NFL says it requested Ray Rice video from law enforcement officials only

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In response to the claim from TMZ that the NFL didn’t request from the casino the video captured of the blow to the head that knocked out Ray Rice’s then-fiancée, the NFL doesn’t directly say whether it requested the video from the casino.

But the obvious implication is that the league didn’t directly ask for the video from the casino, from Rice, or from anyone other than the law enforcement agency handling the case.

“Security for Atlantic City casinos is handled by the New Jersey State Police,” the NFL said in a statement released to PFT. “Any videos related to an ongoing criminal investigation are held in the custody of the state police. As we said yesterday: We requested from law enforcement any and all information about the incident, including the video from inside the elevator. That video was not made available to us.”

While the fact that Rice was suspended only two games continues to be the best evidence that the NFL didn’t actually see the video, the latest statement from the league confirms that the persons with the job duties of gathering the information on behalf of the league failed.

Miserably.

Regardless of whether TMZ’s claim that the casino would have potentially jeopardized its broader business interests by gladly handing over evidence that could be used against a patron by his employer, the league’s statement implies that the request indeed wasn’t made. It also confirms that the league — and the Ravens — didn’t try to get the tape from Rice, whose lawyer had a copy of it as part of the criminal investigation.

As the 40-year-old saying goes, the coverup is worse than the crime.  While no coverup in this specific case would be worse than the underlying crime committed by Ray Rice, the league seems to be sliding into the same echo chamber that produced clumsy, awkward defenses of the initial Rice suspension. If/when the league wakes up this time around, the end result could be consequences far more tangible than a memo in which the Commissioner admits that the league got it wrong.

112 responses to “NFL says it requested Ray Rice video from law enforcement officials only

  1. Fire Harbaugh and Ozzy. That press conference was about as awkward and scripted as it gets including Harbaugh’s bewildered look when asked if the Ravens ever asked for the video.

    They probably figured since they rode it out with Ray Lewis that they could ride it out with Ray Rice.

  2. Yeah there is no other way to get information from new jersey casinos than through the state police. These places are of the utmost integrity people. New Jersey. Casino.

  3. Again, here’s the NFL and Goodell’s view on the handling of the Ray Rice incident, along with everything else they do- “We did what we did because you’re all going to watch the games and buy the merchandise anyway…we know it and you know it too. See you on Sunday, ‘we can’t hear you, there’s too much money in these hands.’”

  4. It makes you wonder how good any of their investigations are if they were unable to handle the Rice investigation. The existence of the elevator tape was known from the beginning.

  5. TMZ says that Becky told Jenny that NFL didnt request. But Goodell says they only requested from Law enforcement. But… But Suzie told TMZ that NFL didnt even Contact the Casino.

    Im already beyond past this story. The scumbag is out end of point. Just a shame that it took this video to prove what everyone already knew.

  6. Everyone is rightfully hammering the NFL and the Ravens for not getting this video, but shouldn’t all the reporters that are ridiculing the NFL also be embarrassed that the only reporters that got the tape was TMZ?

  7. “Regardless of whether TMZ’s claim that the casino would have potentially jeopardized its broader business interests by gladly handing over evidence that could be used against a patron by his employer…”

    Again, but TMZ got the video so somebody was wiling to jeopardize business interests. Exactly how much effort do you think the NFL would have had to exert to get it as well? I guess they just can’t compete with the juggernaut that is TMZ.

  8. Just like a Parent that doesn’t want to find out what their Kid’s up to, the NFL and Raven’s Ownership decided it would ‘bury it’s head in the sand’.

    Well, this is what happens when you do that, you get egg all over your face.

    What a pitifull excuse for a Professional Sports League.

  9. The Ravens appear to have a friend near the top of the Baltimore Police Department. Just a fan of the team or on the take?
    How did the investigating Police conclude that no action should be taken against Rice?
    Ozzie had somebody take care of it. If you ever saw the movie Michael Clayton – “fixers” connected with top legal firms are engaged to clean up the mess and cover things up for a very large fee. The plea from Janay to the Commish. Rice’s press conference, etc. Everything was stage managed to minimize the suspension and the Ravens paid top dollar and they almost got away with it.

