Teammates say Johnny Manziel is a “nightmare” in practice

AP

The Bengals might be a bit size-ist when it comes to the debut of Johnny Manziel as a starter Sunday, but his own teammates know he can create big problems.

In practice, at least.

Browns safety Donte Whitner told Albert Breer of the NFL Network that Manziel was a “nightmare” to practice against because of his ability to improvise.

You see him being Johnny Football,” Whitner said. “You don’t see him trying to duplicate anybody’s quarterbacking style, just sitting in the pocket.

“If something’s not right, you see him using his instincts and his intangibles, breaking the pocket. That’s where I can see growth.”

The Browns are doing everything they can to make Manziel comfortable in the starting role.

The fact they’re trading on the element of surprise — and that Browns offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan had success with a similarly skilled rookie in Washington when he coached Robert Griffin III — gives the Browns an element of hope this weekend.

“I think he’s got enough,” wide receiver Josh Gordon said. “He’s got what we need right now to move forward and pull off these last three wins.

“He’s willing to do anything, extend a play, and make something out of nothing. That mindset isn’t in everybody. A lot of guys will quit, take a sack or throw the ball away. That’s not what he does.”

And that’s why we’ll all be tuning in on Sunday.

159 responses to “Teammates say Johnny Manziel is a “nightmare” in practice

  1. “He’s willing to do anything, extend a play, and make something out of nothing. That mindset isn’t in everybody. A lot of guys will quit, take a sack or throw the ball away. That’s not what he does.”

    ~~~~

    That’s also what will lead to some untimely turnovers that will help keep the Browns from putting away teams when they should or even cost them games at times. Don’t act like we haven’t all seen this plenty of times before. Risk/reward guys tend to get looked at as if the risk isn’t there… until it is.

  2. Is it really a “nightmare” if your back up QB runs around with a red “don’t hit me” jersey on making a few plays in PRACTICE?

  3. Practice? ? Where the d line can’t touch or taunt you… where place kickers make 75 to 60 yard field goals lmao…. too bad noone practicing on Sunday.

  4. To clear the record, pftpoet is actually a Packer fan that posts as a viking fan. Please ignore all posts.

    Signed,
    A true Viking Fan

    P. S. Johnny looks exciting!

  5. The same could be said of Kaepernick when he first started playing. Now that teams know how to defend him, he’s worse than mediocre. I’m not sure if Manziel will have the same issues or not because he’s probably a better passer but I’m not sure. Still, it should at least be interesting as long as someone doesn’t knock his head off when he’s running.

  6. So if his first read is covered he panics and takes off running. Where have I seen that before.

  7. thepftpoet says:
    Dec 12, 2014 4:55 PM

    Meanwhile Teddy Bridgewater is by far the best QB from the draft.

    And Johnny Manziel will be a bust

    ————————————————-

    And you know this how?

    Manziel in his first drive ever, goes 8o ytds in under 3:00 minutes for 7 points that took Hoyer 29 dives to accomplish the same point total!

    Meanwhile, Teddy “tiny hands” Bridgewater is the 28th rated QB in the NFL.

    The real bust will be Bridgewater who may be the Geno Smith lite of the NFL!

  8. RG3 was good until he “improvised” and tried “to do anything, extend a play, and make something out of nothing” and Haloti Ngata destroyed his knee! Johnny Football will be fun to watch but I don’t think he’s got the smarts of Russell Wilson to know when to not take the big hit…and he’ll get rocked playing in the AFC North!

  9. He might be nightmare in practice because those defensive guys can’t hit him.

    Wait ’til he takes a couple of NFL hits that he wasn’t expecting.

    Hello pocket passer.

  10. When all is said and done Jimmy Garappolo will probably end up being the best qb from this draft. A good three years or so studying under Brady and he’ll be ready to lead a team.

  11. So he can get all improvisational at practice. So what. Just put him in and wait until a DE pits him like an olive, something they don’t allow at practice. I for one look forward to the end of the name Johnny Football and all his childish behavior. I’ve never been this sick of someone that’s never even started a game.

  12. Anyone can run around and improvise when you’re wearing the QB practice ‘touch and you’re screwed’ jersey.

    Let’s see how he does it against real competition.

