Ray Lewis: We only know who Tom Brady is because of the tuck rule

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Ray Lewis believes the tuck rule is the only reason any of us knows who Tom Brady is.

Lewis told Stephen A. Smith on ESPN Radio that the Patriots getting the benefit of the infamous rule when Brady appeared to fumble in his first playoff start against the Raiders in January of 2002 is the reason he has a career today.

“When we — the first time we created something called a tuck rule, it’s the only reason we know — I’m just being honest — the only reason we know who Tom Brady is, because of a tuck rule,” Lewis said, via CBS Boston. “There’s no such thing as a tuck rule! If the ball is in your hand, and I knock it out your hand, whether it’s going backwards, forwards, lateral, sideways, however it’s coming out, that’s a freaking fumble! But guess what we created? We created a freaking tuck rule!”

Lewis noted that if the Patriots had lost that game to the Raiders, they wouldn’t have made it to the AFC Championship Game that year.

“They don’t go to that championship game — they don’t go to that championship game if that tuck rule, if that ball is not called a tuck! That’s a fumble!” Lewis said. “Charles Woodson made that man clearly fumble the ball and they named it the tuck rule, something that we’ve never heard in today’s game. So now you’ve got to ask yourself: When did the legacy really start?”

Well, yes, you could argue that Brady’s legacy really started with that tuck rule game. But even if you think that should have been a fumble, and that the Patriots should have been eliminated before Brady’s first Super Bowl, is that really the only reason we’ve heard of Tom Brady?

The tuck rule didn’t help the Patriots win the other two Super Bowls of Brady’s tenure as their starting quarterback. The tuck rule didn’t win Brady two regular-season MVP awards. The tuck rule didn’t make Brady lead the league in passing touchdowns three times or lead the league in passer rating and passing yards two other times. The tuck rule didn’t get Brady to nine Pro Bowls. Wouldn’t we have heard of Brady because of all those achievements, even if he hadn’t benefited from the tuck rule?

So it’s true that Brady’s reputation was built early in his career largely on the two postseason games the Patriots won after they beat the Raiders thanks to the tuck rule. But it’s ridiculous to suggest that the tuck rule is the only (or even the main) reason we know who Brady is. The tuck rule was 13 years ago. Brady has done pretty well for himself since then.

443 responses to “Ray Lewis: We only know who Tom Brady is because of the tuck rule

  1. Ray Lewis just spew’s nonsense. He only loves the sound of his own voice and getting away with murder. ESPN and other radio programs should be embarrassed to even have him on their program.

  2. Leave it to the most ignorant ex player to say something so stupid. this guy got away with being an accessory to murder.
    The emptiest can makes the most noise….

  3. So the other wins would not have happened if they didn’t get that win?They would not have won the SB 2 years later if they lost that game?

    Ray Lewis is an IDIOT.

    #whitesuitray

  4. Wow! This guy is still bitter? He must go to bed every night just thinking about Brady and patriots. Wow. Time to get over it man. If you lost by one play, you lost. You had a whole game to dominate. You didn’t. And let’s be honest. You would have lost bad next game even if you did win. But haha. Still on about this?

  5. So, if there was no tuck rule, the Panthers won Super Bowl XXVIII? Damn, NOW you tell me.

    Or better yet, how about we all GET OVER IT quit talking about 2001????????????????

  6. The tuck rule may not of helped them win another 2 Super Bowls, but spygate did. Funny how before spygate Belicheat was known as a defensive genius. Almost every year since the undefeated run (this year an exception), the Pats defense ranked in the 5 worst defenses consistently.

    I know there are gonna be people posting about the Ravens and criminals and Ray Lewis a criminal. Alfonzo Dennard gets a DUI while waiting his jail sentence for assaulting an officer, not to mention Pats signing Talib after he shot up the neighborhood. So lets just say the Pats are not saints either.

  7. We only know who Ray Lewis was because he was on trial for murder and acquitted like OJ. And because he’s a ‘look at me’ loud mouth.

  8. He makes it sound like the tuck rule was invented on the spot for Tom Brady in 2002 when in reality it had been around since 1999. But I agree it’s a terrible rule and I’m glad they removed it in 2013 (I think).

  9. “When we — the first time we created something called a tuck rule, it’s the only reason we know — I’m just being honest

    No White suit Ray you are not “just being honest ” you are ignorant

    We all know it was called earlier that same season in a game against the Jets.

  10. “Lewis noted that if the Patriots had lost that game to the Raiders, they wouldn’t have made it to the AFC Championship Game that year.”

    Well, no sh*t.

  11. It is incredibly difficult to dignify his comments with a response. I’ll try though. Hey Ray, where’s the white suit?

  12. Against the Patriots on Saturday, Flacco dropped the ball with both hands, and the refs called it an “incomplete pass” even though there had been no tuck attempt or even a passing motion to begin with. The Ravens did recover the obvious fumble, but the result of the “incompletion” call was that he got a very makeable 4th and 3, instead of 4th and 15. I guess what I’m trying to say is that Ray Lewis probably killed a guy.

  13. “The tuck rule didn’t help the Patriots win the other two Super Bowls of Brady’s tenure as their head coach.”

    Michael, Brady never won any Super Bowls during his tenure as Patriots head coach

  14. We wouldn’t know about him if he didn’t get away with murdering 2 people and destroying the suit.

    Does he realize the “tuck rule” was called AGAINST the Pats earlier that same year?

  15. Ray Lewis is hardly someone who should tie one event to a players entire career. If Ray Lewis doesn’t cover up a murder, he has no career either.

  16. He could have made a valid point about the Tuck rule and been correct, but he has to do that stupid “pay attention to me!!!” overstatement and now his credibility on this issue has been destroyed.

    If you said the exact above statement that I just wrote to Ray Lewis, a blank stare would appear on his face, and smoke would start coming out of his ears.

  17. Ray…Ray…Ray…the only reason anyone knows who you are is because you got away with, at the very least, being present at the scene of a murder, with the possibility of involvement…The ego on you Ray is incredible…Instead of talking about the tuck rule, talk about your missing white suit from that night…Stabby. If the tuck rule is the worst thing that ever came about, and because of that we all know Tom Brady (who’s going to the HOF by the way on his own merit)…at least nobody died because of it.

  18. Really Ray? REALLY? And here I was thinking it was his career full of consistently clutch play and large contribution to 3 super bowl wins. In fact when I think of Tom Brady one of the last things I think of is the tuck rule game. Since we are using that logic, I guess we can say “We wouldn’t know who Ray Lewis was if it wasn’t for the infamous missing white suit.” Fair enough, Ray?

    “It’s better to be silent and thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.”

  19. Yea, but Andrew Luck is going to change all of that this coming Sunday. People will become amazed as Luck will defeat Brady and then Aaron Rogers in the Super Bowl. Peyton who?

  20. Don’t hate the player, hate the rule. It’s like the Bryant no catch the other day. It’s the rule. I don’t understand why people act like the referee messed up. That was the rule.

    So that one play is the reason he has the success he has today? Hard to speculate the what ifs on how his career would have panned out how they not won that game and subsequently the Superbowl.

    It’s also hard to speculate how Ray Lewis’ career would be known as if he was in prison right now.

    I’d say being known in lore for a controversial yet correct ruling on the field is better than known for something well a little more controversial off the field.

  21. I’m not a Brady fan, but Come on Ray.

    Actually, we can do the same kind of statement with you. Replace “Tom brady” by “Ray Lewis” and “tuck rule” by “missing white suit”

  22. Old Ray Ray has said and done some pretty dumb things in the past, but this is about the dumbest thing he ever said. Please shut up and don’t remove the doubt that some still have in regard to your ignorance.

  23. 1) Softball to the Pats haters, so good job I guess.
    2) Ray Lewis is embarrassing. To himself, and ESPN (if that’s possible).
    3) Why would ANYONE listen to what Ray Lewis has to say? The man is a phony attention wh*re. We’re all dumber for having been subjected to him in any way.

  24. What an absolute moron. Have not watched ESPN since they hired this idiot! How they could hire this man is beyond me!

  25. I would rather get a root canal than listen to these two bounce hot takes off of each other. Stephen A. has no business possessing the platform he does and Ray certainly has no business being a first team analyst. Being a great player shouldn’t qualify you to be on TV. Emmitt Smith anyone?

  26. It’s a valid argument insofar as: Had they lost that game, would Bledsoe have gotten his starting job back the next season, relegating Brady to the bench? And if so, what then?

    The fact that it’s one of the more controversial figures in NFL history saying it I think makes it sound far more inflammatory than it actually is.

