St. Louis County PD says Rams apologized for Ferguson demonstration, Rams say they didn’t

AP

The St. Louis County police chief said he received a call Monday from Kevin Demoff, the Rams vice president of football operations, to apologize for the actions of five players that made a statement in support of protesters in Ferguson, Mo. during pregame introductions on Sunday.

Demoff says he did no such thing.

Rams tight end Jared Cook and receivers Kenny Britt, Tavon Austin, Stedman Bailey and Chris Givens raised their hands in pregame introductions before their game with the Oakland Raiders. The St. Louis Police Officers Association was “profoundly disappointed” with the gesture made by the Rams players and called for the Rams and the NFL to discipline the players and wanted them to give “a very public apology.”

The NFL said Monday they would not discipline the players involves for the act.

According to Jim Thomas of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Police Chief Jon Belmar sent an email Monday night to his staff after receiving what he believed to be an apology from Demoff for the actions of Cook, Britt, Austin, Bailey and Givens on Sunday.

“I received a very nice call this morning from Mr. Kevin Demoff of the St. Louis Rams who wanted to take the opportunity to apologize to our department on behalf of the Rams for the “Hands Up” gesture that some players took the field with yesterday,” Belmar wrote in the email.

“Mr. Demoff clearly regretted that any members of the Rams organization would act in a way that minimized the outstanding work that police officers and departments carry out each and every day. My impression of the call was that it was heartfelt and I assured him that I would share it with my staff.”

Demoff later told Nick Wagoner of ESPN.com that he never apologized for his players’ actions in the discussions with the police departments.

In those conversations, I expressed regret that players actions were construed negatively against law enforcement,” Demoff said.

“At no time in any of the conversations did I apologize for the actions of our players. [The Rams] do believe it is possible to support both our players’ first amendment rights and the efforts of local law enforcement to make this a better community.”

The St. Louis County Police Department then took to social media to express their views of the conversations.

They also added a post on their facebook page that reads as follows:

“Chief Belmar was contacted today by St. Louis Rams COO Kevin Demoff. The Chief never asked for anyone from the Rams to contact him. He said the conversation was pleasant. The Chief sent an email to his police staff and used the word “apologized.” Mr. Demoff is quoted in the St. Louis Post Dispatch story saying “I expressed to both of them that I felt badly that our players’ support of the community was taken as disrespectful to law enforcement.” He further stated “I regretted any offense the officer’s may have taken.”

Even though Mr. Demoff stated he never apologized, the Chief believed it to be an apology and the Chief sent the email to police staff to let them know about the call, after he told Mr. Demoff he would share his sentiments with his staff.”

Basically it appears that Demoff felt badly over the fact the St. Louis police were offended by the gesture but didn’t apologize for the gesture itself, though that’s exactly how the St. Louis police interpreted the initial conversations with Demoff.

The Rams also released a statement Monday night in which they said they hoped to build on their “strong and valued relationships with local law enforcement.”

“We had positive discussions today with St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department Chief Sam Dotson, St. Louis County Chief of Police Chief Jon Belmar and representatives from the St. Louis Police Officers’ Association and St. Louis County Police Association during which we expressed our respect for their concerns surrounding yesterday’s game.

“What has transpired over the past four months is a tragedy that has impacted our entire community. Together we are beginning a healing process that will require time, energy and honest dialogue. The Rams will continue to build on what have always been strong and valued relationships with local law enforcement and the greater St. Louis community as we come together to help heal our region.”

144 responses to “St. Louis County PD says Rams apologized for Ferguson demonstration, Rams say they didn’t

  1. Of course he didn’t apologize. Why would he? Why would anyone?

    The St. Louis PD needs a thicker skin. They’re worse at damage control than Roger Goodell.

  2. The police should apologize for failing to install Dash cams that they had on hand would have captured this event and prevented all these protest… Then Failing to arrest rioters, Then failing to have a diverse police force in a mostly black community, then failing to shut the hell up about what a few players do on a god damn team! You are the COPS not a bunch of HIGH SCHOOLERS!

  3. Not sure how these players actions helps. Dosen’t ease tensions or builds bridges. Only widens the gap.

  4. What likely happened was Demoff did, in fact, apologize for his players’ disrespectful actions. He surely didn’t expect the conversation to reach the media, and when it did, he denied it so it doesn’t look like he went behind the players’ backs and apologized.

