Goodell meets with former players to discuss conduct policy

AP

As Commissioner Roger Goodell embarks on an overhaul of the personal-conduct policy, he has done something that some players would say he hasn’t done enough — he has asked former players for input.

According to Mark Maske of the Washington Post, Goodell met with 11 former NFL players to discuss changes to the NFL’s current approach of off-field player misconduct.

Attending the session at 345 Park Avenue were Mike Singletary, Willie McGinest, Roman Oben, Eddie Mason, Matt Birk, Patrick Kerney, Robert Porcher, Charles Way, Scott Turner, Tony Paige, and Marty Lyons.

A 12th former player, Troy Vincent, attended the 3.5-hour meeting in his capacity as the executive V.P. of football operations.

Goodell plans to seek input from other experts and the NFL Players Association, with the goal of unveiling a new conduct policy before the Super Bowl.  The biggest question continues to be Goodell’s role in the enforcement of the new policy.

Currently, Goodell makes the initial decision regarding discipline, and he has the right to handle the appeal of the outcome.  At a minimum, look for him to surrender the initial decision to an expert in disciplinary matters.  Ultimately, Goodell will have a hard time yielding final say regarding any punishment that comes from presiding over the appeal process.

50 responses to “Goodell meets with former players to discuss conduct policy

  1. My sources tell me he’s actually talking to OJ, Rae Carruth, Daryl Henley and Lawrence Taylor. Dexter Manley couldn’t understand the email invite.

  2. Ultimately, Goodell will have a hard time yielding final say regarding any punishment that comes from presiding over the appeal process.
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    And if he doesn’t, nothing will change. His ‘friends,’ in ownership will continue to get as many competitive advantages as he can sneak under the radar. It’s what the Goodell Reputation Repair Goons either don’t understand or don’t want the rest of us talking about, a commissioner who’s got half a foot over the outright fixing games line.

  3. He should not make the initial decision and he should not handle the appeal. He has ZERO credibility. He should only oversee the creation of the policy and enforce whatever decisions are made.

  4. Not an easy job being Commish in these times. That being said, he has made a pretty bad mess of things since he’s been in charge. Hopefully something good comes from this and then he can move on to more important issues, like fixing the ridiculous roughing the passer and illegal contact penalties that arbitrarily decide games.

  5. The other 3 sports leagues have had “disciplinarian” executives/VPs for years – it’s time the NFL follow suit and leave the commissioner as the arbiter on appeal.

    Interesting that Charles Way was included as a”former player”, when he’d spent the last 14 years as the Giants’ director of player development and this year moved to a similar role at the league level. That’s certainly a different level of insight than just a “former player” would have.

  6. Goodell: I’ve called you in for this meeting to discuss how I can go about keeping my job. You see, I want to be a billionaire one day and this situation has severely threatened that possibility.

    I call on you, as former players, to help me achieve my goal.

  7. Didn’t Mike Singletary pull down his pants and wipe his backside in the locker room at halftime of a game he was coaching for the 49ers?

  8. They have zero credibility anymore. And that’s putting it lightly. It’s amazing how truly out-of-touch they are.

  9. How is round tabling with retired players going to help? They are still members of the fraternity and will justify almost everything the players do. What decent people want is for the NFL to take domestic violence seriously and fairly. Big names will not longer get Big breaks. That means an independent council, security team and jury has to be formed.

    One last thing…the reason why many people are looking for the truth about the Rice issue is that they do not trust the Commissioner and the owners. There is solid evidence they have been intentionally looking the other way at domestic abuse and a secret deal was made regarding Rice and a cover up was implemented.

    So people who take DA very seriously want certain people to pay for those 2 things and they want different people to implement the new improved policy. We don’t trust the old regime.

  10. The morality of anonymous people on the internet. I base my life values off of you guys.

    geesh. Lets just play football.

  11. Tradition dictates that we now use the phrase “embattled” before all mentions of the embattled Goodell’s name.

  12. I’d like to see a 3 stage approach to personal conduct policy enforcement.

    1. Investigation team (one member league appointed, one NFLPA appointed) to investigate and discover evidence.

    2. Penalization team, six members (3 league, 3 NFLA) to access and impose penalties. The league and the NFLPA can have legal representation if they so choose to argue the validity/worthiness of the results of the investigation.

