Seahawks expected to get a conditional pick from Jets

AP

Neither the Jets nor the Seahawks have officially announced that Percy Harvin is being shipped from Seattle to New York, but when the trade is finalized, the Seahawks are expected to receive a mid-round draft pick as compensation.

The trade will be for a conditional pick that is currently slated to be in the fourth round, but could rise as high as the second round, based on certain incentives. At this point it’s not clear exactly what those incentives are, but they’re presumably tied to Harvin’s playing time, his stats, or whether he’s still on the Jets at the time of next year’s draft.

That compensation shows just how far Harvin’s stock has fallen. The Seahawks gave up a first-round pick, a third-round and a seventh-round pick to acquire Harvin a year and a half ago, and now they’re maybe getting a third-round pick to trade him away. They’ve essentially thrown away a first-round pick and a seventh-round pick to rent Harvin during a period when he was mostly injured and unable to play.

The Seahawks ended up getting a whole lot less from Harvin than they thought they’d get. Now we’ll see if Harvin can maximize his talent with the Jets.

UPDATE: It turns out the pick isn’t as good a deal as it initially looked for the Seahawks: It’s actually a conditional sixth-round pick that could go as high as a fourth-round pick.

98 responses to “Seahawks expected to get a conditional pick from Jets

  1. I have a lot of respect for Seattle for moving on from mistakes.

    Flynn – Harvin – Doesn’t matter what was paid.

    All GM’s should take note.

    P.S. I’m a Saints fan not a Seahawks fan.

  2. When Percy arrives in the loving arms of the NY press, expect the resulting reaction to heat the entire region for the winter.

  3. They paid peanuts for the guy. The 3 picks only added up to the number of points they’d need to jump from 25 to 18 in the first round of a weak draft. Harvin us better than anybody they could have drafted around 25 anyway, and they got a Super Bowl out of it with Harvin playing a huge role. Bargin for the Seahawks.

    Feel free to name me all the players better than Harvin they could have gotten for those picks.

  4. It didn’t make sense when the Vikings traded him because having Harvin and Peterson on the same team was incredible, and now it doesn’t make sense because Seattle has a great team and quarterback.

    The only reason I can make sense of it is that Harvin got into confrontations with the coaching staff or fellow players. His reaction after Wilson’s interception last week was kind of telling.

  5. I KNEW this was gonna hit soon! Apparently he punched Golden Tate last year before the Super Bowl and nearly did the same to Russell Wilson this year when he tried to approach him about his attitude. The truth is starting to trickle out…

  6. Wow. How bad did they want to move on from this guy? Can you imagine how poisonous he must have been in that locker room?

  7. Since all you Shehawks fans have only been fans for 10 months let me educate you.

    You lost Golden Tate and multiple draft picks for a guy who gave you less then 10 games and had minimal impact.

    Who’s your number one? Baldwin, Kearse?

    HAHAHAHHAHA

    Iron Sharpens Iron

  8. They also lost the guy that let other WR’s get open as well. Not to mention now DC’s can put another guy in the box to be in better position against Lynch.

    They also lost a great returner.

    Oh and it’s still funny to see some people and writers downplay his numbers… he still was the Seahawks leading receiver.

  9. Not a bad deal for jets and Idzik was sitting on a ton of dough. Low risk move even at 1-6. At worst they lose a 4.

  10. GM who gave up a 1st, 4th, 7th rounders and $12M in cash = genius!

    GM who gave up a conditional mid-rounder and no guaranteed cash = idiot!

  11. Tough business decision? This is surely a future cap space issue and knowing that he likely was going to be a cap space casualty next year due to Wilson, et.al. contract extensions……..they made this move.

    I for one, can’t accept the timing of this move and wonder what the Hawks expect to do with the WR core in the coming weeks?

    I expect that Lynch will be relied upon as well as the Defense. Can they repeat without Harvin? Sure. Will they? Only time will tell, but the odds have to be getting smaller. If nothing else, the opponents now don’t have as much to game plan for………

    Still standing by the front office, but wish more information was forthcoming to help understand what the thinking was on this…..

    Go Hawks!

  12. Oh and it’s still funny to see some people and writers downplay his numbers… he still was the Seahawks leading receiver.
    __________________________________

    Baldwin is the Seahawks leading receiver.

  13. If seatle was going to let him go so easily I wonder why NY is taking a chance on this head case.

  14. Those who make investment decisions know when to cut a bad investment and move on. The ones who get burned the most hang on to those bad investments. Hawks didn’t take long to make their decision. Kudos.

