Peterson evidence includes transcript of taped conversation with Vincent

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The Adrian Peterson appeal just got a lot more interesting.

Peterson contends that NFL executive V.P. of football operations Troy Vincent told Peterson that time missed on the Commissioner-Exempt list will be treated as “time served” for the purposes of his discipline under the personal conduct policy.  Per multiple sources, the evidence submitted by Peterson in connection with his appeal includes a transcript of a conversation between Peterson and Vincent.

The existence of the transcript means that a conversation between Peterson and Vincent was recorded.  It’s possible, but not yet confirmed, that the raw audio recording also was included in the submission by Peterson.

Peterson’s appeal will be formally presented to former NFL employee Harold Henderson on Tuesday.  In addition to arguing that Peterson should get credit for “time served,” the NFL Players Association will argue that the domestic violence policy unveiled on August 28 should not be applied retroactively to Peterson for conduct that occurred before that date.

Earlier this month, Peterson pleaded no contest to misdemeanor assault charges in Texas.  He had been indicted in September for felony child abuse after admittedly spanking his four-year-old child with a switch.

UPDATE 4:08 p.m. ET:  The NFL did not specifically confirm or deny the existence of the transcript.  “Adrian Peterson and the union are entitled to present to the hearing officer any information they believe is relevant for consideration,” the league said in a statement.

46 responses to “Peterson evidence includes transcript of taped conversation with Vincent

  1. The NFL front office is a complete disaster. Too many higher ups trying to steer the ship while we watch it move closer and closer towards the rocks.

  2. Transcript is only as valuable as whatever recording it was made from.

    IF the recording does not surface, the transcript’s value is essentially zero. ANYONE can type ANYTHING and call it a transcript but without the audio to go with – it’s a work of fiction. Holds zero value.

  3. Fidel Goodell: “I have not, nor has anyone in my office, heard the audiotapes, to my knowledge on Adrian Peterson.”

  4. At this point, would any of you lay money on the nfl…in any proceeding?!

    Despite your hatred of AP, he deserves not only to return ASAP, but to also keep all his salary.

  5. It’s disturbing how many of you side with AP on this. Who cares if the NFL screwed up a lot of issues. Suspending AP isn’t one of them. The guys a child beater plain and simple. As a father who disciplines my kids and actually lives in the same house as them this AP thing is sad. How about have 1 or 2 kids and raise them? Instead these idiots are pumping out a basketball team with bench players and never sees them unless they need a beating. AP is a loser.

  6. This case leads the public to typical man emotion:
    ‘Let AP rot ‘
    ‘I don’t care what happens to him’
    ‘he should be locked up’

    All of that sounds great, and none of us have compassion for AP, but you simply can’t judge AP’s case without considering how the NFL has treated other cases.

    And that said, AP has already served a far to long sentence…………..and again, i care less about AP and would be fine if every child abuser died on the spot, but it’s just not the way things work.

    We must think and than act.
    AP should be playing next week.

  7. It’s too bad that Adrian doesn’t have a neutral arbitrator like Ray Rice to call the NFL on their illegal garbage, but instead just some NFL Front Office pony boy who sides with the NFL 99% of the time hearing his case.

  8. Funny to see all these AP haters our fans of other teams lol. If Ray Rice is eligible AP should be as well. The NFL is an employer and has to treat its employees all the same. The Judge in Rices appeal said the NFL has to be consistent in its punishment of its players.

  9. I’ll laugh if AP then gets arrested for recording a phone call without the other parties permission as this is illegal in many states.

  10. one guy knocks out his girlfriend cold, get’s 2 weeks, appeals and wins; AP disciplines his own child IN A STATE that has corporal punishment in SCHOOLS and gets screwed a whole year?

  11. conormacleod says: Nov 30, 2014 4:27 PM

    At this point, would any of you lay money on the nfl…in any proceeding?!

    Despite your hatred of AP, he deserves not only to return ASAP, but to also keep all his salary.
    =======================

    The only thing Peterson DESERVES is to be whipped in the same manner he did to his 4 year old son, including leaves in his mouth to prevent him from screaming!

    Then and ONLY then will I even consider having an ounce of compassion for that piece of trash!

  12. Irrelevant human being Adrian BeatHisSon, over the hill, plays an irrelevant position in today’s NFL. Enough already. Let him play…..for Dallas in 2015.

  13. So CowboyErik, it’s OK in Texas for a teacher to take a ‘switch’ from a tree to the legs, buttocks and genitals of a 4 year old and hurt him enough to sent the boy to a hospital?

    Yeah… I’m sure that’s the case and I’m sure not moving to Texas.

    js

  14. CowboyErik says:

    one guy knocks out his girlfriend cold, get’s 2 weeks, appeals and wins; AP disciplines his own child IN A STATE that has corporal punishment in SCHOOLS and gets screwed a whole year?
    ========================================

    The schools here aren’t allowed to stuff leaves in a four year old’s mouth then beat him bloody all up and down the front and back of his legs, including his scrotum.

  15. m056432
    Nov 30, 2014, 3:52 PM CST
    I’ll laugh if AP then gets arrested for recording a phone call without the other parties permission as this is illegal in many states.
    ————–
    That isn’t even remotely true. Just like most AP bashers, you make things up and act as if it’s true.

