Jay Gruden agrees with his brother, 3-10 is a mess

Jon Gruden said this week that his brother, Jay Gruden, is in the middle of a mess in Washington. Jay Gruden agrees.

Asked about his brother’s comments today, Jay Gruden said that when your record is 3-10, you do feel like you’re in the middle of a mess.

“Three and ten, that’s a big mess no matter where you are, Washington or all the other teams that are having losing records right now,” Jay Gruden said. “It’s not a good situation. Coaches put a lot of time and effort into this thing, and GMs and all that, and you want to see success and we haven’t witnessed a lot of success here lately, but it’s our job to keep coaching and trying to get this thing turned around, and trying to create a stable environment here, and environment that is conducive to working and learning and trying to get the best out of our players. The results may not show right now, but hopefully in the future, with hard work and preparation, they will.”

Jon Gruden talked specifically about the quarterback situation in Washington, and hinted that his brother doesn’t think Robert Griffin III will ever be the right guy to lead the franchise. Jay Gruden didn’t say anything about that. Instead, Jay just said what we all can see: His team is 3-10, and that is a mess.

62 responses to “Jay Gruden agrees with his brother, 3-10 is a mess

  1. I love the 5 yr guaranteed deal….Imagine if that wasn’t in place how awkward things would be…

  2. Wrote this in another topic, but towards the bottom. Wanted to share it here too though –

    I live in MD between DC and Baltimore, and this is seriously the first year ever that I’ve seen Skins fans doubt their loyalty and actually say that they’ve been caring more about the Ravens than the Skins.

    People can say what they want about that mentality, but at the end of the day it seems like it can be hard to like a team when their owner makes decisions that make you want to hate them. After all, these teams are franchises for a large company, not our family. Owners would be smart to remember that. Sure there are memories, but there’s also the present, and the present can be pretty painful sometimes for fans.

  3. There’s a lot of messes.

    The owner.

    The QB situation.

    The unspeakable name.

    All three are fixable.

    Washington fans deserve better.

  4. Snyder is by far the worst owner in all of professional sports! Rich guy with a ton of money who knows absolutely nothing about putting together a winning team whatsoever. You can’t continue to surround yourself with yes men who can’t evaluate talent and throw good money after bad year in and year and think your going to win.

  5. I live in MD between DC and Baltimore, and this is seriously the first year ever that I’ve seen Skins fans doubt their loyalty and actually say that they’ve been caring more about the Ravens than the Skins.

    People can say what they want about that mentality, but at the end of the day it seems like it can be hard to like a team when their owner makes decisions that make you want to hate them. After all, these teams are franchises for a large company, not our family. Owners would be smart to remember that. Sure there are memories, but there’s also the present, and the present can be pretty painful sometimes for fans.
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    Nearly the same thing happened in Philly in 2011 and 2012. There was a sense that the fans were going through the motions by the end of Reid’s tenure. Fans were still loyal, but there was a real lack of energy in the stadium. It’s hard to get excited about a team without an identity and when you see the same kind of loss each week.

    Things in Washington are obviously far worse. They haven’t had consistent success in 25 years. Their last consecutive winning seasons were in 1996 and 1997. After that, they won 10 games three times in a decade and a half. The team Even worse? They’ve had 4 winning seasons since Snyder took over in 1999. Just…wow. As much as it’s been fun as an Eagles fan this past 15 years or so, I feel bad for the fan base at this point. They deserve better.

  6. When we analyze the great teachings of Jon Gruden we find out that Philadelphia has two franchise quarterbacks and New York has one franchise quarterback (with one more win) . Dallas’ franchise quarterback even with a bad back and broken ribs is still a better than not having a franchise quarterback which Washington doesn’t have.

  7. tindeaux as a loyal burgundy and gold fan, that lonely win against the Cowboys looks smaller and smaller after every loss.

  8. I hate this for the Redskins fans, because they are probably the most loyal fans of any NFL team.

    Dan Snyder has become what Al Davis became to the Raiders in the last decade of his ownership at Oakland.

    Snyder needs to be able to hire a coach he trusts, and not panic about a couple of mediocre seasons. The Redskins are a proud franchise with a storied history, most of it under Joe Gibbs as head coach. If you can’t trust your coach enough to give him the reigns for a three years to see what happens, then you shouldn’t have hired him.

    Jay Gruden may be a disaster as HC, but he’s working for an owner who have never trusted any head coach he’s hired. Snyder needs to hire a trusted GM, and let him make the football decisions. Until that happens, the Redskins are doomed to repeat this cycle.

  9. Okay, Gruden came in knowing full well that the owner has decreed RGIII as the starter. Period.
    So the smart thing to do would be to design an offenses around the things that RGIII does well. And then draft players to that offense.
    But it doesn’t appear that any of that has happened.
    And if you find that RGIII doesn’t do anything well. you just keep playing him until the Snyder finally gives in and admits that RGIII isn’t a starting QB.

