Jacksonville officials not worried about London trips becoming permanent

AP

Bad football and easy jokes about tarps have made it easy to surmise that Jacksonville’s annual trips to London might be setting the stage for a permanent move.

But city officials are convinced it’s actually helping secure the Jaguars’ future.

According to Gene Frenette of the Florida Times-Union, local leaders are taking the long view of the team’s annual field trip across the Atlantic, assured that owner Shad Khan doesn’t have carpetbagger motives.

Shad has demonstrated very clearly that he has an interest in this community succeeding, as well as the Jaguars,” said Jerry Mallot, executive vice-president of the Chamber of Commerce. “He’s a global businessman. He doesn’t think of one city as a playing field. He sees the world as a playing field. It’s very natural for him.

“When things were a little weak [financially] on the homefront, Shad was able to make it better for his investment to play a game in London while he builds the team. I think people have come to understand and trust what Shad is doing. He’s trying to help Jacksonville grow along with the team.”

Khan has also sunk $20 million of his own money into improving EverBank Field, but the London games still help the bottom line. The ticket revenues they bring in from Wembley are double a normal Jaguars home game, and now represent 15 percent of the team’s local revenue.
That has helped stabilize things a bit, or at least keep them out of the Los Angeles rumor mill, which centers on the Raiders, Chargers and Rams now.
“Some people view London as a threat to the Jaguars,” Jaguars president Mark Lamping said. “I view it the exact opposite. London is going to be one of the things that protects Jacksonville as an NFL market. It stabilizes a franchise that was unstable a few years ago.”
Lamping added that “nobody talks about blackouts or relocation anymore,” when discussing the team.
“London is worth two home games for us,” said Lamping. “This year, we’re generating as much revenue with nine games [at EverBank] as we did with 10 games two years ago. Plus, we’re adding the benefits of London on top of that.”
Of course, Jaguars fans residing in Jacksonville probably shouldn’t rest completely easily until someone ends up in London that’s not their team.

29 responses to “Jacksonville officials not worried about London trips becoming permanent

  1. Executive Vice President of the chamber of commerce.. With an annual salary of 17,000 dollars whicy he supplements with a real job…

  2. Khan really seems like the type of owner who actually does care about the city in which his team plays. I was really disappointed when he tried to buy the Rams, and was shut out by Kroenke. I think fans in Jacksonville got a great owner, but time will tell.

  3. Khan was able to secure territorial marketing rights in the United Kingdom. That exclusive control over the marketing rights in the country was a brilliant move. It has helped increase the team’s “local” revenue.

    The team has stated multiple times how this helps their future in Jacksonville. But people just choose to ignore that.

  4. The Jags aren’t going anywhere. It’s only people outside of Jacksonville who are continually clueless about this franchise. The interesting thing is that while the team is currently really bad, the support for this team is very high. I am a 10 year season ticket holder living in Savannah, Ga, driving 1 hour and a half one way to every home game. We may not be in the top 10 in attendance, but we are doing better than a lot of other teams, some of which are playoff teams(ie-Cincinnatti, San Diego).

  5. So just so I understand this, the jags badly want to play a game in london every year because they can make twice as much playing there as they can at home? So wouldn’t the next logical step be to play all their home games there and make vastly more money? This spin that the london games helps keep the jags in jacksonville just sounds like a hot load of BS.

  6. Jax to London makes for an easy joke. But I’m sure there are legit die hard Jax fans out there and it would break their hearts to see the team move.

    I wouldn’t want that, especially since they seem to be building something nice.

    -Cincy Fan

  7. I love how pundits always ignore all the ways a team in London full time makes absolutely no sense.

    Who is going to pick up the tab for the extra travel cost?

    Are they going to get a salary cap exemption to offset the higher income taxes so they can pay equivalent market value for players?

    Are people in London going to go to 8 games a year to the same team if the team isn’t winning? This is probably the biggest assumption. That games will always sell out. Lots of soccer teams don’t sell out every game right now.

    Are you really going to expect a team to fly 10000 miles round trip to san diego?

    It’s the same with LA. 2 teams left LA already. The raiders chose Oakland over LA. I know the media is pretty gay for LA but seriously. An NFL team cannot succeed there or it already would have. Hell they don’t even have a stadium.

  8. “Of course, Jaguars fans residing in Jacksonville probably shouldn’t rest completely easily until someone ends up in London that’s not their teams”

    A team isn’t gonna move to London (logistical reasons, currency differences amongst other issues) so why should I be worried?

  9. Cutting back a few home games each year makes a lot of sense when they weren’t selling out. It’s supply and demand, less supply in Jacksonville is a good thing until they are a winning franchise. Now if they don’t turn this around with these top 5 picks they’re always getting Jacksonville may ask them to leave.

  10. For almost as long as the team has been in Jacksonville, the fans have had to endure listening to talk of LA….Nearly 20 years later, there is still no team there..Even if one does go, it wont be the Jaguars. London will probably never be the full time home of an NFL team, so it’s time to stop all the chatter about the Jags leaving Jacksonville. Shad Khan is doing things the right way for the team and the city. The stadium is up to par, and the team has a glimmer of hope of improving within the next year…Jaguars fans are alive and well.

  11. Let’s review this again. Public funded NFL office buildings are built for these teams in exchange for the longer term local economic advantage. When the games are played overseas the local economy gets screwed. NFL continues to take advantage of it’s American fans.