    Then again, maybe he knew exactly what he was saying and meant to throw a barb at an old rival on the heels of him playing a great game against his old team and sending them packing, and he’s just bitter and shooting off his mouth.

    Or both…?

    I can see it both ways, I guess. *shrug*

  27. I agree that it was a fumble, but it’s not as though Brady would have never had great success.

    Plus, look who he’s talking to. Smith is garbage, and Ray is lucky he had a chance for that last Super Bowl. He should have been watching it wearing an orange jumpsuit.

  28. I think what Ray meant was that if Brady had lost that game, maybe Drew Bledsoe starts the next year, and Brady goes back to the bench, never to be heard from again.

  29. hahaha!!!!! As a Patriots fan, I love this! First Don Shula’s comments, then Harbaugh’s whining, now Ray Lewis chiming in. Bring it on!!!! Patriots rule!!!!!

  30. Eliminate the tuck rule call, and the filming, and how many SB’s does Brady have? Probably none.

  31. Didn’t Ray Lewis introduce Brady when he was named NFL’s # 1 player a couple of years ago?

  32. awww, look at ray ray learning from his glorified internet troll colleagues so he can get his name in the press. bayless must be proud

  33. Tuck Rule. Spygate. 100’s of thousands of dollars in fines for cheating…. and then Goodell goes and “destroys” the evidence. I feel bad for Pats fans that need to turn their heads to that kind of unjustifiable taint which puts a big fat * on their team’s so-called “championships”.

  34. The bitter tears of a murder. Lolz.

    PFT is trolling for toll clicks posting this.

    How about Ray’s use of PEDs to get back healthy enough to play in the Super Bowl a couple years ago ? Nice of the league to whitewash that instead of suspending him for the game as they should have.

  35. It *is* reasonable to speculate that Brady would not have been the starter the following season had he fumbled and lost that game. If Bledsoe took back over, maybe we never hear about Brady again.

  36. This is like saying we only know who Ray Lewis is because of his involvement in the murder at the Super Bowl in Atlanta.

    I just don’t get it. Ray Lewis has gone out of his way in the past to praise Tom Brady and now he takes a random shot at Brady’s legacy? Seems pretty ignorant and random. Not sure what Ray was thinking.

  37. Don Shula: “Belicheat!”
    Rex Ryan: “We’re going to the playoffs!”
    Ray Lewis: “We only know who Tom Brady is because of the Tuck Rule!”
    .
    .
    .
    Bill Belichick: “We’re onto the AFC Championship Game”.

  38. I dont agree with him that because of the Tuck rule we know who Brady is. I’m not even a Pats fan but Brady has won 3 Super Bowls since then and been to 5 in all. He threw for 50 touchdowns in a season that speaks for it self and just passed Super Bowl Joe for most passing touchdowns in playoff history. Is the tuck rule bogus? yes. But that didn’t define Brady your an idiot if you think that.

  39. Measuring a quarterback on team statistics like SB wins is kind of crazy. I don’t think Brady would argue that he’s a better QB now than he was when he won his three rings, but a lot of people only seem to respect him because of his championships. In that sense, if he hadn’t have won that game, yeah, there’s something to that.

    Should there be? Nah. He’s a hell of a player. But Ray isn’t entirely wrong.

  40. Ray Lewis: we only know you because of a murder you got away with and a white suit.

    You’re not good enough to even be mentioned in the same breath as Brady.

  41. And we only know who Ray Lewis is because he killed a guy. And that tuck rule situation was when Brady was going to his first Super Bowl. What about the other 4 Super Bowls he went to and the 2 other ones he won? I’m pretty sure we still would have heard of Tom Brady Smh.

  42. Tuck Rule + Videotaped walkthrough = SB win over Greatest Show on Turf. It’s easy to be a genius when you know what plays are coming.

  43. There’s a possibility that Brady would have lost his job to another QB if the Pats had been knocked out of the playoffs in the tuck rule game. Thus, I think what Ray Lewis means is that Brady may have never had a chance at a career if it wasn’t for that game.

  44. Ray Lewis was a great football player, but that doesn’t keep him from saying stupid things about football.

    I hate the Patriots as much as anyone….but saying their spying helped them win ignores the fact that they have a far better winning % since spygate than they had before it.

  45. It can legitimately be argued that without Spygate, the Patriots may not only be 0-7 in Superbowls (having won three of them only by 3 points each even though they had their opponents’ practices videotaped), they may not have even made three of those SBs. Brady’s first three all have asterisks, officially or otherwise.

  46. It’s like saying we only know Ray Lewis because of a murder. Wrong. We also know him because of that ridiculous dance before games.

  47. @MDS – Remember that in 2001-02, Brady was Drew Bledsoe’s backup; he only played initially due to injury. If the Pats don’t win that championship, or at least go on a deep playoff run, there’s a very good chance Brady goes back to the bench to start the following season. Or, at best, that there’s a training camp competition to determine which of the two is the Pats’ starter.

    His career could have been completely different.

  48. that was one of the more unfortunate non calls of the last 15 years…I understand Ray’s argument but Brady would’ve won SB’s anyway…

  49. Its the parallel universe theory. What if that had been a fumble, which resulted in a loss and no superbowl. Would they have gone back to Bledsoe the next year as the starter and completely derail brad’s career? Brady only had 18td, 12int, and a ton of sacks in that first year. lewis has a point that one play may have altered his career forever.

  50. Who really cares what Ray Lewis has to say? He belongs in prison not behind the cameras at ESPN. This clown is GARBAGE.

  51. Says the man who’s “legacy” includes being a murderous snitch and fathering a half dozen (that he knows of) children with 4 different women. Yeah, ESPN, good job giving this guy a platform to spout about other player’s legacies….

  52. That was definitely one of the worst calls in the history of the NFL. Woodson slammed his forearm into Brady’s head and wasn’t flagged for roughing the passer. Terrible non-call by the officials.

  53. I think the point is that if they lose that game…maybe they don’t trade Bledsoe in the offseason…then Bledsoe fails to take them to the playoffs the next year and Bellichek is fired. New coach comes in and goes “who is this backup Tom Brady?”…good chance whoever came in would have never realized what he had.

  54. Easily the smartest thing Ray Lewis has said. And let’s not forget that after the tuck rule game, Pats beat Steelers in acfcg, and many steelers players claimed immediately after the game that it was like the Pats knew their plays. We just didn’t know to what extent at that time – now we do.

  55. Enough is enough. I’m sorry the Pats beat the Ravens last week Mr. Lewis.

    As for the Tuck Rule, one it is not Brady’s fault that rule was in place and I think and still do believe it’s a bad rule and the league did the right thing by taking it out. The other point that people have been over looking since that very night. Before the ball was knocked out, Charles Woodson hit Brady in the head. Don’t believe me go back watch the play. It should of been personal foul blow to the head of a QB (was a rule then even and is still today)and 15 yards. If they ref called that nobody is talking about the tuck rule.

  56. Nobody hates the Pats & Brady more than me but this is pretty goofy even for this psycho to say. The only thing to support such a silly claim would be if they lost that game and the next Season, the Pats went back to Bledsoe. The Pats stay mediocre, eventually Belichick gets canned and Brady never gets to play with the great D they had back then. Wow, that would have been nice….

  57. logicalvoicesays says:
    Jan 14, 2015 2:20 PM
    Here’s how many Superbowls the Patriots have won since Spygate :

    ——

    Here’s how many Super Bowls the Redskins have won since Jeffrey Dahmer was sentenced to life in prison:

  58. The tuck rule is dumb and that was a terrible, terrible call. But … Ray Lewis needs to go through the concussion protocol if he thinks that’s the only reason anyone knows who Tom Brady is. Whether or not you like Brady doesn’t change the fact that he is probably on his way to playing in another Super Bowl.

    And even if Brady was only known as Mr. Bündchen, he’d still have a better reputation as a human being than Ray Lewis.

  59. For the first time in my life, I am actually in agreement with something Ray Lewis said. Although he should have also mentioned spygate too. Without these two things tom Brady would be an average qb.

    Other teams fans envy our teams players. Other teams players envy our teams fans. #choochoohawksdynastytrain
    #12thmanisheretostay #dynastybeforeyoureyes #kissthering

  60. Like him or not.., man makes a point. If the Patriots didn’t get past that Playoff game and the fumble was part of the reason. Drew Bledsoe would have been the starting QB the following season.

    Sure., maybe Brady would have made a name for himself in due time, but he wouldn’t have the aura of greatness about him. NFL history changed on that ridiculous call.

  61. If that is the case, we only know Ray Lewis because he got away with killing someone. Where is that white suit with the blood all over it Ray? YOU IDIOT.

