Ginsberg takes aim at Goodell

AP

In recent years, lawyer Peter Ginsberg has become a major agitator as it relates to the NFL’s ability to impose discipline against players.  From the StarCaps case to the Saints bounty scandal to the Ray Rice case, Ginsberg has become a fairly large thorn in the NFL’s legal underbelly.

In the wake of the ruling overturning Rice’s indefinite suspension, Ginsberg issued a statement that takes aim at Commissioner Roger Goodell.

“On the heels of Bountygate, Commissioner Roger Goodell has shown once again that he does not follow the rules in his treatment of players and that his judgment cannot be trusted” Ginsberg said.  “Under his leadership, the NFL ignored for years the need to create a stronger and more constructive program to address domestic abuse. As we all know, the Rice incident is not an isolated one.  It was only in the face of a public outcry, however, that the NFL finally took a step in the right direction with its new domestic violence policy.

“But rather than admitting he had been ignoring the domestic violence issue for years, and had failed to subject past violators to real scrutiny, Commissioner Goodell turned his own failings on Ray by punishing him a second time for an offense about which Commissioner Goodell had been fully and completely aware when he imposed the original suspension.  That action threatened to end Ray’s career.  And in so doing, Commissioner Goodell ignored the basic principle that every worker must be treated in a manner consistent with past punishments and in accordance with published procedures.

“Second punishments for the same conduct are unprecedented and not permitted as a matter of basic and fundamental principle. Perhaps now, finally, NFL owners will give real thought to whether the ‘NFL shield’ should tolerate a leader who fails to lead in important areas like domestic violence and who time and again ignores the League’s workers’ due process rights and the right to be treated with fundamental fairness. There are many lessons to be learned from this unfortunate event – Ray is well on his way to learning his from this awful event.  Time will tell whether the NFL and NFL owners are learning theirs as well.”

It’s unclear whether the Rice ruling will trigger specific action by NFL ownership.  However, the decision sets the stage for a potentially scathing report from former FBI director Robert Mueller, whose analysis could end up wreaking real havoc at 345 Park Avenue.

46 responses to “Ginsberg takes aim at Goodell

  1. Well said Ginsberg. Get that goon out of his power position and a get a real commissioner in there.

    I’m a Pats fan throughout and love the organization, but the unwavering support of Goodell by Kraft really irks me. I hope it’s all about the money for Kraft because I don’t know how else he can support him.

  2. So everyone was crapping on Goodell because he wasn’t tough enough on Rice. So he gets tough on Rice. Now everyone crapping on him because he got tough on Rice.

    Keep eating that cake that never gets smaller. Oh, and send us the recipe if you would.

    Harebrained Hypocrites.

  3. Thank God someone finally said what I have been saying for years.

    Still hoping Goodell is fired.

  4. like it or not, with any CBA
    you cant punish someone once, then say ‘well thats not enough now upon further review’ and then add on to the previous penalty for the same act unless specified in the CBA.
    Its wrong what Ray Rice did.
    its also wrong to lie about what was said and when (yes Roger put your hand in the air and your head down) when you are the authority or head of the entire organization.
    Regardless of his intentions
    Roger, i now think,has to go.
    He made it all about him and now he should pay for it.
    It’s sorta like saying lie to the fans of america they are too stupid to follow the chain of events and lies.
    When the former FBI heads’ report comes out im guessing there is going to more than pure hell to pay by the NFL.

  5. Everything Ginsberg said is true, and supported by evidence in the public record. What Goodell, and the NFL did, by attempting to throw Rice under the bus in an attempt to gloss over the NFL’s shortcomings, for decades, was wrong.

    I couldn’t be happier that a judge set Goodell, and the NFL straight. And, I hope Rice sues the pants off the NFL and doesn’t have to work a day in his life again.

  6. Greatgabbert,

    You dont get it. The point is, he had, or SHOULD have had all access to all information pertaining to this case and gave Rice a slap on the wrist 2 game suspension.

    Then in the backlash, he announced a new policy that said 6 games for a first timer.

    Then he proceeds to suspend rice for a full season when he got 0 additional information.

    Why? 1 – he got no new information and 2 – he just created a policy that said 6 games

    Goodell is an inconsistent clown who is doing everything to cover his butt all the time. What happened to the spygate tapes? Oh the were destroyed before anyone could view them? I wonder why. This guys a clown. Its a good thing football and activities related to football are so addicting – the number of viewers (and $$$) makes it look like he’s actually doing a semi-decent job.

