Chargers may fight over L.A. market

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Well, that escalated quickly.

At a time when the NFL hopes to downplay the notion that one or two teams soon will be moving to Los Angeles, the Chargers are prepared to take steps to protect the market that’s not far up the road from San Diego.

As explained by Daniel Kaplan of SportsBusiness Journal, the Chargers could actively oppose a relocation to L.A.

“Over the last 20 years, there hasn’t been a team in the L.A. market,” said owner Dean Spanos, pictured with his son, Chargers executive V.P. of football operations John Spanos.  “We have reached out into that market and 25 to 30 percent of our business comes from the L.A. [and] Orange County areas.  Putting a team in there right now, or two teams, would have a huge impact on our business going forward.  So we are trying to protect our business in San Diego. . . .  It would really be harmful to us.”

Spanos explained that he has shared his concerns with others in the league.

“I have talked to owners about it, they understand.  I know the Commissioner does,” Spanos said.  “[I]f you put another team in there to help that team and you hurt another team, what does that do?  Right.  If you put two teams in there, what will that do?”

As Kaplan suggests, Spanos may simply be trying to let the Rams and Raiders know that the process will be far more complex that loading up the moving fans and driving to Los Angeles.  Also, Spanos could be hoping to get a larger piece of any relocation fee that will be paid by a team that sees its value increase dramatically via a move to L.A.

Then again, Spanos could be making it known that, if anyone is going to move to Los Angeles, it’s going to be the Chargers.  If 25-to-30 percent of their business already comes from L.A. and Orange County, the Chargers perhaps become the most obvious choice to make the move.

In that respect, the overriding goal could be to position the Chargers for relocation at a far lower fee than the Raiders or Rams would have to pay, if one of those two teams join the Chargers.

86 responses to “Chargers may fight over L.A. market

  1. those 25-30 percenters are transplants living in LA that want to see their favorite team play AGAINST the Chargers as good tickets are always available

  2. So the Chargers were in San Diego when the Rams and Raiders were in LA/Orange County but now it would cause them a problem?

    What am I missing and why does anyone take anything said by the NFL or one of its billionaire owners, regarding L.A., seriously?

  3. “those 25-30 percenters are transplants living in LA that want to see their favorite team play AGAINST the Chargers as good tickets are always available”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Wow, that was so insightful and I am sure that you are a business genius and have run the numbers yourself…..Troll

  4. They should fight. Having a team in LA only hurts San Diego’s buisness. Whoever moves to LA will have to deal with an established and successful franchise to the south. While hte NFL is bigger and more profitable than ever, California does not 4 teams. They really don’t need 3 to honest.

    If LA was such a gold mine of NFL opportunity, why have none of the teams who ever existed or almost existed (looking at you LA Bulldogs) stuck around?

    The only idea worse than LA is London and its a REALLY close second.

  5. “As Kaplan suggests, Spanos may simply be trying to let the Rams and Raiders know that the process will be far more complex that loading up the moving fans and driving to Los Angeles.”

    May want to read your work before you post it.

  6. 30 percent of the Chargers fan base probably is equal to 1000 fans if that. I don’t get of the Raiders moved to L.a with the Chargers how the Raiders would move to the nfc. The fan base in la is mostly Raiders. Look at the practice they held with the Cowboys in Oxnard. Magic Johnson would have a say in what ever team moves there. And he already knows the Raider brand is strong there.

  7. There are over 22 million people in So-Cal. Maybe it says something about Spanos as a businessman if he can’t sustain a business with that kind of population. How did they survive during the 34 years when the Rams were in L.A.?

  8. “…loading up the moving fans…”

    Couldn’t have said it better myself. L.A. is full of bandwagon.

  9. Because L.A. Isn’t big enough for 2 teams. Right, New York?

    The L.A. Chargers of San Diego. I’m not buying it. L.A. deserves their own team. Period.

