Pacman Jones ordered to pay $12.4M to shooting victims

AP

Bengals cornerback Adam “Pacman” Jones has been ordered to pay $12.4 million to the victims of a Las Vegas shooting after he lost an appeal before the Nevada Supreme Court.

Two doormen at a Las Vegas strip club sued Jones after they were shot during an incident in 2007. Jones didn’t pull the trigger, but a jury found he incited the melee at the strip club that precipitated the shooting.

The bulk of the $12.4 million will go to Tommy Urbanski, who was paralyzed in the shooting. Urbanski’s co-worker Aaron Cudworth was also shot and awarded damages from Jones, though Cudworth’s injuries were not as severe.

Jones’s lawyer, Lisa Rasmussen, has previously said that Jones cannot afford to pay the damages.

77 responses to “Pacman Jones ordered to pay $12.4M to shooting victims

  1. Message sent to all current NFL players: behave yourselves when you’re out in public, or stay home.

  2. Hopefully Pacman hasn’t squirreled away his money to protect his wealth from the damage he caused. Vick paid his debt – let’s see what Adam does.

  3. Whoa! He’s not got enough years left in his career to make good on that kinda cheese.

  4. I have no opinion of this guy but find it ridiculous he wasn’t behind the shooting yet is being the one targeted financially. This is a case where being a celebrity screws you over.

  5. Out of the $12.4 mill, lawyers get $12.399 mill and the victims will get the $1000 left over to split between themselves. How the system works

  6. Sufficed to say, it is a safe bet, one of the following choices (considering he doesn’t seem like the brightest of individuals):

    a. He doesn’t currently possess that amount of money.

    b. He will be completely broke, within one or two years, once his NFL career is over.

    Toss in another example, of ‘how multi-millionaire’ athletes go broke.

  7. The court either thought Jones’ net worth was more than $12 mil, or they just “judgemented” him into bankruptcy.

  8. Well another tough decision in the life of Adam “Pacman” Jones…

    1) Pay $12.4 million in restitution to the victims of the triple shooting incident he created during the NBA All Star weekend

    Or

    2) Pay another $2 million to one of his people to ensure that the victims jumps off a building and can not collect, just like what happened the lone witness who was unable to testify.

    Well look on the bright side. It’s not like Pacman Jones would ever beat woman, especially in public like at a bar or something.

    OH Wait…..

  9. @bookers

    But he didn’t do the crime. He made it rain with a hundred grand in one dollar bills since he just won it at the palms. Then the crowd, servers and guests dived for the cash. His entourage got into a fight with other guests as they were grabbing the dancers money. Bouncers kicked them all out. The shooting happened in the parking lot. 12.4 million send like big dough for a non gunman. Imo

  10. About time a “celebrity” is made to pay. Case upon case of these people getting off with a slap on the wrist based on their status, for once it backfires on them.

    Kudos to the judge, he/she deserves a promotion.

  11. $12.4 million? I feel bad for the victims, but that amount seems pretty excessive. Of course, the lawyers are probably taking half.

  12. Sleazy lawyers inciting stupid jurors to engage in some class envy by blaming “the rich guy”, even though he had next to nothing to do with the actual shooting.

    What a crock.

  13. This is a ridiculous ruling/amount. Only in the U.S. This is why health care and such things cost so much.

  14. fatsolio says:
    Jan 9, 2015 4:12 PM
    I have no opinion of this guy but find it ridiculous he wasn’t behind the shooting yet is being the one targeted financially. This is a case where being a celebrity screws you over.

    seatownballers says:
    Jan 9, 2015 4:33 PM
    @bookers

    But he didn’t do the crime. He made it rain with a hundred grand in one dollar bills since he just won it at the palms. Then the crowd, servers and guests dived for the cash. His entourage got into a fight with other guests as they were grabbing the dancers money. Bouncers kicked them all out. The shooting happened in the parking lot. 12.4 million send like big dough for a non gunman. Imo
    ========

    Let’s ignore the fact that the gunman was part of Jones’ entourage and that multiple witnesses said that he shot the place up at Jones’ request.