  10. Goodell should hand in his resignation. “His” league did very little to investigate this and shouldn’t have needed this video to hand down a stiffer punishment.

  11. The “commissioner” needs to go, either by resigning or by firing, but he definitely needs to be made an example of, for the deaf ears the NFL and the Ravens, AND possibly law enforcement, that it’s time to take domestic violence seriously and that there is ZERO tolerance for it.

    But heads have to roll here, definitely.

  12. It is unimaginable that the NFL could not have obtained a copy of the video prior to determining punishment. As the Commish’s office is responsible for disciplinary action they failed to exhaust all means. As a former Army company and battalion commander who was responsible for the discipline of the unit, it’s only right to exhaust all means prior to administering discipline. The NFL for the most part has usurped the authority of team owners and management and, therefore, the process and this mess lies at the feet of the Commish!

  13. Why would they ask the casino for the video and set themselves up for a lawsuit? I agree they look like fools this entire process but the police are supposed to investigate crimes in this country not private “citizens”.

    The cops and the Ravens are taking less heat for this than the NFL. I actually think the NFL is afraid of the Ravens because of the Ray Lewis history.

  14. BS–stop helping the league build its narrative. Don’t you think seeing this video would have been central to this investigation??? Like, the most important evidence. And yet, somehow they never really looked for it. I personally would like to see the email chain where NFL security asked for the video, and local PD said no, or never answered–oh, wait, that was a phone call, so now its “he said, she said”. This is a joke, and slap in the face to the whole issue of domestic violence. This is exactly what Penn State did until trapped in a corner–I assume Goodell wants to bring that kind of shame to the NFL. He is not a man, but a coward of the worst kind.

  15. This isn’t a hard one. Revel Casino closed a little over a week ago. Whoever was working security made a copy, waited until Revel closed and sold the tape to TMZ to make a little cash until he finds another job.

  16. When Rice got the two game, there were rumblings, (and rumor/mills) that the video inside the elevator, unseen by the public, may have helped Rice only get two games when the “League” and it’s “Security” staff reviewed it. There was always inside the elevator video known, and as you said, the cover up is worse, or just as bad as the crime. (Not only 40 years old, but in the last year with the IRS, Justice Department, but that’s another story that no one seems to care as much about as this one)

  17. It was willful ignorance on the part of the NFL and the Ravens. They knew the tape was in the hands of Rice’s defense lawyer; they didn’t need to ask law enforcement for it.

    The NFL and the Ravens have their own investigators, compiled of former local and federal law enforcement. These people know the legal process.

    What’s the most shocking thing to me is how Rice wasn’t prosecuted for assault. The prosecutor had damning proof that he committed the crime. Rarely is there so much proof. Yet, Rice was given counseling. Amazing. Does New Jersey want men punching woman in face? An investigation needs to be conducted. Someone is to blame for this blatant failure of justice.

  18. While the fact that Rice was suspended only two games continues to be the best evidence that the NFL didn’t actually see the video, the latest statement from the league confirms that the persons with the job duties of gathering the information on behalf of the league failed.

    No way, that doesn’t mean anything. I honestly believe the NFL and the Ravens saw the video and thought it will never come to light. Maybe believe the public will throw it under the rug and forget about it; since Rice and his wife got “married” and are doing counseling. That seems to be everyone’s excuse who is defending him….

    Goodell goes today or this week.

  19. Yeah and I have a bridge to sell ya. They requested it, saw it, and screwed up. The fallout from this, I bet, is far from over (coughGoodellcough).

  20. All of yesterday’s actions against Rice were entirely appropriate. But the video didn’t show anything we didn’t already know happened, did it? I know there was a question as to whether the fiancee was aggressive but we all knew the man punched out a girl. I’m struggling to understand yesterday’s delayed reaction. That video looked exactly the way I imagined it would look a long time ago.

  21. Lazy investigation!

    If I were josh Gordon, I would sue nfl right now… It’s the best time and chance to get back…

  22. Everyone knows that casino’s have cameras everywhere and pointing in every direction. To not go to the is beyond negligence and should get Darth Goodell fired! He mishandled this whole situation from evidence gathering to the actual punishment.

