Did Ray Rice lie to Roger Goodell?

AP

When it comes to the NFL’s reaction to the Ray Rice video, the league has refrained from clearly and unequivocally saying that Rice lied about his actions inside the elevator.  But Commissioner Roger Goodell has strongly hinted that bad information came from Rice.

During his interview with Norah O’Donnell of CBS, Goodell said, “[W]hen we met with Ray Rice and his representatives, it was ambiguous about what actually happened.”

Said Goodell in a separate interview with Christine Brennan of USA Today, “What we saw was new evidence [Monday] that was not consistent with what was described when we met with Ray and his representatives.”

So why not simply say Rice lied?  If he did, the indefinite suspension could have been tied to the obstruction of an official NFL investigation.  Instead, the NFL has opted not to claim that Rice was suspended because he lied, creating the impression that Rice has been punished twice for the same conduct.

So what if Ray didn’t lie at all?  What if there were no ambiguity in what he told the NFL?

The ball is now in Rice’s court to respond to the subtle, vague suggestion that he sold to Goodell a set of facts that conflicted with the video that surfaced Monday.  While not compelled to say anything, Rice could complicate things even more for the league office if Rice says, “I told the NFL exactly what is on the video.”

A transcript or recording of the meeting could help resolve that question.  If a transcript or recording exists.  If it does, maybe we’ll have to wait for TMZ to buy it.

101 responses to “Did Ray Rice lie to Roger Goodell?

  1. No Rodger Goodell lied to everyone.

    If you honestly believe a billion dollar franchise of a multibillion dollar industry that had invested over 50 million dollars in one employee wouldn’t have found out all the facts (from a local police department and a casino security force comprised of moonlighting cops and minimum wage employees manning security cameras) before punishing him, and was just relying on “his side of the story” then I’ve got some nice ocean side property to sell you in North Dakota.

  2. The football following world will throw the largest collective party ever if this all results in the removal of Goodell as commish

  3. Regardless this is a mess that will be difficult for the NFL/Goodell to escape from

    Fan: Roger, I can’t believe you did this

    Goodell: I’m sorry baby…it won’t happen again

    Fan: that’s exactly what you said last time.

    Goodell: I know baby but I mean it this time..let me make it up to you

    Fan: There is nothing you can do…all you do is hurt me and lie

    Goodell: Baby … I’m gonna make this right…in fact I’ll make all the players wear pink in October.

    Fan: Oh Roger, I do love you but this better not happen again

    Goodell: I love you too baby…I’ll never hurt you again. Please don’t ever leave me

  4. Most companies wouldnt even fire Ray Rice over this issue. Mcdonalds doesnt fire employees for domestic violence arrests. Ray Rice is a turd, but if this tape was so easy to get. Why didn’t the paid reporters from ESPN, or PFT, or CBS or NBC etc. get it? How come, if it was so easy, it took TMZ 4 months to get it? Why didnt they “just ask” on the day they got the first tape? Ray Rice sucks. Goodell and the Ravens are suckers. Lets talk about some actual football.

  5. Rice and his lawyer had a copy of the video.

    It would be foolish to assume that the league office didn’t have a copy during the meetings. Or if Rice and his lawyer knew the league didn’t have a copy, it would be foolish to assume they would never get a copy.

    So it would be foolish to lie about it.

  6. This is exactly what the major story should be. Why did the NFL suspend Ray Rice twice for the same exact offense? If Goodell would have said “Ray lied to us and that’s why he is suspended indefinitely” then that’s acceptable. But to come on and say he is suspended for what’s on the video tape when that was what it was the whole time is absurd.

    If I were Ray’s attorney, I would fight this because it is clearly double jeopardy. also, it goes against the new rules, which make what Ray Rice did a maximum of 6 game suspension with no caveats of “working to get better” or any other extenuating circumstances except if it is a pregnant woman or if it is in front of children, which this was neither.

  7. If Ray Rice wants to play in the NFL ever again he may have to go along with what the Commish is putting out there, regardless of what the truth is.

  8. Roger Goodell needs to step down and Steve Busciotti needs to sell the team! Also, Harbaugh needs to resign for being such a passive aggressive pansy coach! The Ravens are headed toward an 8-8 season and Joe Flacco is regressing faster than Eli Manning! Write it down! This has completely deflated the team this year and the organization looks lost!

  9. “Ray Rice was not truthful with us about what happened. He claimed it was a quick right jab but in actuality it was a left hook.”