  15. Seasterick fans constantly demonstrate their lack of football knowledge with every post here. We gave up 3 high draft picks, could not resign our own free agents, wasted a ton of next years cap space, traded one of our best offensive players for a fourth round pick, but but but were a better team because of it.

  16. Leave it to the hawks to make the most out of a bad situation. Best run organization in football.
    The hawks are able to trade away headaches, even if they are superstars, because we draft very well and have excellent depth. Other teams wish they were so fortunate.

    Other teams fans envy our teams players. Other teams players envy our teams fans.
    #12thmanisheretostay #dynastybeforeyoureyes #kissthering

  17. Feel free to name me all the players better than Harvin they could have gotten for those picks.
    ——————–

    Ill name ONE, a Mr. Cordarelle Patterson.

    Same thing, only cheaper, younger, higher upside, not CRAZY, tougher, and you would have had him for 4 years(5th with option) to develop him.

    -Vikings fan. LOL how does that feel being laughed at by a VIKINGS fan?? Ouch.

  18. If seatle was going to let him go so easily I wonder why NY is taking a chance on this head case.

    ———————————————

    Because they learned a lot from Santonio Holmes.

  19. OC wasn’t kidding about needing to find ways to get the ball to Marshawn Lynch more!

    That’s certainly a creative one.

  20. The 3rd rounder directly helped Minnesota land Cordarrelle Patterson. Who I’d easily consider a better player and citizen than Harvin. The 1st round pick was Xavier Rhodes. So it wasn’t exactly “peanuts”

  21. Paid Harvin just short of $20 Million dollars to perform 6 regular season games and a game and a half in the playoffs. 1 touchdown in the SB and 1 touchdown in a Game 2 loss earlier this year.

    That’s a payment of almost $10 million a touchdown…Wow, nice work if you can get it!

  22. Harvin is a selfish football player, that’s why a guy that talented gets dealt twice so recently. More interested in touches than wins.

    He’s going to find himself out of the league soon enough if he doesn’t change his ways.

  23. “-Vikings fan. LOL how does that feel being laughed at by a VIKINGS fan?? Ouch.”

    Vikings fan, how does it feel to be laughed at by the rest of the league?

    When will your team be relevant again?

  24. I ALWAYS admire people who say “well hell. I was wrong. Let’s do this instead.”

    In politics they call it flip-flopping. But if you don’t change your mind when you’re wrong, you’re a moron. And THAT is why our politicians are morons.

  25. Once they pay Russ Wilson, the Seahawks will be headed down the same road the Steelers have been on since paying Roethlisberger.

  26. To be clear, Seattle didn’t get the payoff from the Harvin deal they had hoped for. All of you spouting the numbers both production wise and salary wise are absolutely right, although it would be nice to hear from intelligent football fans instead of juvenile idiots, but YOU’RE RIGHT!
    Now with that said, I applaud the team for being decisive in unloading him and I do think the team is better off because the ball will be spread around more and hopefully we can get back to being a run first team. Plus, I’ve been looking forward to seeing what Richardson will bring to the offense. We may or may not make it back to the Super Bowl, but I’m still proud to be a 12 and I still say, “In Pete and John we trust”!!!

  27. Someone summed it up best. The loss of golden Tate is bigger than all of this.na physical, chippy receiver who lead the team in receptions and now no one is filling his void, not even harvin. Tate seems to be doing just fine in Detroit. Looking back at it, giving him up for nothing seems to be the worst move. Forget the trade with the Vikings and such.

  28. Seems like Seattle fans are making excuses trying to justify some bad moves. Moves that could cost hawks repeat chances. Tate was pretty good.

  29. What a “whiff” by Carroll and Schneider…they don’t look all that smart now losing all those draft picks, paying Harvin big money and now getting (1) second round pick at best?

  30. The worst part for Seattle is that they have a pretty big cap hit for this in 2015, will limit their flexibility considering the guys they still have to re-sign.

  31. Weird how Vikings fans show up… After Thursday night at gob I was sure they had all moved on to hockey or ice fishing.

  32. These deals just don’t happen overnight. Idzik and his Seattle counterpart probably had this done weeks ago. The timing makes sense , jets are awful and Seattle just lost at home to an inferior opponent or so they thought.

  33. How will Seattle be any worse with out him? No more stupid trick plays to Harvin that go nowhere. Back to Lynch running over people again. I know, I know I’m a stupid Seahawks fan but it worked out OK last year and Harvin didn’t do crap. I have all the respect in the world for a team that will get rid of a good player if he is a bad teammate. I am a little concerned about the receiver position now but Harvin wasn’t used that way anyways.