  62. We know you Ray…you got away with murder
    We know you Tom …3 time Superbowl champ and superbowl MVP

    nuff said

  63. Enough of this non sense Ray. Yes the Tuck rule helped boy wonder win that game and eventually the SB. However, they still had to beat Pittsburgh in the AFC title game. I hate the POS but to discredit everything he has done and accomplished by stating his career started on a made up rule is completely childish and immature. Football fans know that Brady is one of the top 10 QBs of all time. I do not like to compare Qb’s because of the rule changes, the era each of them played has changed within the last 50-60 years. Like it or not Brady is an all time great, and if you can’t handle that or can even process it then you shouldn’t be watching football.

    – 49er fan

  64. If the ball is in your hand, and I knock it out your hand, whether it’s going backwards, forwards, lateral, sideways, however it’s coming out, that’s a freaking fumble! But guess what we created? We created a freaking tuck rule!”

    ————————–

    Um, Ray, if the ball is going forward, it would be ruled an incomplete pass, you’d have to grab it before it hits the ground. The Tuck Rule, dumb as it was, is an exension of that concept, that once you start foward it is a pass if knocked out.

    It was in the league rule book starting in 1999, before Brady was in the league. So, if it was the first time he heard about it, he probably should’ve studied the rules better since he was a defensive player.

  65. What a dumb thing to say. But, Ray isn’t too bright. Yeah, those 3 Super Bowls have nothing to do with why we know who Tom Brady is.

    Wouldn’t know who Ray Lewis is if he hadn’t skated on a murder charge.

  66. Ray, is that because of what he’s accomplished over the last decade, or because he beat your Ravens this past weekend?

  67. “…..[W]hat you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”

    I’ve been waiting for the chance to use this particular quote and thanks to Ray, I finally have the appropriate spot to do so. Thank you, Ray. I can finally move on with my life.

  68. I agree with Lewis. Had the patriots lost a home game in playoffs I think they would have brought back Bledsoe as the starter the next season. While he won its not like Brady was the be all end all of QBing that season, it was winning the supeerbowl that made him “The Guy” in N.E.

    Ray Lewis is a dope but in this case I think he is right.

  69. What Ray said is pretty ridiculous, but I think you misunderstand his implications. I believe what he’s trying to say is, that if Brady never gets the tuck rule call, he never gets the opportunity to achieve all of those great things he’s done over the years.

    Its as if the Tuck “Moment” was a fork in time which could have led to two outcomes, one of which is Brady being doomed to obscurity.

    Ray Lewis. Deep Thinker.

  70. I love the idiots that only have “Spygate” and “Aaron Hernandez” to say. When a Pats superstar was accused of murder he was released…immediately. Ray Lewis gets a statue built.

    As for Spygate, I laugh at everybody that thinks the Patriots wouldn’t have won without it. Since Spygate, they’re 100-28 regular season with two SB appearances and now 5 AFC championship game appearances.

    Haters can keep hating all they want, but take the tapes away, and since 2006, the Patriots are still consistently better than your favorite teams.

  71. And if Baltimore didn’t have such a good defense, no one would know who Joe Flacco is.

    This could also make for a great SAT analogies question…

    “Tuck rule” is to Tom Brady as “jump ball” is to _________.

  72. To the Patriots haven’t won anything since spy-gate crowd:

    Since 2007 the New England Patriots have a 100-26 regular season win-loss record. They have won two conference titles, seven AFC east titles, and have played in two Super Bowls and 5 conference championships.

    How many NFL franchises can say they have done more during this time period? Not bad for a team that apparently can’t win without cheating.

  73. crackillsdumb says:Jan 14, 2015 2:24 PM

    I’m just being honest — the only reason we know who Ray lewis is, because he shot someone and got away with it.
    _________________________________
    Um, sorry……….not a Ray Lewis fan, but he didn’t shoot anybody anyways, no matter what went on……..on the other hand Aaron Hernandez did shoot someone, several people in fact.

  74. Moron. Did he actually just say that it does not matter if the QB’s hand is moving forward when the ball is knocked out?? That’s the definition of an incomplete pass, not a fumble.

  75. Yea, the tuck rule… plus all of those things mentioned above..

    Oh and lets not forget, he also has this thing, called a wife, and she is kind of a big deal…. WORLDWIDE…

  76. There are three modern day NFL players I would love to never hear from again or hear their names mentioned in the media

    1.) Peyton
    2.) Brady
    3.) Ray Lewis

    I know this will never happen, but it’s been over a decade of worshipping these guys and it’s nauseating and yes, I get it that I clicked on this link.

  77. Since sideline taping was legal prior to 2007 guess what, it wasn’t cheating. And whether other teams were doing the same or simply having a low paid assistant charting signals and plays on a piece of paper, all teams did and still do steal signals.

    Which is not illegal by the way. But hey, if you want to childishly proclaim that something legal at the time was somehow “cheating”, you only show how little you actually know about the sport.

  78. And we wouldn’t know Ray Lewis if not for the missing suit, over the top religious rehabilitation and silly sack dance. He’s the reason I don’t watch ESPN.

  79. Ray Lewis is not the only person on ESPN who finds it necessary to say stupid things in order to appear relevant.

    But this is a free country, and Lewis and the others with a megaphone are free to express their ignorance.

  80. I’m a jets fan and as you can imagine I HATE TO DEFEND the Patriots BUT Ray Lewis has lost his damn mind. Tom Brady would still be Tom Brady and the Patriots would still be the Patriots without the “tuck rule” play – they would just have one less Super Bowl ring.

    This is like when people say if it wasn’t for Mo Lewis’ hit on Bledsoe that there would be no Tom Brady, as if Tom Brady wouldn’t have beaten out Bledsoe eventually…..

  81. Weren’t you accused of a murder crime and somehow got out of it for your superstar status??? That’s how many people know you are….. Whether it’s true or not. Just saying.
    Tom B is known today for much more than that in every stat he keeps putting up.
    I just list respect for you as a commentator.

  82. Ray Lewis, Stephen A. Smith and Warren Sapp should all be put on a deserted island somewhere to rot!

    I’m pretty sure we know who Tom Brady is because of his winning attitude, leadership and 3 Superbowl Rings with what another 2 or 3 SB appearances. Tom Brady is part of the Patriots dynasty.

    Now what we don’t about Tom Brady is a criminal background element, because he has none, unlike you Murder Ray or you’re other Ray Rice Wife beater! The fact that you have to point out something so ridiculous is out of shear jealousy. The Patriots are ten times the organization that the Ravens will ever be. Go Away Ray!

    -A Bears fan

  83. I’m not even a Pats fan and am sick of reading ignorant posts from people who claim that “spygate” was the reason behind them winning Super Bowls. One last time folks….it’s not illegal to videotape the opposing coaches signals, the only issue was with there the camera was placed. For those of you that think they taped practices….please re-read the investigation that stated Matt Walsh NEVER was asked to tape or actually taped any practices of other teams. As a Ravens fan I am embarrassed that Ray Lewis runs his mouth about a future hall of fame QB and can’t keep it classy. If Belichick left new England tomorrow, I would hope the Ravens would fire Harbaugh and hire the hoodie. He is head and shoulders above all other 31 coaches in the league…..even ours. It’s okay to throw out opinion in these forums, but please have your facts straight. I’m still upset over our loss on Saturday, but realize we got outcoached AND outplayed by an aging QB.

  84. Ray Lewis never knew who Jesus was until he disposed of his bloody white suit and made a plea deal to obstruction of justice, in a crime where people died.

    The ‘tuck rule’ was a bad rule, since changed, that was correctly enforced as written. Whether you like it or not. No grey area. I know DBryant caught that ball against GBay, but that rule was called correctly. As written. Maybe they change that one too. But, you can’t keep wishing refs would make calls to make your team win if the rulebook says otherwise. Grow up.

  85. That’s fair – the only reason I know who Ray Lewis is, is because he was an accessory to murder.

  86. Only reason we know Tom Brady is because of a nasty hit Mo Lewis layed on Drew Bledsoe.

    End of story.

    Ray, you’re better off just keeping your mouth shut. Dude’s a joke.

  87. Ray Lewis often speaks jibberish but I think this point is correct- Would Tom Brady have unequivocally been the 2002 starter over Bledsoe without the SB ring? A one-and-done would have probably left the door open for Bledsoe to take back his starting gig, possibly halting Brady’s meteoric rise before it began.

    So it’s not the tuck rule that made Brady, the tuck rule just gave Tom a chance to be the Tom Brady.