  13. knucklehead93 says:
    Dec 12, 2014 5:03 PM
    To clear the record, pftpoet is actually a Packer fan that posts as a viking fan. Please ignore all posts.

    Signed,
    A true Viking Fan
    =========================================
    pftpoet a Packer fan ???? Hardly !
    The slug is a ViQueen Troll. Yes ViQueen fans, he’s a reflection of Minnesota. Embarrassing, isn’t it ?

  14. It’ll be interesting to watch. But all his amazing college plays were THAT CLOSE to being a negative play where he just barely escaped a rusher or his pass was just out of the reach of the defender. Playing at a higher level where every defender is faster and ever scheme is harder to read I don’t have a lot of confidence he’s going to duplicate what he did in college. If he succeeds he’s going to need to read defenses and run the plays that are sent in. He will not be able to improvise his way through the NFL.

  15. dawgzzxx says:
    Dec 12, 2014 5:03 PM
    Gosh, thepftpoet, YOU ARE SUCH A TOOL IT’S HARD TO BELIEVE. WoW.
    ========================================

    You’re much kinder than I would be, but well said.

    Go Browns!!!

  16. Why did Hoyer only play three games last year? Oh that’s right, he scrambled to extend a play and got his knee taken out by Buffalo.
    But that can’t happen to Johnny, right?

  17. Im sure there’s plenty of money in the pool on how many quarters Manziel plays until his first major injury. I think he’s reckless like RG3 rather than judicious like Russell Wilson. You know most people are watching for the same reason people watch Nascar – they’re waiting for the big crash.

  18. Anyone who lists Johnny in the same universe as Tebo shows that they have ZERO football IQ. Johnny is going to make all of you look silly.

    Hate away losers!

  19. Once he gets manhandled by NFL sized line backers it will instill the fear of death in the boy to which he’ll end up just like RGIII….one read trick pony that’s quick to run and hit a wall.

  20. >>” Kyle Shanahan had success with a similarly skilled rookie in Washington when he coached Robert Griffin III “<<

    If Manziel works out for the Browns, can you see them making a deal for Griffin as a backup?

  21. This is a calamity waiting to happen. The good thing is that players on the opposing defense may not know what he will do; the bad thing is that his own team’s players will not know what he will do.

    The NLF spends thousands of hours in film study designing plays and instilling discipline to get an idea what will happen. That predictability is required in order to plan and put everyone on the same page.

    Having a QB run around in the back field and toss up jumpballs is way too unpredictable to set a sustainable precedent. Gordon has the skills to outplay many DBs, but he’s not like Mike Evans against tiny college DBs.

    The Bengals will invite Johnny to throw, we’ll see how that goes.

  22. I see a 3 INT kinda afternoon, mixed in with some spectacular escapability plays where he heaves it 40 yards down field for a touchdown.
    I think it will be a mixed bag.

  23. “Meanwhile Teddy Bridgewater is by far the best QB from the draft. And Johnny Manziel will be a bust.”

    More than 100 people thumbs-up’d that comment. Seriously.

  24. I’m So tired of hear bout Johnny Manziel but I do feel like they Should Wait till 2015 and let him start off playing Why bring him and play him when you got 1 feet in da playoff pictures let the QB play that got you there then Again they should had run plays for both QB I think they would had do a great Job at playing both of them together

  25. For the sake of you Browns fans, I sincerely hope Manziel plays well. He doesn’t have to win, all he really has to do is put up some decent numbers, and keep the mistakes to a minimum. The Browns and their fans have taken a lot of heat for drafting him, so I hope it eventually pays off for you guys. How about you guys just win so it will shut the freakin’ haters up–at least for a little while.

    ~a Chargers fan.

  26. Everyone loves to talk about JF’s TD drive but I also remember him lying dead in his own endzone while his fumbled football bounced around freely.

    He’s gonna get killed unfortunately which is a shame since it’ll make the Browns interesting to watch while he’s alive.