  5. While I disagree with their show of support, an apology would be useless & discipline is senseless.
    People are allowed to have unpopular opinions.

  6. From what I remember, Kenny Britt has a lot of experience with having his hands up, so take it from where it comes officers, I’m sure the other four aren’t road scholars either

  7. Gee I don’t remember any stances being taken on the field when Ray Rice clocked the Mrs. not too long ago…

    Yeah….

  8. Sounds to me as if by attempting to apologize in a way that he could say he was not apologizing, this Mr. Demoff was trying to appease the pro police crowd without offending the anti police crowd.

  9. What a joke! Man up Demoff! U come off as a weebly politician. Pick a side and stand up for it! Have the courage of your convictions! Maybe this is one reason why the Rams continue to bring up the rear….weak and wimpy leadership!

  10. Liars. There’s nothing wrong for supporting a thief who physically assaulted a police officer, leading to his unfortunate death by an officer protecting his own life. As long as your employer says they’re ok with it.

  11. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, whether people think that opinion is right or wrong.

    The Rams players yesterday basically shared their opinion with all that were in attendance and watching on TV.

    Many years ago, the Vikings and Saints did the same type thing just before their Thursday night game. I could be wrong, but I don’t believe there was any outcry for what they did.

    If Rams players ( or players for any team for that matter ) did the same type thing for something that had not received the exposure that Ferguson has, there *might* be one thread here about it, then not another word about it.

    That’s what should have happened with this story!

  12. “I am sorry that you think what our players did was wrong.”

    Way to ameliorate the situation !

  13. Hey Rams, that sound you hear is the support of St Louis’ taxpayers and voters seeping away like a punctured balloon.

  14. What an absolute joke. The St. Louis PD is arguing for an apology now?? How sad. Being regretful that any offense may have occurred is not the same thing as apologizing for the actions themselves.

  15. Would be equally funny if these dumb football players got robbed at gunpoint and then suddenly needed said people they disrespect.

    All is fun and games when you wear a pathetic football uniform and think you’re better than everybody else. Try talking crap in a job where you wear a bullet proof vest every day.

    While the players are entitled to their opinion, so is everybody else, and I think they’re total idiots.

  16. Demoff’s long been a PR dope who talks out of both sides of his mouth and blows hot air out of his backside. See: contradicting statements about Rams moving to LA over the past few seasons.

  17. Demoff is a real piece of……work. Trying to have his cake and eat it too. Those 5 players “show of support” for a robber and assaulter is nothing less than disgusting. I don’t care what kind of spin the supporters of that felon want to spew but they are doing nothing more than saying that they support someone who beats up store owners, steals from them and then physically confronts a police officer and that they do not believe a grand jury’s decision after 2 months of evidence was produced. At least Charles Barkley isn’t afraid to call it like it is. Also, the NFL will fine someone $100,000.00 for not talking to the media about a football game but will allow 5 players to “talk” with their actions while on the field endorsing criminal acts without fining or suspending them. Once again the league gets it wrong!!! I guarantee you that the league did not like the actions of those 5 players but chose to remain silent and sweep it under the rug vs. taking a stand. Sounds to me like the league supports the actions of a criminal. Disgusting.

  18. I wonder who Demoff and those 5 players would call first if they were being assaulted and robbed……….hopefully not the police!

  19. Don’t these cops have real criminals to chase instead of getting all butt hurt about something a football player did on the field?

  20. Just stop with all this nonsense. The players have first amendment rights to raise their hands in solidarity. Why should the Rams apologize for this? The police association totally overreacted and set race relations in America back even further.

  21. The Rams players who took part in this looked like asses. Seemed to me as if they were trying to “stir the pot”. They should have been fined for doing this demonstration at their “place of work”.

  22. The players shouldn’t apologize and the corrupt cops can go suck an egg. There is more than enough verifiable evidence that the St. Louis PD departments are all corrupt, to the extent that the one Darren Wilson previously worked for was disbanded and everyone fired for corruption and brutality.

    We need to stop putting these cops on a pedestal. If you can’t handle someone arguing with you without shooting them, then go find another job.