  88. Ray “the slayer” Lewis was a great football player, no doubt! Is he more known for his football achievements or the fact that he got away with 2nd degree murder? Many would argue the latter!!!
    His team just got beat and knocked out of the playoffs , so I suppose it’s time for former players, such as Lewis to start Jiving & attempting to take jabs @ the Leader of the team that played the better game that day and ended up on top!!!
    Seriously though, his “theory” would hold a lot more water if he wasn’t attempting to criticize one of the top 3 QBs in the history of the league!!! What a toolbox

  89. Ray’s cute little hats are starting to affect brain function.

    I guess we never would have learned about Brady’s pocket presence, accuracy, arm strength, excelling under pressure, competitiveness, focus, etc… if not for the tuck rule.

    ?

    What is happening?

    Is it the GMO’s?

  90. Brady went down in the AFC championship game against Pitt the next game and Bledsoe came in for him.

    They went back to Brady for the superbowl….so no…they stick with Brady regardless there.

  91. Ray Lewis may have had some football intelligence, but that’s it. This is an unintelligent man, past his prime who I think has nothing to offer anymore. Please remove him from the public eye. Hearing him speak so enthusiastically about absolutely off the wall logic is like nails on a chalkboard. Go away Ray, just go away.

  92. Suck it up Ray Lewis, you are irrelevant and so are your Ratbirds now for this season. Tuck your tail between your legs and shut your fat mouth. The only thing you’ll be known for is murdering people, getting away with it and then coming back to the NFL….hmmm I wonder which I would rather be known for??? Where’s that white suit Ray Ray

  93. Know one had more praise on and off the filed for Brady than Ray Lewis. When Brady was voted by the players as the # 1 rated player in the NFL it was Lewis that did the speech. During the playoffs, Lewis can be heard telling his teammates that they are playing Tom Brady and they have to play their best game to beat him.

  94. And the only reason we know who Ray Lewis is is because he’s a double murderer. Sour grapes over the Pats punking his Ravens? What an embarrassment this loser is to journalism. ESPN needs to dump this clown as soon as possible.

  95. ESPN Radio?

    I thought Steve A. left ESPN radio for Sirius Mad Dog Radio some time ago……

    He stinks either way, but is allowed a bit longer leash on Sirius…

  96. Thankfully the refs called the tuck rule 50 times in 2007 so he could toss 50 TD’s. What an ignorant comment from a faux religious egomaniac who helped commit and cover up a murder. ESPN and the NFL should really be proud to hoist this criminal up as one of their voices. Lame.

  97. This guy is stupid, that’s why,You don’t listen to a guy like this. ESPN SHOULD FIRE THIS GUY

  98. Pardon me for not proof reading my posts. Know instead of no (my last post), using of as a verb instead of have (a few posts back), I find that these quick bursts of thoughts come out phonetically and sound right but look stupid. I won’t be quitting my day job.

  99. …”But it’s ridiculous to suggest that the tuck rule is the only (or even the main) reason we know who Brady is. The tuck rule was 13 years ago. Brady has done pretty well for himself since then.”

    I think it’s pretty ironic that you’ll say this about Brady, yet no one gives Ray the same opportunity. Yeah, it’s been 13 years since the tuck rule, and Brady HAS made a name for himself since then.

    In the same breathe, it’s been 15 years since the murder trial of Ray and his two partners (by the way, not one of the 3 were ever found guilty of the murders). I think Ray did quite a bit to turn his life around since then. Yet no one seems to want to give him a second chance/break either. If he did it, or was involved with the murders, he’ll have to answer to God for what he’s done. But that doesn’t matter to all of the airchair lawyers out there. Heaven forbid, should someone never let you move past indiscretions or mistakes in your past, and have a second chance.

    But whatever, haters are gonna hate. And nothing is going to change the minds of people with at home law degrees that have already determined his guilt. It is what it is. The man turned his life around and made something positive out of it. But people don’t want to see that. They want to keep others down in the mud where they feel they belong. Right next to them.

  100. So many classless jocks continue to come out and take shots at the Pats. It’s so damn disgusting. I was sick of this crap 5 years ago but it’s amazing how jealous Ray Lewis and all the other classless jocks are taking shots at the team that had his number in so many games.

  101. It was an incomplete pass. What also happened on that play was Charles Woodson struck Tom Brady in the head. It should have been a 15 yard unsportsmanlike and first down. Not third down as it was. So only the Patriots got a bad call on that play.

  102. The problem with many on air “talent” is they never really formulate a real thought, they just spew cliches and other misleading statements that all basically say the same thing.

    To expect Ray Lewis to say something smart is like expecting the sun to not rise. There are things we should expect, and those we shouldn’t.

    I do not expect Ray Lewis to form, speak, or articulate a smart thought. So I’m not surprised each and every time he shows how stupid he is.

  103. Glad what he said is in quotes and there wasn’t an audio feed of this. Lewis is hard to understand when he speaks. Not Moses Malone like, but close.

  104. I’ve heard the false narrative over the years (rich Gannon for one likes to spin it) about the fortunes of both franchises changed with that call. Nonsense. The next season the Patriots missed the playoffs and the Raiders were AFC Champions. As Sarah Conner told us “no fate but what we make.”

  105. So one championship was given to him—–then he has not won it since they caught his coach cheating—–did brown nose Micheal Smith forget to mention that! Let’s talk about the future.

  106. One too many blows to the head Ray? Better start picking out a nursing home now before the 10% functioning brain you posses leaves you completely.

  107. Possibly the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard an athlete say.

    Does he honestly believe that every single accomplishment in Brady’s career, which by the way FAR overshadows Lewis’, would not have happened if not for one bad call?

    cdent4- I don’t think he’s guilty of murder. Just of being the quite possibly the worst ex-athlete analyst in history. And this ridiculous comment of his proves it.

  108. “weepingjebus says: Jan 14, 2015 2:24 PM

    Against the Patriots on Saturday, Flacco dropped the ball with both hands, and the refs called it an “incomplete pass” even though there had been no tuck attempt or even a passing motion to begin with. The Ravens did recover the obvious fumble, but the result of the “incompletion” call was that he got a very makeable 4th and 3, instead of 4th and 15. I guess what I’m trying to say is that Ray Lewis probably killed a guy.”

    Seriously. That may be the funniest thing I have read in a while. Thank you for making my day.

  109. “The tuck rule didn’t help the Patriots win the other two Super Bowls of Brady’s tenure as their starting quarterback. ”

    No, but one could reasonably argue that, even worse, cheating did.

  110. The only reason we know who Ray Lewis is: His obvious and documented involvement in murder was totally wiped from official memory.

    Here. Stare into this red light…

  111. Its funny reading, in the same post, people complain about rules being broken (Taping from non sanctioned area) and then when rules are enforced (Tuck RULE) or correct non calls are made (Pats vs Ravens). Then go on to say something that happened in 01,03 and 04 is invalid because of a rule enforced in 2007. People should think before they post.

  112. Ray, you forgot Brady would not have been in a position to try for a perfect season if that dumb Coach of yours didn’t call a timeout that turn a certain a Ravens Victory to defeat…

  113. This coming from the only one convicted in the Atlanta Super Bowl murder case. Sorry Ray, you have no credibility since you outright refuse to talk about the events of that night.

  114. freedomofspeechyesway says: Jan 14, 2015 3:16 PM

    “The tuck rule didn’t help the Patriots win the other two Super Bowls of Brady’s tenure as their starting quarterback. ”

    No, but one could reasonably argue that, even worse, cheating did.

    ——–

    Could they?

    I’ll await your hot take on how video taping defensive signals out in plain view to everyone for advanced scouting was a major cheating scandal…

  115. Ray should be careful. It may turn out that the only reason we remember him is because the things he did on the field are overshadowed by a revelation of more substantial involvement in that Atlanta murder than is now known. Investigators haven’t closed that case.

  116. gomybirdsgo says: Jan 14, 2015 2:43 PM

    I agree with Lewis. Had the patriots lost a home game in playoffs I think they would have brought back Bledsoe as the starter the next season. While he won its not like Brady was the be all end all of QBing that season, it was winning the supeerbowl that made him “The Guy” in N.E.

    ———

    Bledsoe was healthy and had to come in, in the AFCCG to beat Pittsburgh…

    Guess who started the Super Bowl after that…

  117. mrplow3 says:
    Jan 14, 2015 2:21 PM
    I am one of the few Ray Lewis apologists.

    But this right here, this is one of the stupidest things Ive ever heard another human say.

    ——-

    Clearly you’ve never been to Minnesota.