  10. Why would Ray Rice lie about anything at this point?

    He’s already banned from the NFL, CFL and from winning any Husband of the Year awards. Most believe he won’t ever play another down.

    I imagine he would tell the truth if asked if he told Goodell about everything on that video.

    Now if only someone from the media would ask him…

  11. Bob Loblaw, the new rules of a 6 game suspension for domestic violence is a minimum for the first offense, not a maximum. The rule states it can be increased depending on the severity of the issue.

  12. Ray Rice lying is irrelevant. Both videos clearly showed the outcome of his actions. The problem is that Godell expects us to believe the 1st video to be released is the “primary” video. It is in fact a secondary video, with the in-elevator video as the primary. This distinction is important because any reasonable human being watching the first to be released secondary video asks him/herself “where’s the video from the camera in the elevator?”

  13. When Goddell said on CBS News that “We did not know what led up to” Palmer being unconscious, does he mean the punch or what led to the punch? Because the police report states “specifically by striking her with his hand, rendering her unconscious.”

    Does he mean what led to Palmer getting punched because that shouldn’t matter.

  14. So Goodell had an ambiguous story from Rice/Palmer and still didn’t make a real effort to get the video?

    How the players association gave this guy the power to be judge, jury and executioner on anything like this is mind boggling. He is clearly incompetent and used horrible judgement from start to finish on this case.

  15. They either put the question directly to Rice & fiance or not – “did you hit her?”. Then he either answered truthfully or not. Simple as that.

    If they didn’t put the question to him, they did that on purpose and did not want to know the truth. If he was asked and answered anything other than “yes I did it”, he lied.

    Where is the confusion here?

  16. Despite the NFL’s vast financial resources and connections across the country, I still don’t believe Goodell and his staff saw the video prior to Monday morning for one very simple reason.

    If Goodell did see the video and lied about it to the public by placing blame on law enforcement officials, he has quickly opened the door for a defamation lawsuit from the Atlantic City Police Department and District Attorney’s office.

    How much worse would that look for the league office if they had to face a lawsuit they could well lose?

    Goodell almost certainly would have to step down if the Atlantic City police had evidence to suggest he did see the video months ago, and the NFL would have to settle the lawsuit out of court. The damage to the NFL’s brand would be immense.

  17. Goodell, the Ravens, Rice all lied and buried the evidence any way they could. Period.

    The mere fact that Goodell interviewed Rice’s wife in the same room with her abuser shows the whole investigation was flawed.

  18. touchdownroddywhite says: Sep 10, 2014 1:49 PM

    The football following world will throw the largest collective party ever if this all results in the removal of Goodell as commish.
    ======================================

    But the Q is, will they be throwing “rice” for such a festive occasion?

  19. I think Rice ought to sue the living bejabbers out of the NFL.

    With his value completely destroyed, if I was advising him, I’d get him and the wife, to spend the next 10 years of his life trying to get every last penny that was on his terminated contract, as well as damages from the NFL. The pr conscious NFL will have no stomach for something like that.

    That’s the position Goodell has potentially put the league in with his handling of this issue.

  20. What did they think happened? A person was knocked out. It wasn’t done with a kiss.

    Faced with the obvious and undeniable ugliness of the video, the NFL must act, again, or face increased scrutiny from the soccer moms and nerds they have attracted as fans.

  21. Rice says, “I told the NFL exactly what is on the video.”
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    True, for the clip we/they saw initially, but not for the whole incident which one see’s in the latest released video. Looks like 2 lies and 2 coverups to me.

  22. The Ravens have already admitted that Rice was 100% honest with them as to what happened in the elevator. Why would he lie to the NFL? Just another distraction from the NFL. I don’t care for Goodell but lets face it he is nothing more than a high paid puppet, a bobo. In my opinion a lot of the anger/disgust over this whole thing should be directed more to the owners than Goodell. Lets face it he doesn’t do much of importance without the blessing of the billionaires club.

  23. I wanted Goodell out before this Ray Rice AbuseGate even happened. Its no coincidence that Goodell get booed every year at the draft.

    #FireGoodell

  24. Let’s not forget, the ravens players have already come out and said that what rice told them and what’s on the tape are completely different. It’s pretty safe to say that rice had one story that he told his co-workers and Goodell, and that story was a complete fabrication.

  25. guitarkevin says:
    Sep 10, 2014 1:52 PM
    Ray Rice did admit to hitting his wife. The NFL botched this one.

