Jim Caldwell wants replay review on pass interference

AP

After his team was on the wrong end of a bad call on Sunday, Lions coach Jim Caldwell would like to see changes to the NFL’s instant replay rules.

Caldwell says penalties should be reviewable on instant replay, which would allow a coach like him to throw a challenge flag after a bad call like the one that happened Sunday when Cowboys linebacker Anthony Hitchens avoided a penalty when he held and interfered with Lions tight end Brandon Pettigrew.

“I do think in this day and age, with modern times where we have technology that can take out the human factor in certain key situations in big games, that we should use that technology to do so,” Caldwell said.

Patriots coach Bill Belichick has proposed allowing coaches to use their two challenges on any two plays they’d like, rather than limiting challenges to certain types of plays, like those involving possession of the ball, the sideline or the goal line. But Belichick’s proposal was voted down by the owners last year.

Perhaps a bad call like the one we saw on Sunday can convince the owners to change their minds. A bad call went against Caldwell’s team on Sunday, and he should have had the opportunity to ask the referee to use replay to get it right.

90 responses to “Jim Caldwell wants replay review on pass interference

  1. Of course it should be reviewable. These calls are just to big of game changers not to be able to review. It’s long overdue!

  2. This solution is so ridiculously simple: Everything is reviewable. All coaches challenges are reviewed in NYC. If a coach wins a review he gets to keep that challenge for that half, so if you have two challenges and you win your first challenge, you still have two for the half.

    And if you really want to get it right, make any foul found during a review that wasn’t called on the field, a penalty and enforce it as well (you know, like loudmouth WRs running out on the field with their helmets off screaming at the refs).

    This is NOT rocket science folks.

  3. Yeah, they can see that the ball was uncatchable since Bradfford threw the ball right at Hitchens back. They can see that Pettigrew grabbed Hitchens facemask making him unable to turn around and play the ball.

  4. They currently use replay for challenges relating to pass interference in the CFL. Great idea and works quite well. Totally agree the NFL should do the same thing.
    The Lions/Cowboy game was ruined by that BRUTAL call/no call. I guess the NFL has merged with DISNEY as it sure looked like Goofy was in charge of the officiating!

  5. Caldwell is California Dreamin’.

    While you can sympathize with him and his team being on the wrong end of a high stakes call (like so many others, btw) you’re asking for trouble if you open up judgment calls to review. Their subjectivity is why you have officials in the first place.

    What’s the next step then? Get rid of refs altogether? Have players and coaches make decisions on fouls and infractions? Not the solution. And second-guessing calls will only further slow down longer than ever games these days.

    The game just wasn’t…called well? *ducks*

  6. You know who else does? Barry Switzer, Cowboys coach in 1994. Deion Sanders completely assaulted Irvin on the sidelines, negating a sure TD that would have brought us back in the game. Instead, Switzer went crazy ran onto the field, bumped the official, got a 15 yard penalty. Game was over after that. It happens. Get over it.

  7. After listening to the debates and viewing the replay dozens of times relating to this play, what has been learned.
    1) the receivers jersey was being pulled as he ran down field with no flag
    2) the receiver placed his hand on the LB’s facemask with no flag
    3) the receiver was interferred with by the LB with a flag, but then no flag
    4) a player from the sidelines ran onto the field to complain about the call/no call, without his helmet on, with no flag

    Wow, and this is an elite team of officials from the NFL?

  8. Good gosh. Move on.

    One picked-up flag doesn’t explain a 24-6 run to finish the game.

    There were almost nine minutes left, and Detroit was ahead.

  9. How about your team giving the game to Dallas? Your lack of wanting to get a first down on a third and one, then a fourth and one from the Dallas 46? Maybe your tight ends coach can actually teach Pettigrew how to come back for the ball.

  10. the refs helped turn this game, but Detroit still could have won. with that said and the refs admitting as to that, the Cowboys are gonna be on the bad end of penalties this week. you watch how many iffy calls are made against them. the refs did a bad job and will be trying to look semi competent this week

  11. if the NFL gives in to this nonsense, before you know it the games will be 6 hours long with a ref conference every play… just like baseball

  12. Fans of teams Jim Caldwell coaches would also like a challenge per game. This would allow them to challenge any play where he should go for it but is too scared to pull the trigger. Oh wait, make that at least three challenges per game.