  23. Now probably wouldn’t be an appropriate time for a “Cops and Donuts” joke, would it?

  24. I think the St. Louis Police Department needs a better PR manager. They’re coming across as hypersensitive and punitive.

    The players for the Rams did nothing wrong. God forbid they express themselves peacefully and responsibly.

  25. Hey, St. Louis Police, stop this little pity party you’re throwing yourself. Why don’t you focus on better training for your officers instead of crying over trivial issues?

  26. “Regretting any offence that may have been taken” is NOT an apology.

    It’s PR speak for “it’s a shame that you got upset over this”.

    Gets used all the time, heck it’s probably on page 1 of the PR handbook.

  27. The sense of entitlement on the part of the Ferguson Police Department is astonishing. It is, at this point, obvious that the shooting was justified. But I don’t understand the mindset that says, we can take a jaywalking situation and let it escalate to deadly force against a teenager, and we owe no explanation to anybody. We can incite a riot, have our police dogs urinate on the memorial to the dead boy, and arrest any reporter who tries to cover the story, but it’s all of you who owe us an apology.

    They have a funny idea of what “protect and serve” means.

  28. The Rams want to have a strong and valued relationship with law enforcement, but they won’t apologize or discipline the moron football players who slapped all law enforcement officers in the face by their actions. The hell with the Rams organization and Kevin Demoff.

  29. Neither the Rams players nor the Rams organization owe anyone an apology. The players have every right to express their opinion in any fashion they see fit.

    What I find much more troubling is the police union’s response. So, as was alluded to in their press release, because the players decided to make a statement, the head of the union suggests that maybe if the team doesn’t make a formal apology, perhaps those same police officers won’t be around to keep things under control at the team’s home stadium. Real classy! Someone says or does something you don’t agree with and you threaten to not do your job and in fact, you basically say that you if anyone says something you don’t like, you will stand around and let Rome burn to the ground?

    There are 2 really troubling things with that line of thought:

    1. Are you really that petty? You are prepared to allow a mob assault and refuse to do your job in order to prove your point?

    2. You really think so little of the people you are duty bound to protect and serve that you think if you and your fellow officers weren’t there that instantly, everything would devolve into a state of chaos?

    If you are the police working my neighborhood, I would be really concerned and frankly, disgusted that a completely legally protected show of solidarity by 5 guys on a football team was enough for you to make such a disgusting, kneejerk statement.

  30. Seems like the police in that area are more worried about public perception and less worried about public protection.

  31. If RAMS players want to show solidarity and believe the media hyped and race baiting version of events, that is their choice. However the St Louis Police Officers Association should critically review their manpower allocations prior to the next RAMS home game!
    #PANTSUPDONTLOOT

  32. So you didn’t appologize for their actions. On a televised game their 1st amendamant right was to tell a lie and have people think the police (who protect and serve our people) are no good.
    My feeling is that this was the act of punks. Guess it comes from the top.
    The police risk their lives daily for us.
    Wake up.
    St. Louis people are dissapointed in this.

  33. Rams players should apologize for publicizing a myth; namely, that Brown had his hands up surrendering (read the evidence).

    If they wanted to be accurate to the situation they should have first robbed a convenience (video proof) store and then punched a cop through a window (Brown’s blood and the cop’s blood was found INSIDE the driver’s window).

    Plenty of examples of police brutality (see the Cleveland child shooting), but Brown is not one of them.

  34. Who cares??? They should apologize to Raiders fans for laying that beat down, what a joke my beloved RAIDERS Have become, With No Light at The End Of The Tunnel

  35. “I’m not choosing sides” – Kenny Britt

    We just wanted to let the (Ferguson) community know that we support them. I don’t want the people in the community to feel like we turned a blind eye to it. What would I like to see happen? Change in America.” – Kenny Britt

    Hmm yr a bright one huh, Mr.Britt??

  36. I have no problem with the players expressing their opinion on the field. My problem with this is he players seem to completely ignore the physical evidence and all the info leaked from the grand jury.

    I have no dog in this fight but where is the public support for this officer who has had his life completely turned upside down? Doesn’t seem fair.. Michael Brown is being made a martyr and Wilson vilified.

  37. So this is what our once great country has come to. The PC police have caused a middle school style argument between a billion dollar company and the police force of a large city. Ridiculous.

