Washington has big decision to make on Griffin

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With six games left in the 2014 regular season, Washington has a big decision to make regarding the player for whom they gave up three first-round picks and a second-round pick in 2012.

By May 3, 2015, only days after the three-year anniversary of the arrival of Robert Griffin III in Washington, the team needs to determine whether to extend his rookie contract through 2016.  To activate the fifth-year option, Washington must tender Griffin a 2016 salary that, given his status as a top-10 draft pick, equals the 2015 transition tag for quarterbacks.

Based on current calculations, that’s $18.4 million.  The salary would be guaranteed for injury only, which for a guy who has had a few serious injuries makes the possibility of paying him $18.4 million to not play in 2016 a more-than-negligible possibility.

If Washington decides not to extend the contract, he’ll make $3.2 million for 2015 and then, barring a new deal, become a free agent.  Based on Griffin’s current level of performance, the team may be inclined not to pick up the option.

“He has a lot of improving to do, obviously,” coach Jay Gruden told reporters regarding Griffin after the game.

If Griffin doesn’t start improving quickly, it’s hard to imagine Washington rolling the dice with $18.4 million for 2016.

125 responses to “Washington has big decision to make on Griffin

  1. No way that option is picked, even if he blows it up last 6 games, highly unlikely. Dude is worth veterans minimum at best, and i am being kind.

  2. I think he deserves to be dumped. 7 points vs. Tampa at home? Really? I think this guy has had a boatload of excuses, but I think he has run out of them. He’s just not very good.

  3. Maybe you don’t pay him the $18M. But you also don’t give up on the guy. As someone whose team (Vikings) has not had a good QB in 80% of the past 20 seasons, I say appreciate what you have. RGIII has potential.

    Keep in mind that at this point in Aaron Rodgers’ career, he had thrown exactly 11 NFL passes while learning the game on the bench.

  4. The Washington Footballers are a sucky team under a sucky, nutjob owner. They won’t be good for another decade at least, and not because of the QB. RGIII would probably be a good QB playing for a different team, while the Footballers continue their death spiral.

  5. The only gave up two first round picks for him and a second. They swapped one first round pick (which they used) so they weren’t out a pick.

  6. Snyder mortgaged the future of his franchise on this kid, and look what happened. There’s no salvaging the situation. Griffin will be out of the League in 2 years. Has Subway fired him yet?

  7. Everyone here is calling this a no brainer, but the reality is that Dan Snyder will make the final call. Not picking up that option will be an admission of a terrible decision, something Snyder has never been quick to do.

  8. Too much money for Chief Bob.

    Colt is a winner that was not given a chance. Let him play and see if he’s worth keeping around.

    As for Chief Bob, restructure his salary or cut him. Honestly, the only teams I see giving him a shot as a number 1 are the Rams and Bucs.

  9. that is a lot of money for a major question mark.

    how far have he and Cam fallen from a couple years ago when it looked like the running QB was unstoppable in the NFL.

    now its really just the smart QB who can run, Wilson, Smith, Rodgers. those guys do the most damage and win games, pure runners struggle. its rare to see big time development in a player’s passing game past a certain age.

  10. Once he lost his mobility and teams game planned for him , he has been a disaster. He is a horrible pocket passer and if he rolls out he just gets put back in his wheelchair. Cut him and don’t’ even think twice about it.

  11. You guys are forgetting, Danny boy drafted him, paid a high price for him and Danny has a huge ego. He just might pick up that last year

  12. There was never any chance at all he was worth all the draft picks they gave up.
    Zero.
    It was an idiotic move.

  13. Just sucks that we gave up 3 high picks to get him. Those picks could have been quality starters for years for us.

  14. While I believe a big part of the team’s struggles fall in RG3, I thought the Jay Gruden hire was bad from day one. If the team finishes 3-13, I wouldn’t be surprised if Gruden is one-and-done in Washington.

  15. Danny.. Pull up Haynesworth’s old contract on your computer, hit the replace button to replace Haynesworths with Griffen. This will be your smartest decision yet. He already has the logo to be great.