    9 2
    Report comment. Not so fast Kevin as you one of many homers to defend a Rice saying you don’t believe it until you see the video….now you want to blame the NFL instead to the lying Ray Rice. I know lying to police and commissioners is acceptable to Raven fans…see Ray Lewis…but enough is enough. Worms don’t squirm as fast as Raven fans turn on the truth.

  26. Extract from Steve Bisciotti’s open letter….

    “The police had seen video from inside the elevator. The prosecutor and the judge, who had also seen such video, allowed Ray into the program that would eventually clear him of the assault charge.”

    The police, prosecutor and judge saw the video so what happened in the elevator will have been in their reports, which the NFL and the Ravens saw.

    So what would Ray Rice have to lie about?

  27. @ blacknorangestripes says:
    Sep 10, 2014 2:13 PM
    Let’s not forget, the ravens players have already come out and said that what rice told them and what’s on the tape are completely different. It’s pretty safe to say that rice had one story that he told his co-workers and Goodell, and that story was a complete fabrication.
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    Which Ravens players have come out and said that?

  28. Enough with the double jeopardy dudes. You watch too much Matlock. The NFL is not a criminal court of law. Every time you say “double jeopardy” you prove that you are either ignorant or you parrot previous phrases that you don’t understand.

  29. Its pretty obvious. Rice told HIS side of the story which was an embellishment not a complete lie. He said he was struck first and made it sound like a defensive hit. The video clearly showed he was not being physically threatened and the punch was excessive. Common sense.

  30. What’s to be ambiguous about? We already knew for a fact he knocked her out. Kind of hard to sugarcoat that. Also, The Ravens are already on record that what they were told by Rice matches what they saw in the video.

    Try again Roger. It’s great fun watching you squirm in desperation to keep your job.

  31. Absolutely he lied. Rice and his wife had already cooked up a story for the police that resulted in her getting arrested as well.

    The goal was to limit his exposure in the melee and hopefully keep the money flowing. So yeah, the lie just continued with ol’ Rog who, when Janey bawled like a baby that she was just as involved in the fight and to please go easy on her soon to be hubby so the checks don’t stop……please…..

  32. Admitting that you hit someone before a tape is produced doesn’t necessarily tell the whole story going back to February. Apparently one of the reasons many of his teammates were/are disappointed in him is that his story to them was that it was in self defense. Now that tape contradicts that and shows it to be false. Basically he lied to them.

    So he probably told Goodell the same thing. Why would he tell a different story back then when all we saw was her being dragged out of the elevator? Why would he have said self defense to his teammates and then what we’ve seen to Goodell?

    If he had told me self defense and then I saw that I’d be suspending him indefinitely also.

  33. After the Michael Vick case, how could you not suspect that the complete truth was not being told?

    Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice….

  34. If Goodell would have just suspended Rice for eight games right off the bat all of this would be in the rearview miror.

    In what world do you watch a video of a pro athlete drag a woman who has been beaten UNCONSCIOUS off of an elevator and hand down a two game suspension?

    Goodell should resign.

  35. imgaffs says:

    @ blacknorangestripes:

    Let’s not forget, the ravens players have already come out and said that what rice told them and what’s on the tape are completely different. It’s pretty safe to say that rice had one story that he told his co-workers and Goodell, and that story was a complete fabrication.
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    Which Ravens players have come out and said that?

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    No one has been formally named or identified, but there was an article on Yahoo Sports a couple days ago that said at least one Ravens player said the story Rice told him was quite different from what was on the video. Pretty sure it was one of the 3.592 Ray Rice-related articles posted on here in the last two days.

  36. As a football fan who HATES all things Roger Goodell, I’m praying that a third tape comes out today and a fourth tape comes out tomorrow and so on. I love seeing this weasel squirm.

  37. The answer is fairly simple. Don’t ask don’t tell.

    Rice’s handlers walked in with the facts laid out in the police report and a strong belief that the DA would not press charges and allow Rice to go to counseling. Janay bought in for love or money, probably some of both. The Ravens bought in for the love of money. Rog bought in because he thought the PR spin was handled. Rog said, ‘It’s cool I don’t want to see the tape.’

    All of the above parties thought the tape would remain sealed as part of criminal case, and they could walk away from it. BOOM someone should have paid someone more than TMZ did.

    The Emperor is buck naked and no one should pretend a CEO who functions at the whim of his 32 member board is an impartial judge of the conduct of said billion dollar industry’s employees.

  38. Now what have we all done to combat domestic violence besides getting a man fired? Obviously we see we can affect change.