  7. Whatever is bad for Roger Goodell is good for football and human decency. Mostly the latter…Goodell is a so drunk on power, he has lost touch with what most of us call being a “human being.”

  8. thegreatgabbert says:
    Nov 28, 2014 5:56 PM
    So everyone was crapping on Goodell because he wasn’t tough enough on Rice. So he gets tough on Rice. Now everyone crapping on him because he got tough on Rice.

    Keep eating that cake that never gets smaller. Oh, and send us the recipe if you would.

    Harebrained Hypocrites
    —————

    Everyone is on Goodell because he’s a hack. He violated the CBA by suspending Rice a second time for the same offense and then lied about why he did it by claiming Rice was ambiguous in his testimony. Everything about him is reactionary instead of out front leadership. The fact that he is judge, jury, and executioner leaves him wide open for all kinds of conflicts of interest charges and legit criticism. Yet he feels the status quo should continue. Every neutral arbitrator has called his judgment in question. He simply is not a good commissioner.

  9. 2 scenarios

    1. either Goodell is a very good man who is being puppeted by the owners

    2. He is a terrible human being, who only cares about money and power.

  10. Absolutely fantastic news! This sets the stage for the nfl to fire roger goodell thank god! Time to roll back all the changes he instituted that made us hate today’s nfl from protection to qbs to illegal hits on WRs going thru the middle. Time to get rid of flag football with rules favoring the offense and return football back to its golden age of the 70s and 80s where the doomsday defenses, the raiders defenses of jack Tatum and George Atkinson, the steel curtain and the Bears 46 defense brought fear and body parts with littered wrs qbs and rbs. Time to bring football back to its hard core fans. Good bye Goodell your reign of error is over!

  11. I can’t wait to see the ESPN 30 for 30 about this disgraceful commissioner.

    He made his bed when he was so hard on Payton with the “ignorance is no excuse” line.

  12. getakluwe says:

    Goodell is a so drunk on power, he has lost touch with what most of us call being a “human being.”
    =======================================

    I don’t call punching out a female a very good human being. If Rice were in the military he would be kicked out.

  13. How did such an excellently run organization like the Jets let Mr. Goodell get a way, SHOCKING!
    He fits in so well with those bumbling boobs.

  14. Interesting that Ginsberg says that Goodell was too lax on Domestic Violence in the past BUT he should go on past punishment as a benchmark.

    Pick one.

    Should Goodell have suspended him a 2nd time? No, he should’ve just banished him permanently because he was remorseless with a relatively brutal crime. More to the point, if you want to jump on Goodell, you should really be asking why the PA didn’t boot him from their ranks or punish Rice themselves.

  15. Rice should sue the league for lost wages. He was set to rejoin the Ravens when he got the double whammy and now he’s out of a job because Roger didn’t do his job the first time.

    Think he has a case?

  16. It’s true that Goodell screwed the pooch on this one. So did the Ravens. Scripting an apology by the abused woman shows and incredible lack of understanding about abuse.

    But here’s a question for Mr. Ginsberg; if setting up a program to combat domestic violence is so important, why the hell hasn’t the NFLPA started one for their constituents? All I ever hear from the NFLPA is what the NFL isn’t doing, but I never hear that THEY are doing something.

    Please correct me if I’m in some way out of line on this one, but shouldn’t the union be doing everything in its power to help their players stay out of trouble and learn how the real world works so they can continue to pursue their chosen profession and reap the benefits of that profession?

  17. Players and the Union would rather complain about the penalties for the bad actions than stop the actions. #smh

  18. As long as all the sheeple keep lining the pockets of billionaires and millionaires nothing will change.
    Too Big To Fail……. Ask the bankers.

  19. For all you whiners wanting a new commissioner;
    1.Goodell is the mouthpiece for the owners.
    2.He does what the 32 want him to do.
    3.All 32 support the job he is doing, because he does what they want.
    4. the League is making more $ than ever before.
    5. YOU DON’T GET A VOTE.

  20. You mean some hired gun, aka lawyer, who would for a dollar, lie for a child molester- should be taken seriously. Tired tactic, so the wife beater should be reinstated, and the comis fired——-yeah right!

