Silent Stan shakes up St. Louis, L.A.

AP

It was believed at one point during the 2014 regular season that the NFL would move the opening of the window for relocation applications from January 1 to February 2 in order to prevent talk of a move to Los Angeles from undermining the focus on the postseason.  That became irrelevant once it became clear no one would be moving to L.A. in 2015.

And now, of course, the focus on the postseason has been undermined by talk of a move to Los Angeles.

News of Rams owner Stan Kroenke’s plan to build a new stadium on all that land he has been buying wasn’t leaked.  It was announced.

Yes, the man known as “Silent Stan” has broken his silent by dropping a bombshell on St. Louis and Los Angeles.  Unless Kroenke plans to own the stadium but not the team(s) that play in it, Kroenke will be trying to move the Rams to L.A.

It’s a gutsy move, since it’s not clear that the Rams will be able to satisfy the requirements of the league’s relocation policy.  But Silent Stan surely wouldn’t be silent no more if he didn’t know that he’ll have the support of the league office and the votes needed to get clearance to move come 2016.  Then there’s the fact that 2014 has become 2015 and St. Louis has not made a viable offer for a new stadium, despite indications in October and November that a proposal would be coming soon.

Then again, there’s a chance that Kroenke abruptly has opted to go all in after sitting quietly at the table with a giant stack of chips, announcing the plans to build a new stadium without a wink-nod understanding with the league or any other advance notice.  If so, Kroenke’s announcement could trigger more than a little drama among the league office and owners.

Regardless of whether folks did or didn’t know of Kroenke’s looming maneuver, the Chargers surely won’t be happy about news of an impending return by the Rams to L.A.  Unless, of course, the Chargers plan to announce soon that, if San Diego doesn’t make a move quickly to build a new stadium, the Chargers will be sharing the building with the Rams.

Which, of course, would leave the Raiders out in the cold.  Or in San Antonio.

26 responses to “Silent Stan shakes up St. Louis, L.A.

  1. go to SA!.. that Alamodome gets freakin’ loud.. 65,000 screaming Nation members(and yes, they are THE only nation) would be a great home field advantage.. do it Mark!

  2. “Then there’s the fact that 2014 has become 2015 and St. Louis has not made a viable offer for a new stadium”

    And why, pray tell, is a city’s public taxpayer money expected to pay for a billion dollar albatross stadium for a for-profit business venture owned by a multibillionaire? Kroenke isn’t entitled to a dime. That money should be going to schools, police, fire department, parks, and more.

  3. Unless the league wants another lawsuit, they will allow the Rams to return to LA. The Chargers move would make more sense, but their ownership has just dragged its feet way to long and now Kroenke beat them to the punch.

  4. muslimponder says:
    Jan 5, 2015 7:29 AM
    “Then there’s the fact that 2014 has become 2015 and St. Louis has not made a viable offer for a new stadium”

    And why, pray tell, is a city’s public taxpayer money expected to pay for a billion dollar albatross stadium for a for-profit business venture owned by a multibillionaire? Kroenke isn’t entitled to a dime. That money should be going to schools, police, fire department, parks, and more.
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    Kroenke may not be entitled to a dime, but St Louis fans may not be entitled to the Rams either. It cuts both ways. The city and state needs to decide the amount of investment they are willing to make to keep the Rams in St Louis.

    I suppose I have less of a problem with Kroenke than I do with other owners who move and get taxpayer money for a better situation. In this case, Kroenke has gone out of pocket to buy expensive land in LA and will build the stadium himself. That’s the way it should be done.

  5. This would make the Rams the second team St. Louis has lost – they’re like the Los Angeles of the Midwest.

  6. Or Stan could be building the stadium in the hopes that whomever eventually sets up house in LA will either buy him out (at a profit), become his tenant or maybe there would be a couple of soccer teams who’d like to set up shop there.

    The man didn’t become a billionaire by being stupid and playing it safe.

  7. Raider Nation? Child, please! If you take away the gang-bangers & fashionistas, all you have is a gaggle of old men recounting the glory days of the 70s/80s. That franchise is a dumpster fire!

  8. No way Jerrah will let a team go to San Antonio. That’s COWBOY country. Won’t happen. L.A. RAMS! Yes! Roman Gabriel, Deacon Jones, Merlin Olsen.. Etc. great memories.

  9. I think this makes my decision about renewing my Ram season tickets a little easier. By the way, is Stan still in violation of the league’s cross-ownership rules?

  10. The fact the LA lost 2 teams in the first place is hilarious. Already proved twice doesn’t matter the population size didn’t matter in support

  11. The Rams left L.A not because of the fans. The fans supported the team. They left because they didn’t want to pay for a new stadium for the owner. St. Louis had a new stadium and gave the owner a great deal so she moved them there. Quit blaming the fan support.

  12. Al Davis used the threat of a move to L.A. in order to extract a new stadium from Oakland. When that didn’t happen he decided he could make more money from the Coliseum.