  39. What if Ray Rice was diagnosed with PCS?

    Psychological conditions, which are present in about half of people with PCS, may include irritability, anxiety, depression, and a change in personality. Other emotional and behavioral symptoms include restlessness, aggression, and mood swings. Some common symptoms, such as apathy, insomnia, irritability, or lack of motivation, may result from other co-occurring conditions, such as depression.

    I believe that was tabled by Rice’s lawyer as the reason for the assault. Goodell panicked at the thought of a high profile lawsuit and was trying to prevent everyone from using the league as a scapegoat. Hence the two game slap on wrist.

    End Conspiracy

  40. I would love to see this be the end of Goodell. I really hate what he and the owners have turned this league into. Everyone who works for the NFL should be held accountable for protecting the shield. Right Goodell? You are no different.

  41. And now Congress is waggin’ it’s worthless finger at Roger wanting more “transparency” on who knew what when.

    Yup, Congress and transparency………two words that really don’t have anything to do with each other but yeah, I can see the collective NFL butt cheeks tightening with the guvmint eyeballin’ their mouthpiece and that tax exempt thing hangin’ in the breeze……

  42. Uncle Roger blinks a lot when he says they never saw the tape… Guilty. Double jeopardy doesn’t help you a lick when nobody will hire you… Uncle Roger and the Ravens swept it under the rug because the State of Maryland gave them the opportunity…

  43. One thing that is consistent: if you lie to Roger he will come down on you like an Old Testament fiery hand of God.

    I wasn’t for firing Goodell, I considered that part of the “feeding frenzy” on this topic. But now, I don’t know. Just get out, Roger, you got your money and it was bigtime money, but you’ve screwed up a lot of things and thoroughly pissed off the fans.

    This desperate BS of trying to make us believe that an NFL team would fly in Europe, all of us griping about the lateness of the draft this year then you saying it was “well-received” by the fans. Which fans? Not on this message board. Let someone else be the shill for the billionaires club of the NFL.

    Now THIS, the Ray Rice Situation. Just go.

  44. I think that since his fiancée was taking some responsibility that Rice made it seem more like a mutual altercation. The video was clear though.

    In any case, they should have suspended him indefinitely from day 1 as the video would obviously come out at some point and why decide beforehand.

  45. “Any videos related to an ongoing criminal investigation are held in the custody of the state police. As we said yesterday: We requested from law enforcement any and all information about the incident, including the video from inside the elevator. The video was not made available to us.”–Roger Goodell. So…the state police said “no” to the NFL, but somehow “yes” to TMZ? If TMZ bought the video as you all say–then they did so illegally. Where are the charges there? If the NFL had ammo, they would use it. Plus THEY (not the media as you are all screaming so loudly) THEY, the NFL are scapegoating rice to shift the narrative. Does he deserve more than 2 games, sure. He also deserves fair and due process, more counseling and someone other than a NFL paid employee to declare he truly understands what he did and someone to professionally assure they have done all they can to make sure he does not hit her again.

  46. In what world is a punishment handed out after asking the individual in question what happened? 9 out of 10 criminals will tell you they’re innocent. I would imagine that after 7 months Goodell could have gotten all the facts..

  47. Mike,

    BTW–Where was the outrage from society & the media on domestic violence before the NFL suspended Ray Rice for only two games? How many infractions of domestic violence did Brandon Marshall have that were ignored? The last time I checked Brandon is still playing & not only did he get a brand new contract extension (3yr/$30M) but he’s now one of the host this season to be on Inside the NFL. So where’s the outrage over his behavior? It’s okay b/c that happened a couple of years ago?

    You can blame the NFL & Goodell & the Ravens organization all you want but apparently everyone finally found religion over this event & all it took was a video from a hotel elevator. I think the sad part is that it took this long. So why is that? I will never even attempt to excuse what Ray Rice did to his then fiancee but I think it’s odd (& extremely pathetic) that only now has it produced a national fire storm.

  48. imgaffs says:
    Sep 10, 2014 2:14 PM
    Extract from Steve Bisciotti’s open letter….

    “The police had seen video from inside the elevator. The prosecutor and the judge, who had also seen such video, allowed Ray into the program that would eventually clear him of the assault charge.”

    The police, prosecutor and judge saw the video so what happened in the elevator will have been in their reports, which the NFL and the Ravens saw.

    So what would Ray Rice have to lie about?

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    The key point is they saw it and he was allowed into the program. That’s the info the NFL had to go on.

  49. Does it matter what rice told the league or not, the media got what they wanted. Rice is banned from the NFL and The CFL. What more do you guys want can we just watch some football and be happy about it.