  23. the NFL needs to explain how they came to the initial decision and what makes it different now. The crime committed is no different. We know Ray knocked her out, that is why he was suspended for 2 games. Does seeing the footage of what we know happened make it worse? Was the fact he knocked her out ok as long as it remained unseen? The NFL was wrong with the slap on the wrist in the first place and this video leaking was an opportunity to take a high ground. In the end Ray Rice is the same man he was when he was first punished.

  24. LOL at the NFL…Josh Gordon has one positive and one negative sample from the same pee stream (the positive being .00001 ng over the legal limit) and they work 7 months months to throw the book at him. Yet in the Ray Rice case the work several weeks to streamline a slap on the wrist…until the fall out yesterday.

  25. Full on CYA Mode. Even before the inside video, we ALL knew Rice punched her in the face, didn’t we?

    And if you think an investigation arm like the NFL has didn’t see that video, then you’re as stupid as they think you are.

  26. BUT the back office for the Dolphins was able to dig down into Bryants past all the way to the actions of his mother when he was a child…I’d assume some from some legal source…yet the league and all it’s power couldn’t get this tape?

    I do not believe the league whatsoever and feel like a terribly executed cover up has been exposed…so they’re trying to cover it up, again.

    Heads need to roll on this one and the top head is Goodell. On top of everything…he’s now gone outside of his rule he imposed last week and suspended him indefinitely. He’s making it up as he goes and it’s getting worse and worse….

  27. Give it a break already.

    Rice knocked out fiancee – did you really need to see it? What were u expecting.

    Justice served…. No the Criminal justice system…. Not media or NFL. NFL was a pr move.

    Move on ….

  28. I Don’t think there is anyone who believes the NFL didn’t see this tape. I think a ton of credible writers (Peter King/Adam Shefter…etc) also KNOW the NFL saw this. The Media will now put the emphasis on a bundled investigation instead of focusing on the flat out lie that is this evidence wasn’t provided. Does anyone believe TMZ can get this and the NFL could not??

  29. just remember people…. the Steeler’s were the only team to vote down the collective bargaining agreement and one of those reasons was that the Commissioner had sole power in being the judge and jury in these cases……….j/s

  30. My theory is that Goodell believed the story he was told from Rice and his fiance and didn’t feel as though it was necessary to actually see the video from inside the elevator since he got testimony from the victim and the perpetrator who seemed to both be fine with what happened. Now that the elevator evidence has come out, Goodell realizes that he was lied to by Rice and that the story he was told was a complete fabrication. That is why Rice has been suspended indefinitely rather than 6 games or a year based on the new policy. Rice has made Goodell look like a fool and it will be much harder for him to get reinstated.

  31. Roger Goodell is an embarrassment to the NFL. $40 million + a year and you put the “Shield” in jeopardy? Good thing he keeps the billionaires rolling in the dough. He should be terminated. His job, not him….probably.

  32. when this originally came out we were told they were drunk and that she may have been passed out. yes, the video at that point was still bad but there was some doubt as to whether he hit her inside the elevator or if she indeed passed out. of course the Ravens will support him if the old video was all they had. let the process play out. once they saw the new video they cut him immediately. Stop ragging on the Ravens, Rice lied to them too.

  33. From a legal standpoint the casino has no obligation to provide the NFL or the team with a copy of the video. So it makes sense that it was requested from law enforcement which has subpoena power and can obtain it, but is not obligated to give it to the league either. I would surmise that TMZ got it illegally by paying an insider.

  34. what is appalling in all this…is the Ratbirds PR dept having his fiancé out there with Rice and apologizing for “her role in the incident”…they even had that on the Ratbirds twitter feed until they deleted it yesterday….other than her face getting in the way of his fist…I don’t know what “role she played” in it

    contrary to what they say…you KNOW the Ravens and the NFL saw that video (even if they didn’t personally have a copy)…and after they saw that they were ok having Janay apologizing for her role? are you fricken kidding me? Ravens front office is not out of the woods on this one yet

  35. I realize its outside the scope of PFT. But I think the scarier issue is that law enforcement didn’t seem to have the tape, or they didn’t care enough after seeing it to give Rice anything tougher than pre-trial intervention. Consider it was the same DA/Judge combo that is trying to give a single mom jail time for a legally owned gun, one has to wonder.