  27. Bridgewater the best rookie QB ? I guess you haven’t seen Derek Carr play yet. Carr is the best rookie QB by far. It’s not even close. Carr would love to have a receiver like cordarrelle Patterson. 5 years from now I would bet Derek Carr is is going to the pro bowl for the 3rd time and Bridgewater will be Lucy to have a backup role.

  28. .
    “He’s willing to do anything, extend a play, and make something out of nothing. That mindset isn’t in everybody. A lot of guys will quit, take a sack or throw the ball away. That’s not what he does.”
    .
    Well Sanchez did the same thing till he got face to face yelled at… dont recall him diving for first downs etc eh… getting yelled at to slide…

    I believe RGIII did it also but he has bum knees

  29. A good three years or so studying under Brady and he’ll be ready to lead a team

    That team might well be the Patriots.

    Love Brady, but if he’s mediocre at 40 Belichick won’t wait too long.

  30. There sure are some strong opinions and feelings about this kid who hasn’t even started an NFL game yet. I think the kid has skills, and a great desire. And I am hopeful he will be successful. I sure don’t hope someone stomps him into the ground. Not sure what he has done to generate that kind of hate from someone.

  31. He will be great….maybe even win a few games…UNTIL some defensive monster breaks him into pieces. These mobile guys are great in high school and college, but they won’t fly in the big leagues. NFL DC’s have their number!!!

  32. For the folks who say Johnny won’t be to handle being hit by pro defenders: 9 Alabama defenders from the 2012 team (which Manziel shredded as a freshman) have been drafted into the NFL. I’m pretty sure Moseley and Clinton-Dix, amongs others, know how to hit.

  33. Lets be clear. Bob Griffin did not improvise well. In fact when he tried the play usually did not end well. He is not a scrambler. However he was a great straight ahead option QB. Never did well trying to make something happen on either side of the line unless it meant he could run straight ahead. As someone mentioned before, he resembles a baby giraffe when he’s scrambling out of the pocket.

  34. I don’t like the read option in professional football. Eventually every team will be forced to use it because the NCAA refuses to develop passing quarterbacks. The NFL is going back to when nobody bothered to go to games and watch.

    Professional football finally gained traction as a mainstream form of entertainment when quarterbacks started tossing the football. Now, a bunch of bandwagon fans think this “new” style of offense is exciting. Well, it isn’t new and it isn’t exciting.

    The NFL better think about their product before the life long fan quits watching and the bandwagon fan gets bored and starts watching competitive mitten knitting or whatever some other losers turn into the flavor of the week.

  35. knucklehead93 says:
    Dec 12, 2014 5:03 PM
    To clear the record, pftpoet is actually a Packer fan that posts as a viking fan. Please ignore all posts.

    Signed,
    A true Viking Fan
    ——————————–
    That guy that laughed about Rodger’s injury last year is now all of a sudden a Packer fan posing as a viking fan?

    smh… wee-nug.

  36. If Vick, Cam, and RG3 have taught us anything it’s that once defenses get game tape on a mobile QB, the jig is up.

    But until then, weeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEE!

    STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THIS IS A RACIAL COMMENT.

  37. If I want a guy to improvise then I want TEBOW!

    Bigger and more durable and an all-around great leader and good guy. Give him a call when Johnny cracks a collarbone on the first drive or gets high in a public washroom.

  38. Can’t wait to see what Johhny can do on Sunday. But as far as Gordon’s comments go, screw this guy and what he has to say. He quits on plays and is a total ME GUY so far. Hope he can grow up soon and not get suspended for his fifth year in a row.

  39. Manziel will be a very good QB, just as good as Luck is. We may not see it this season, but next season watch out! The Browns by far had the best draft last year… They picked up some valuable picks through trades that will ultimately put their team back to relevancy.

  40. touchdownroddywhite says:
    Dec 12, 2014 4:57 PM
    “He’s willing to do anything, extend a play, and make something out of nothing. That mindset isn’t in everybody. A lot of guys will quit, take a sack or throw the ball away. That’s not what he does.”

    ~~~~

    That’s also what will lead to some untimely turnovers that will help keep the Browns from putting away teams when they should or even cost them games at times. Don’t act like we haven’t all seen this plenty of times before. Risk/reward guys tend to get looked at as if the risk isn’t there… until it is.