    3. Appeals group (6 and 6, plus commissioner as tiebreaker vote) to handle any appeal that may come.

    Right now Goodell is trying to be the definitive authority. He needs to step away from it, and only get involved in extreme cases.

  13. Death by a thousand cuts is the way the NFL is going. Them and every other PC ruled fascist society or organization.

  14. De Smith?

    What about him? He REPRESENTS the current NFL players and fights the NFL on things like the drug and conduct policies.

    Goodell = the enforcer but is the “responsible” person when players screw up

    De Smith = the protector of players from punishment levied by Goodell. I’m 100% sure that Smith invoked some legal injunction from allowing the NFL to see that elevator tape.

  15. Robert Porcher pled no contest to assault and battery against his ex-wife. Is he participating to lend his expertise in domestic violence, or what?

  16. Deed association.

    Goodell gives Rice a 2-game suspension and gets destroyed by the media.

    Steve Bischotti owns the team that hired Rice, and the media demand that he sell the team even though HE committed no crime whatsoever.

    Obama destroys the United States and is PRAISED/lauded by the media.

    So you ppl are saying that if a union worker commits a crime, and cannot be fired, it’s ok b/c the CEO of the company that he works for should be canned for whatever crime was committed right?

    Do you ppl really think that SOMEONE ELSE is responsible for your actions?

  17. No Cred Red continues to make NFL news–boring, boring, boring. Attention to ALL MEDIA. Goodell will never man up, take responsibility, or tell the straight faced truth. No would believe him now if he did. We dont give a flap about Goodell and never did, maybe he will cross some other line and lose his job, THAT would be news. In the meantime, please stop boring us with his lies and cowardice. We don’t care, really. Really. We don’t

  18. He wanted to be judge, jury and executioner and now he can only point the finger at himself when it blows up in his face….

  19. dryzzt23 says: Sep 23, 2014 6:53 PM

    Deed association.

    Goodell gives Rice a 2-game suspension and gets destroyed by the media.

    Steve Bischotti owns the team that hired Rice, and the media demand that he sell the team even though HE committed no crime whatsoever.

    Obama destroys the United States and is PRAISED/lauded by the media.

    So you ppl are saying that if a union worker commits a crime, and cannot be fired, it’s ok b/c the CEO of the company that he works for should be canned for whatever crime was committed right?

    Do you ppl really think that SOMEONE ELSE is responsible for your actions?
    _________________________________

    Nope…WE don’t…but you on the other hand? That tin foil hat’s getting awfully ragged.

  20. Like the above comment states ” fans care about the games and news surrounding the games”, not this king er commissioner.

  21. What is so sad in all of this is Goodell and the owners setup a system that allows them to lie and to cover up their lies.

    That is hard to swallow.

    I watch the NFL because of the players and coaches. I respect the players and the coaches.

    I used to respect the owners, but no longer. If they back Goodell then they are dishonest too.

  22. I for one believe that Roger Goodell is nothing more than a front for the NFL’s most influential owners hand picked to protect THEIR interests.

    Having said that how can any NFL owner justify keeping him as commissioner? The league has buckled to the public pressure on numerous decisions over the past 3 weeks so why not get rid of Roger when everyone is screaming for his head on a platter? Firing Roger Goodell would garner so much public support from NFL fans and the media that the positive attention would almost erase the past 3 weeks of bad press.

    My opinion is they can’t fire him because of what he knows. But he will step down eventually once things quiet down, a 7 figure seperation package is worked out between the two parties, and Roger signs a non disclosure agreement. Roger will go quietly probably to do some pointless out of sight job within the league.

  23. Goodell is a corporate guy with a corporate perspective. That’s great for marketing the league and working out broadcast contracts and advertising partnerships. But as someone with no football background, he should never be deciding how the game is played, when and why players are fined for on-field infractions, or anything to do with officiating. Those decisions should be made by football experts. And personal conduct suspensions should be decided by a committee that includes player reps. The NFL is in this position because the owners handed free rein to Goodell. That was a mistake which must be corrected.

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