  13. What makes Caldwell think the officials on the field and in NY will do any better with replays of pass interference?
    Let’s face it, they are still going to screw it up, even if they replay them.
    Here’s my opinion. Go back to the way it was for about 60 years. Let the DB’s make contact with the WR’s until the ball is in the air.
    Playing DB in the NFL today is harder than any position other than QB now. All the rules have been made in favor of the offense, and no one is sure of what pass interference is anymore.
    I see games every weekend where the announcers will see a play live where interference is called, then will talk over the replay and try to justify what the official saw, even though it’s totally obvious the official was wrong. The announcer knows it’s wrong, too, but often they toe the line and give the benefit of the doubt to the official.
    The reality is, I don’t think anyone — including the officials — really understand what pass interference is any more. And that’s the problem. Because they’ve been told if they’re in doubt, throw the flag.
    So, think about it. You’re a back judge and you’re watching the secondary. You see a pass and the WR and DB are contacting one another. The easiest thing to do is keep your flag in your pocket. But no — you can’t do that because the NFL wants lots of scoring. So, you throw a flag and call pass interference or holding, even though you don’t really want to.
    You can see how that would intimidate you. It’s no wonder the officials are having such a tough time.
    To me, it’s similar to being a baseball home plate umpire, which I’ve done many times. You establish right away what you’re strike zone is and you don’t deviate from that the whole game. That way both teams know what it is and adjust accordingly. As long as you’re consistent, neither team has an advantage.
    It should be the same for the officials. The way it is now, the DB’s never know what they can and can’t do because it’s so inconsistent.
    So, even though Caldwell has a point, the fact is it won’t eliminate controversy.
    I keep going back to that Packers / Seahawks game a couple seasons ago where the Packers clearly intercepted a Hail Mary at the end of the game, yet the scab replacement official made the worst call ever and called it a touchdown. Everybody in the country saw that live and on replay and it was 100% positively an interception. The DB was cradling the ball in both arms against his chest and the WR had one hand on the ball, yet they ruled the WR caught it. And of course — the NFL supported their decision the next day. It was an absolute farce. Jon Gruden was so stunned, he was speechless.
    The only good thing was it got the scab officials out of the NFL.
    I’ve been watching the NFL since 1960, and this much I know. There was never this much controversy regarding pass interference until they started changing the rules to benefit the offense.

  14. So all anyone is talking about is the bad call in Big D, but since nobody cares, I guess, I haven’t heard anything about a number of awful calls going against Cincy that morning.

    Absolute ticky tack holds taking away big plays for Cincy, meanwhile indy’s punt team obviously tackling would be tacklers from behind. Bengals seemed to be the lesser team, but I never know how things would have shaken out had the calls been even.

  15. Why don’t we just move directly to the point where EVERY play is replayed in slo-mo so the refs can confer on what penalties to call after consulting Roger and Blandino? Man, I miss Pete Rozelle.

  16. The PI called on Cincy at the goal line was five times worse than the would-be PI flag “picked up” on Dallas.

  17. I agree they got the call wrong even though the Detroit player also had a bit of the face mask, but seriously if that rule comes in place you can make an argument their could be a challenge on ever passing play as their always grappling and fighting for position at any of the pass catching positions.

    It’s a tough call and I’m always for improving the game but to have that challenge in place is to much as the play could come into question every down.

    It’s like offensive holding….it happens ever play but their going to call the most obvious ones which are take downs. Can you imagine if they had challenged for pass interference, defensive holding, offensive holding… The Lions Cowboys game would still be in the 4th qtr right about now.

    This is football not two hand touch.

  18. More challenge-able plays for the coach who has a history or terrible challenges is not a good thing. Based on Caldwell’s history, he would’ve run out of challenges before the big PI play anyway.

  19. Perhaps he should also review his decision not to go for it on 4th and 1 inside Dallas territory before the penalty/shank punt.

    Bad coach: Carried to his record by the talent on his team and not much more.

  20. 1) Expand replay to more, or all plays.

    2) Eliminate the “challenge” system and adopt the college-style booth review upstairs for the whole game, not just the final 2 minutes.

    Coaches have enough to worry about without having to double check the work of the officiating crew.

  21. Possibly have PI reviewable upstairs if done inside of 2:00 before the half or end of a game.

    The only problem is it’s still a judgement call. The video would have to clearly show PI. And would only be reviewable if the penalty flag was thrown and the team that it went against challenged it.