  36. Hard to believe how much I used to respect Roger Goodell. There’s no getting around it, regardless of whether this was simply extreme incompetence on his part or an extreme lack of human decency, he needs to be fired. NOW.

  37. This is getting ridiculous. They didn’t need the latest video to know what happened. We watched him drag her out of the elevator in the first one. That should have been more than enough information for he NFL and the Ravens to make the right decision. The Ravens in particular should be ashamed for that shameful press conference they held.

  38. Just a thought, but shouldn’t the NFL, Ravens or Ray Rice sign an agreement giving 50-75% of his current and future earnings to his wife regardless of whether she is married to him or not? It would be a very expensive punch, and she wouldn’t be further hurt by his suspension, and it would be fun to watch his continued success knowing that his victim benefits.

  39. Does anybody have any information about whether the Atlantic County DA’s office is confirming that it refused to provide the video to the NFL and the Ravens?

    BTW, am I the only one who thinks it’s pathetic that the NFL and the Ravens would throw the Atlantic County DA’s office under the bus to cover up their own ineptitude?

  40. Now everybody knows what the Saints went thru. Goodell fabricated the Pseudo Bounty Scandal to fuel his hatred for the Saints. The investigation was a witch hunt at best. What goes around comes around. If the owners don’t get together and replace Goodell real quick there won’t be an NFL Shield to protect anymore. Geaux Saints!

  41. Got what he deserved, no denying. Amazing how impactful video and social media can be. In 2008, James Harrison was arrested for domestic assault of his girlfriend. DA dropped charges when Harrison enrolled in anger management classes. No punishment by Steelers or NFL. Then was celebrated as a SuperBowl hero less than one year later when his interception may have been the difference in the game. Where was the media and the outrage then? Will be curious to see how media and twitterverse deal with future cases that lack the visual.

  42. There’s already one perpetrator here, please stop trying to drum up another as a way to show outrage.

    The NFL did nothing wrong in going straight to the cops, who said no, then not going over or around the cops. That was the smart thing to do.

    There doesn’t need to be any kind of activism toward the NFL just because people feel they need to get their own handprints on this situation. You don’t need to perfom some action to prove you’re outraged. You don’t need to prove anything, and you shouldn’t be trying to drum upmore trouble simply because it feels good and gives a rush to attack a huge entity. That right there is the only actual purpose of trying to make the NFL some kind of fellow perpetrator. It’s fake.

    It’s never wise to mess with cops or courts. The NFL did the right thing by by accepting the answer. They did the right thing, they tried to get it. Sometimes when the answer is a no, and it’s from the cops and courts, yeah every single one of us would have let that part go then. Don’t lie to yourself.

  43. Any maybe TMZ would have offered them the video for let’s say a million $$. How much did TMZ pay for the video?

    I’m not sure why the NJSP didn’t offer them the video when they asked. And when did they ask for it?

    And enough with the “Punching his wife”. He hit her open handed, which is still a crime and completely wrong, but her head hit the hand bar in the elevator knocking her out.

  44. “He hit her open handed, which is still a crime and completely wrong, but her head hit the hand bar in the elevator knocking her out.”

    It was reasonably foreseeable that she would fall because of him striking her. And that in her fall, it was reasonably expected that she could hit her head on something. Therefore, yes, he did knock her out himself.

  45. Is anyone going to ask why she married him after all this? Women need to run away from these jerks, no matter how much money he makes. I’d be scared for life that it would happen again

  46. “Security for Atlantic City casinos is handled by the New Jersey State Police.” But the NFL surely employs or at least retired or active NJ State Police officers for their investigation into this incident and those people definitely would have had access to the video.

    This is really bad news for Goodell. I think he is on his way out unless he has a fall man or two to take the heat.