  15. He can’t bankrupt out of it. (For those saying he will) It is an intentional tort (I am assuming that was the finding) and you can’t bankrupt out of those. He is stuck with it.

  16. As long as you have talent, the league will find a roster spot for you. The owners really don’t care, just be on the field making plays making them more money.

  17. It’s sad that the victim will never see that money. Hell Tawana Brawley still has only paid 1% of what she’s due to pay and it’s been 15 years.

  18. If I were him, I’d just quit the NFL and get a normal job. Lets see them make him pay 12 million dollars then. Either the victims get stuck paying the bill for their attorneys or the attorney just provided free services and eat the cost.

    If they still make him pay a large portion of his salary, then get fired and get unemployment. Screw the system altogether.

  19. I think this was an episode on “When Keepin’ It Real Goes Wrong”. Honestly though, Nevada Supreme Court may as well be a kangaroo court if they are going to order someone to pay 12 million dollars when they didn’t shoot the victim. I am no fan of Adam Jones.

  20. I agree that Jones should pay some damages, but $12.4m when he wasn’t even the shooter seems way too high.

    I understand that no amount of money could possibly offset what the victims lost. I wish they could get $100 million – from the shooter. Jones couldn’t have predicted the shooter would shoot those victims. It’s one thing to seek justice and reparations. It’s another to squeeze a guy for the money because he is a high-paid athlete.

    Jones is partially liable for what happened, and he should pay something. I just don’t think he’s $12.4m liable.

    All of that aside, I hope that both of the victims can have some form of recovery, and live a good and happy life after what happened to them.

  21. I don’t like Jones, pretty much think the guy is a complete jackass. But if he didn’t shoot or suggest to shoot the 2 doormen, then he shouldn’t be held liable for that specific act. The person who pulled the trigger should be the sole person held responsible. He might be liable for other actions that he committed, but I have a hard time believing that his other actions of inciting fight equate to $12.4 Million liability…unless he personally permanently injured someone (description of events don’t suggest that). I don’t know the facts in the case but the description above suggests guilt by association….which is just wrong, irregardless of what any lawyer or court might say. The reason it’s bad is that many try to construe that same argument to mean that gun makers are liable for the deaths of those who die as a result of guns…if they didn’t make em’, them people wouldn’t die from them. Our liberal socialists / communists in this Country (Obama, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Mayor Bloomberg, exc…) would just love to see that happen, to overturn the 2nd Amendment ‘Right to Bear Arms’ by placing an insurmountable financial burden on the system to a point that exercising the right no longer is viable. I REALLY dislike arguing in favor of anything that helps Jones…but our civil liberties are more important than one dumbass’ court loss & expenses associated with it.

  22. Just stay out of Nevada and they can not touch his assets. If they try he can file bankruptcy and they will get nothing. Or he can settle it for pennies on the dollar.

  23. As big of a tool as Pacman used to act like this ruling is a farce. I hope the judge didn’t come up with that damage assessment.

  24. kerzondax says:
    Jan 9, 2015 5:10 PM

    He can’t bankrupt out of it. (For those saying he will) It is an intentional tort (I am assuming that was the finding) and you can’t bankrupt out of those. He is stuck with it.
    _________________________________

    I disagree. For it to be considered intentional, it must be “willful and malicious” as defined in the U.S. Supreme Court ruling in Kawaauhau v. Geiger.

    Although that was a malpractice case, it still applies. The crux of the ruling says that the injury had to be intentional, not the acts leading up to it. There is no way that throwing the money around was intended to lead to the causation of injury.

    I could not find any real reference to Jones ordering the shooting, and in fact, I found that the court said that the relationship between Edwards and Jones is unclear, so I can only assume that the jury could not have possibly ruled thusly.