  22. Obviously that picked-up flag was terrible, if not downright suspicious. But I have a question. Since that technically was not a flagged penalty, what exactly would there have been to challenge? Like, for example, let’s say Brandon Carr got flagged for PI on Golden Tate. That could be viewed on replay and challenged and potentially overturned. But how can you challenge a play that wasn’t flagged? Doesn’t that lead to a slippery slope? Like, what’s to prevent a coach from throwing the challenge flag on a huge deep pass and saying there was holding by the OL?

  23. Were the refs also responsible for the Lions only scoring three points in the entire half and letting the Cowboys put up seventeen unanswered points with that one call? No? Then you blew it, Caldwell.

    It’s okay if your entire team goes to sleep for two whole quarters, but the second a stripe gets involved it’s time to start bawling about “refball” so that you don’t have to look too closely at your own failures.

    But hell, why not let them replay every PI call. NFL games are already longer than MLB games with the constant commercial interruption after every play, so why not make them even longer?

  24. Will never happen, these games would last forever, stop whining about one call. Since it’s a judgment call, 99% would be upheld anyway, move on babies…

  25. Jim Caldwell’s biggest issue is not that the refs blew it, although they did….
    The real problem is the play call. 3rd & 1, 8:25 left 4th qtr, leading 20-17….RUN THE BALL!!!

    Never in that spot do you throw a long pass over the middle into double coverage to a TE….Never. That’s a QB sneak or HB dive up the gut. It’s one yard. Assert your will. Power Football….If you can’t take 1 yard from them, you aren’t good enough to win. Poor decision making cost them in that spot way more than the refs did.

  26. Belichick may be a dink personality wise to those of us watching him on tv, but when he talks about the game of football, X’s and O’s, etc he makes a lot of sense.

    Why you can’t challenge anything is beyond stupid. As BB proposed, don’t give additional challenge flags, just be able to challenge anything. Pass Interference is such a big one, can be a game changer, and could be a 50 yd spot penalty.

    BB made a lot of sense with the extra point too, what a boring play. That’s when everyone goes to the restroom, goes to get food, etc..

    As far as PI goes, use the College rule, I’m sick of 30+ yd PI calls going the wrong way

  27. To do that, you need the camera angles. This was a playoff game, so there were multiple angles of the play that showed the infraction. But for a Titans/Jags game in Week 7, CBS would only bring a minimum of cameras, depriving coaches of the angles needed to overturn a similar call.

    With replay as an officiating tool, a standard has to be set for all networks, all games to have the same number of cameras in the same locations for every game – pre-season, regular season, and post-season. Inexcusable for networks to happily run a handheld camera into the end zone to get “up close and personal” for a TD celebration, but not have opposite-side cameras to get a critical angle that would show the ball short-hopped the receiver diving to the ground for a catch… or to have fixed goal-line cameras for when a back breaks one but is caught at the pylon by a safety and no one can tell if the ball crossed the plane inbounds or not.

  28. Notice, however, that Caldwell didn’t say anything about unsportsmanlike conduct or unnecessary roughness being subject to review…

  29. His wish list should also include not being a pathetic wuss. 4th and 1 in a playoff game on the opponents side of the field and you punt? That lost the game as much as anything else…

  30. Horrible idea considering there’s some level of Def or Off PI on every single pass play.

  31. PLEASE!

    It looks like the Lions, unable to stomp anyone for a third week are just poor losers. There was 8 and a half minutes left, even if the call was made in the Lion’s favor it didn’t mean they would have won.

    Also, Pettigrew clearly yanked the face mask of the defender so the penalties may have offset anyway. The Lions are just that, the Lions and they are not a championship caliber football team.

  32. Lions fans want a say in going for a long pass to a non-existent TE on a key 3 and 1 when you aren’t planning on going for it on 4th.

    Detroit did nothing for 3.5 quarters. This one play was not the reason they lost.

  33. Actually, I’d like to see the ability to review anything. If you want to waste one of your two challenges saying “the right guard was holding” or “the defensive player that was being substituted still had the back half of his left heel in the field when the ball was snapped,” great! More power to you.