    What next? One of them has to be fired for misleading the public?!! Who is going to be offended that they don’t know the real truth behind the alleged apology. Get a committee to investigate and make new rules so that there can be no misunderstandings between people EVER again.

  38. Neither the players nor the management of the team has any “need” for apology.

    That “need”, if any is to be construed as necessary from the festering morass of “justice” in Ferguson, would fall in the laps of its police department which chose to shield P.O. Wilson from outside scrutiny while they worked with him to iron out kinks in his story.

    In the view of the public, this whole sorry episode firmly places the mindset of Missouri law enforcement on a subhuman par with that of Florida, where Trayvon Martin was also a victim of poorly conceived law enforcement practices.

  39. The First Amendment guarantees the players’ right to free speech. They exercised that right. ST. Louis Country PD may not have liked it, but they DID have to accept that the players expressed their feelings in this free country!

  40. I don’t see why anyone even cares. I did notice that the players were laughing when they did so I don’t really believe their heart was in it.

  41. It disheartens me to think that we as a country take our police officers for granted. We are so quick to judge them and their actions after the fact that we don’t ever put ourselves in their position. It’s easy to say “why didn’t he shoot him in the leg” but the truth is that is NOT how officers are trained. The majority of America is ignorant to this fact and if they did their due diligence they would know this.

    If anyone thinks they have an easy job they are seriously mistaken. Officers don’t find solace in killing 18 year old kids and there’s a reason every police department in this country has on-staff psychiatrists. They see more death and sadness than any normal citizen could experience in multiple lifetimes. Officers encounter an array of horrible events from kids being shot, being shot at, domestic violence, enduring a fellow officer who was slain and the list goes on.

    For one day, express some empathy and put yourself in their shoes. Oh, and try to remember that they have families as well and they probably make less money than you….

  42. Well, if cops would stop killing unarmed people (of any race), they wouldn’t feel insulted when publicly called out for it through words or actions…

  43. Demoff just doesn’t want to

    A lose creed with his fans

    B have his guys get pulled over every time they come and go to the stadium….

    Walking a fine line… Basically a shakedown from the St. Louis PD

  44. It is so very disappointing to see so many people get caught up in this mess. Unfortunately, too many people jumped on the Michael Brown bandwagon, assuming he had been gunned down in cold blood, before all the facts came out. As it turned out, Michael Brown brought about his own demise.

    What’s even sadder is that when all the facts were released, they didn’t matter. A police officer abiding by the law has been labeled a murderer, and an 18 year old thief and bully who assaulted that police officer has been made a martyr.

    If the facts mattered, the Rams (and everyone else) would have left this to the local authorities.

  45. Does anyone else find it ironic that the symbol for the protests is ” hands up, don’t shoot” yet if mike brown did that- none of this would have happened. Hands up to a police office = good , stealing from a store, pushing an old man store owner, punching a cop, and trying to take his gun = bad.

    But yea. Keep doing the protests of “hands up”

  46. Considering that the owners of businesses destroyed because of the same false narrative these players believe, yes what they did was offensive. A different night maybe but not the night those people are there

  47. I find it very interesting that the Ram’s players did t he ‘Hands up, Don’t shoot’, even though it’s been debunked beyond a reasonable doubt that it was a lie. Then again, very few NFL players are very bright…..

  48. Seems that there can almost never be anything clear-cut in our society anymore. Everyone has to prevaricate and play CYA. Disgusting.

  49. “In those conversations, I expressed regret that players actions were construed negatively against law enforcement,” Demoff said.

    What does he think the “Hands up, Don’t shoot” means? It means my hands are up Mr. Police Officer, I’m unarmed, so please don’t shoot me like you shot Michael Brown.

    Demoff is spinning his comments more than a dreidel.

  50. Although the “hands up, don’t shoot” came from defending Mike Brown who did steal those cigs and was proven to be an aggressor, albeit not under the best circumstances; the “hands up, don’t shoot” I feel has taken a new meaning unto itself. It is not about Mike Brown but more about protesting Police officers murdering and violating civil rights of it’s own citizens without any punishment. It is now time to change this.

    The NFL or Rams have no right to discipline the players. The Police sound like bullies in this instance and no one is suprised.