    Georgia Frontiere owned an abysmal team that couldn’t draw flies, let alone fans. When St. Louis offered her a sweet deal (tax incentives and a luxury-box-equipped stadium built with other people’s money) she went home to the midwest.

    When Davis found out the taxpayers in L.A. weren’t going to fund a new stadium for him, and that there was no sentiment in altering the Coliseum to install luxury boxes, he went back to Oakland.

    There has been no NFL in L.A. for more than twenty years for several very good reasons, none of them having anything to do with a mistakenly perceived lack of fan support:

    1) Despite the trend in other cities of fleecing taxpayers in order to build new stadiums, the L.A. city council decided long ago that the very rich NFL could build its own stadium if it wanted to be in L.A. Most sane people agree that a federal tax exemption for the league is enough.

    2) There are numerous teams in the L.A. area that compete well and win championships. The NFL is just another option for people with money to attend games. Unlike other cities, L.A. fans could (and did) find many other teams to root for when the Rams and Raiders left.

    3) When the NFL left L.A. the idiotic local broadcast blackouts went with them. An NFL fan in L.A. could now see multiple games instead of perhaps one on any Sunday. This was well before the option of subscribing to Sunday Ticket.

    4) The L.A. area is host to many transplants from other areas of the country (50% of the population moved there from somewhere else). Building the kind of rabid fanbase that other cities have is much more difficult. Just before the Rams left virtually every one of their games in the Coliseum was the equivalent of a road game: Their poor play kept their own fans away, while the visiting team enjoyed the local L.A. support of fans native to the visitor’s city.

    The NFL will come back to L.A. some day, it’s just too big a market to ignore. The only mystery is why the league has shut itself out of all those profits for decades now, just because it doggedly insisted on a taxpayer-funded new stadium there. Saner business folks would have abandoned that strategy many years ago.

  13. if i was a rams season ticket holder, i would not renew my tickets….make them play in an empty stadium for the next two years.

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    slvrnblk72 says:Jan 5, 2015 7:25 AM

    go to SA!.. that Alamodome gets freakin’ loud.. 65,000 screaming Nation members(and yes, they are THE only nation) would be a great home field advantage.. do it Mark!

    First Off the alamodome doesnt hold 60k fans…2nd a rumor has flown in so cal That if chargers were to move that mark davis would wanna move to san diego since they have,such a large fanbase in san diego..it would also keep them in cali..the chargers will,not move to LA because that,would make them a,lameduck team with no fanbase as LA is raider territory and the,chargers would have,alienated their largest,fanbase in san diego. I hate typing on a phone…

  15. Stan is a cunning genius, it will be nice to have the Rams back in Southern Cal, and the true rivalry of the West Coast is the Rams -Niners.

    Welcome Back

  16. LA is Your Real Home….Rams…….If You Build a Winner…of any Sport…Least of all…What is arguably….the Most Popular……With LA’s….Sleeping Giant of Potential….The LA Rams Could Rival….the World’s Most Iconic NBA Brand……Come Back Home…The LA/Hollywood Sky is the Limit……..

  17. The single most important point of this article is that Kroenke announced, not leaked, his stadium project. In so doing he basically announced the move of the Rams back to LA, date tba, and didn’t care what St Loo or the NFL thought about it. St L will respond by staying away in droves, which plays into Kroenke’s hands if 11 other owners stall another year into the construction project by denying him his move next year, or this year if he can get his brothers in billions to see the light and the fact there is no point in wasting another year in what will now be a permanently empty stadium in St Loo while avoiding the riches awaiting Kroenke and the league in LA, damn the interminable footdragging in Oakland and San Diego which caused the current majority of owners to go along with the minority delaying forward progress.

  18. Of course Kroenke is going to TRY to sell season tickets, his alternative would be to tell everyone to keep their money.

    Just make sure you give an accurate address in case a refund is necessary if the NFL does an about-face and announces the games will be played in the Rams’s new temporary home, the Rose Bowl.

  19. Putting aside issues of EJD occupancy, etcetera, it (Rams “move” to LA) would make the NFCW…very Western, and hopefully, depending on the architectural brain-matter at work, get one more football team out of the dome doldrums.

    And the shades (Kroenke), look like AO Sun-vogue series, circa 1975. Replica? Cool eye-wear.

  20. Thanks to LA’s NFL savior Stan there will be no domed astroturfed stadium in sunny LA, which is what would have happened if the downtown joke of a stadium would have housed a team. One of the many reasons Stan chose to go another way is AEG and Phil Anschutz, the developers of the downtown site, DEMANDED as apart of their agreement with any NFL team moving in, to TAKE a slice of ownership out of the dumb owner so agreeing. Why that project never progressed. It would have housed RV shows 330 days a year, hence the astroturf and A/C dome.

    Thanks to Stan, it’s dead. Hooray, an owner with the brains not to give up part of his team to play in someone else’s crappy dome.

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