  50. hakunamangata says:
    Sep 10, 2014 1:49 PM

    I’ve got some nice ocean side property to sell you in North Dakota.
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    How much ?????

  51. National Org of Women is demanding Goodell’s resignation over the Rice incident. First, NOW demands equality in pay (except for Pro womens tennis – they need only to play the best of 3 sets for equal pay with the men while the men must play the best of 5 sets) and treatment, but in this case, they demand greater preferential treatment.

    What would he outrage level be if Rice had punched and knocked out a drinking and gambling male buddy who says it was no big deal?

    Isn’t there some gross hypocrisy going on here? If so, why are we allowing it?

    I am all for giving women more protection, but the corruption of the application of equal treatment under federal law (adding unspecifed classes to the protection list by erroneous and unwarranted judicial activism) is a complete abberation and incorrect perversion of the original intent of the clause.

  52. The problem that the NFL have is that they are making the rules up as they go along.

    Last week, Roger Goodell said that first domestic violence offence was a 6 game suspension.

    So whats with the indefinite suspension?

  53. ghost26 says:

    BTW–Where was the outrage from society & the media on domestic violence before the NFL suspended Ray Rice for only two games? How many infractions of domestic violence did Brandon Marshall have that were ignored? The last time I checked Brandon is still playing & not only did he get a brand new contract extension (3yr/$30M) but he’s now one of the host this season to be on Inside the NFL. So where’s the outrage over his behavior? It’s okay b/c that happened a couple of years ago?

    You can blame the NFL & Goodell & the Ravens organization all you want but apparently everyone finally found religion over this event & all it took was a video from a hotel elevator. I think the sad part is that it took this long. So why is that? I will never even attempt to excuse what Ray Rice did to his then fiancee but I think it’s odd (& extremely pathetic) that only now has it produced a national fire storm.

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    I’ve been saying all this for weeks. That’s the big picture here. Two-thirds of all teams across the league have at least one player with domestic violence charges on his rap sheet, so if the league really wanted to take the subject seriously, there would be a lot of cleaning house on NFL rosters now.

    Sadly, it’s all because a video exists of Ray Rice punching his now-wife. Rice deserved every bit of punishment he’s gotten to date, but the cynic in me wonders if we’re having this conversation still if no video ever existed of the original incident.

  54. Eventually Rice is going to have his lawyer coming out backing him. Then the stuff will really hit the fan. The lawyer will release what was said to Goodell by Ray and Janay. Everyone will then see what Roger was told was that Rice punched his wife in the face, knocking her unconscious. That’s all that needs to be heard. Who cares if Janay went at him first. If Roger was told that piece, it should have been all he needed to hear. The truth will come out and then Roger will be forced to resign. That’s all there is to it. He got it wrong. The Ravens got it wrong. NJ prosecutor got it wrong. All involved should be fired. They didn’t want to know the truth which is why they didn’t push harder for the video. They just wanted this done and over with.

  55. Agree with southpaw2k & ghost26.

    If a video of Brandon Marshall showing him committing domestic violence 7 years ago surfaces, what do the NFL do? Ban him indefinitely? What do the Bears do?

    Same goes for Dez Bryant. He assaulted his momma. Should he retrospectively be suspended?

  56. Let’s see if I have this straight…

    Roger is investigating.

    What he does know is Rice is dragging an unconscious fiance from the elevator, and then shows no concern to the point of nudging her with his boot.

    What he doesn’t know is what happened in the elevator.

    Rice is “ambiguous” as to what happened.

    Roger decides “2 games is the right punishment”.

    Goodbye Goodell.

  57. whatnojets says: Sep 10, 2014 2:58 PM

    hakunamangata says:
    Sep 10, 2014 1:49 PM

    I’ve got some nice ocean side property to sell you in North Dakota.
    —————————————————–

    How much ?????

    I’d have to assume it would be discounted.

    It’s a long walk to the beach.

  58. I find it fascinating to read all of the posters who are ABSOLUTELY SURE Goodell is lying and saw the video.

    I personally have no idea whether he is or isn’t…..but so many of you are so sure he is.

    Why would he do that? Why would he lie about it now? Wouldn’t it make it much worse if he was caught in a lie about seeing it or not…..I just don’t see that happening.

    We are talking about TMZ folks….they are in the business of obtaining this type of information and they pay for it. Probably came from a casino employee or from someone with the security company. Doesn’t surprise me that they were the first ones to get it at all.