  51. Ignorant men do ignorant things.why bother paying attention to facts when hysteria and destruction of your own community are so much more fun right?your football players , keep your ignorant uneducated opinions to yourself and play football you clowns.

  52. crapsandviche says:

    “..I find it very interesting that the Ram’s players did t he ‘Hands up, Don’t shoot’, even though it’s been debunked beyond a reasonable doubt that it was a lie. ..”

    No, you’re thinking of the entire grand jury “investigation”.
    That was the lie…

  53. Hopefully the St. Louis PD will protest on their own, and not show up to patrol any more Rams home games…

    Let the looters police the stadium

  54. Based on the track records when it comes to honesty, I don’t think I’ll be believing the police…

  55. I don’t think the NFL pregame is the place for political statement, and the NFL should have put a stop to this with fines after the fact. I find it laughable that the Rams and the NFL are taking a hands-off approach to this situation, suggesting that players have freedom of speech. Given that players are penalized and fined for nearly anything not preapproved by the NFL, even the wrong kind of dance after a touchdown, I find this argument ridiculous.

  56. Police in St Louis need to apologize for not doing there jobs and protecting the people no matter if there black or white or whatever color. When your a public figure and the public has no faith in your ability to do your job you need to apologize!

  57. That was possibly the most ignorant, irresponsible thing I have ever seen a group of players do. If you want to honor the kid, don’t run out in front of 70K people with your hands in the air like your about to be shot by the cops. not the right message. in fact, it was the exact wrong message.

  58. I am ashamed for the St Louis Rams that they would allow the NFL to be contaminated by political activism. This spells the doom for a once proud sport.

  59. They should apologize. It was a Disgraceful act that does nothing but continue the mindless violence and destruction. I wish nothing but misery to the players involved and the Rams organization.

  60. People act as if these Ram players have a clue on what happened in Ferguson or even care.

    These are not Mensa members here, they are football players and not very smart ones at that.

    Let them have their say, nobody is listening anyway.

  61. As long as those players were wearing Rams uniforms, they were representing the organization as a whole. If the owner and management don’t like their demonstration, then it’s their right to discipline the players as they see fit. since nothing was done, that should tell us what “The Rams” support…

  62. The mentality involved is tragic. How does a young man getting shot while attacking a police officer equate to “let’s burn some buildings, flip over cars and steal some Jordans? The true victim here is the officer that had to resign out of fear for his life because he was protecting the community from people like Mike Brown. People like Sharpton make money off of racial division so they stoke the fires regardless of the facts. That young man died because he attacked an officer, not because of his skin color.

    As some said, this needs to end. Here’s how:
    1) teach your kids about personal responsibility and right from wrong
    2) don’t steal or behave like a hoodlum and control impulse behavior
    3) do what the cops say when they respond (if you feel your rights are being violated, handle it at the police station rather than on-screen when emotions are high and the cops still need to handle the situation and deal with your anger and resentment. They are there to protect the entire community

    If you can’t do that, then don’t call 911.

  63. As per usual in comment threads for posts of this type, there’s a bunch of people using their freedom of speech/expression to tell others they don’t deserve the same thing and should shut up. Hypocrites, the lot of you. It doesn’t matter whether you or the police don’t like what those players did, they still have the right to right to express themselves. Those of you who don’t get that are the bigger problem.

  64. Did the players also honor Brown by robbing a store, beating the clerk, and violently assaulting a police officer while trying to take his weapon????????

  65. The Police Association should reciprocate by courteously declining to provde police services and security for the St Louis Rams’ home games from now on.

    Then they can decline to apologize for THAT later as well.

  66. Wide receivers Tavon Austin, Stedman Bailey, Kenny Britt and Chris Givens and tight end Jared Cook didn’t criticize police or make threats against them. They didn’t disparage the grand jury that declined to indict Wilson.

    They didn’t even mention Wilson, in fact.

    Instead, they expressed disappointment that, in 2014, there remains so much discord between races. They spoke of their anguish at the death of yet another child, regardless of the circumstances. By both words and deed, they conveyed their fears that the cycle of violence and distrust will spin on and on and on without an end.

    This wasn’t just about Ferguson. It was about America.

    “Violence should stop,” Bailey said after Sunday’s game. “There’s a lot of violence going on here in St. Louis. We definitely hear about it all, and we just want it to stop.”