  34. the bad call was intentional to assure the cowboys would win the game that’s how the nfl fixed the game. boycott the nfl. there is no way I want to watch fixed games

  35. I had no dog in that fight, but if this play would have went to review, the best outcome for Detroit would have been off setting penalties. Stop making excuses. The real reason you lost is bc your pantie waste coach didn’t go for it on 4th and 1, letting Dallas drive 60 yards for a late TD, and fumbling the ball when the game was on the line.

  36. Great idea, CaldwellBot. Just what you need – another challenge to foul up.

    Go Lions.

  37. What good will replay do when days later you still get different opinions on whether it was a penalty or what foul occurred?

    You need umpire crews that have experience working together and communicating together. But that idea gets shot down right away by NFL. Figures.

  38. Being a Cowboys fan, and seeing the call (or lack there of) on Sunday, I agreee that there should be more instant replay to cover plays like that one. There were a lot of bad calls, or missed calls during the game, on both teams, that could (should) have warranted another look. Hopefully during the off-season, this can be worked out by the owners and the NFL itself.

  39. I watched the play over and over. No doubt, by any standards that Detroit was CHEATED. Bottom line, The receiver was contacted while the ball was on its way. Robbed, even if you can face guard.

  40. You need umpire crews that have experience working together and communicating together. But that idea gets shot down right away by NFL. Figures.
    ——————————————————–
    Not only that, the NFL really really needs to weed out the bad refs. Jerome Boger comes to mind. That guy shouldn’t be reffing my nephews pee-wee game. Yet somehow he keeps on popping up in NFL stadiums, screwing somebody.

  41. Who is the author and where did they get him? What call? A “non call” is not a call. The idea that has been kicked around, and it makes a lot of sense to a lot of us, is to allow coaches to use their challenges on calls and that is likely to be a rule that will be in effect next year. But it would have had no effect on the lions game because you are not going to be able to challenge a “non call” Its very likely that caldwell was responding to a general question about being allowed to challenge called penalties. But if he was commenting on being able to challenge non calls like that situation maybe he really is stupid and that is the reason he didn’t go for it on 4th and 1, a bigger reason why the lions didn’t win that game to name just one.

  42. Isn’t like Caldwell to chime in a day late on his opinion. Guy needs to work on getting away from his “deer in headlights look.”

  43. Ok now he’s just trying to deflect attention from the Lions performance in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th quarters, especially the play calling. No TDs and most importantly with the game on the line the Lions had 4th and 3 but couldn’t get it done.

    The Dallas offense converted on 4th and 6, for 21 YARDS! If I remember correctly they scored the go ahead TD on 3rd down and I hate to state the obvious but had Detroit held them to a FG attempt they would have been PLAYING TO WIN by a FG on their last drive.

    Yeah, that pass interference penalty that was reversed was bad. You don’t want the officials to impact the game but in the end both teams found themselves in the same position to win the ball game.

    The right team won.

  44. AND… Lions fans want an OFFENSE that performs up to it’s potential.

    Coach Caldwell should first focus on what HE controls.

    Botched call aside, the Lions offense failed miserably ALL second half. That’s a fact.

  45. This guy is a total buffoon. He has bigger issues than PI reviews. Your leading by 13 in the second half with a top 3 defense. Focus on how you ending losing that game. One blown call didn’t lose that game.

  46. I agree that pass interference should be reviewable, but I’m not certain that the call would’ve been changed. If anything the PI call would be dropped in favor of the holding which I thought was a no brainer.

  47. “The receiver was contacted while the ball was on its way. Robbed, even if you can face guard.”

    Yes because the receiver grabbed the face mask of the defender and pulled him into contact, as was clearly visible on the 2nd replay angle Fox showed.

    There was PI with the jersey pull earlier in the play, but these would have offsetting penalties.

  48. What’s real funny is you can tell most poster’s are Dallas haters, because no one really likes the Lions. I love this season so much, with all the PFT ranking them 23, everybody saying Romo will choke, 8-8, last in the div, worst defense. Now it’s, ok 2 a done, what drivel, “You can’t handle the truth” the team is good.

  49. Sure let them challenge all plays and in that situation watch Jason Garrett challenge the absence of the obvious Personal Foul level face mask.

    It is ridiculous that Lion’s fans, players, coaches, and any one else are complaining. There were missed calls on both sides, more to the point at the instant of the call in question, the Lions were ahead and managed to make error after error after that. I mean how can you blame the refs for a blown call without blaming Matt Stafford for fumbling and losing 2 fumbles on the same drive, or how the defense let the Cowboys walk them down the field and score on them like they weren’t there. How about that punter for the biggest punt of the season giving that great 10 yard punt, right after the coach let his team down by not going for it on 4th and 1.