  16. Rolling the dice is an indication of a bad bet, it implies you are the gambler going up against house odds.

    It’s best to be the one watching your opponent to agree to throw the roll. The outcome is irrelevant, since you win in advance of the roll happening by virtue of being the one with better leverage before finding out what the result of the roll is.

  17. Enough of this guy. Enough excuses, enough reasons. Overrated, overpaid, overpriced. Underachieved, under performed, underwhelming. Wow. Great. 1 NFC Championship game. Mark Sanchez went to two. Nuff said. For all the HTTR spewers and the Minister of Redskins propaganda, Denial is not a river in Africa.

  18. Remember back a couple of days ago when Coach Gruden swore that Washington was so close to being 7-2? Yeah. Nobody believed it then and nobody believes it now.

  19. The problem is all inside his head it’s plain to see
    The answer is easy if thought about logically
    It time for the Redskins to face reality
    And quit him and move on to another

  20. its tough to prepare for games when ur crying in the media and getting in twitter disputes with ur doubters. the guy is a bum and doesnt have the mental capacity to succeed in the league. Nice job trading away years worth of first rounders, glad to see it worked out well. Synder is probably the only owner in the league worse then jerry

  21. If they let him go, do they get a compensatory pick? If so, that would be a factor in the equation.

    The other option is to work a new deal with him. It would be nice to think that he would be amenable to a contract that would pay him well if he improves but not kill the team if he doesn’t.

  22. When was the last time RG3 won 2 games in a row? Answer – 2012
    Colt McCoy played 2 games at QB and the Redskins won both. But having given up so much to get Griffin, he will always get the nod from Dan Snyder.
    Sorry Redskins – you can’t easily fix dumb ownership.

  23. I hate the redskins, period, but they never were able to draft a QB that was really worth anything. They were always better getting “cast offs ” from other teams, and DONT say theisman…he was a product of a great surrounding cast

  24. Any smart GM would not pick up that option and then try to sign him to an extension that makes sense and one that will allow you to trade him if necessary, in 2-3 yrs….can’t give up on him yet, you have to much invested in him and you can’t pay him 18 million either…..

  25. Chicagoans think we have it bad with Cutler. Look at Newton, RG111, Dalton. Even Rivers, Wilson and Ryan are struggling as of late. The Bradyss Mannings and Rogers don’t grow on trees, nor are they available in every years draft.

  26. They had to try and get a franchise qb, no harm in that.
    He is decent, but injury prone.
    Draft another this year in rd 1 and keep trying.

    Not a skins fan, just being realistic.

    I think raiders better do same.

  27. I have one thing to say about this bust and horrible org from the weasel owner down to the weasel coach………HOW BOUT THOSE COWBOYS!!!!

    THATS FOR ILOGICAL VOICE….LOL

  28. Lifetime Skins fan, but I have noticed RG3 can not read pass coverage. In the right system he might be OK, but not this system.
    The running QB has never lasted..can you say Daunte Culpepper. Either you can read D or you can’t, sadly RG3 can not. Only reason Kapernick & Wilson are not lousy as well is because of their D. Cam is stinking the field-up as well?

  29. Well, given the fact that rookie salaries aren’t HUGE any longer, the decision is neither big OR complex. Do NOT extend him. There is NOTHING that can be done about the draft choices . They are in the past. Eighteen vs Three Million makes for a pretty CLEAR choice.

  30. While I believe a big part of the team’s struggles fall in RG3, I thought the Jay Gruden hire was bad from day one. If the team finishes 3-13, I wouldn’t be surprised if Gruden is one-and-done in Washington
    __________

    And how much control has Gruden had? Everyone knows who is really calling the shots.

    I know $$ talks, but no coach in his right mind should take this job. Especially not a first timer. Shanahan had rings and still had Little Danny butting in.

  31. I think Snyder should bring back Albert Haynesworth. Has there ever been so much money spent for so little return?
    Can’t wait until they make him change the name. Cry, Danny Boy, cry.