  118. cashindubz says:
    Jan 14, 2015 2:22 PM
    The tuck rule may not of helped them win another 2 Super Bowls, but spygate did. Funny how before spygate Belicheat was known as a defensive genius. Almost every year since the undefeated run (this year an exception), the Pats defense ranked in the 5 worst defenses consistently.

    ——

    2008 – present defensive rankings of the Patriots:

    2008 – pts – 8; yds – 10
    2009 – pts – 9; yds – 11
    2010 – pts – 8; yds – 25
    2011 – pts – 15; yds – 31
    2012 – pts – 9; yds – 26
    2013 – pts – 10; yds – 26
    2014 – pts – 8; yds – 13

    Bottom 5? Don’t let facts and a quick google search get in the way of your fantasies, I guess.

  119. I don’t think Ray really means it the way it sounds. As a Pats fan, I will say this. If the tuck rule didn’t go in our favor, than there’s no guarantee the Pats trade Bledsoe in the offseason. More likely they would have brought Bledsoe back and kept Brady as the backup.

    Since he won the Super Bowl, that was no longer in the cards. But since it was the rule, and that was the call, then we all got the joy of seeing the greatest QB of all-time the past decade+.

  120. This is why anytime I am watching NFL stuff on TV and I see this guy or Dion Sanders or Michael Irvin come on I just immediately change the channel. A bunch of babbling guys that have no clue. I wish they were all like Jamie Dukes or Marshall Faulk, they KNOW football.

  121. lukedunphysscienceproject, I would agree with you. Brady is a good quarterback. Future Hall of Famer. I think the tuck rule just became his infamy (that and that he’s a crybaby and doesn’t like to be touched). So yeah, he still would have been known as a HOF QB regardless.

    As far as Ray’s analyst skills, I guess we’re all not cut out for certain positions. Some athlete’s should never become coaches. Good players, but bad coaches. Guess that could apply to on air personalities as well.

  122. Ray Lewis is the exact same guy he’s always been. Back in the day he’d have been allowed to remain a mean SOB and that would have been a huge chunk of his legacy. But with today’s media he ended his career going through that totally unbelievable image transformation where he’d supposedly become wiser and more likable. He posed for a few pictures but that doesn’t mean anything really changed.

  123. Wow!…just wow

    I’m gonna go to M&T Stadium and slip an oversized Tom Brady shirt onto the Ray Lewis “statue” those fools erected.
    Maybe some class and intelligence will sink into Ray via some cosmic alternate universe transport mechanism currently undiscovered by mankind.

    Or not.

    What a complete imbecile. There you have Maven fans, there’s your Bill Russell, your Kareem Abdul Jabbar, your Michael Jordan.

    I’m sure you’re all beaming with pride

  124. And the only reason the Ravens has the “best defense ever” is that they probably played the worst slate of QBs in the modern NFL:

    Kent Graham
    Mark Brunell
    Jay Feidler (loss)
    Scott Mitchell
    Tim Couch
    Mark Brunell/Jamie Martin
    Brad Johnson (loss)
    Steve McNair (loss)
    Kordell Stewart (loss)
    Akili Smith
    Steve McNair
    Troy Aikman (last season)
    Doug Pederson/Spergon Wynn
    Ryan Leaf
    Jake Plummer
    Vinny Testaverde
    Gus Frerotte/Jarius Jackson
    Steve McNair
    Rich Gannon
    Kerry Collins

    Who they did not play:
    Peyton Manning
    Donovan McNabb
    Brett Favre
    Dante Culpepper
    Kurt Warner/Trent Green
    Jeff Garcia
    Drew Bledsoe
    Elvis Grbac

  125. We wouldn’t know who Ray is if the police had found the white suit. Whether you liked the rule or not it was a rule. And Brady got them to that point by winning games. Brady had solidified his place as the starter on the pats before that tuck rule game, it’s safe to say he would have continued on as the starter. Furthermore he had two back to back Superbowls in 2003-2004, 2 MVP seasons, an undefeated regular season and two more superbowl appearances since the Tuck Rule. .Put the crack down Ray. Spews nonsense.

  126. Of course it had to be Ray Lewis who pipes up with something as stupid as this. And of course it had to be Steven A. Smith on the other end. Of course.

    Whether they know it or not, football fans who hate the Ravens hate the Ravens because of Ray Lewis and the imprint his laughably strained self-importance and decidedly childish notion of manliness left on the team. Not even a classy guy like John Harbaugh–yes, he’s a classy guy and a first-rate coach–could get out the skid mark that Lewis left in Baltimore’s underwear. Not enough Clorox in the world for that job, coach. It’s too bad that Ed Reed, whose play was every bit as transcendent as Lewis’s, didn’t have as much influence on the team’s culture.

  127. I believe Ray was misquoted, it’s hard to clearly understand someone who speaks with a foot in their mouth all the time.

  128. This is flat out embarrassing. I don’t even need to expand further. This statements idiocy speaks for itself. Brady is one of the best QB’s to ever play the game. Period.

    -Bills fan.

  129. I’m really trying to follow your logic here ray ray. So prior to the tuck rule (something Brady himself laughed about during the post game presser) he was just a no talent bum who was lucky he made it to the playoffs. And then AFTER the refs made that admittedly bizarre ruling, the football gods looked down and bestowed upon Tom all the talent he has used after that to have all the achievements he’s won? Is that what your saying? That without that one call Tom would have been cut the very next year? Stick to making up fairy tales about murder Ray Ray your clearly better at that

  130. The people in Baltimore worship at the statue of Ray Lewis which tells you a lot about that town.

    I stopped watching ESPN when they hired Ray Lewis and continue that to this day as he reflects the dumbing down of a once great society.

    He is a dumb ego maniac who should be in prison but isn’t because of homie justice…..snitches get stitches and ditches.

    Sounds like the source of all the whining coming out of Baltimore is not from their pathetic coach alone.

  131. Keep crying Ray….I love the tears.

    Its fun beating rivals in big games and all but what makes it super sweet is when you make them cry…

    There have been many who have attempted to challenge us in the past 14 years and we’ve watched them all shrink back down to obscurity while we’ve consistently contended for SB titles year in and year out.

    14 seasons…
    13 double digit win seasons…
    12 Division titles…
    9 AFC Championship Game appearances including four straight…

    …Seeking our 6th trip to the Super Bowl and 4th Lombardi trophy.

    Trust me when I tell you this…There are no words that any irrelevant has been player, coach, or fan can say that can wipe the smile of my face.

    Regardless of whatever happens on Sunday or on future Sundays, I am a blessed football fan and loving every minute of it.

    Keep the tears flowing…It puts great joy in my heart knowing our rivals have none in theirs.

    );p

  132. Yeah, if I was Brady I’d do one of two things- either get a restraining order against Ray OR, send him a couple of suits. Perhaps a white one and orange jumper.

  133. Ray Lewis, what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

  134. I agree that Ray has a point, to an extent. Is the “tuck rule” directly responsible for all of Brady’s success? Absolutely not. However, if that play doesn’t go the way it did, how does that change EVERY single thing after that. Think: Butterfly Effect. Look it up.

    Just think about that time you were running 5 minutes late for work and avoided that big wreck on the highway. What caused you to be late? What caused that to happen?

    Ray’s point isn’t completely factual, but it’s well-taken.

  135. You would think this Cat would be sitting at home laying low for the rest of his life thanking God he doesn’t wear an Orange Jumpsuit with a number on the back of it for the rest of his life staring out of a cage.

  136. From Above:

    “Ray Lewis was never the sharpest pencil on the box, but after reading those comments I can visualize his I.Q. dropping by another 20-30 points.” —————————————————————————————————————-
    Didn’t realize IQ’s could be negative numbers! LOL

  137. Damn Brady must really get under the skin of his opponents. Clearly they can’t stand the fact that Brady is better then most NFL players and one of the best QBs of all time. So much bitterness from these players and Brady just feeds on it all.

  138. crackillsdumb says: Jan 14, 2015 2:24 PM

    I’m just being honest — the only reason we know who Ray lewis is, because he shot someone and got away with it.
    ______________________________

    Sadly you typed this and felt smart. You are the epitome of today’s American “excellence” – a loud-mouth, ignoramus who lacks the intellectual curiosity to know what happened in the ATL, yet has an opinion anyway.

    PS No one was shot that night, genius. By Ray or anyone else.

  139. i agree with ray lewis, who i know about only because he is the guy that dropped dime on his buddies who were facing murder charges and still refuses to discuss or explain the incident….

  140. “Brady>>>>>Lewis”

    For one, I would love to see Brady playing inside linebacker. Comparing a grape to a watermelon

  141. Its useless to argument on What Ifs, maybe if they lose they to back to Bledsoe (it happened when Brady got hurt some time ago and what’s his name got them to the playoffs and got sent to to the chiefs)… But as a Raider fan I have to say, few people remember than before that play we had a 3rd down and 1 with Zack Crockett and Jon Richie and got stuffed. Make that and we win, period.