    That kind of ideal needs no apologies.

    —- USA TODAY Sports 12/2/2014

  67. it seems the local PD is more concerned with feeding their egos than community relations. I mean seriously, they are throwing a temper tantrum because 5 players chose to do something they didnt like?! When did this become East Berlin anyways?

  68. replying to “Instead, they expressed disappointment that, in 2014, there remains so much discord between races. They spoke of their anguish at the death of yet another child, regardless of the circumstances. By both words and deed, they conveyed their fears that the cycle of violence and distrust will spin on and on and on without an end.”

    did you speak with them? interview them? Ho do you know all this? This is Lord of the Rings fantasy of what you want to believe. I wish you were right, but I expect the football players are not particularly smart and just did what they felt fit in with the crowd.

  69. Teach your uneducated youth what it means to hold a Concealed Carry License!!
    It means that the person who holds the license, such as policemen, and other citizens who have passed background checks, and whom have completed the course, SHALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO SHOOT TO KILL ANOTHER HUMAN BEING, should that person, FEEL that their LIFE IS THREATENED!
    Do you not think that the officer FEARED FOR HIS LIFE, when he was attacked through the window of his car, AND the victim reached for his gun???
    Kinda obvious, isn’t it?

  70. I’d rather be a St. Louis Ram with a nice contract playing football for half a year, than a St. Louis police officer working for mincemeat, trying to keep the peace in a complicated situation day in and day out. I know the police officers would trade jobs. Not so sure the players would do the same.

  71. The Rams are as good as gone from STL, so this is no surprise to see the players and entire organization thumb their noses at local law enforcement.

    Perhaps Goodell should force the players to do a public service announcement to remind STL youths to not get into an altercation with a police officer.

    Seems this could have all been avoided with some common sense.

  72. How is it that posters on here say “it’s been proven that he did not have his hands up”. How has it been proven?They took about two or three people who said he did not have his hands up over about 14 or 16 people who said he did. Not to mention the two white construction workers who were on a video after the shooting saying he did have his hands up. Police lie. They are human. I remind people of the Florida case were the cop stopped the black man in the car. As the man got out of the car the police asked to see his licence. The man reach to get his license out of his back pocket. He realized he did not have it and left it in the car. As the man reach back into his car the cop unloaded on him within a second of him reaching into is car. The man asked “why did you shoot me, I was reaching to get my license”. The cop lied and told his supervisor that the man came at him in a aggressive manner. He feared for his life. The only reason the cop got caught was that he had a camera on his dashboard. I guess he forgot or maybe they were going to erase what happen and forgot who knows. He was brought up on charges. So when players are informed and experience bad behavior by the police, one could understand. Unless you live in a box.

  73. birdsfan7 says:
    Dec 2, 2014 12:44 AM
    From what I remember, Kenny Britt has a lot of experience with having his hands up, so take it from where it comes officers, I’m sure the other four aren’t road scholars either
    ————————————-
    LMAO… It’s “Rhodes” scholar, hahahaha.

    ROAD? LMAO…

    Oh, the irony…

  74. To all of you racists out there, condescendingly demanding us to “read the evidence” (whatever that means), remind yourself of these facts, as released in the grand jury decision to not indict;

    1) After killing Brown, the officer left the scene, unescorted, with his gun and other evidence, before any other officers could arrive.

    2) The officer arrived at his police head quarters alone and washed Brown’s blood off his hands before it could be swabbed and photographed, against all police standards. The PD would claim that they didn’t have a photographer inside the office, so they weren’t able to take pictures. I don’t know about you, but I’ve got several cameras with me wherever I go, including my mobile phone and tablet.

    3) Also while at the PD, the officer placed his own firearm into an evidence bag. We have no idea what he did with the gun before that.

    4) Back at the scene, while Brown’s body lay at the scene for several hours), a crime scene investigator decided seemingly arbitrarily, that there was no need to conduct a crime scene investigation, because the officer’s story seemed legit enough to not warrant one. The crime scene investigator also did not take any pictures of the scene, because he claimed his “camera battery was dead”. That is such a joke.

    These are only 4 examples of why the evidence you racists tout so proudly is weak and biased beyond belief. It also proves that the Ferguson PD was either covering up for the officer, or at the very best, shows their complete ineptitude in handling a crime scene.