  32. Id see if you can trade him. If not at the very least don’t pick up the option. Let him play out this year and next then see where he’s at end of 2015. He just looks like a bust at this point but he is young and if he can stay healthy it may click for him by next year.

  33. So not only did they screw the pooch with one of the worst trades in history, they compounded the error by siding with a bust instead of the coach (Shanahan).

    They need a QB, but first they need unglamorous things like an OL. Does anyone really think Snyder will allow that? And they will be repeating another prior error if they let contract manager (and current Snyder yes-suit) Allen try to make personnel decisions. No one who has studied how Snyder manages his companies would be surprised.

  34. Sign him … then pay him off … complain that it’s not a salary cap situation, and whine that you’be been penalized when the league makes you play by the rules.

  35. Wow. RG3 blew the coverage on Mike Evans. And the way he didn’t block for himself is just horrible. Let’s not forget the two field goals he missed. Last week he gives up 29 points to the Vikings and 27 to the Bucs. It’s really pathetic everyone is ignoring the elephant in the room. RG3 can’t do it all. Reality is the Redskins are a bad team. Especially our defense. What coverage was called that puts Mike Evans one on one with Riley?!?!. To blame Griffin for this loss is ridiculous and shows lack of football knowledge.

  36. The guy can’t play from the pocket and can’t stay healthy playing read option. It is not a difficult decision.

    What I wonder is who will have the longer shelf life: the people that blame Bush for Obama’s problems or those that blame Shanahan for RGIII’s problems.

  37. Two weeks to put a game plan together for the Bucs and you put up 7 and surrender 27 to a 1-8 team? 99.9% of this is epic failure is the coaches fault. It starts at the top. Not Danny. He has had a no hands approach that the media refuses to accept. The top is Allen down and then Gruene and his wack staff. This offensive is WORSE than last year. Why keep Lithengarbage and why sign Lauvo when he is ranked as one of the worst at his position? Horrible free agent pick up Allen. It’s too obvious the coaches have lost the players interest

  38. You can’t argue that this guy hasn’t lost some explosion. The Bucs linemen were running him down consistently and he seems hesitant to scramble. Still taking big hits too.

  39. The picks they gave up shouldn’t factor into the decision. You don’t pick up the option. If he improves next year, you happily pay him out the nose because you have the most important position in football solved. This next offseason though, a lot needs to change from Haslett needing to get out to the offensive line needing a major overhaul (we’ve been saying this for a decade now) to Griffin needing to make more strides in the offense. The bottom in this division isn’t that far from the top if you make sound moves. There are no franchise changing QBs coming out in this draft in the image of an Elway or Luck, so you can afford to go another year with him.

  40. This is why you avoid Heisman Trophy winners. They’re busts. You have to go all the way back to the mid 80s for the last winner who did anything worth a darn in the pros. Carson Palmer was the only above average QB of all the QB winners since 1989.

  41. @ Big Ant TV. How did shanahan ruin RG3s career? The current coach said “he has a lot of improving to do.” RG3 may have had setbacks due to injury, but the real issue is his decision making. It’s obvious he doesn’t study film or work on mechanics. He improvises, which neither shanahan or Gruden approve of.

  42. Here we go again….
    …..McCoy…………………..Tebow
    Yrs………….5………………………….3
    Comp%:…. 59.9…………………….47.9
    TD/INT:.. 22–21……………………17-9
    PY:………… 4,828……………………2,422
    Rating:…… 77.1………………………75.3
    ……………………….Rushing yds:.. 989
    ……………………….Rushing TDs:… 12

    Plus, lead crappy team to playoffs and playoff victory with a playoff record of 31.6 yards per completion.