  47. So basically, the message here is that TMZ knows how to get video tape and the NFL doesn’t. IF we are going to believe the NFL’s story… which many of us don’t.

    Mark Cuban is looking smarter every day.

  48. From what I’ve read elsewhere, the reason the police department and district attorney’s office did not turn over a copy of the tape to the NFL was because it was primary evidence in an ongoing investigation. Makes logical sense from the police’s side, but the NFL could easily have turned to the casino if the league office really wanted to see the video.

  49. The cover-up is not worse than this crime. But that doesn’t absolve what feels like either an inept investigation or a decision not to investigate in the first place.

    Gotta wonder what the 32 Richest Men in Sports are saying about Goddell today. Roger should be thanking his lucky stars the league doesn’t have a Mark Cuban, since I bet if this happened in the NBA, Cuban would be speaking up.

  50. I will never be convinced Rodger did not see it! I am more than sure the nfl with all the power and money they have they got it. I bet they thought it would not be released.

    Time for you to go Rodger. The way you handled this is bad for the shield!

  51. NFL security is just a bunch of retired cops and agents who moonlight as fixers and Pinkertons for the commish’s office. NFL security knew what was on the tape and told Goodell, you don’t want to see it and helped him try to bury it. Probably would have worked except the hotel closed down and the surveillance guy lost his job and needed to cash in his chips.

  52. The NFL saw the video and that will all come to light in the days ahead. Fire Goodell now and get some of that 44 million back. Punchgate.
    Btw: The Pres. says she fell into his hand.

  53. The point here is that neither the NFL nor the Ravens WANTED to see the tape. The league’s CAREFULLY worded statement says it all. They asked law enforcement for it and never received it. Goodell, for all his faults, is no stupid man. He is a lawyer that knows who and what to ask and not to ask. He could have easily gone to the casino or Rice’s lawyer and gotten a copy of the tape, but he chose not to for whatever reason. The Ravens could have done the same. Each team has MANY, MANY highly trained investigators following the team (remember the pot smell throughout the hotel at the Super Bowl story?). It is their JOB to get this information and pass it on the their higher-ups. Goodell, or the Ravens could have easily said to Rice’s lawyer, “You don’t set one foot in the practice facility or on an NFL field until we see the tape.”

    The key words here are “plausible deniability.” Goodell, the league and anyone else who was involved needed an out when this all went bad.

    So we are left with 2 possibilities; Goodell is either a liar for saying he didn’t see the video or grossly incompetent because he couldn’t get it. Either way, he needs to go.

  54. It’s entirely possible that the league never requested the video from the casino. It would seem to be remarkably incompetent for them to do so, after the other video had been released. It’s also possible that the NFL didn’t request the video from the casino, because it had already gotten a copy from another source.

  55. This is impossible to believe.

    How can an organization the size of the NFL, with all the horsepower they possess in all things they do, not scour the earth for the real footage that shows the Tysonesque left cross to the jaw?

    If they truly could not get their hands on the inside-the-elevator-video, they should have reserved judgement on Rice until such time that they had access to the video and reviewed it.
    He should have been suspended indefinitely until they had access to ALL of the evidence. EFF the Union

    Who the f*&% is running this rodeo?

  56. Are you guys kidding? Owners won’t fire Roger, they will quietly give him more money for covering up the video as long as he could. That’s what is really going on here….Roger works for the owners. Don’t forget the real boss here.

  57. i worked in a.c. for 25 yrs.

    security is handled by each house’s security.

    surveillance is a separate department also handled by the house. nj division of gaming enforcement would have obtained the tape. also a.c. police and prosecutor would have had it.

    as has been said, the nfl (or one of its clubs) has retired nj state cops on its payroll. the philadelphia and new york clubs would by necessity have a relationship with both the police and casino security personnel (who are also retired cops by and large).. it is also certain that the league could have, with very little effort, gotten access to at least see it, if not obtain it.

    that they didn;’t is probably going to cost goodell his job. i hope so because the league will do better with a different approach. the “we are kings of the world” thing (until they cant find a video but a cable tv show can) isn’t becoming, rog.