  34. Harvin played a huge role in getting them a Superbowl? That’s the only game he played in aside from a handful of snaps in what 1 or 2 games? BTW you still woulda won it without him so I dunno how he had such a huge role.

  35. Somewhat surprising but maybe this prevents Wilson and Bevell from assuming Harvin is going to gain 40 yards every touch of the ball and get back to proper offensive play calling.

    Harvin could’ve been Superbowl MVP in a winning Superbowl game … what price do you put on that? Viking fans and many other would love to be able to pay whatever price to get the guy that steps up when it really matters in the biggest game of the franchise. Vikings Gans know all about counting on vets to get them anywhere.

    Rice, Harvin, TJack, all have rings and Vikings fan have/had John Karlsson and fond memories of an aging QB airmiles in to get them to a playoff win.

  36. A lot of people are bashing Harvin as if he didn’t show up when it counted the most…….the SB. Granted the Seahawks would’ve still won by double-digits. The guy never cried to the media or asked for more money when in Seattle. That’s my 2 cents from an Eagles fan POV.

  37. All the Seahawks haters are acting like Seattle is Jacksonville. The Harvin trade was a bad trade but they won a Super Bowl. If my teams general manager makes a bad move but they win the championship then all is forgiven.

  38. Seattle is very lucky if the ceiling on the conditional pick is a 4th rd pick and I will be very surprised if they get anything better. Harvin thought the Twin City press was hard on him and it caused him to pout and fake injuries………just wait until Percy meets the NY press, LOL

  39. Tate is gone because he slept with the wife of a soon to be divorced QB. He was NEVER coming back. The Hawks were fleeced on the Harvin trade PERIOD. If our nearly worst in the league 28th ranked QB doesn’t get his head screwed on right he should also be shipped out.

  40. “Seasterick fans constantly demonstrate their lack of football knowledge with every post here. We gave up 3 high draft picks, could not resign our own free agents, wasted a ton of next years cap space, traded one of our best offensive players for a fourth round pick, but but but were a better team because of it.”

    So knowing that Percy was a cancer then what *should* the Hawks have done Mr Football Knowledge? Waited? Try to make it work anyway?

    Yep Percy was a mistake. We’re moving on. We’re definitely not a better team for it right now, but we will be.

  41. Something I have not seen mentioned, is that Pete’s son Nate Carroll is an assistant wide receivers coach for the Hawks. I’m sure Nate has a direct pulse of the chemistry and Harvin from being in that coaching position, which in turn helped Pete get a true and honest evaluation of Harvin, and whether Harvin was going to work or not for the Hawks.

  42. Most teams would allow their franchise to be held captive by the big contract and the unwillingness to admit they made a mistake. Not the Seahawks. Kudos to them. No one is bigger than the team.

  43. The Seahawks at least got a 3rd rounder out of the deal, whereas the hapless and tasteless Vikings got a glorified special teamer in return.

    Patterson can’t run a route to save his mothers life.

  44. At least Seattle had the guts to cut ties and admit its mistake early. Too many teams hold on to high profile picks/signings way too long.

    PS: I’m a Saints fan, too.

  45. So according to all of the analysts gee-no should now be a top 10 qb right? I mean he played 6 bad games and they blamed his lack of weapons, he has a decent game against the pats and now he is the franchise again, so with harvin, decker, Johnson, ivory, amaro and kerley there should not be any excuses……but there will be I’m sure.

  46. Ill name ONE, a Mr. Cordarelle Patterson.

    Same thing, only cheaper, younger, higher upside, not CRAZY, tougher, and you would have had him for 4 years(5th with option) to develop him.

    -Vikings fan. LOL how does that feel being laughed at by a VIKINGS fan?? Ouch.
    —————————————————-
    Feels fine. Thanks to Percy, we got a Lombardi and you guys are still a last place team with an empty trophy case.

    As to Patterson, don’t make me laugh. He still can’t run routes worth a crap and doesn’t have 1/10th Harvin’s explosiveness. Seahawks gave up almost nothing in terms of draft picks, got a Super Bowl out of it and then cashed in for 2nd round pick. We won.

  47. tokyofilthblaster says: Oct 17, 2014 9:23 PM

    The Seahawks at least got a 3rd rounder out of the deal, whereas the hapless and tasteless Vikings got a glorified special teamer in return.

    Patterson can’t run a route to save his mothers life.

    Hey watch how you talk about the Chickenhawks next WR. Let me see 2 first rounders and a second should do it.

  48. “The Seahawks at least got a 3rd rounder out of the deal, whereas the hapless and tasteless Vikings got a glorified special teamer in return.”