    Plus, college:
    2× BCS National Championship (2007, 2009)
    2× SEC Championship (2006, 2008)
    Allstate Sugar Bowl Champions (2010)
    2× First-team All-American (2007, 2008)
    Second-team All-American (2009)
    3× First-team All-SEC (2007, 2008, 2009)
    AP Player of the Year (2007)
    Davey O’Brien Award (2007)
    2× Maxwell Award (2007, 2008)
    Heisman Trophy (2007)
    Quarterback of the Year (2007)
    SEC Offensive Player of the Year (2008)
    Manning Award (2008)
    William V. Campbell Trophy (2009)

    Now, why can’t he get a chance to be on an NFL team??

  43. He won’t be any good unless he finds the right head coach, organization, & offensive play system. He’s not going to find that anywhere there’s a team with no current QB.

    I think he’d fit in fine and flourish with Big Red Andy Reid in KC next when he’s out of the Disfuntion of Columbia.

  44. We gave up a bunch of picks, that’s obvious. We fired a future hall of fame coach, and an innovative offensive coordinator because Robert wasn’t happy with them (it’s fair to criticize the Shanahan’s, but Mike is getting paid 7 mil to sit on the couch this year). What makes anyone think Danny boy won’t take that option? It’s just money. But who knows? The bond between Dan and the man formerly known as RGIII is well documented, but it doesn’t look like Robert is going to be making Synder any more money.

    My prediction as a Redskins fan is that we will make whatever decision results in the most disastrous, and drama filled embarrassment for all parties involved. There will be some great press conferences, and lots of passive aggressive, read between the lines comments.

    I really hope Robert can get his career together some place else. I’d rather see him in another uniform than this broken down, zero confidence, check down king. It’s just sad to watch this guy right now because even his body language is defeated. Can anyone else remember someone who was so poised and on point as a rookie, and then completely came apart as their career progressed?

  45. Three step drop. 1 step, 2 step, 3 step, plant and throw. Redskins version. 1 step, defender has hand on RG3’S shoulder, 2 step, defender hits RG3 for the sack. This offensive line is awesome. ….NOT!!!!

  46. He was damaged from day 1, and the majority of the denials came from DC and their fans. Nuttin’ wrong with the fans calling for McCoy during the game. Given how he played and got them 2 wins, he couldn’t have fared any worse.

    But as always, Snyder’s ego and pride will keep Griffin in a Washington jersey until he finds another pet project to replace him.

    Glad to see the circus never left DC.

  47. HAHAHA HAHA HAHA HAHAHA.
    I simply cannot contain my contagious laughter.
    Deadskins fans are so fickle.

    First they were saying get rid of Shanahan and we will have a great opportunity because he coached RG3 badly.

    Then the fickled said this is RG3 year and his injury prone body shows up and then everyone says Kirk Cousins is the better quarterback. HAHAHA HAHAHA. all of sudden Silence when he is dumped for the 3rd string quarterback and he wins 2 games in a row people say I told you Colt McCoy should have been playing all along. I love these fickled fans.

    Either way I could care less I am a lifetime Cowboys fan.

    Now that the fickled fans have run out of quarterbacks to dog and criticize I predict they are now going after Gruden, Allen and Snyder. After all who else is left to blame? HAHAHA HAHA.

    let me close by saying this guys it takes years to build a franchise. No quick fixes morons! Keep humoring me with your senseless knowledge of the game. Go Cowboys!

  48. the coach (and i use that term loosely) recently said RG Knee needed to learn how to play the position…so how “Big” of a decision is it really??

  49. Kyle Shanahan developed a great system to take advantage of Bobby’s strengths. Unfortunately, Bobby is a bit fragile and can’t maintain his health in said system.

  50. See if the NFL can work out a trade between Washington and Baylor for RG3’s statue. It could not be worse. Throw in his logo to sweeten the deal.

    somewhere Mike Shanahan is polishing his Trophies and laughing like a hyena.

  51. Two groups of people I’d like to thank. First is the former regime of the Cleveland Browns for not selling the rest of our souls to St. Louis for the chance to draft him. Second is the St. Louis Rams for going with the Washington deal instead. Maybe it was some old Cleveland Rams karma, regardless, my heartfelt thanks for not gutting our already suffering franchise for him.