  10. It’s tough being a Redskins fan lately. The hogs and glory days past don’t even feel like they are associated with the same team. And we as fans hate this because Snyder is the owner, he can’t be fired. Just makes you feel helpless and hopeful that he makes a sterling-like blunder so the skins can right the ship

  11. jimmysee says:
    Dec 11, 2014 1:07 PM
    There’s a lot of messes.

    The owner.

    The QB situation.

    The unspeakable name.

    All three are fixable.

    Washington fans deserve better.

    ………………………

    No they don’t.

  12. maybe if Jay spent more time working on a winning offensive strategy than throwing his QB under the bus to look better, he wouldnt be a complete failure.

    or not. still not impressed with anything this guy has done.

  13. tindeaux says:
    Dec 11, 2014 1:07 PM

    yes. however, one of those wins was against the cowboys. #priceless
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    We took it on the chin for sure. They played so hard it was clear they wanted that game more than anything. It was their Super Bowl. Kudos. After that Skins fans swore they were about to be on their way. Then they promptly lost to the Vikings and that was pretty much the end of them.

    Jay’s about to get paid not to coach, and that will be a great thing for him and the Skins will again be in last place. Note that…again.

  14. Let’s face it Skins fans, Snyder is not selling the team. So the best we can hope for is a competent GM that has actually built a team. We need a Bobby Beathard type GM. And Allen has to go.

    And Snyder needs to take a leave of absence and let the new GM rebuild this – and every single coach and player is on notice, including Gruden, Haslett, RG, etc.

  15. It doesn’t matter who’s coaching there as long as Dan Snyder owns the team. You could bring back Vince Lombardi or hire me, you, or someone else from these message boards and you’re going to have the same result with a clueless owner who insists on being undermining everyone.

  16. The ‘skins fans have always impressed me as an Eagles fan for their loyalty. They were a great crowd during some pretty terrible seasons in DC. They get a pass from me if they can’t stand it anymore. It’s just a game. There’s no good reason to lose sleep over a football team.

  17. How much of the responsibility does the Head Coach assume? Gruden was hired to win football games. So far, the only success he has had is in passing the buck. If your Quarterback(s) fail, you have failed. If your Defense fails, you have failed.

  18. I would feel sorry for him except he’s getting millions of dollars and he should have known what he was getting into. He should have known that every coach Snyder has hired has failed, even Joe Gibbs, and none have ever received another head coaching job elsewhere.

  19. The Redskins have invested way too much in RG3 in terms of draft picks and commitment to just kick him to the curb. He is clearly damaged goods right now since Shanny saw fit to put him out there against Seattle in the playoff when he could barely move on 1 leg. Colt McCoy isn’t the future. Who are the Skins kidding with this move? At least let RG3 fully heal and give him one more year to show what he do, and perhaps give him an offensive line and some receivers to throw the ball to. Does anyone actually know how to draft in Washington rather than just get the name player that doesn’t produce (Desean Jackson)? If Gruden isn’t on board with this, then he should quit or be fired.

  20. Jon Gruden is a shell of his former male self. He spends all his time now kissing the butt of every player on MNF no matter who it is.

  21. RG3 is a typical running QB… they have initial success but after a couple injuries and DCO get some tape on them their strengths become their Achilles heal. Too much was given up for a marginal talent. Most people that are hired to fix a problem want to do it with their own guy. RG3 would be better somewhere else but if I have one complaint about Gruden is he’s now going to try and market damaged goods to someone else.. instead of building him up to get max value for him.

  22. “jjackwagon says: Dec 11, 2014 1:37 PM

    Okay, Gruden came in knowing full well that the owner has decreed RGIII as the starter. Period.
    So the smart thing to do would be to design an offenses around the things that RGIII does well. And then draft players to that offense.
    But it doesn’t appear that any of that has happened.
    And if you find that RGIII doesn’t do anything well. you just keep playing him until the Snyder finally gives in and admits that RGIII isn’t a starting QB.”

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    I have a hard time picturing the oft injured RG3 doing better under a scheme that calls for more QB run/option plays and thus more hits.

    His biggest problem isn’t reading a defense, or shouldering his share of blame, tho those two items count, no his biggest issue is staying healthy and avoiding big hits. Hell he doesn’t even know how to slide for crying out loud.

    The guy is a bust.

  23. Every fan in the league is laughing at the Washington team. And we’ll keep laughing until Snyder sells the team when it might become relevant as anything but a joke again.

  24. fwippel says: Dec 11, 2014 1:30 PM

    I hate this for the Redskins fans, because they are probably the most loyal fans of any NFL team.

    Dan Snyder has become what Al Davis became to the Raiders in the last decade of his ownership at Oakland.
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    You took the words right out of my mouth. As a Raider fan I can tell you, it’s a looooooooong road back.

  25. Does it seem like Jay Gruden is always giving statements to the media? If he spent as much time doing it as he does talking about it, he might not be in such a mess.