  16. I just love reading all the comments from AP hating, ” I’m better than you” child abuse accusers. Admittedly he went too far but true child abuse come from those do nothing parents ( and yes, this includes some of you AP hater that think you’re perfect) that let their kid walk all over themselves and do no discipline whatsoever. In mind, THAT is true abuse. Set you kid up for failure. “Spare the rod, spoil the child” was just as true 2000 years ago as it is today. Some of you are just to “evolved” to realize it.

  17. A lot of self righteous bums here. AP plead guilty, Vincent a former player, does not take marching orders from Goodell. Rally behind a true victim. AP nor Rice are victims.

  18. Not to worry, people here won’t confuse the facts with what they already “know”. He has had his day in court, but many here want him beat. That says more about you than you know. It’s like the god fearing
    Christian that wants other cultures destroyed. It doesn’t make you better. It makes you worse.

  19. @mnvikingfan you do realize Adrian did in fact get the same whoopins as a kid so yeach the same exact punishment has happened to him and he’s a millionaire because of it. Are your kids going to be millionaires?

  20. Peterson needs professional help, why doesn’t he just attend to that detail first. Its not like his Vikings are in the hunt for anything other than last place, yet again.

  21. Two party states i.e both parties must consent or be informed a recording is in process.

    California, Connecticut, Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, , New Hampshire,[26] Pennsylvania and Washington. (From Wikipedia)

    The league office is in New York BTW

  22. This case is different from the Rice case. Peterson agreed to be on the exempt list, the NFL has already won a case for him to be there for as long as the league wants.

    The agreement signed by both the league and AP states that punishment WOULD NOT be given UNTIL AFTER adjudication of the case. So once the plea was given then punishment laid out. The punishment was also with the guidelines of the new policy. Which came about before the plea agreement that allowed for his punishment.

    The league has made alot of mistakes recently, however this is a situation where they seem to have stayed with what they said they would do.

    AP should come back next year and play. It would also give the furor a chance to back down. Nobody likes punishment and frequently people think that their punishment is too harsh. AP thought that he did nothing wrong, well the courts told him different and so is the league.

  23. Let the man play for crying out loud. You can rape, beat or even kill someone behind the wheel of your car and they’ll welcome you back with open arms. Something is definitely wrong with the system here.

  24. “The agreement signed by both the league and AP states that punishment WOULD NOT be given UNTIL AFTER adjudication of the case. So once the plea was given then punishment laid out. The punishment was also with the guidelines of the new policy. Which came about before the plea agreement that allowed for his punishment.”

    Ahhh, but you conveniently leave out the fact that he was told by an NFL Vice President his games missed while being on that list would go towards time served on his punishment. The punishment is 6 games, he had already missed 9 games. He did NOT have to go on the exempt list. Period, he did so in good faith, the NFL did NOT bargain in good faith. Period.

  25. Get over the leaves in the mouth thing. Never happened. He was NOT beaten so bad he had to go to the hospital, he was switched in Texas, the mother took him to a routine Dr. visit. Get the facts straight.

  26. I didn’t conveniently leave out anything. A NFL VP that has nothing to do with the administering of punishment made a statement.

    Since everyone wants to compare this process to a legal proceeding, here is an analogy – a prosecutor can offer a plea agreement, the defendant can except BUT it is up to the judge and only the judge as to whether it will be accepted.

    Vincent has no authority over the proceedings so anything he says wouldn’t be binding. Will it help in the appeal maybe, BUT that doesn’t mean it will.

    As to his dealing in good faith, AP did because he didn’t want to lose his paychecks like most of us would. The NFL has stayed within the confines of the agreement which is what the court case confirmed when it allowed the NFL to leave him on the list for appeal.

    Should he be given time served? If I were in Goodell’s shoes – I would’ve given him the option to either miss the rest of the season without pay or to return the last 6 game checks and go with time served. However, I am not Goodell.

    This is the first official use of the DM policy that was implemented, I wouldn’t see them letting him off easy but then again, I wouldn’t see them offering the exempt list again either. I would look to see the teams cutting the players quicker, however until it happens everything is speculation.

  27. @bigjdve So, to you, its ok for the leagues rep to make deals and then have Goodell break them? Whats the point of making the deal; it’s called an agreement for a reason. Representatives speak for their organizations/bosses; the courtroom example, while true, is extremely rare and doesn’t really apply here. Also, Goodell accepted the deal when he imposed the commissioners exempt listing.

  28. “bigjdve says: Vincent has no authority over the proceedings so anything he says wouldn’t be binding. Will it help in the appeal maybe, BUT that doesn’t mean it will.”

    Not exactly true. Generally, to be legally valid, most contracts must contain two elements:

    * All parties must agree about an offer made by one party and accepted by the other.

    * Something of value must be exchanged for something else of value. This can include goods, cash, services, or a pledge to exchange these items.

    In addition, certain contracts may be required to be in writing while others are not. However federal law is very clear on this – a legal contract exists only when one party makes an offer and the other party accepts all terms of that offer.

    As for whether Vincent has the authority to make a legally binding contract or not, quite frequently lesser entities within a company (managers, agents, salesmen, etc.) make legally binding commitments, so unless you are privy to his actual employment contract (very doubtful) or it is in the public domain (extremely unlikely), you cannot make that assertion.

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