  25. davikes says:
    Jan 9, 2015 5:05 PM
    Vick didn’t pay his financial debt. He declared bankruptcy, and vacated most of it.
    =========================================ssorry but you are completely wrong and it is easily fact checked. what is your basis for the statement?

  26. Wow, there’s a lot of support for Adam Jones in the comments here. Didn’t expect that.

    You guys realize he’s a reprehensible scumbag who was found liable in a court of law for paralyzing someone, right?

    “Oh he didn’t pull the trigger!!” That’s not how the law works.

    Whatever, not worth a second more of my time talking to fools who idolize a slimebag like “Pac”.

  27. Vick filed for chapter 11, which is a reorganization of debt, not a complete discharge of debt (chapter 7). He ultimately paid off $18M.

  28. Wocka-Wocka-Wocka. Bebururup. Guess Pacman just lost a life. Oh well, two to go. Maybe he can get some help from Ms. Pacman and Baby Pacman. I hear Centipede made some good money last year.

  29. Freakin lawyer’s… they’ll get 50% of the money off the top. Funny how they sued Pacman and not the actual shooters because the shooters were broke. Why is this even Mr. Jones’s fault? BTW… I’m not a fan of his by any means.

  30. Most of you defending Pacman Jones are morons who clearly haven’t read the facts of the case.
    That he was responsible for the shooting, directly OR indirectly, is pretty clear. As a result one of the victims, an innocent bystander working security that night, lost his ability to play with his freaking children, FOREVER, because he is now paralyzed by this completely unnecessary event. Yet you people feel sorry for Pacman Jones? My god our world really is screwed up and backwards.

  31. davikes says:Jan 9, 2015 5:05 PM

    Vick didn’t pay his financial debt. He declared bankruptcy, and vacated most of it.
    ———————————————————

    Vick did not have his debt vacated. He filed a Chapter 11 restructuring. He owed $18 Mil, and has almost all of it payed off. Just a couple weeks ago there were numerous articles on sports blogs regarding this. A simple google search would have confirmed this.

  32. This is the same guy that punched out that woman last year, he’s a total turd.

    Shame on you if you defend this guy.

  33. @Canyonero says:
    Jan 9, 2015 8:50 PM

    Wow, there’s a lot of support for Adam Jones in the comments here. Didn’t expect that.

    You guys realize he’s a reprehensible scumbag who was found liable in a court of law for paralyzing someone, right?

    “Oh he didn’t pull the trigger!!” That’s not how the law works.

    Whatever, not worth a second more of my time talking to fools who idolize a slimebag like “Pac”.
    __________________________________

    I am pretty sure that we all agree that it is really sad that someone was hurt & permanently paralyzed. However, most of the defense isn’t associated with “idolizing” Jones. The defense is about how the ruling applies to the interpretation of law & how it can be applied in the future toward a whole direction of legal rulings. The question becomes who is responsible for the cause of that effect. And I, for one, wholeheartedly believe that responsibility for malicious acts should NOT be applied backwards towards the causation of events. People making choices that then later result in injury caused by a separate act & individual is a level of liability that is just absurd! Based on that theory, a child who drops ice cream on the floor causing someone else to slip & hit their head on a table could be held liable. Also, the business that sold the ice cream to the child could be held liable for not knowing in advance & preventing the initial dropping of the ice cream by not selling a “potentially dangerous” product to an irresponsible individual. The whole thought process allows people to displace blame toward others rather than holding the people who are actually responsible…responsible for their own actions.

  34. Message to all rich people, stay away from bad situations. No matter if you are the one who causes the trouble or not, you’re going to pay. The victim will always go after the richest person in the crowd and accuse them of instigation and make them pay. BS. Jones got screwed on this. He didn’t shoot the guy. Go after the shooter. Oh wait, the shooter isn’t rich. Forgot.

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