  26. abninf says: Dec 11, 2014 2:11 PM

    I would feel sorry for him except he’s getting millions of dollars and he should have known what he was getting into. He should have known that every coach Snyder has hired has failed, even Joe Gibbs, and none have ever received another head coaching job elsewhere.
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    Agreed. And to top it off you know he agreed to make Bob his pet project just to get that job. Looks like he bit off more than he can chew trying to make the owner and GM look smart for taking RG3 and squandering all those picks. I dont feel sorry for any of them. If you take a job as a coach you should be able to coach to win. But no he coached to appease RG3 and management, no QB coach as he chose to do it himself, no OC to speak of because he chose to call plays himself, and keep Hazlett so he wouldnt have to worry about the D which was a huge mistake. No I do not feel one bit sorry for any of them, just us the fans for this poorly run organization and the awful product they are fielding. I have never been for a name change but this organization resembles nothing like the proud franchise once known as the Redskins. They shouldn’t be allowed to wear that gear, posers.

  27. RomoIsGod says: Dec 11, 2014 1:44 PM

    Imagine if Jimmy Johnson had been fired after 1 year. Jerry Jones wouldn’t exist.
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    Yeah, and the QB who played for him went 1 and 15 that year. Good thing they didn’t dump him. His name was Troy Aikman. Ever heard of him?

    PS awesome handle – “RomoIsGod”, it’s nice to make people laugh out loud

  28. tindeaux says:
    Dec 11, 2014 1:07 PM

    “… Skins will again be in last place. Note that…again.”

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    And Romo will wilt week 17 keeping the Cowboys at home, again…. seems like your team’s caught in Groundhog day too – play well early, fold week 17, and miss the playoffs (again and again, and again). Oh, except, pay the QB who loses each week 17 elite money…

  29. Your brother needs to keep his mouth shut and just do what he needs to do. God and everybody does not need to hear what goes on in your inner sanctum.

  30. RomoIsGod says:
    Dec 11, 2014 1:44 PM

    Imagine if Jimmy Johnson had been fired after 1 year. Jerry Jones wouldn’t exist.
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    Is that a joke? A cowboy fan criticizing another teams owner for being too meddlesome….

    Wow…

  31. Here’s what’s Jay Gruden’s fault:

    First of all, the QB situation. Gruden came in with the promise that he can coach up Griffin. That’s job#1. And he is giving up. It’s a classic case of over-promise, under-deliver. That’ll get you fired at McDonalds.

    Secondly, the TEAM is bad, not just the QB. The offensive line is bad. You have a bad running game. Your defense can’t stop anybody. People aren’t listening to your coaching staff anymore. You lost your leadership. You lost the confidence of everyone that you work for and for those who works for you. This season is a failure.

    You can have a failure, but you NEVER should have had ANY communications regarding giving up on ANY of your personnel. That means you have given up and that’s a bad look. You put yourself in a “Him of Me” situation and RG3 was a winner there before. He makes more money than you. He represents a ton of draft picks. And you have a record of 3-10 as a head coach. And you can’t blame RG3 for a 3-10 record.

    That’s the major issue. You are gone as the head coach. And the next coach will be that guy that convinces Dan Snyder that he can maximize his investment in RG3 by turning him and the franchise around.

  32. JaMarcus set the Raiders franchise back at least 5 or 6 years. And he didn’t cost 2 #1’s and 2 #2’s. RGIII might set the skins back a decade.

  33. jjackwagon says:
    Dec 11, 2014 1:37 PM
    Okay, Gruden came in knowing full well that the owner has decreed RGIII as the starter. Period.
    So the smart thing to do would be to design an offenses around the things that RGIII does well. And then draft players to that offense.
    But it doesn’t appear that any of that has happened.
    And if you find that RGIII doesn’t do anything well. you just keep playing him until the Snyder finally gives in and admits that RGIII isn’t a starting QB.

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    On paper, I agree. Completely. Letting RGIII flop until Snyder finally wakes up would make all the sense in the world.

    The problem, is Gruden is signed for 5 years. If he knew he was gone in 3 weeks, that might be the approach. But the reality is that he has to be looking toward the future, and if he is convinced that RGIII is NOT the future, and continues to trot him out to make a passive agressive play at ownership, he runs the risk of losing the following and respect of every other player in the locker room.

    Even when you suck, players want to know that they are putting their bodies on the line for SOMETHING. And to ask them to go out there and give their all, when you are obviously NOT doing what YOU believe is in the best long term interests is not a way to create success.

    This IS a mess. And it will be for 3 more weeks. Hopefully, one way or the other, it gets resolved at the end of the season.

  34. No way Gruden loses his job or quits.

    Now the other coaches, that’s different. I think Gruden will be making some coaching changes to his staff.

    And the QB, yeah I think that position will be a BIG emphasis in next years draft for them, not to mention the O-line and many other position holes. Gruden will pick his own QB next year, then he can live or die with his own guy.

  35. Can’t blame Dan in all of this. He has taken a back seat in recent years. The only fault is not hiring a football guy at the top. Bruce Allen is not the answer but Gruden has not coached any position especially QB which is his sweet spot up. Forget they were not drafted by him. It was his job to coach them up but ultimately the position as a whole has regress!

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