  10. If you have a good product, you don’t have to worry about another team. So what you’re really saying is…

  11. If you stand at the top of the bleachers in the Raiders stadium and look west across the bay on a clear day you can see candlestick park where the Niners played forever…10-15 miles apart? I doubt 150 miles between LA and San Diego is going to be an issue??????????

  12. Cities that have lost teams in the past that currently have NFL teams:

    Cleveland Bulldogs, Rams, Browns
    Boston Redskins
    Chicago Cardinals
    Dallas Texans
    Oakland Raiders
    Baltimore Colts
    St Louis Cardinals
    Houston Oilers

    The fact that the Rams and Raiders left shouldn’t be used against LA. Period.

  13. The Spanos whine … too cheap to build a decent stadium in downtown SD, they also want to deny LA getting back a team(s) of their own … Phuleeeeeeeeeeeez !!!

  14. since when is 125 miles is “just up the road?”

    Maybe they could be like the 49ers. They could move to LA and still call themselves the San Diego Chargers.

  15. So basically, if anyone is getting a new stadium in southern California, its going to be the chargers and I’d would assume league executives would much rather spend a billion dollars on a stadium in LA rather than San Diego. I really don’t like it having grown up in san diego but you can’t blame them from an economic perspective. I’m sure it’d be much easier to sell those expensive press boxes in LA. I partially blame the Padres for making it difficult to build a stadium in SD, they took our tax money and gave the city a triple A team that has only had one good season since they moved to Petco. I’m just concerned how the chargers leaving would affect the local economy. We get so much tourism from the football games, everyone and their mother wants to fly in to watch their team play against the chargers

  16. San Diego is a great city that deserves NFL football. But with a new stadium in LA on the horizon it is like being in Buffalo when you could be in New York City. Spanos has to get something out of this deal. He will see his revenues decline significantly the moment a team takes up residence in LA.

  17. What a troll. Spanos sounds like Peter Angelos in baseball 10 years ago.

    What have the Chargers ever done to acquire rights to the entire LA market?

  18. Actually the Dallas Texans were not from Dallas but from Hershey Pa and Akron Ohio???? Neither of these towns now nor will they ever again have an NFL team…. just setting the record straight….

  19. who floats all of this crap out. LA hasn’t had a team in a decade now they are getting 2. Give me a break, This like asking a girl out to the dance and telling her that she better go because you have another girl you want to ask. then what happens you go to the dance by yourself. LA don’t deserve a team and when they get one in 2017 they will lose it just like the lost all the other teams they had.

  20. Of course they’ll “fight.” Their business is flagging as it is. San Diego doesn’t care about the Chargers. They don’t have an enthusiastic fan base compared to others. They are like the older, more established version of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

    And if you think I’m just trolling, ask yourself how San Diego fans compare in terms of passion and loyalty to the following franchises (no particular order):

    Packers
    Eagles
    Steelers
    Patriots
    Browns
    Bills
    Redskins
    Raiders

    Answer? Not even close. They don’t even hold a candle to the Bengals in terms of brand loyalty and passionate fans.

  21. The dean spanos had 20 years to move the chargers to L.A and didn’t do it, now that the raiders and rams are potentially relocating here he’s screaming foul. No mr spanos you had you’re chance and now it’s time step aside. Besides spanos would lose more money here because everyone knows that L.A is a raiders strong hold and if the did move were ever they play there would be 65,000 raider fans and 5,000 charger fans, so do yourself a favor spanos stay in san diego.

  22. Just move a team to LA and give San Diego a new stadium. After the Rams or Raiders move to LA and continue to stink, the front running fans in LA will stop supporting them immediately. Just give San Diego a new stadium already, we deserve it.

  23. Haha SD …. Come on the Rams and raiders are natural teams there.

    As for the LA losing teams…. I don’t think that should matter until a city has lost its second chance. The fact cleveland has a team is amazing. That city has proven time and time again they won’t do what’s needed to keep a team.

    As for those who will cash modell. He asked the city of Cleveland numerous times for a new stadium or upgrades to compete. The politicians said no. As did the fans. he did the only thing left.