    ——-

    You’re right, we have seen this before. Sounds exactly like people used to describe Brett Favre.

  41. A couple big hits and he’ll be hanging out with Bob Griffin at the rehab center while someone takes his place on the roster. Just not big enough to be a mobile QB in the league.

    Look at McNabb, he had 20-30 lbs on guys like Manziel and Griffin and its the only reason he survived those first few seasons when he was running around.

  42. That whole “run around in circles and make something happen” style only works for a few games.
    Once defenses have his tendencies on film, it usually becomes a question of how long he’ll be in the league without learning the quarterback position.
    It’s happened over and over recently, and it’s about to happen again.
    Really? Does nobody in the NFL pay attention?

  43. And what do you think a team mate would say? He sucks? we have seen a lot of teams fall apart when you start belittling teammates.

  44. nomoreseasontix says:
    Dec 12, 2014 8:34 PM
    That whole “run around in circles and make something happen” style only works for a few games.

    ===

    How many games did it work for Brett Favre? Russell Wilson? Steve Young? Fran Tarkenton? Roger Staubach? Archie Manning?

  45. Oh, he meant “nightmare” in a good way for the Browns.

    It doesn’t matter too much. It’s just the bungles, the perfect game to break him in.

    Hey, the worse that can happen is they call in Hoyer, and Hoyer “owns” the bungles.

  46. Its funny the idiots that don’t know anything about preparing a defense for the next opponent. Its called the scout team. The better look you get from scout team the better prepared the def is for opponent. JF must be doing a great job because the D has been playing lights out. You bunch of idiots!

  47. Still reminds me of Doug Flutie.

    He has two “moves” already perfected.

    His “money” celebration after a TD

    and his

    “I am dead” move done during a play which should have been a TD for the other team.

    Which move will we see more?

    I predict some wow plays
    lots of sacks
    1 running TD
    3 picks
    and 2 really dumb plays (beside the pick)

    He is a rookie playing his first game.
    I expect his next game will be worse, once people have tape.

    (Same with Teddy. His first starting game was pretty gone and then folks got tape. Now he is rebounding and doing OK considering the rest of the O)

    I don’t hate JJF in fact I think he has grown up a bit. After the season started he himself has not been a distraction.

  48. He can run and he can throw… But the big boys will catch him, bust him up and he will be sitting on sideline with back or leg problems…

    Another bust… Now do the “finger rub”…!!

  49. Lol. Tebow comparisons? Lol. Tebow couldnt hit water if he fell out of a boat just like Brian Hoyer. Those 2 have the passing accuracy of a pop warner QB, when every play was a running play, because no one could throw the ball. Thats Hoyer n Tebow.

    Hope Johnny is running out of bounds and fires a midget pass right in Marvin Lewis’ ear.

    Johnny will do just fine. Im more worried about the Browns D getting toasted, since Phil Taylor wont be able to stop the running game.

  50. And after the league spent a LOT of effort effectively figuring out how to defend Kaepernick, RGIII, Michael Vick, and Cam Newton (at least until he became more of a pocket passer), does anyone really think Manziel is going to be that much of a surprise? I guess we’ll see.

  51. thepftpoet says:
    Dec 12, 2014 4:55 PM

    Meanwhile Teddy Bridgewater is by far the best QB from the draft.

    And Johnny Manziel will be a bust.

    ————————-

    I’ve never seen over 1000 thumbs down on a comment before. You’re special.

  52. Manziel must’ve caused quite a few people to lose money in college. I’ve never met the guy. He hasn’t done anything for me to love or hate him. It was cool to see him beat Bama, but that was just to see a coworker shut up for a week about the Tide. I’m puzzled at the personal disdain for a guy who for the football season has run the practice squad. I read up on his off the field escapades and aside from his fake ID fun when he was 19,I didn’t see anything that would cause the end of society. Then again,it’s way easier to hate something than it is to like it. I don’t think he’s anymore obnoxious than Aaron Rodgers doing his Championship Belt routine or Gronkowski hyper-spiking the ball.Personally, I’d like to see him play for a full game, to see if he can play at NFL speed full-time.