  142. harveyredman says: Jan 14, 2015 3:50 PM

    “PS No one was shot that night, genius. By Ray or anyone else.”

    You’re right. It was a fatal stabbing, not a shooting. Lewis had someone discard his bloody clothes, so let’s not beatify him just yet.

  143. Sour grapes over last Sunday? I will give Lewis credit for being a great football player. On the other hand,he should thank the Good Lord that he’s not doing three hots and a cot for the rest of his life.

  144. Everyone has said everything on my mind. That being said, if not for being involved in a murder, many wouldn’t know Ray Lewis. A true piece of trash.

  145. The tuck rule was actually called in a game against the Jets earlier in the year (Jets fans don’t deny this fact.) Plus didn’t Joe Flacco earlier this year defeat the Dolphins because of the Tuck Rule? When you look at the play again Woodson used a forearm to Brady’s head which should have been a 15 yard penalty and a first down. Tuck Rule is dumb yes but I’m pretty sure his multiple MVP’s, multiple Super Bowl Rings, 2007 season, having a winning record against every team in the NFL, and having Giselle as his wife is how people know him. Brady can be a diva sometimes but he’s one of the best qb’s of all time. Plus last time I checked Ray Lewis you killed 2 people in Atlanta and got away with it by paying off the victims families and getting rid of the white suit. You’re salty because the Ravens lost despite the fact that you are supposed to be impartial which is a joke.

  146. OMG, Yet another whiney Raven. What is with that organization? Wait, I’m sorry Ray, put the knife down, I like your white suit your wearing today, oh no ahhhhhh.

  147. Ray’s right, in the grand scheme of things. Why so much bitterness towards Ray? He defended himself, just as George Zimmerman did, right???

  148. Ray Lewis? The same Ray Lewis tried for murder in Atlanta? Same Ray who ratted on his buddies at trial? Same Ray who has 6 kids with 4 women? Same Ray paid to say shocking things on ESPN? OK. Got It.

  149. @Patsfan1820

    The tuck rule is no longer on the books so no… The Ravens did not win against Miami because of it. Replay you’re thinking of was an incomplete pass.. ball was coming forward in his hand but was ruled on the field a fumble. After review concluded it was ruled an incomplete pass, he was throwing the ball not tucking it.

    Tuck rule is no more… if that play against Oakland took place today it would be … by rule.. a fumble.

  150. It seems that any time some over-the-hill blabbermouth wants to get in the news, they say something about the Patriots. I guess that proves how popular the Patriots are!

  151. As aRaider fan the tuck rule will never die still makes ESPN top five worst calls of all time 13-14 years later .The NFL stuck it to Mr Davis because he always beat them in court and players who worked s o hard that year were robbed ……

  152. I don’t typically like Ray, but he’s right. Clearly the NFL has or at least had an agenda that did not include the Raiders. I’m a Bronco fan that can actually say, “the Raiders were robbed”. Seeing as how his whole legacy was predicated on favoritism, a made up rule, who is to ever know how Brady would have handled losing his first big game. NE is a large market and the NFL exploits that fact for monitory gain. They attempted to cover up the Ray Rice incident for the same reasons- monitory gain. Mark Cuban had a point when he said, when pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. Hopefully this happens soon.

  153. @rhemish (I see all the NE fans calling Ray a Murderer talk about the kettle calling the pot black can you say Aaron Hernandez WOW)

    The difference here, which you are failing to note, is that the Patriots released Hernandez the day he was accused, while Baltimore built a statute of that incoherent idiot savant of a linebacker.

  154. We know Aaron Hernandez is a murderer. He was released by the patriots as soon as he was arrested. None of us want a thing to do with him.

    Ray Lewis and Baltimore fans on the other hand. Sort of like oj. You know he did it but no one cares

  155. Why did they invent the tuck rule? I mean really why. I’ve tried looking up the answer but I found nothing that would justify its place in the rulebook in 1999. Was their an incident that caused people to question what is a qb fumble ?

    Thank god its gone though.

  156. Anybody remember earlier in that same season the tuck rule was called in favor of Vinny Testaverde and the jets? The rule wasn’t made up for brady or the jets.!do your homework turds

  157. “The Tuck Rule call was a trick of the devil!! If you knew — if you really knew — the way God works, he don’t use referees who commits anything like that for his good. No way. It’s the total opposite.” – Ray Lewis

  158. rhemish says:
    Jan 14, 2015 4:21 PM
    I see all the NE fans calling Ray a Murderer talk about the kettle calling the pot black can you say Aaron Hernandez WOW
    *******************
    When you visit Foxboro and see a statue of Aaron Hernandez let me know, I’ll take everything back negative I’ve ever said about Ray Lewis.

    That guy was a great player, but he is so self absorbed and simply
    loves the sound of his own voice.

  159. Totally agree with Ray. This call single-handedly caused the downfall of the Raiders with John Gruden being traded to TB shortly after and well you know…the rest is history. Without this call, the Raiders most likely go on to the Super Bowl that year and definitely the next under Chucky. Tom Brady will go down as one of the all time best and deservedly — however, you have to admit, at the demise of the “league hated” Raiders.

  160. Ray Lewis, MURDERER. Paid off families and turned state’s evidence in exchange for reducing the charge to obstruction of justice. Aided by the scummiest organization in pro sports. When Ray comes on ESPN, turn the channel.

  161. Ray is unquestionably the most respected and inspiring player in NFL history. He’s entitled to say something goofy every once in a while.

  162. The careers of most every late round quarterback is made because of a lucky break (or two or three). The Tuck Rule game was Brady’s. If he loses that game, who knows if he gets another chance to play.

    Do you mean to tell me that no player with HOF potential ever missed his chance at immortality due to riding the bench? So no great player ever washed out of the league before we really knew how great he was because of game & roster circumstances?? Of course they have, but we’ll never know who they were because they didn’t play. Brady could have easily been one of those guys, and in that respect, Lewis is correct.

  163. Ray’s always Right.

    Love all the white suit comments maybe if you find a guy wearing a white suit you would find the murderer. Ray was dressed in a big PURPLE PIMP coat and that’s what attracted so much attention.

  164. Wow. Bizarre thing for a media figure to say. Just wow. He’s not even that good on ESPN. So long Ray, enjoy retirement.

  165. Ray Lewis is an idiot for saying something so stupid, beyond stupid really. Just an attention grab cause we cant all watch him fall down crying everywhere.

  166. tebowislife says:
    Jan 14, 2015 2:35 PM
    Tuck Rule + Videotaped walkthrough = SB win over Greatest Show on Turf. It’s easy to be a genius when you know what plays are coming.
    ———————————————————

    This is an example of why someone like Ray Lewis can spew b.s. There’s always bigger fools who eat it up.

  167. cashindubz says: Jan 14, 2015 2:22 PM

    The tuck rule may not of helped them win another 2 Super Bowls, but spygate did. Funny how before spygate Belicheat was known as a defensive genius. Almost every year since the undefeated run (this year an exception), the Pats defense ranked in the 5 worst defenses consistently.

    I know there are gonna be people posting about the Ravens and criminals and Ray Lewis a criminal. Alfonzo Dennard gets a DUI while waiting his jail sentence for assaulting an officer, not to mention Pats signing Talib after he shot up the neighborhood. So lets just say the Pats are not saints either.
    __________________________________

    Yeah, his defense dropped off because all of the top draft picks from when the Pats STUNK either got old and went to other teams or retired (Seymour, McGinnest, Samuels, etc.). BB gets a lot of credit but it’s about the players you have too. When you draft in the last 10 picks every year because you make the playoffs, hard to get a surefire hit in the draft. You can see with adding just a player like Revis and drafting a few solid defensive players (Collins/Hightower/McCourty) he can put out a top 10 defense….though he’s proven to be a better coach than a GM – he’s had a bunch of misses.

    The genius thing is overplayed, but so is spygate. If you want to be objective and realize that more than one variable comes into play when judging a team or a coach’s performance, great. If you just want to come on here and look foolish posting about spygate, carry on.

  168. hairpie2 says: Jan 14, 2015 2:25 PM

    We wouldn’t know about him if he didn’t get away with murdering 2 people and destroying the suit.

    Does he realize the “tuck rule” was called AGAINST the Pats earlier that same year?