    The Vikings did not get Patterson out of the Harvin deal. They got Xavier Rhodes.

    XAVIER RHODES!!!!!!!!!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  49. thenewguy12 says:
    The worst part for Seattle is that they have a pretty big cap hit for this in 2015, will limit their flexibility considering the guys they still have to re-sign.
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    Um, wrong. They have $7 million in cap space still this year and now have $42 million next year. They can easily resign Wilson and anybody else they want to keep and still have enough left to sign Ndomakong Suh. Harvin’s “big” contract isn’t big at all.

  50. hawk12thman says: Oct 17, 2014 8:12 PM

    Tough business decision? This is surely a future cap space issue and knowing that he likely was going to be a cap space casualty next year due to Wilson, et.al. contract extensions……..they made this move.

    I for one, can’t accept the timing of this move and wonder what the Hawks expect to do with the WR core in the coming weeks?

    I expect that Lynch will be relied upon as well as the Defense. Can they repeat without Harvin? Sure. Will they? Only time will tell, but the odds have to be getting smaller. If nothing else, the opponents now don’t have as much to game plan for………

    Still standing by the front office, but wish more information was forthcoming to help understand what the thinking was on this…..

    Go Hawks!

    You Chickenhawk fans are more delusional than Packer fans.

  51. I didn’t think anyone could be a bad enough actor that the Seahawks would not consider him a member of the family.

  52. Ouch. That one hurts.

    As a Viking fan, I can honestly say that I hope this humbles Percy and that he lights it up in New York. There is no doubt that this guy could be absolutely dominating if he wanted to be.

    By the way, to all those pointing out the extremely recent success of the ‘hawks and ripping the Vikings, the Vikings all-time winning percentage is 54.3%, the Seahawks is 49.3%.

  53. As a Hawks fan I’m disappointed, I’m disappointed we gave up so many assets to get him. I didn’t really like the trade to begin with but I accepted it, what I’m more disappointed in though is that this guy still had attitude problems after being moved to another team. A superbowl winning team nonetheless, we sure could use Tate right about now. Not only was he a good teammate, good receiver, he was a great blocker too. I just hope Paul Richardson is able to have an impact.

  54. I don’t know what’ worse…..this trade by the Jets from a ship that is clearly sinking or an “eeebohlah” czar……..both are equally and stupid.

  55. It makes perfect sense, because the Seahawks just won a super bowl while Harvin mostly sat on the injury list. Cut your losses, and his salary and move on.

  56. There hasn’t been an ego deflating trade like this since the Vikes sent Moss to the Raiders for Napolean Harris. Harvin is at this moment desperately looking for some weed to smoke. It’s gotta hurt. But at the same time, he brought it on himself.

  57. This 49er fan thought it was strange they traded for him in the first place. Their GM has been money on the draft picks. If they can keep drafting like they have been, this is the right move. Free up cap space and get more picks. It is a good long term move.

    Now whether it was a good move this season remains to be seen. I guess they will find out what they have in their rookies. They must look pretty decent in practice in order to feel comfortable pulling the trigger.

  58. In reality if they didn’t trade him they would have gotten nothing by season’s end. But the season isn’t even half over, they could have waited.

  59. To me Harvin is kind of like Eric Metcalf + some extra baggage. Smallish guy, dynamic returner, and a decent runner/receiver. This means he’ll have some games with crazy total yards, but there are often better options with other guys at WR/RB.

    Problem is the baggage and price tag.

  60. Hawks fan here. Not sure if this is the right move or not. Definitely didn’t expect it. The truth is they paid a lot of money for a receiver that didn’t contribute nearly as much as we had hoped over this last year or so. If I knew all of the answers I would be paid a lot more then what I’m being paid now. Just gotta trust that Pete and John, being the people inside the locker room, (unlike anyone on this thread), know what they are doing. We made it all the way last year, that’s more then 31 other teams were able to do, and they did it without Harvin. Repeats are damn near impossible nowadays and if we are gonna do it it would happen with or without Harvin, cause no team goes all the way on the back of a single wide receiver. Period.

  61. What a steal by the Jets. Seriously.

    Is Harvin the perfect NFL player? No. But given his playmaking ability, is he worth a 2nd through a 4th? Many times over.

    Jets got a great player. Seahawks took it in the shorts.

  62. The Seahawks at least got a 3rd rounder out of the deal, whereas the hapless and tasteless Vikings got a glorified special teamer in return.

    Patterson can’t run a route to save his mothers life.

    Ah, TSB, always showing his lack of knowledge.