    Cleveland and Cincy were both possible Baltimore teams and Cincy built a stadium and cleveland said no.

    Then after they left they decided to build one lol. Which is classic cleveland. React after the fact.

  24. Very smart from a business standpoint, however…Mr. Spanos needs to realize the football gods frown upon this sort of thing….they are still punishing the Redskins for Jack Kent Cooke trying to keep a team out of Baltimore because of “market rights”

  25. Raiders or Rams should sell the team to someone like the Manchester City owners that will build a stadium and pay for it themselves. NFL owners are the greediest people on earth and liberal land California can’t afford nothing.

  26. I don’t think anyone understands what Chargers are trying to say and the media is just trying to create a storm.

    Essentially what Spanos means is having another team so close would make them lose business (fans). He’s NOT saying they would rather move there instead of letting another team go to LA. Never once did he imply or give the impression that they are considering LA.

  27. Most Raider fans in SoCal are gangbangers and wannabes, neither of which can afford NFL prices.

  28. LA had their chance with two crazy owners who tried to fleece the city and their taxpayers. When the public said we won’t give charity to multi millionaires, they left for greenback pastures.
    Both teams suck right now too.
    It’s not like they left LA because the fans didn’t come, they left because we wouldn’t be pushed around by a warm up suit wearing psycho and a murderess.
    You all better hope you have mentally stable owners or your town may be the next bargaining chip for the NFL.

  29. garrygates says:
    Oct 10, 2014 1:42 PM
    LA doesn’t deserve a football team. Oklahoma City, San Antonio, Portland, Las Vegas… all better options.

    —————————————————————-

    You can’t have a team in Las Vegas. Your entire team would be permanently in jail.

  30. almost as stupid as Jerry Jones saying San Antonio is cowboy Country……

    (only difference is it’s ok, nobody wants to go there Jerry, you can have it)

  31. The teams who have never won a Super Bowl include: Buffalo Jacksonville Houston Tennessee Cleveland Cincinnati San Diego Minnesota Detroit Carolina Atlanta Philadelphia. Should all of these teams “shut up” because they haven’t won one?

    There are Super Bowl winners have been in the league almost 40 years before they won their first, but somehow the Chargers should shut up because they haven’t won their first? What kind of thinking is that?

    To put it another way, since the start of the Super Bowl, NFL teams have played between 23,000 and 25,000 games, yet out of all those only 47 have been Super Bowl games. Not only the best teams have the opportunity to play in them, sometimes teams just get lucky. Championships or not, the Chargers have just as much right to speak about this as anybody else.

  32. raiders own LA….any team will draw if they play the raiders there but only for that game.

  33. charger fans will get beatdown in LA….i can see them running away from raider fans already…

  34. The teams who have never won a Super Bowl include: Buffalo Jacksonville Houston Tennessee Cleveland Cincinnati San Diego Minnesota Detroit Carolina Atlanta Philadelphia. Should all of these teams “shut up” because they haven’t won one?

    There are Super Bowl winners have been in the league almost 40 years before they won their first, but somehow the Chargers should shut up because they haven’t won their first? What kind of thinking is that?

    To put it another way, since the start of the Super Bowl, NFL teams have played between 23,000 and 25,000 games, yet out of all those only 47 have been Super Bowl games. Not only the best teams have the opportunity to play in them, sometimes teams just get lucky. Championships or not, the Chargers have just as much right to speak about this as anybody else.
    —————————————-
    Please speak all you like. No one is stopping you.

    … It takes more than talk to be a champion though.

  35. Please speak all you like. No one is stopping you.

    … It takes more than talk to be a champion though.

    ———————-

    Considering none of us on this board have played in the NFL, let alone won anything, it takes way more than being a fan of a winning team to be a champion.

