illustrated how he dragged her out of the elavator and even kicked her legs to push them away from the elevator’s door. He didn’t even bother to hold or comfort her. He just let her lay on the cement floor as though she meant nothing to him.

  59. My question is HOW IN THE HECK did they think that girl got rendered unconscious? This latest video merely filled in a gap that was perfectly apparent long ago.

  60. Convenient timing by either NFL or Ray Rice’s attorneys. Thought it would be somehow overlooked after the season started.

  61. Seriously….. This stuff happens every day all the time… It’s horrible if a celeb does it but not your neighbor down the street? It’s all bad no matter who it is.

  62. To all of you who think no more discipline is needed against Ray Rice, you are the cancer cells that are overtaking this country. There is NEVER a good reason to hit a woman. A real man knows his strength and uses it to defend, not assault a loved one. Playing professional football is a privilege for those who can live up to that privilege. Time to clean house and make a statement, or you can kiss the NFL goodbye. THE TIME IS NOW.

  63. I wonder what Mrs. Owner, Mrs. GM, and Mrs. Head Coach are saying to their husbands. If you don’t think these strong woman have imput, you are wrong. Remember when Mrs Kraft got the Nebraska rookie cut?

  64. Not coincidently, San Francisco is very interested in the prospect of adding another high caliber individual into their locker room.

  65. Ray Rice is a huge idiot, but please tell me how him being a huge idiot takes anything away from how big of an idiot Josh Gordon is. This guy puts himself in bad situations and then hopes to get off on technicalities. It is not as if he wasnt given more than one chance. You know the rules going in. Just because people believe Marijuana should be legalized doesn’t change the fact that it isnt. Hopefully we just start to see some consistent punishment.

  66. Says the guy that probably punched out a woman
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    No, it’s just that people really do overract too much. How did people think she went unconscious in the first place? This is just merely putting a video to it. It doesn’t change anything. Everybody should have known this is what happened in the elevator. The woman went on to marry him anyway, so everybody needs to stop overracting and move on.

  67. So Ray Rice knocking his fiancé unconscious in an elevator is news??? Ummm, when I went to bed last night it was September and it was the start of the 2014 regular season and I wake up and it’s FEBRUARY wtf??? Did I stumble upon a time vortex??

    *SPOILER ALERT*

    I know you guys have 3 long months until the NFL Draft, so in case you can’t wait, Johnny Football ends up going to Cleveland(but not with the 4th or 26th picks!!!!) So adjust your mock drafts accordingly !

    I just realized, I have a second chance with that girl at the coffee shop now… I’m so glad I woke up 7 months in the past!!!

  68. I understand why Raven fan is defending Ray Rice, I mean they defended Ray Lewis who went out with his boys, stabbed two people to death, disposed of his cloths, and he never saw what happened that night. I bet if there was a video or Ray Lewis stabbing those tow guys to death, Raven fan would still be defending him……just like Ray Rice.

  69. i wonder where all these appalled and disguested Ravens fans were when Ray Lewis was associated with murderers and murder.
    now they built him a statue.
    The ownership didnt bat an eye with Ray.
    murder does not equal knocking a woman out with one punch.
    both are the acts of violent criminals but not equal.

  70. Shocker. He has the support of his coach though.

    This is a that supported and feted a guy who was, at worst, involved in a double murder, or at best, is knowingly involved in a cover up and withholding information that would allow proper prosecution of whomever is responsible for killing two men.

    Hypocrites, all of them. Just like Ayanbejo. Outspoken ‘rights’ guy, yet didn’t have a problem lining up next to Ray Lewis.

  71. I’m not all for lynching the man as many of you are. However, I do believe that he should be cut. He needs time away (i.e., 1+ years) to get his life in order (if he’s willing to put in the work).

    Only then will the court of public opinion begin to soften and the olive branch of second chances be extended.

  72. ray lewis kills a man – gets to play in super bowl

    ray rice hits a woman – gets convicted like he was ray lewis

  73. If he wasn’t Ray Rice the football player, but instead Ray Rice the mechanic, or Ray Rice the school teacher, he would be arrested.

    Huge black eye for the NFL right now, their hand should be forced to take action against him at this point.

  74. Rice should been brutally honest in the first place. I know he said he hit her but he should have known that the video was still going to get bought by the mass media, therefore I think have been more specific of his attack on her. Ah, I feel terrible for him. This will drain him mentally and emotionally. I hope he has a good support system at home

  75. Just b/c we don’t have a video of Dez Bryant beating his own Mother’s face doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be in this conversation.

  76. Why is this guy even employed? This is NO mistake, this is pure and utter physical violence. Where is Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton on this matter? This is sence less violence. Weird isn’t it? He has no business playing in this league or any other. POS.

  77. The investigation needs to re-opened…
    1. did rice lie to the commissioner?
    2. did the commissioner lie to press and the public?
    3. how did tmz get the video when the mighty NFL couldnt?

    If Rice lied to Goodell, Rice’s punishment needs to be adjusted to fit the crime.

    If Roger Goodell lied in any way…he must be fired.

    TMZ was able to get their hands on the video when the NFL could not…or did not want to get it.

    The NFL owners want Roger Goodell to be in charge of the new NFL Drug policy…yea…like the players and their union should agree to that.

  78. Harbaugh even went on record saying he was proud of how Rice handled the situation. Wow – just wow.

    Compare this to how the Pats handled Herndo.

    Remember his brother said, the 49ers will not tolerate any player accused of domestic violence, then a Couple Days later a key member of his team is accused and he changes his tune. Sll about the W’s

  79. If I do this when I get home from work to my wife and video tape it, provide that video to the cops, I go to jail for a long time. No past arrests for abuse, no prior convictions of any kind.

    Why is Ray Rice not in jail right now?

  80. and even if he’s not cut, every linebacker in the league is going to be itching at that first chance to ‘meet’ him in the hole. Good luck getting out of this season in 1 piece.

  81. What about the one question I don’t recall hearing anyone ask…

    Why the hell did she marry him?

  82. I wonder if other professional sports leagues will be taking similar stance to domestic violence after this series of mistakes by the nfl and the ravens.

  83. macjacmccoy says:
    Sep 8, 2014 1:40 PM
    Yes because being slapped back handed and charged at doesn’t count as being attacked. Ask yourself if a guy did that to you what would your response be?
    ————————————————-

    That’s what I was thinking…he is shown spitting on her (which is wrong of course and she shouldn’t put up with it)…but he didn’t start the hitting, she did.

    Throughout the video, she hits him twice and then charges at him…she’s already shown she’s willing to strike him, so it’s fair to assume that when she’s charging him she’s going to hit him again. The correct response would be to just restrain her, and he obviously has some anger issues if he’s spitting on her to begin with…but then again the correct response to being spit on isn’t to hit the other person either and honestly…if you don’t want to get hit back, don’t hit someone.

    I’d love nothing more than to join the outrage, but what I see is two people not knowing how to deal with their temper and a woman who thinks hitting someone bigger and stronger than her is a good idea when she isn’t in any physical danger.

  84. “Fans gave him a standing ovation at practice”. That’s all you need to know about Ravens fans. I guess bronze statues for Rice and Ray Lewis are next.

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