  21. Trust me, the owners did not sign up for $50,000 dollar fines for legal (and clearly accidental) hits and a 50% increase in penalties when they hired Goodell. The sooner a real football fan gets the job, the better.

  22. Goddell is nothing more than a $40 million a year lackey for the owners. He was expected to go soft on Rice because all owners agree that they want their best players to be available for the game.
    Unfortunately, release of the second elevator video blew up in Goddell’s face and he had no choice but to try and fix it.
    Does anybody actually believe that the NFL did not have access to both videos?

  23. Shakespeare’s exact line ”The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers,” was stated by Dick the Butcher in ”Henry VI,” Part II, act IV, Scene II, Line 73. Dick the Butcher was a follower of the rebel Jack Cade, who thought that if he disturbed law and order, he could become king. Shakespeare meant it as a compliment to attorneys and judges who instill justice in society.

  24. beartastic45 says: Nov 28, 2014 6:25 PM

    Absolutely fantastic news! This sets the stage for the nfl to fire roger goodell thank god! Time to roll back all the changes he instituted that made us hate today’s nfl from protection to qbs to illegal hits on WRs going thru the middle. Time to get rid of flag football with rules favoring the offense and return football back to its golden age of the 70s and 80s where the doomsday defenses, the raiders defenses of jack Tatum and George Atkinson, the steel curtain and the Bears 46 defense brought fear and body parts with littered wrs qbs and rbs. Time to bring football back to its hard core fans. Good bye Goodell your reign of error is over!
    =================================

    Uhhh, no.

    After being dragged into the reality of brain injury after years of fighting it with paid “research” and shrugged shoulders, the NFL will not be returning to the Stone Age no matter who the commissioner is. Goodell acts at the behest of the owners, and whether or not he’s gone (he should be), they’ll just tell the new guy to do the same thing. They can no longer afford the legal liability of hiring people to permanently disable each other.

  25. Double jeopardy is a law term, you cant charge a man for the same murder,,twice. Theres no suck law in the private sector. No federal law that prohibits a private Co., like the NFL, from doing what Goodell did. Is what Goodell did worse then what Ray Ray did to his drunk wife? As usual the Lawyers are attempting to make Goodell the bad guy in this incident. The Ravens have voided Rays contract. If they are made to re-instate this contract, Id simply re-sign Ray Ray, then terminate the contract a second time. The NFL is playing with fire and Goodell isn’t a firemen. If Ray Ray gets all his money back, then its time to find another pastime on Sundays, like knocking out the wife,,,tongue firmly planted in cheek.

  26. It looks like this thread has been covered by between 10 and 40 NFL shills, judging by the down votes for comments that point out the facts about Mr. Goodell.

    #Goodellmustgo

  27. Godell is a farce;…… Drunk with power and a hell of salary to boot. He makes too much money for the fat cat owners. So, I doubt he’s going any ware. Too Big To Fail……

  28. dlk47823 says:
    Nov 28, 2014 8:04 PM
    For all you whiners wanting a new commissioner;
    5. YOU DON’T GET A VOTE
    ————–
    My money votes, punk. It’s been voting all year and I’ve lost nothing and missed -nothing- by not watch a minute of the NFL anything on my TV. If anything, not having ESPIN on at all has raised IQ levels in this house alone. I haven’t bought a single scrap of overpriced sweatshop lable merchandise and I make a point to buy something other than the product with big “Official _ of the NFL.” I’ve even avoided stuff that I recognize as advertising with the NFL. If guys like Kraft want to burn their golden goose to keep turning this into the Arena Flag Football League, I hope they enjoy becoming as irrelevant as MLB.

    “Hurrr durrrr, you’re still gonna watch.” Nope I’m not and guess what, I’m not the first or last person who’s gotten fed up with the NFL’s garbage and turned it off. I can’t wait to see just how badly the sports media turns on Gingerhole’s circus once their parent companies realize those billion dollar TV deals they signed with the NFL are going to start losing money. Only reason I’m here now is to say it can not only happen but people can live better lives by doing it. The country would be a better place if the majority of those hardcore NFL drunken, wife beating lifers who secretly hate the same players they cheer because they envy those players professional success and cheer a lying snake of a commissioner and his puppet masters for screwing those players whenever and however they can, would turn off the idiot box from time to time and work on being better human beings.

    College football is superior at any rate.

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