    ______________________________

    Yeah, this is lost on a lot of people. The only reason the call in the Raiders game got reversed is because BB remembered the EXACT SAME THING being called against them earlier in the season and discussed that with the officials for the review…..but that doesn’t fit the narrative of BB and Brady being coddled/favored/cheaters.

  169. 1. This is about the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard a supposed analyst say. Whether you like him or not, Brady is going to go down as one of the best QBs ever, and will be a 1st ballot HOFer. The ONLY way Ray could be even remotely correct is if you believed the Pats would have cut him after that game (had they lost), and no one else would have picked him up. Simply wasn’t going to happen.

    2. Hate to rain on the haterade parade, but once again, what they got busted for in Spygate wasn’t a rules violation in the years they won those SBs. So, whine all you want. Declare there to be as many asterisks as you want. You’re simply wrong. They didn’t win because they broke the rules. The rules were changed after they won. Even then, the violation wasn’t THAT they videotaped other teams, it was where they taped them from. Taping the sidelines is still within the rules, if you tape from the acceptable area.

  170. The Raiders former RT Lincoln Kennedy says the same thing . THAT GAME WAS FIXED ! The NFL didn’t want the Raiders in the Super Bowl post 9/11 and Bob Kraft was close friends with Tagliabue . Besides it was the last game in old Schaffer stadium.

  171. marcosarroyo2013 says: Jan 14, 2015 4:48 PM

    Totally agree with Ray. This call single-handedly caused the downfall of the Raiders with John Gruden being traded to TB shortly after and well you know…the rest is history. Without this call, the Raiders most likely go on to the Super Bowl that year and definitely the next under Chucky. Tom Brady will go down as one of the all time best and deservedly — however, you have to admit, at the demise of the “league hated” Raiders.
    ——————————————————–
    Maybe, but he wasn’t saying the Tuck rule killed the Raiders, he was saying it’s the only reason we’ve ever heard of Brady. Besides, the Tuck rule didn’t force Al Davis to trade Gruden. Nor did it prevent Davis from finding a new coach that actually knew how to win. Nor did it force Davis to draft all those busts just because they ran a fast 40. Simply because one thing follows another, that doesn’t mean that it was caused by it. That’s one of the most common fallacies out there.

  172. “Wow! This guy is still bitter? He must go to bed every night just thinking about Brady and patriots. Wow. Time to get over it man. If you lost by one play, you lost. You had a whole game to dominate. You didn’t. And let’s be honest. You would have lost bad next game even if you did win. But haha. Still on about this?” -yeah I don’t think Ray Lewis is bitter about much seeing as how is last game ever played was a Super Bowl victory- not to mention hammering the patriots in the afc championship that same year. So not sure what your sayin there buddy but you obviously don’t know Ray Lewis. I’ve watched a lot of biased analysts over there years- but when it comes to Ray Lewis working for espn, he has remained pretty neutral. Who knows , maybe if it wasn’t for that play Brady may not have remained the starter the next year, this was early on before he had proven himself and when Bledsoe was still around I believe. Obviously no one knows what would have happened if that never happened- but it’s definitely a reasonable possibility. People just can’t handle the truth .

  173. i’ve never heard a human being preach so much garbage just so people will listen to him
    he acts like a born again christian as a smokescreen for accessory for murder of which he could well be still doing time

    maybe he’s taking too much of that antler spray…

    how about it’s a travesty the NFL didn’t investigate this man’s herculean return from a season ending injury just in time for one more superbowl run. i’m sure they’d have found he didnt do it legally

    this man’s a FRAUD

  174. 1st the Tuck Rule,
    Then the Don’t hit Tom rule,
    Then the don’t tell anyone about ineligible receiver rules.

    The league has to keep creating rules for Tommy, that don’t apply to other teams!!

  175. Listen to all the haters…as if Brady and NE haven’t benefitted from spygate and the tuck rule…that’s all the man is saying!

  176. Yeah, the only reason we know who Brady is is because of the tuck rule. You smoking that wacky tabacky again, Ray? Seems like Brady just kicked your Ravens’ butts again, so I guess we have heard of him for more reasons than the tuck rule. What a moron!

  177. theravens1 says:
    Jan 14, 2015 5:58 PM
    1st the Tuck Rule,
    Then the Don’t hit Tom rule,
    Then the don’t tell anyone about ineligible receiver rules.

    The league has to keep creating rules for Tommy, that don’t apply to other teams!!
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    Lol the Tuck Rule was invented in 1999, Tom Brady was hit more than 10 times on Saturday including 2 knees to the face that didn’t get called, and the refs told the Ravens not to cover Vereen. Ravens love to cry and moan yet I didn’t see them complaining about the pro-Raven calls on Saturday.

  178. Brady has benefited from that and other bad officiating in his career, and I am no Patriots fan at all.
    But the statement is silly. He has earned the respect of someone like Ray Lewis a 1000 times over in his career aside from that first superbowl.
    Ray knows that, its really a silly statement.

    Really, if Brady had NO superbowls, he has still established amazing creds over his career.

  179. What he means is he is right from that moment in time. I remember watching the game, thinking who is this guy that they are bending the rules.

    I also remember Brady on the sideline looking convinced that it was a fumble.

    Then we definitely found out who he was when the Patriots were chucking Rams in the Super Bowl, so much so that they changed the rules.

    Then we found out some more when they were recently sending ineligible receivers down the field against the Ravens.

    We all know who Brady is, but those outside of NE would put a footnote on his Hall of Fame bust.

  180. No, we only know the Tuck Rule BECAUSE of Tom Brady and Adam Vinatieri.

    If Brady hadn’t made the next 11 completions in a row, and Adam the kicks, we would have all forgotten about it. Plus, they needed to beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh and win as two TD underdogs in the Superbowl. Those achievements were independent of the tuck rule.

    As has been mentioned elsewhere, the tuck rule was called before, and continues to be called. Nice try hater.

  181. belichickluvsu says:
    Jan 14, 2015 4:30 PM

    What’s the patriots win loss record since spy gate. It’s pretty dang good
    —————————–
    Not in Super Bowls.

  182. That was the biggest clearest ripoff in the history of the NFL, no question about it.

    Without that, the Raiders continue their dominance of the AFC and the Pats remain the Pats, a team that was merely average.

  183. So according to Ray, that wasn’t Tom Brady out there on Sunday throwing for 367 yards and 3 TDs against a tough Ravens defense. That was someone impersonating Tom Brady. Got it.

  184. The only reason we know Ray Lewis is because he lied to cover up a murder done by someone he knows. He still hasn’t revealed who that is, and no one has been arrested for the murder.
    Lewis is another example of the networks putting a guy on television who can’t put a sentence together without sounding like they just pulled him out a street gang.

    Tom Brady has more class in his little finger than Lewis has in his whole body. Lewis couldn’t run on to a football field without acting like a jerk by doing some dance he was doing that made it look like he had fire ants in his jock strap.

    I am not a Patriots fan, but Tom Brady’s career dwarfs pea brain Lewis’s career.

    And the only uniform Lewis should have been wearing was a prison uniform for lying under oath about that murder. You should be real proud of yourself, Ray. Do us all a favor and just go away or shut up.

  185. COLTS PRESSURE BRADY UP THE MIDDLE, AND THE COLTS WIN. BRADY VERY AVERAGE AT BEST WITH PEOPLE IN HIS FACE.

    EVERYBODY KNOWS BRADY FUMBLED, TUCK RULE OR NO TUCK RULE!

  186. Tom Brady is 60 minutes away from being the FIRST qb in NFL history to go to the Super Bowl 6 times.

    Ray Lewis was the BEST MLB of the last 20 years.

    They are both icons. They are both HOFers. They are both legends.

    The statement by Lewis is moronic.

  187. Just like all the comments n explanation he does on
    Football, I still to this day don’t understand anything
    He says , can somebody please explain it to me or
    translate to me. Thank you

  188. The tuck rule AND spygate. Oh Bill Belichick too.
    LOL!!
    Guys, I’m hoping he was just joking because this doesn’t look good on him. ESPN has hires clowns like Stephen A Smith, and the judge Judy lookalike Skippy Baless and now Im hoping Ray doesn’t join those two fools.

  189. This may be the most comments I have seen on tbis blog.
    Ray Lewis is stupid. We only know him cause he is a murderer and he got away.

    Pack fan

  190. Ray really?

    ESPN doesn’t even report on his comments? I thought they were the sports leader?

    Ray your just a bitter old man . Brady If not the best at least one of the best.