  52. It’s funny after all the hand wringing over how the Shanahan’s ruined him that in fact their system gave him the only chance he had to be a good NFL QB.

  53. bigredgoog says:
    Nov 16, 2014 8:30 PM
    If they let him go, do they get a compensatory pick? If so, that would be a factor in the equation.

    The other option is to work a new deal with him. It would be nice to think that he would be amenable to a contract that would pay him well if he improves but not kill the team if he doesn’t.
    ************************************
    Right now they don’t have the choice to work a new contract. It is either pick up the option and pay the 18 M, or not pick up the option and RG3 becomes a free agent at the end of the season.
    You might mean pick up the option and then work out a new contract, but they would still be on the hook for the 18 M.
    You might also mean let RG3 become a free agent and try to sign him… probably the most likely scenario.

  54. lesterclan says: Nov 16, 2014 10:52 PM

    Now, why can’t he get a chance to be on an NFL team??
    ______________________________

    Let’s start with this
    Comp%:………….47.9

    Now add to the fact that he can’t run a traditional O so he won’t work as a back-up and you have your reasons.

    Maybe he should go play in the pass heavy CFL / arena and improve his game?

  55. The ONLY reason Snyder would re-sign him would be a delusional attempt to save face. Otherwise, this is a no-brainer. I’m sure the Jets would sign him.

  56. It’s not that tough really. Not if they use proper decision making procedure, that is. In Economics, it’s referred to as a sunk cost…an investment that cannot be altered no matter what future decisions you make. Since no future decision can alter the initial investment, proper decision making requires that you ignore a sunk cost when considering what to do in the future.

    In this case, those 1st round picks are gone. Nothing the Redskins do will get them back. So, what they need to focus on is what will they do about Griffin going forward. If they decide that his ability to perform on the field (including skills, leadership, and ability to stay healthy) warrants the kind of salary that franchise QBs around the league are making, they should sign him to an extension. If not, they need to forget what they gave up to get him, and let him go. The biggest personnel problem in the NFL is that the coaches and front office people are so afraid of admitting that a mistake was made that they simply reinforce that mistake, making it even more disastrous as a result.

  57. Cut him.

    He is a product of a system.

    College teams, where RGIII excelled…are not the same as NFL teams in terms of sheer speed.

    Everything RGIII excelled at was taken away just by the difference in speed alone.

  58. gdublud says:
    Nov 16, 2014 8:25 PM
    “Enough of this guy. Enough excuses, enough reasons. Overrated, overpaid, overpriced. Underachieved, under performed, underwhelming. Wow. Great. 1 NFC Championship game. Mark Sanchez went to two. Nuff said. For all the HTTR spewers and the Minister of Redskins propaganda, Denial is not a river in Africa.”

    NFC championship game? They lost in the wild card round.

  59. Hell, I’m calling Snyder tommorrow….I’ll throw the picks, take the sacks, and fumble the ball away for LESS THAN HALF of what he’s paying RGMe….might as well save $$$$

    $18.4 million? Hell, he’s not worth $18.40 right now.

    Trade the bum.

  60. “hazelmn says: Nov 16, 2014 8:10 PM

    Maybe you don’t pay him the $18M. But you also don’t give up on the guy. As someone whose team (Vikings) has not had a good QB in 80% of the past 20 seasons, I say appreciate what you have. RGIII has potential.

    Keep in mind that at this point in Aaron Rodgers’ career, he had thrown exactly 11 NFL passes while learning the game on the bench.?

    Exactly! RGIII has shown potential. I mean, $18 mil is a HUGE gamble, but who do you replace him with? Maybe Colt is the answer, maybe not. People love QBs until suddenly they don’t anymore.

    I hear people complaining about Andy Dalton all the time, which is nonsense. He’s not perfect, but he’s shown that he can get the team to the playoffs repeatedly. So sure, replace him…with what?

    RGIII needs to put in a lot of work, but he can still be a good QB someday.

    And I agree, hazelmn, teams rush young QBs far too much, considering what’s invested in them.

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