    Don’t take my word for it, though… Go “read the evidence” for yourselves.

  75. Is this article saying that cops are liars?

    No…the article is saying what everybody knows. Cops are control freaks that only hear what they want to hear – just like the night that Brown was murdered.

  76. Cops are like Judges…they think they are above the law. If they would ever once be held accountable, things might change. That will likely never happen.

  77. Police officers need to remember they work for us, the taxpayer. WE pay their salaries, they work for us, not the other way around. Police officers are sworn to protect and serve, not murder an unarmed citizen.

  78. @natelan

    I agree with you. Those are the facts in the case, and they would have had my antennas up, if apart of the grand jury, enough for me to question, what could have happened in those these moments in meantime in between time!

  79. Only criminals could possibly agree with destroying an infrastructure that belongs to hard working citizens. Those buildings did not belong to criminals. They belonged to hard working citizens that pay taxes and vote. Many of you would most certainly be on the phone to 911 if someone was trying to cause you harm or rob you. Your talk and sentiment about the known criminals that get harmed while in the progress of committing crimes does fall on deaf ears and it does not matter what you say. We the people will not allow for that kind of disturbance to take down this great nation. You should respect your elders and law enforcement as they risk so much to protect you. All of them have families that worry for their safety and just reading some of your statements make me sick. I can easily see how disrespectful you are when you act as if you are crying out for the law to protect you from being harmed for committing crimes against the people, yet you do not believe in the justice system at all. The grand jury convened and found no cause to charge the innocent police officer. Who told you that you are the law? Remember, Lady Justice is blind and she does not care if the law hurts your feelings. She is the law we the people created to protect ourselves from criminals. I am sure that there is not one of you that would not fight back if someone was trying to cause you harm. Justice has spoken in favor of the law officer and that should be final. You are not the law and never will be. As voters we elect those who create laws we want. I would hope that our country never creates laws based on the demands of criminals who destroy innocent people’s work places, lives, and jobs. I am disappointed that our leaders no longer believe in the laws they have sworn an oath to the Constitution to protect. Those laws stipulate that if a grand jury decides that they cannot find a cause to charge an individual with a crime, then no crime has been committed. Yet, the young officer that wanted a decent career in law enforcement now finds himself on a road where I am sure that Lady Justice has dropped her blindfold and feels great remorse and sorrow for. Yes! There has been an injustice committed. That injustice has been committed against the officer that was trying his best to do a job in a situation that I am sure he had never been prepared to deal with. No matter how much training we get, sometimes there are situations that we regretfully cannot escape. How pathetic! You blame an officer who had nothing to do with how the jury would decide. Why would you think that a jury should punish him when they found no cause to do so? You should respect your country and those who serve your county. Where was any of you at when the problem occurred? Do you teach others to cause no harm? Where are your training programs to help young people not get into trouble? Yee without sin cast the first stone. If you did not try and help these teens find jobs and be good law abiding citizens, then you are only rioting against yourselves.

  80. @dmreeves1960,
    I got to hear from the police officer, but no one can hear Mike Brown, and Mike Brown’s side of the story as to what went down and how it went down. When only one person is talking, and can talk, we only get one side of the story.

    The police personality serves to insulate officers from the rest of society. It fosters an “us versus them” mentality. The cops are the good guys and everyone else is a potential bad guy. There is a constant power struggle between the good and bad guys. Police believe that societal order depends on the good guys winning — at any cost. When anyone challenges the police, ie the protesters of Brown killing, the police defend their right to enforce control and authority. Officers must trust each other to provide assistance and back-up in their struggle to maintain control. They develop strong bonds of loyalty that ensure they will be there for each other.

    The Brotherhood must be reliable in life and death situations. Cops — and firefighters — stick together.
    So sorry if I don’t believe everything that hear from the officer.

  81. Seriously, who is in charge of the SLPD social media accounts? A lot of the posts made seem very immature considering that they were made by a federal agency.

  82. The Rams players have the right to show solidarity with a criminal who stole, was high as a kite, and attacked a police officer. I’m sure Kenny Britt feels a special connection with criminals, since he’s seen the back of a cop car more than once.