  58. Law enforcement saw the video and also did nothing in a sense. We should expect more from law enforcement than from the NFL.

    Even if no one from the NFL saw the video, everyone knew one existed and if one exists then it’s only a matter of time before it becomes public. WTF did the NFL/Ravens think was going to happen? Their responses now are only reacting to the outrage once the video became public. Ray should have been suspended indefinitely from the beginning!

  59. Rodger is not going anywhere unless he starts loosing the owners money. Meaning visa or coors ect decide that advertising with the NFL is against their values. Otherwise this will blow over like any number of other mistakes these guys have made.

  60. The league was in a “no win” situation. They didn’t handle it well. But if they had obtained the tape in a manner that wasn’t by the book or if they strong armed Ray Rice, there would be people screaming about the Commissioner overreaching or abusing his power.

    It was handled poorly but to even suggest that the cover-up, which is too strong a claim, is worse than the crime is ridiculous. To suggest that then in the next statement that you are not is manipulative.

  61. Sounds like a piss-poor investigation by the local authorities.

    The NFL should now know better than to rely on the Barney Fife’s of the world.

    Sorry, Barney, I didn’t mean to defame you.

  62. geddy39 says:

    “The point here is that neither the NFL nor the Ravens WANTED to see the tape. The league’s CAREFULLY worded statement says it all. They asked law enforcement for it and never received it. Goodell, for all his faults, is no stupid man. He is a lawyer that knows who and what to ask and not to ask. He could have easily gone to the casino or Rice’s lawyer and gotten a copy of the tape, but he chose not to for whatever reason. The Ravens could have done the same. …. It is their JOB to get this information and pass it on the their higher-ups. Goodell, or the Ravens could have easily said to Rice’s lawyer, “You don’t set one foot in the practice facility or on an NFL field until we see the tape.”

    The key words here are “plausible deniability.” Goodell, the league and anyone else who was involved needed an out when this all went bad.

    So we are left with 2 possibilities; Goodell is either a liar for saying he [didn’t] see the video or grossly incompetent because he [couldn’t] get it. Either way, he needs to go.

    ————————————————————-

    I agree with most of what you said, except for the part of the Ravens needing to intercede for the league office. That’s entirely inaccurate. The league office had to take the lead here, as it always does when it comes to personal conduct policy issues. The Ravens had to defer to the league, which was why after the initial 2-game suspension was handed down, the Ravens took no additional action. It’s not their place, and any such additional action would violate the CBA.

    That’s not to say the Ravens are blameless. They mucked things up on their own plenty of times over the course of the last six months, but the real idiots in this case reside in the league office.

  63. Welcome to your own personal Bountygate, Roger. It’s time to see that accountability you talked so tough about – in action.

    Let the investigation BEGIN!

  64. wiley16350 says: Sep 9, 2014 8:16 AM

    My theory is that Goodell believed the story he was told from Rice and his fiance and didn’t feel as though it was necessary to actually see the video from inside the elevator since he got testimony from the victim and the perpetrator who seemed to both be fine with what happened. Now that the elevator evidence has come out, Goodell realizes that he was lied to by Rice and that the story he was told was a complete fabrication. That is why Rice has been suspended indefinitely rather than 6 games or a year based on the new policy. Rice has made Goodell look like a fool and it will be much harder for him to get reinstated.
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    That was my thought initially, but why wouldn’t Goodell come out and say this? From a PR standpoint, which version sounds better? I made the mistake of putting my trust in Ray Rice and he lied to me, or the AC DA’s office refused to provide me with a copy of the video so I had to make my decision based solely on written and oral statements?

  65. pathetic

    now the league.. Goodell.. is using the Kraft/Pats “we was duped” strategy to cover-up corruption and criminal activity

    NFL is most likely lying….. if not, they could have easily got the video and knew what it was…. I see no difference between having the video and trying to not see so they can claim plausible deniability

    the cover-up here is worse than the crim; Goodell needs to be fired (no resigning and getting paid) and the police need investigated for not prosecuting Rice

    this is bad… but, maybe we get rid of Goodell here… which is a good thing

  66. Domestic violence and the NFL are tied together. It’s well known that abuse goes up during football season. Ask someone who works with women who are abused, not the know it all goobers who post on here. This is the real issue. If you are just now realizing Goodell is a smarmy liar with zero backbone–youre a typical idiot who gets their info from sites like this and ESPN. The issue is women who are brutalized and abused. Not Ray, his wife, or that spineless overpaid liar. The NFL is worried about the NFL badge and this event’s affect on $$$. Nothing more.