  59. I’ve been saying all this for weeks. That’s the big picture here. Two-thirds of all teams across the league have at least one player with domestic violence charges on his rap sheet, so if the league really wanted to take the subject seriously, there would be a lot of cleaning house on NFL rosters now.

    Sadly, it’s all because a video exists of Ray Rice punching his now-wife. Rice deserved every bit of punishment he’s gotten to date, but the cynic in me wonders if we’re having this conversation still if no video ever existed of the original incident.

    What you have been saying for weeks is show me the video and you have you want to say every other team has similar abusers but no video. So what you are really saying is it’s ok as long as there is no video…pathetic. Why are there so many dumb guys that root for the Ravens….? Must be the soft shell crabs…?

  60. It was just a punch… he didn’t write on the wall with her blood… there is no reason Goodell has any reason to lose his job, nor does he have to defend his actions. He doesn’t work for u troll, get over yourselves.

  61. Ray Rice was an asset, equal to a valuable commodity, to the Baltimore Ravens before he assaulted his then fiance. Ray Rice was also an asset/commodity to the NFL. Once the tape of the assault was widely viewed Ray Rice became a liability to those entities. I believe this whole ordeal is what is known as a no win. Had the Baltimore Ravens and the NFL moved swiftly and harshly, they may have been able to avoid the “black eye’s” they are wearing now, but they still lose an asset/commodity, Ray Rice’s reputation is what it is either way and I can’t find anything about this or about how it’s been handled that doesn’t make me want to flush it all away. Fare the well.

  62. Let’s not all lose sight of two facts: Ray Rice punched his then fiancee so hard it knocked her out, and he lied about it to the League, the team, and his teammates.

    Typical of raven fans to STILL defend this whole mess, and actually try to deflect it on to other teams because they dislike the scrutiny.

  63. Who are the idiots that think Goody saw the video a while ago? and is only now doing something. Gee don’t you think the original owner of the video could confirm that and make you out to be a liar.
    I’m sure Goody did you see it like everyone else and said ‘Oh crap now I have to take action. Rice lied like hell to me about what happened and I have to can him for a while’.

  64. Bar is set high in this country on battering women now. As with Rice any man should be banned from his employment and receive justifiably, no mercy no second chance and no job. Since Congress is in this now it should be a national law forbidding those who make the mistake of battering their girl friend, wife, child or dog to lose their job and flip burgers. Seems NJ is reinvestigating this Rice event and if he goes to jail for a first time offense then all men in similar circumstances should face jail to. All the self-righteous morons are missing the point, you are willing TMZ ,a gossip organization as scummy as tabloids, reporters, and fans to destroy a man who made a mistake, first time I believe, destroy his wife and child to make a buck over sensationalized images of a very bad drunken action, blaming the wife for standing by him. The real issue I bet lots of you scum bags have hit your wife, child or dog out of anger and the real issue it’s an epidemic issue in this country. Tens of thousands of men brutalize women, children and dogs daily and they get away with it. That’s the crime here, multiple occasions doing a heinous act. With Rice losing his LIVELY HOOD ALL MEN ACCUSED OF WIFE, GIRLFRIEND, CHILD AND DOG ABUSE NEEDS TO LOSE THIER JOB AND NEVER ALLOWED BACK INTO THIER CHOSEN PROFESSION AGAIN. THE BAR IS SET HIGH NOW.

  65. thraiderskin says:
    Sep 10, 2014 3:37 PM
    It was just a punch… he didn’t write on the wall with her blood… there is no reason Goodell has any reason to lose his job, nor does he have to defend his actions. He doesn’t work for u troll, get over yourselves.

    0 2
    Report comment. If the punch was on your sister or mother would it be just a punch….think again . Pathetic animal.

  66. thraiderskin says:
    Sep 10, 2014 3:37 PM
    It was just a punch… he didn’t write on the wall with her blood… there is no reason Goodell has any reason to lose his job, nor does he have to defend his actions. He doesn’t work for u troll, get over yourselves.

    Just when you think all the lost tribes have been found someone posts something so meaningful like the above……got brains?

  67. lenbias34pt says:
    Sep 10, 2014 1:47 PM

    Interesting idea, but how believable is Ray Rice at this point?
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    The question should be “How believable is Goodell and the NFL at this point” !!

  68. Someone commented that other employers do not fire employees for domestic violence issues. That depends on the situation. If the domestiic violence issue is impacting on the job or if the job is seen by the public as in the case of the NFL then the person can be fired.Also, sports figures are public figures that children look up to as role models and they need to be held to higher standards than the average McD employee.

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