  83. camcameronsucks says:
    Dec 2, 2014 8:09 AM
    It disheartens me to think that we as a country take our police officers for granted. We are so quick to judge them and their actions after the fact that we don’t ever put ourselves in their position………

    Sorry on behalf of everyone who can’t identify, relate, have sympathy or empathy for this cop or for any other cop who has taken the life of a suspect or countless more innocent person. But while we’re on the subject, how bout them just trying once, just for once, to be at the other end of a “routine stop” or a stop and frisk. I bet you they won’t be able to relate neither.

    Imagine that.

  84. Personally, any white person who sides with Wilson is not even a suspected white supremacist to me, they are one. Seeing the response of the European press, such as England and the social media of non white American people almost all of them are astonished the cop got off and the level of racial abuse still in America

  85. Only in America will the foolish will cheer when the supposed “good” guys do bad things. Maybe if the thin blue line and it’s shills stop acting like they’re at war with their own fellow citizens things like this wouldn’t escalate into killing in the first place. Maybe if the “good” cops policed their own and put the “bad” cops in jail with all the other lawbreakers, people might be willing to trust them at their word. Maybe if cops realized that any situation where lethal force is used on an unarmed citizen instead of whining and blubbering on with childish threats to stop doing the job they signed up to do because everyone isn’t on their knees licking jackboots riots wouldn’t start in the first place. Maybe if cops would spend some of those Homeland Security pork, errrr, grants on tasers instead of armored personal carriers and sniper rifles this never would have happened.

    If cops can’t or won’t acknowledge the difference between police work and military action, quit and join the army so the rest of can train some cops who don’t kill unarmed citizens, act like a kindergarten class when called on it and get belligerent. If your response to someone saying you’re wrong is to threaten to pull the out of cars and be even more belligerent for simple traffic stops, you’re on the wrong side of the prison cells.

  86. satchseven says:
    Dec 3, 2014 5:17 AM
    Personally, any white person who sides with Wilson is not even a suspected white supremacist to me, they are one. Seeing the response of the European press, such as England and the social media of non white American people almost all of them are astonished the cop got off and the level of racial abuse still in America
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    As a white person myself, I completely agree with you.

    Defend the cop? Instant racist in my eyes.

    A majority of them won’t admit it or can’t see it, but it’s still the truth.

  87. During job interviews, police departments around the country still routinely ask potential new officers before they’re hired, one very important question;

    “If you were an officer in our department, and you witness a fellow officer tampering with evidence in order to conceal police misconduct, what would you do?”

    Now, the compassionate human mind logically assumes that the interviewing officer expects and wants to hear the candidate say something like “I would immediately report it to my superiors”.

    But that answer will get you a fast pass out the door.

    What the interviewing officer ACTUALLY wants to hear, is “I would look the other way, it’s none of my business”.

    That’s the answer that gets you the job in this country!

    The best thing to come out of this Michael Brown slaying, is that Obama and Holder are now conducting routine conferences pertaining to police misconduct, race relations and the militarization of local police agencies.

    If Brown’s death ensures that fewer police get away with murder, that fewer minorities get unlawfully profiled, and that fewer police agencies have FREAKING ARMY TANKS AT PEACEFUL PROTESTS, then at least his family can take some solace in that their boy died a martyr for a good cause.

  88. Here we go again, another no indictment of a police officer this time in New York, who banned choke holds in 1993, choked a man to death and there was not enough evidence for an indictment, and the police officer used an illegal choke hold…WOW

  89. mdpgc says:
    Dec 3, 2014 7:05 PM
    Here we go again, another no indictment of a police officer this time in New York, who banned choke holds in 1993, choked a man to death and there was not enough evidence for an indictment, and the police officer used an illegal choke hold…WOW
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    At least Holder and the Feds might take action this time. Probably not, but one can hope.

  90. I find it ironic that the NFL seems to feel that controversial on-field political displays coordinated among several players are completely acceptable, yet coordinating touchdown celebrations or using the football as a prop in said celebrations are considered strictly verboten and subject to official sanction.

    Freedom of Speech or not, if I were to broadcast controversial or inflammatory political statements while on the clock at my place of employment, I would certainly be disciplined if not fired outright. It’s refreshing to see those same standards apply to the privileged few who play a kid’s game for millions of dollars.

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