  67. Dear NFL owners- I would pay $25 bucks on ppv, to watch Judge Judy grill Goodell, and get to the bottom of this within 20 mins…..

  68. Perhaps we should ask the NBA commissioner to decide this? Owner gets lifetime ban and millions of dollars in penalties and is forced to sell HIS property because of racist statements made to his girlfriend in private while a football player first gets a 2-game suspension plus loss of thousands of dollars followed by getting released then a indefinite suspension for knocking his girlfriend unconscious in a public elevator. Everything seems out of wack.

  69. Only thing more weasel-like than NFL management is the upper echelons of law enforcement in NJ, speaking as a resident of the State.

    Theres a turf cya fight right now, with the NJSP claiming its responsible for incidents on the casino floor, and its the local, AC police, responsible for covering elevator incidents, believe it or not.

    The AC prosecutor offered Rice the deal because that’s “standard for all first time offenders”.
    Which is not, as it turns out standard, on closer review. The prosecutor is also a Rutgers graduate.

  70. ohhh poor Roger. You touted around the league with your chest pumped out being judge and jury with regards to suspensions where there has been no consistency whatsoever.

    Those that believe the NFL had not seen this tape are as another poster noted “as dumb as they think you are”. This is a multi billion dollar league that is run by an attorney (yes Goodell is an attorney) with resources that make TMZ look like childsplay. They seen the tape. The Dog did not eat their homework!!!!!!

    Its funny watching this go down live yesterday. The Ravens cut him, then about 20 minutes later the NFL suspends him. Hmmmm.

    The man should not be judge and jury and now I bet he wishes he wasnt.

  71. NFL didn’t watch the video. There’s a few things investigators do for a cooperation’s, give them information they want, or need and keep them from the information that can hurt them. We all knew what happened without seeing the video. So did the NFL. They were probably given a frame by frame description of the video. So why watch it? You can now honestly say always say ” We didn’t watch the video”. Doesn’t mean then weren’t aware, it’s just slimy cooperation practices.

  72. That was my thought initially, but why wouldn’t Goodell come out and say this? From a PR standpoint, which version sounds better? I made the mistake of putting my trust in Ray Rice and he lied to me, or the AC DA’s office refused to provide me with a copy of the video so I had to make my decision based solely on written and oral statements?
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    The second one sounds better to the league because there is no admittance of fault. People have to use speculation and inference to put fault and blame on the league with that reasoning. With the first reason, Goodell is admitting a mistake and a weakness, people tend to resort to those when they have no other recourse. I just think it’s more logical that Goodell allowed himself to be swayed too much by the testimony of Ray and his wife than that Goodell wanted to try and cover this up. I just find no good reason for what the NFL would have gained by covering it all up. There have been many worse things done by NFL players and the NFL has completely survived them. Goodell has no reason to cover up for players and has never shown the desire to do so in the past, why would he start now?

  73. Plenty of blame to go around. What the heck was law enforcement thinking in letting this go? Goodell and Company just wanted a short suspension so the story would be gone quickly. A big chunk of the media equate are NFL shills so they weren’t going to ask any tough questions. It’d be a better place if some guys like Peter King got fired over this, as well.

  74. Ahh yes, am certain the mighty NFL employs a crafty lawyer who specializes in the “Ostrich Defense.”

    TMZ owner speculated worth $15 million. That’s a commercial break in the NFL. Peter King wrote in July the NFL and some of Raven’s management had viewed the second video. He is now backtracking all over himself. Bad mouthpiece…

    Now the NFL is blaming Ray Rice for lying to them–priceless, blame the guy the who punched his wife, everyone hates him anyway. “Spin It to Win It” is coming to a head, Roger, step down.

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