  53. in three years he will be Johhny pizza delivery boy. his game and act wont work in the NFL. he may do well for a few games, but once coaches get tape on him, he will be shut down if not injured. hate to see Cleveland fan get his hopes up all over again only to be dashed.

  54. enjoy your 5 games clevelend!! cause that’s about the time the NFL goons will give him running before they start breaking legs. Actually, I give him 2 games – tops. Running QB’s never learn!!!

  55. “He’s practicing against the Browns defense.
    Nuff said.”

    How many TD’s did your teams D score last week? Browns D scored 2!

  56. If you’re a Johnny Manziel (doubter or hater), just go on-line and watch his Texas A&M game highlights…….and be AMAZED!

    In only (2) yrs. @ A&M, Johnny passed for (63) TDs and rushed for (30) TDs.

    Do NFL or Browns’ fans realize……that the Great Jim Brown played (3) yrs. @ Syracuse and he rushed for (21) TDs….vs. (30) rushing TDs that Manizel ran for. And just recently, Jim Brown was asked about Manziel…and he said “When Johnny gets his opportunities, he’s going to be a Star in the NFL”.

    JM has been lighting up the scoreboard since his 1st yr. in HS…routinely scoring 5-6 TDs per game (passing & rushing)…even rushed for (8) TDs in one game!

    Reading some fans’ comments that once NFL teams have tape on Manziel, he’ll be a bust. Well, they ALREADY have tape on him…they have 2 yrs. of Texas A&M tape on him. Doubt it will help Defensive Coaches much…..go ask Alabama Head Coach Nick Saban – he never did have an answer for defending Johnny Manziel. A&M lost the 2nd yr. (by 7 pts.), but Johnny passed for (5) TDs for over 500 passing yards.
    And just an FYI…Alabama’s roster has over 24 players who are over 300 lbs., so yes, Manziel has gone up against some HUGE guys…and JM has never missed a single game due to an injury……..Hoyer can’t say that NOR can Sam Bradford, Cam Newton, Clowney, Tony Romo, the starting Center for the Browns, etc., etc.

    IMO…….Johnny is just what the NFL needs!

  57. For all you high, and I do mean high, football I.Q. guys. It has nothing to do with D coordinators figuring them out once they’ve seen some tape. It’s pure physics. You put a Ferrari, a mobile QB, in a smash up derby, a professional football game, you’re not going to like the result unless there is an end point that’s not the last man standing. A Ferrari wants to run in clean air and looks good doing so. A smash up derby is all about crippling the other competitors. Professional football has the biggest, strongest, fastest athletes, so when the mobile QB gets to that level their mobility is marginalized and everything else an NFL QB needs to succeed better be there in spades or you get whats happened to some of them.

  58. thepftpoet says:
    Dec 12, 2014 4:55 PM

    Meanwhile Teddy Bridgewater is by far the best QB from the draft.

    And Johnny Manziel will be a bust.
    ==================================

    I’m still wondering why a vikings fan cares so much about a Browns QB. It’s almost as if he’s trying to convince himself that his team made the right pick. He’s been posting the same crap ever since the draft.

  59. We’ll see, some times that stuff works, some times it doesn’t. It WILL put pressure on the opponent’s defense, at least for a while. Once DC’s DO get film on his tendencies, the surprise factor is gone.

  60. jacksrants says:
    Dec 12, 2014 6:42 PM
    Bridgewater the best rookie QB ? I guess you haven’t seen Derek Carr play yet. Carr is the best rookie QB by far. It’s not even close. Carr would love to have a receiver like cordarrelle Patterson.
    _______

    Nothing against Carr, who is showing a lot of promise too, but clearly you haven’t been watching Bridgewater at all. Patterson has been benched because he still can’t figure out how to run a route. Teddy’s #1 WR target is a guy who started the year on Cleveland’s practice squad.

  61. 4thquartermagic says: Dec 12, 2014 4:58 PM

    If Vick, Cam, and RG3 have taught us anything it’s that once defenses get game tape on a mobile QB, the jig is up.