  36. Oh please Spanos…the only guarantee sell outs of any Bolts game is the Raiders Chargers tussels in SD year in year out BECAUSE of Southwest Raider fans from L.A., Oakland, Arizona, Vegas etc etc…

  37. I dont know why SD is complaining so much. It only takes 24 votes to ratify the move. Their one vote isnt going to count for squat, especially if the move were financially viable to all the other owners. The bottom line is the dollars with the billionaire club. They could care less about Spanos being butthurt.

  38. Eli? Don’t make me laugh. Here’s a fun fact: Eli did not sign with the Chargers because his daddy told him not to. What team wants a player that can’t stand on his own two feet?

  39. A delusional raider fan? Say it isn’t so!

    Raider fans haven’t taken over Qualcomm Stadium in years, since the raiders became the Charger’s whooping post a decade ago. Not that punching old ladies and stabbing people isn’t something to be proud of, though.

    And I think another poster already nailed it. Those fans coming down from LA are coming to see the Charger’s opponents, not the Chargers.

  40. Archie telling Eli not to sign instead of Eli making that decision on his own does not help your argument. That just goes to show that SD has been an abysmal franchise for that much longer. lol

  41. Wow, Eli vs the ever-growing group of players that answered, “Raiders.”

    The question asked of 100 NFL players? “The only way I’d play for {insert team name here}, is if they doubled my salary.

  42. The Chargers should just move to the city that wants them the most. We can do a national poll and see what city actually cares enough to invite them.
    Go ahead, America. Let your voices be heard.
    Hello, America?? Are you there?
    Anyone?
    Seriously is there ANYONE out there that wants this team?
    Is this on?

  43. We’re talking about the number one selection and number two selections in the 2004 draft. In 2003 the Chargers went 4-12 so yes they sucked, but the NEW YORK GIANTS ALSO WENT 4-12 WHICH MEANS THE ALSO SUCKED. got it? ok.

    Coughlin is just a better coach than Shot and Turner–it has nothing to do with Eli. In fact, no matter what numbers you use, Rivers is better, he can do more with less.

  44. LOL, yeah one team is 4-1, made the playoffs last year and is poised for another run. The other is 0-4, and is coming off 11 straight seasons without a winning record, and is currently working on their 12th.

    Which one seems abysmal?

    Tarps don’t lie.

  45. FYI the Chargers are 0-1 in their lone Super Bowl appearance. The Giants and Raiders have won multiple times, but regardless, Eli Manning still sucks and the Raiders haven’t had a winning season going on 12 years. 12 years!! Do you get how pathetic that is?

    Eli Manning? He has NEVER won against the Chargers.

  46. Does it really matter where the Chargers are? They are and always will be completely irrelevant. They could be the Mars Chargers and they would still suck..

  47. They are going to pay their lawyers a lot of money for nothing. They should have moved when they had the chance. The Chargers could have easily built a stadium in Orange County and call themselves the L.A. Chargers. The Angels went back to their old name because of marketing.

    The only teams that have a chance are the 1. Rams and 2. Raiders. and neither will have a stadium built for them.

  48. Easy fix. Move both the jags and Raiders. Either Raiders go back to LA an stay in the AfC west or move then to San Antonio and put the. In them in the AFC south while Jags move to LA. Whatever the case move both of these sorry teams to LA and San Antonio

  49. Get over it GagaBolts. LA aint your turf and you have ZERO legal grounds to block another team from locating there. Tell me Spanos, does the GagaBolts own all of the SoCal market? Yeah, good luck with that.

  50. Why not build the stadium in Anaheim and rename them the California Raiders Chargers Rams etc?

  51. Build a beautiful stadium in the foothills of Yosemite, just outside of Fresno and a 4.5 drive from both LA/SF, sell a portion of the team to the fans, call them the California Raiders, and see something amazing happen: everyone winning.

    Let the Chargers play in LA where they will finally slide down the drain they’ve been circling under the dead-eyed gaze of the Spanos regime.

  52. Spanos is such a loser. He cannot build a strong following by himself in the San Diego area (have you ever seen the 49ers or Raiders play there? Far outnumber Chargers fans) and so he’d rather squat on the L.A market than let anyone build something there.

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