    The Vikings used the 2013 1st round pick in the Harvin trade on Xavier Rhodes, not Patterson.

    They packaged the 2014 3rd pick from the Harvin trade to New England to nab Patterson in the 1st round in 2013.

    I know you don’t let facts get in the way of your posts as you’ve shown thinking a 1st, 3rd, and 7th is somehow better then a conditional 2nd-4th.

    Packer math.

  63. Harvin had 3 td’s vs the Redskins a couple weeks ago (all called back on penalties). Seems weird to let him go for almost nothing in return.

  64. I feel bad for Percy.

    He’s not the reason for the team’s relative underachievement and he’s just given up on that quickly and told to go all the way across the country???

    That defense helped the team win the Super Bowl tremendously, but his end around reverse got them in FG range and his kickoff return TD helped them lead 29-0 with less than 2 quarters remaining in the game.

    They couldn’t have done it without him either because placing leads difficult create stresses on the opponents. Huge leads causes those in deficits to overexert. If not, why are comebacks so improbable?

  65. let this be a biblical lesson to all you kids out there… In the afterlife If you misbehaved you go to hell… In Football if you misbehave… you go to the JETS!

  66. At this point it’s not clear exactly what those incentives are, but they’re presumably tied to Harvin’s playing time, his stats, or whether he’s still on the Jets at the time of next year’s draft.
    ——+—
    Nope!
    The ONLY condition is that the jests win another game this season.

  67. Maybe now Richardson will see the field. Put up good numbers with a horrible QB in college and, while not as fast as Harvin, has top end speed.

    Not sure Bevell ever really had a clue how to use Harvin. Jet sweep right, jet sweep left, bubble screen right, bubble screen left and 5 yard crossing routes. Excepct for the TD pass that was called back against Redskins, he was rarely used to stretch the field. Think this is addition through subtraction.

    FO made a terrible mistake trading for him, recognized the error and got what they could for him. At least they get credit for cutting their losses early.

  68. Has to be stuff not yet being reported on. Harvin hasn’t been lining up as a deep threat WR the last few games anyway. It’s been sweeps and lining up as a half back or screen pass since after the Packers game.

    You can tell that the Seattle offense has been trying to conform to Harvin instead of the other way around. Hopefully now the offense can start to click.

    Baldwin, Kearse, Lockette and TE Wilson is still a great recieving core.

  69. For the Seahawk fans who can’t fathom this trade in regards to the presumed lack of talent left on the receiver depth chart, you forget the principles that this team was founded on. Next man up.
    Despite winning a super bowl with Percy Harvin, they got there without him. Albeit, they probably regret letting Golden Tate go, they probably believe in the speed of Paul Richardson and the knack for getting open by Kevin Norwood (now that he’s healthy). They put guys in position to be successful.
    The price paid for Harvin in terms of draft picks is negligible. What would any team give up for a super bowl? Harvin may not have been the primary reason, but he sure as hell helped to ensure a super bowl victory.
    There are a myriad of factors that could have contributed to his departure but nothing has been confirmed and is otherwise pure speculation. So all this is pointless until we hear from Seahawks management.

  70. Vikings fan here…….

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

    We got a first, third, and seventh for a team cancer. Seachickens got burned.

    Punching teammates, throwing dumbbells at coaches, faking migraines, hating on the media, injuries, etc…….

    Harvin is his own worst enemy. I have a feeling he will enjoy playing with Geno as much as he liked playing with Ponder.

    Percival is making Spielman look like a genius.

  71. The Vikings third round pick they received from the Seachickens was for this years (2014) draft. It was traded back to the Seachickens so the Vikings could move back into the first round and draft Teddy Bridgewater.

    The results of the Harvin trade to Seattle are yet to be revealed. It is totally possible that the Vikings got a franchise QB out of the deal.

    Seachickens = Burned!
    Spielman = Genius!

  72. Something is wrong with this offense.
    They were already throwing on 3rd down
    to Brian Walters, now they’ve got no deep threat whatsoever!

  73. Vikes fans will crow about the picks they got, (which have netted them fewer wins so far than before the trade) until Week 14, when Harvin beats them in a Jets uniform.

  74. Harvin wanted to be traded to the Steelers but we did not want him because he does not live up to the Steeler standard. We do not want any receivers who can catch or know where the end zone is.

    #playerscoach
    #7ringsisapipedream

  75. Harvin was worth ever pick and every penny for the Seahawks for 1 simple reason; he helped get them their first ring. No one can ever take that away from the team or their fans. And this is coming Niner fan! Just thank Percy for the ring and move on!

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