    Yeah it is the Refs fault the Lions lost the game – please see the sarcasm.

  50. @sopadegato says:
    Jan 6, 2015 8:02 AM

    Were the refs also responsible for the Lions only scoring three points in the entire half and letting the Cowboys put up seventeen unanswered points with that one call? No? Then you blew it, Caldwell.

    It’s okay if your entire team goes to sleep for two whole quarters, but the second a stripe gets involved it’s time to start bawling about “refball” so that you don’t have to look too closely at your own failures.

    But hell, why not let them replay every PI call. NFL games are already longer than MLB games with the constant commercial interruption after every play, so why not make them even longer?
    =================================
    Why wasn’t Dez flagged?

  51. What good will replay do when days later you still get different opinions on whether it was a penalty or what foul occurred?
    =================

    There aren’t different opinions.

    There’s the NFL trying to cover an obvipus attempt to ensure an Ice Bowl Ii.

    There are Dallas fans trying to pretend they shouldn’t have been one and done AGAIN.

    And there are 98% of everyone else saying Detroit got hosed just as Seattle did vs. Steelers when the story of the day was to get the Bus a ring in Detroit.

    Let’s say it was only holding. First down Detroit. No punt.

    Tack on auto first and 15 yards unsportsman on Dez.

    Let’s say it wasn’t a penalty.

    Tack on auto first and 15 yards unsportsman on Dez.

    Let’s say it was offensive PI (which is complete BS).

    Tack on auto first and 15 yards unsportsman on Dez.

    Dead ball penalty gives Detroit 15 and new downs.

    END OF STORY.

  52. I agree 100% with Caldwell. They should review all the calls. Better yet, they should do 90% of the officiating from the booth. I can see the game more clearly from my couch than a man on the field without slow-motion cameras can. But even if they reviewed that call, the play would have stood. It wasn’t interference. But regardless, they should get the calls right, and if done properly, doesn’t have to slow down the game. They don’t need a coach to throw out the challenge flag. The refs in the booth can correct the call in two seconds (literally). The red flags and the on-field ref going to the sideline to take a look under the hood is what causes the delays. That’s just insane. Seen a college game lately? They correct calls all the time and it doesn’t slow down anything.

  53. The guy called it, because it was pass interference. That is the call. There were other calls available : Holding,illegal contact,Bryant on the field because he knew Dallas just lost the game. Review away.

  54. It’s not possible to do what he wants. Which penalty would he want reviewed? The PI, the Holding, the illegal contact, the hands to the face?

    What happens if he picks the wrong one? Do the officials ignore the penalties that happened just before the one he called. The hand to the face of the defender happened before the PI. Which do the officials call?

    Bad idea.

  55. I know college reviews every play but are penalties reviewable? The refs on the field do a bad enough job so will this really be any better? I think I’m more on the side of having full time officials who are held accountable more when they screw up. I also can’t wait to hear the Cowboys fans on here after Green Bay gets all the home cooking this weekend complaining about the refs.

  56. Simple answer NO!! Less review. Scoring plays and turnovers.

    And dbfan4ever says: God help us. At least yours is only an opinion.

  57. Regardless if you are Lions fan, Cowboys fan or just a fan of football. Those no calls were key to stopping a drive and changing momentum – which is key late in the game.

    Regardless of which of the 2 sides you want to whine about, the final infraction was indisputable and should’ve been called – even if the first 2 had been called and were offset.

    Offensive player Dez Bryant should have never come off the bench and argue with a ref (with his helmet off) about a call while the Cowboys defense was in the field.

    Unsportsmanlike conduct.
    15 yards.
    Automatic first down.
    Drive continues.

    There’s no argument against that. We all know players are not allowed to come of the bench on to the field, without their helmet and arguing with a ref for a play he was not involved in any way, shape or form.

  58. I know college reviews every play but are penalties reviewable? The refs on the field do a bad enough job so will this really be any better? I think I’m more on the side of having full time officials who are held accountable more when they screw up. I also can’t wait to hear the Cowboys fans on here after Green Bay gets all the home cooking this weekend complaining about the refs.
    ____________________________________

    I hope the Cowboys have a bad call go against them that breaks their momentum and costs them the game. Then we can remind them all of their comments about how they still had an opportunity to make plays to win the game and that they are sore losers, etc. Then they will show themselves to be the hypocrites that they really are.