  12. If I owned the Jags, I’d move them to London next season as long as I got all my home games in the 9:30 am ET slot.

  13. While I don’t think a full-time team in London makes much sense, I do believe that Goodell and the owners want it to happen, so they’ll give it a try, and the league will subsidize a team there for a few years.

    There’s all that European (and Asian, and South American) money for the taking, so all they see is dollar signs.

    I’m not convinced that American football is anything other than a novelty overseas, but we’ll see.

  14. The current set up makes the most sense. The logistical issues are spread amongst teams which increases exposure for all teams. A small market team plays one game per year, offsets some of the issues associated with being a small market team. Everyone wins.

    Jax is 21st in attendance for 2014. Not bad at all considering market size.

  15. I’m sure the taxpayers (and funders of the stadium) of Jacksonville appreciate the London trips as the city gets ZERO tax revenue from the lost game days. The bars, restaurants, hotels, shops, all appreciate the lost revenue as tens of thousands who would normally spend money on Sundays going to games merely stay at home to watch games. The hundreds of people who normally would have worked on that Sunday in parking, security, concessions now don’t get paid.

    Thanks greedy NFL! Keep pushing the sport on a country that doesn’t want the NFL on a regular basis! Keep alienating your base viewers and fans!

  16. Cute hat on Baby Beef. Did he lose the matching mittens? That’s why they’re attached to a string that runs up through the sleeves of your jacket, Beef. Dummy.

  17. I’ll summarize this article for you. Khan is a global businessman. The Jaguars make much more money in London. Khan’s 20 mill investment in the stadium is meaningless. The team is moving to London because they will make up to 100% more in profits every year. The End.

  18. “So just so I understand this, the jags badly want to play a game in london every year because they can make twice as much playing there as they can at home? So wouldn’t the next logical step be to play all their home games there and make vastly more money?”

    WRONG. The NFL badly wanted some team, any team, to commit to a game in London each year for four years, giving up a home game to do so. To make the deal sweeter, they agreed to give the team full ticket revenues for the game each year, plus a cut of corporate sponsorship, and teams wouldn’t have to spend much. It’s a serious bribe from the NFL to give up a home game for four years in a row, but the NFL needed someone to agree to be a guinea pig.

    If a team actually moved to London, they would have normal revenue-sharing, which means there’d be a lot less coming to the team than the Jags are getting now. It’s likely that they wouldn’t really make any more than they are in Jacksonville, and being overseas would provide a whole host of new expenses (and other issues), quickly eating away at any increase in revenue (as the NFL wouldn’t be paying for most of that any more).

    The above article neglected to mention how they get all the revenues they do from this game as opposed to normal home games. It’s a huge point and very key to understand the 15% figure. If you didn’t know the NFL was throwing a good chunk of money at the team as a bribe, you’d think (incorrectly) that it means the team would make twice as much based in London as it does in Jacksonville, which is just not accurate at all.

  19. “I’ll summarize this article for you. Khan is a global businessman. The Jaguars make much more money in London. Khan’s 20 mill investment in the stadium is meaningless. The team is moving to London because they will make up to 100% more in profits every year. The End.”

    I’ll summarize reality for you.

    Khan invested millions into the stadium before the $20M he agreed to put in for the latest round of renovations. Khan has also put millions into One Spark, an event in Jacksonville (which has now spread to Berlin – what next, Jags in Berlin rumors?) that helps entrepreneurs get funding for their projects. Khan and the Jaguars are putting forth a development plan to the city of Jacksonville for an area known as the “Shipyards” (a piece of land on the north bank of the St. Johns River close to the stadium) where they want to build not just an indoor training facility but also a residential/retail area with a serious attraction as well (such as a possible marina or aquarium). Khan is investing a LOT in the city of Jacksonville, with the Jaguars tied to parts of that investment, tethering the team to the city.

    The 15% figure with London comes from the NFL bribing a team – in this case, the Jaguars – to give up a few home games for their experiment, allowing the team who agreed to make far more revenue with these special games. The usual revenue-sharing is thrown out the window. The Jaguars are taking home a lot larger chunk of the ticket sales, as well as corporate sponsorship money. Those deals will not be there for a team based full-time in London, so the revenues per game will drop off significantly (to say nothing of the fact the NFL is pushing these handful of mixed games very hard, and you won’t have parades and all kinds of events surrounding every home game if a team is based there).

    In short, the Jaguars are not leaving Jacksonville, because it wouldn’t make financial sense to do so.

    “The End.”

  20. “I’m sure the taxpayers (and funders of the stadium) of Jacksonville appreciate the London trips as the city gets ZERO tax revenue from the lost game days.”

    As a taxpayer, I’m okay with the short-term loss (and I’m also losing out on a home game as a season ticket holder, but at least they aren’t charging me for it). I know that Shad Khan and a number of city officials are working to develop relationships between Jacksonville and European companies, which is starting to pay off and, in time, will bring long-term growth to the city with new jobs and a lot more tax revenue. It’s been a plan of the city leaders for a while now, with them making visits overseas. Using the Jaguars to sell Jacksonville to people is a great extension of that.

    We’ll have our games back in a couple of years. The city will have more jobs and money. The Jags will have extra revenues and will by then be competitive enough to fill the stadium every week (it’s already pretty full, but those handful of no-shows will turn out to be “shows”). Everyone wins.

    You have to think long-term with this kind of stuff.

  21. Kaptingravin, thanks for the info. I’m a Jax native (22yrs) transplanted to TN. I’m very enlightened now, and feel even better about the security of my team and home city. Thanks again.

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