    But until then, weeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEE!
    ==============================

    If Steve Young, Steve McNair, and Russell Wilson taught us anything, it’s that you’re incorrect. A good QB will succeed even if he’s “mobile”.

  62. “A lot of guys will quit, take a sack or throw the ball away. That’s not what he does.”

    At least hypothetically, since he’s never started nor played a single full NFL game.

  63. It’s late in the season.
    Something shiny is about to show up.

    I’m all about it. Go Johnny Whatever-you-want to call-him.

    I live an hour from Detroit, and about two hours from Cleveland.

    I’ve grown up with both as my local TV football on Sundays.

    (Which is why I’m a Packer fan)

    This year there has been meaningful (notice I didn’t say good) football on my television almost every week.

    Damn right Johnny “Speaks in Third Person” Football is must watch TV.

    Whether he fails or lights the world on fire it’s must see.

    Can’t wait.

  64. people need to relax if he does do well. teams adjust. once they get enough PRO Tape on the kid, we will see. running QB’s seem to start hot until they get figured out.

    he will be figured out, and then will start taking hits, and have to change his game. he can’t just be wild johnny football in today’s nfl, there are nose tackles who run near his 40. dude has alex smith speed, he is not a 4.4 guy.

  65. It’s nice to see how excellent Johnny was against the Bills. He will only get better with continued practice and experience. The haters will be haters and always will be, here’s to watching them choke on their words as Johnny progresses. As far as Teddy Bridgewater, isn’t he a rookie like Johnny ??? In 1998 Peyton Manning’s rookie season he was 3-13 with 26 TD’s and 28 Interceptions ! Where are his hater’s now ??? In no way am I saying Johnny or Teddy are the next Peyton Manning but you know what ? Somewhere along the line, someone was smart enough and patient enough to allow Peyton to develop !!! “A rookie is , as a rookie does.” In other words, absolutely nothing until he gets a “clue” with repetition and can take off or torpedo and I prefer to wait and see what the man does on the field other than pre-judge. Let’s enjoy the game ! ( I remember the first NFL game I ever watched too. Geezus)

  66. So if Johnny does well are you morons going to continue to run your annoying mouths. In college he was twice the playmaker than all of the QB’s that you’re mentioning. And his football IQ is ten fold of those mental midgets Tebow,Vick and RG3.
    . But I suppose that I could be eating ny words as well. But maybe some of you should just stop regurgitating what your local sports talk idiot’s are saying or what the uptight ducks on ESPN SAY. Get an original thought for once you SHEEP. and maybe wait til the guy plays a whole game before condemning him and his style.

  67. I am a Pats fan. I watch every pats game I can. However if I had the option of watching Johnny football on a sunday Id like to see what this kid has. Does he look downfield like Wilson, or is he going to take off and run like RGIII. Wilson reminds me of a Steve Young type of QB. Seen good Qb fall in drafts. Aaron Rodgers went 24th he was expected to go higher. Alot where surprised Manziel wasnt a top 10. I think he be fun to watch.

  68. The description of Johnny Manziel reminds me of Brett Favre. Desperate underhand lobs as he was being tackled for a loss. Smiling as he got up at the guy who took him down viciously. “Is that all you got”? Johnny is a lot smaller it appears. How much punishment can he take from the NFL beef?

  69. trevornunn2001 says:
    Dec 12, 2014 6:24 PM
    I’m So tired of hear bout Johnny Manziel but I do feel like they Should Wait till 2015 and let him start off playing Why bring him and play him when you got 1 feet in da playoff pictures let the QB play that got you there then Again they should had run plays for both QB I think they would had do a great Job at playing both of them together
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    School go back to make coherent sentences learn to….Christ

  70. I hope Manziel does well because i don’t think the Browns will be able to go back to Hoyer again.Plus if the Browns lose to the Bengals their hopes of winning the division are probably gone and their chances of making the playoffs might be over too.