  59. djscottyb says: Jan 6, 2015 11:26 AM

    Regardless if you are Lions fan, Cowboys fan or just a fan of football. Those no calls were key to stopping a drive and changing momentum – which is key late in the game.
    ——————————–

    No doubt in my mind that if that was Romo with 2 and a half minutes to go with a chance to win the game and he fumbled, he would have been blamed for everything and no one would be talking about that play. Everyone would have said, “Romo choked when his team needed him.”

    Only Detroit blames the ref for choking instead of their QB.

  60. Let’s not forget that the Cowboys also got the benefit of two 3rd down holding calls to keep their game winning TD drive alive.

  61. mrdry14 says:

    Let’s not forget that the Cowboys also got the benefit of two 3rd down holding calls to keep their game winning TD drive alive.
    ——————-
    But lets forget that Dallas had a TD taken off the board by a questionable holding call.

  62. josh8134 says:
    Jan 6, 2015 6:07 AM
    the defender never played the ball so therefore this is a PI

    _______________________________________ Kinda hard to turn around and play the ball when the T E has his fingers hooked in your facemask don’t ya think?

    By the way remember last week when Suhs suspension was lifted and the Lions fans were accusing everyone of crying and telling everyone to suck it?

    Yea, right back atcha.

  63. Officials got the call right. It wasn’t pass interference. Then if you want to call holding on the linebacker, then also call a personal foul for grabbing the face mask on Pettigrew. Ask Stafford to make a better throw. No need to review every play. That play was not the reason for the Lions losing. The was over 8 minutes to go in that game. And you still had the lead. You can’t score only 3 points in the 2nd half and allow the Cowboys to convert crucial 4th downs. Then when you have a 4&1, you scared. That’s not championship football. #NoBailOuts

  64. It sounds good in theory I don’t think we’d like the game that resulted from judgment calls being reviewable. They’d fix the occasional crazy-bad call but end up stopping play countless other times to either pointlessly review or randomly reverse calls where there was absolutely no definitive evidence either way. And absolutely nothing is worse than when the replay ruling is just as questionable as the original call. That totally undermines people’s confidence in the entire officiating system.

  65. Of course Caldwell wants replay and punt do overs and if either of those results don’t come out in his favor to be able to go for it on 4th down…. Twice. As long as the focus is on the penalty he doesn’t have to answer the play call question… Why pass on 3rd and 1 and not go for it on 4th and 1 after the missed HOLDING call which would’ve only been a 5 yard penalty. Lions could’ve gone 3 and out from that point, and miss a field just as easy as scoring the TD you all CREDIT them for on one stupid missed call. Jason Garrett said it best… When you are playing the Masters you don’t lay up… You go for it…

  66. You guys really want all plays reviewable even non called penalties? Any time someone scores a TD you could throw a flag for holding, or pass interference. That would be a disaster. OMG LOOK HE TOUCHED THE RECIEVER AFTER 5.3 YARDS!!!!! IT”S AS CLEAR AS DAY THROW THE FLAG!!!!!

  67. I’m curious as to what point you would review for pass interference, especially as it relates to the play from the this particular game. Do you go back to the point of the hold? If not the hold, then if the criteria for DPI is that the defender has to turn his head towards the ball then do you ignore the grabbing of the facemask?…which could theoretically prevent the defender from turning his head. And, if the refs would look for contact as criteria then aren’t they going to have to take into consideration that the offensive player initiates the bulk of the contact? I would really like to know how this play would have been judged via replay.

  68. Everyone needs to calm down about this. There is a montage on YouTube on all of the penalties that Detroit committed in this game that were not called . There was even a play where Suh ran onto the field without a helmet on. Get over it.

  69. and as a Lions die heart I would say credit the Cowboys coach for going for it on 4th and 6 and blame our coach for not going on 4th and 1 and we was running the ball well on them, run it on 3rd and 4th it’s called game management, when we lined up on 4th and 1 I though Caldwell was playing to win I was excited but if he had all that trust in the defense like he say he had why not go for it, Pete Carroll would have went because he’s “really” confident in his D and Dallas d-line not even top 15, so I can bear with Caldwell when he said that miss penalty was not the reason they lost

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