  71. You would think the ongoing implosion of RGMe’s career would be ringing a fire alarm for the Browns. Extra mobile QB who rely too much on improvising instead of honing their all around skills still end up fading away in the pro game due to their improvising getting them hurt and or causing erratic results that give teams no choice but to move on. Wilson runs, but Wilson also runs on because the play actually calls for him to run. His first reaction when the play is a called pass is to read the defense to see if the pass is there and only run if it isn’t. Guys like Johnny Football and RGMe don’t put in enough effort learning the real art of QBing because they’ll quickly run on every play simply because they believe their athleticism is answer. That’s a great plan in college and an awful one in the pros where there are eleven athletes at, above or at least close to your level on every snap of the ball playing defense.

  72. And that’s what will make him one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. Flip side of the coin is that the NFL still isn’t ready for that type of quarterback because they are harder on them when they make mistakes as opposed the boring take a sake throw to the sideline quarterbacks of the day. He could change football as we know it & make it WAY more exciting than it is now. I’m a basketball first football second fan. But if quarterbacks added a little more improvisation and actually executed plays to the ‘T’ then we wouldn’t be having this conversation. It would be why more quarterbacks don’t play with this type of excitement. And the only reason why they’re not now, is because teams aren’t quite sold on it. Take Michael Vick for instance. Although, I truly believe that if he hadn’t be incarcerated he would have found his niche and truly make this style of play more acceptable. You see…if you try something innovative in football and it doesn’t work, then you’re a pariah. Never giving credit to the genius under pressure that the quarterback displayed. But if he execute it on a nightly basis, then he can’t do no wrong. Football analysts need to stop that. Skip and Stephen A. Give way to the possibility that maybe his team couldn’t keep up with his football IQ. After all they are the quarterback. They start the plays, everyone else should back them up accordingly. I’m just saying that some fans are tired of the ‘monotony’ of the usual quarterback plans. They oughta play unsanctioned football to get in touch with their inner child. Maybe they’ll unwind a little lol

  73. johnnyheisman says:
    Dec 12, 2014 5:55 PM

    Anyone who lists Johnny in the same universe as Tebo shows that they have ZERO football IQ. Johnny is going to make all of you look silly.

    Hate away losers!
    ——————-

    Is that you Johnny Manziel?

  74. Johnny football time is upon us. He has been marketed as another qb messiah. Many have drunk the kook aid, purchased the jersey and gone all in with their football hopes and dreams.

  75. I think Johnny will be hurt sooner than later. His size and attitude will make him an easy target

  76. We shall see about “The Nightmare In Practice” on the field. I just don’t see him capable of being this super leader that will lead any team to a NFL to a championship game. He will be more concerned about his social life then the work place. Oh he will do this and that and woo us but bottom line he is no Manning, Rodgers or Brady. Like the differences between night and day. So get your soda and popcorn out and watch “Johnny Football” It will be interesting to say the least.

  77. 1) Of course his teammates are going to talk him up. It’s typical propaganda/psyche move tactics. 2) Perhaps it’s not so much that Manziel’s a “nightmare” to defend against but rather that Cleveland’s defense sucks.

  78. I am excited to see Johnny Football tomorrow. Pretty sure everyone here is excited. Either excited to see him succeed and scramble all day or excited to see a linebacker square him up.

  79. All of you that love to hate Johnny Manziel will have a whole lot more to hate him for as he is going to have a successful career.

  80. Lol … what’s with all the hate?
    His first series in the NFL and he drives the team 80 yds for a TD. I’m not saying he great but all the losers like JaMarcus, Vince Young, Geno and RG3 got more love.

  81. The whole Browns team was terrible today. As usual, the QB has to take the brunt of the criticism. I didn’t see much blocking, tackling or intensity from the Browns as a whole. Coaching included.

  82. thepftpoet says: Dec 12, 2014 4:55 PM

    Meanwhile Teddy Bridgewater is by far the best QB from the draft.

    And Johnny Manziel will be a bust.
    —————————————————————
    Derek Carr is superior to Bridgewater…You can ask every GM or HC in NFL who they would rather have every single one would choose Carr..

  83. ummmm, well that didn’t go well.
    giggle.

    Poor Manziel…..getting mocked by the opposing team, and its only just beginning.

    (Popcorn time)

  84. Too bad his receivers suck. Saw them drop sure passes right in their hands for big plays and first downs. Wonder if the team is betting against themselves and pocketing big money.

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