    SMH

  191. It’s funny how everyone blames Belicheck for spy gate when mcdaniels is more to blame he not only was involved in spygate 1 but he goes to Denver and does it again. If anyone should take blame it’s him. Also every team and coach in the nfl does what it can to take advantage. Based on some of the comments I read all of jimmy johnsons super bowls are tainted to since he admitted to stealing the play books and notes out of opposing teams play calling booths. Several coaches have admitted to hiring sideliners to steal signals throughout the game which is legal. As long as you don’t record it. Teams bring in players for one game for the single purpose of getting in edge over a former team. Saying on team cheats more than another is just silly. It’s just several teams have gotten caught.

  192. If you think Lewis is pissed at Brady now, just think how mad he’s going to be when Brady retires and takes Rays spot on the broadcast!!!!!!

  193. I’m wondering what the entire context of the conversation is because I’ve heard Ray gush over Tom in the past. During one of the “NFL TOP 100” Lewis and Reevis (while with the Jets) were the ones describing how great Brady is. This could be misconstrued.

  194. Absurd that all the comments about Ray being a murderer are getting upvoted so much in this thread.

    Guess what, there was never any actual evidence that he killed anyone. Thank God our justice system isn’t guilty until proven innocent, or fans like you guys would be calling for people’s heads left and right.

    Oh, and “he’s known just because of the murder charges?” I think being undeniably one of the best linebackers as all time as well was winning Super Bowl MVP might contribute to being well known. Maybe.

    Like it or not Pats fans, that tuck rule play isn’t called and the Pats lose a ring. Who knows about their other two, but it would certainly be different.

  195. I for one am glad they stole signals from Seifert, Weinke, and the 1-15 Panthers to use against Fox and Delhomme two years later. They would not have won that SB without them.

  196. I think what Ray meant to say was that if the Pats lose that game it was no guarantee that Brady would be the unquestioned starter the following season, which is a valid hypothesis. Lewis’ problem was if that was indeed his point, he did a poor job getting it across.

  197. Half the morons on here don’t actually know what the tuck rule was. I’d guess maybe five to ten percent actually know what ‘Spygate’ was all about. But, by all means, don’t let knowledge get in the way of your opinion.

  198. the refs helped them beat Oakland, and they cheated their way over Pittsburgh the next week.

    without the tuck rule Pittsburgh wins the super bowl, Bledsoe is named starter the next season, and Brady retires a few years later after being cut by 10 teams, and enters the gay adult film industry

  199. Lewis had testified that Oakley, Sweeting and another man had gone to a sporting goods store the previous day to buy knives. Baker’s blood later was found in Lewis’ limo. Having fled the crime scene, Lewis told the limo’s passengers to “keep their mouths shut.” The white suit Lewis was wearing that night — on Super Bowl Sunday — never was found.

    “I’m not trying to end my career like this,” Lewis said in his hotel that night, according to the testimony of a female passenger in the limo.

    He didn’t. For his punishment, Lewis received one year of probation and a $250,000 fine by the NFL.

    Rest in peace, Richard Lollar and Jacinth Baker

  200. When CBS kicks Ray to the curb, I’ll pay attention again. This is just another example. He’s simply unwatchable. Ray never lacked in football ability. Applying his brain, however, has consistently proven to be an insurmountable challenge…

  201. never any actual evidence that he killed anyone

    Unsolved murder.

    Ray will search the golf courses of America til he finds the killer – oops, that was O.J.

  202. It’s true! Has anybody benefited more for a completely BS call–a BS call that totally cost the Raiders a playoff win? Answer: no.

    Not to mention playing with a coaching staff that was blatantly cheating for YEARS. Oh, right, the fans from cold, gray, dreary Foxboro tell us: Stealing signals isn’t a big deal. Pats haven’t won diddly since.

  203. The only way this comment makes sense is if you think in terms of what the Patriots were building at that time didn’t require an elite QB to get the job done. So theoretically, the Pats don’t win that SB and maybe Brady isn’t the starter 2 years later for whatever reason. A lot of people would say that team is still VERY successful in early 2000’s with whatever QB Bill hand picks…and that logic is supported by Matt Cassell’s 11-5 season and the fact that it was actually Bledsoe that beat the Steeler’s in the AFC Championship during their first SB as 10 point underdogs when Brady went out early with an injury…..hmmmm.

  204. All I ca say is thank God for that tuck rule because of it wasn’t for that I’d have no clue who the Patriots QB has been for the last 14 years… Thanks for enlightening us all Ray… By the way who are you & what have you done lately? I seem to remember something about you being a NFL player or something but 1st & foremost I do recall you being a murder that got away with it… So I guess we could say if it wasn’t for you killing someone we’d have no idea who you were as well…sound about right??!!

  205. You can piss & moan all you ant about the tuck rule but watch the play again & ask yourself why wasn’t Woodson penalized for a hit to the head ? The tuck pay would not have even mattered if the call was made.

  206. That is without a doubt, the most disrespectful thing I have ever heard one player say about another.

    I use to respect Ray’s opinion on football, but this is literally the stupidest comment I’ve ever heard in sports. Wow. Just wow.

    You’re talking about a top 3-5 QB ever to play the game. Anyone who argues Brady out of that conversation either doesn’t understand football, or is blinded by their own hate/jealousy. To say the man just lucked his way to that place in history is to discredit his life’s work (so far) and absolutely shameful. Its borderline unbelievable.

  207. I think Ray Lewis actually may not know that the Tuck Rule is real and it has been implemented numerous times a season before and after the Raiders imploded

    The competition committee reviewed it – affirmed it was appropriately called in that game – and kept the rule I believe until just this year.

    Lewis is an embarrassment. A football player should actually know the rules of his game.

  208. #whinegate

    It must be in the water in baltimore. I love listening to these jealous clowns show how envious they are of brady and the patriots. Especially on these comment boards. Bahahhahha hate us cuz u aint us.

    Ur team and franchises are a joke compared to the patriots

  209. Ray Lewis is a first ballot NFL hall of fame player known for his play on the field, his study, and his leadership. Anything else is just noise.

  210. Franco Harris had a great career but we know him for one thing the hail mary catch.

    Drew Pearson had a hell of a career with Dallas but we know him for that great catch to win it all against the Vikings.

    We can go on and on about one guy, one single play but the thing is, these same guys have great careers made up of a lot of great play. How many TD’s has Brady thrown in the playoffs.
    How many wins does he have? Yards passing?

  211. I have a 60 inch picture of one of the most genius football players clobbering Ben Rothlisberger hanging in my man cave, this same picture also has the dumbest most clueless egomaniac to walk the earth since Bonaparte. These men are the same man….Ray Lewis

  212. The tuck rule is kind of like today’s Calvin Johnson/dez Bryant rule. What used to be a fumble is no longer a fumble, and what used to be a catch is no longer a catch.

  213. What Ray and most non Patriot Fans (or even younger ones) fail to realize is that Brady was going to supplant Bledsoe as the starter of that team sooner rather than later anyway.

    It was a well known fact that Belichick was not a fan of Bledsoe from the beginning. He was a slinger who made poor decision’s with the football. To add to it, Brady soared up the QB depth chart but intensely out working and out playing him in practice. Don’t take my word for it, go ahead and google some comments from players on the roster that year. Brady was winning over the locker room the same way he did at Michigan. Bill was heading towards another Kosar/Testerverde situation before Mo Lewis bailed him out with that hit. Once Brady got on the field, it was game over, even if the fans didn’t know it yet.

    All you need to know about how much Bill thought of Drew as a player was spelled out when he traded him WITHIN the division!!

    Heck the Browns last playoff win was in 1995.. I remember it well. Belichick confused the bejeezus out of Bledsoe and then coach… Pete Carroll.

  214. To say this is ignorant at best and stupid at worst. Its Ray Lewis so his dumb bloviating is none to surprising. Its an insult to Brady and what he has accomplished. There are a lot of what ifs in life, but it is what it is. Ray should know that best. Sports the ball may bounce a certain way… the rest they say is history.

  215. Cmon admit it….when you saw the title of this article you weren’t thinking “tuck rule”. You were thinking of Spygate or you were thinking the of the injury to the Pats QB that got Brady in the game in the first place.

    As far as spygate goes, they did win all those SBs by small margins, and they LOST SBs when they were HUGE favorites.

    There’s a lot of ways we would NOT have heard of Brady. For example, he happened to get on the perfect team with the perfect coach at the perfect time in history, when the Fins, Bills and Jets all went thru what was essentially a dry spell for a decade…which meant the pats waltzed to the division title year after year, only had to play 2 cushy home games in the playoffs, didnt have to fight tooth and nail with the Physical Ravens or the Physical Steelers at all, and benefitted while those two teams were bashing each others brains in twice a year….put them in a different division with a different coach (Belichick could theoretically been with the Jets or Giants had things fell differently into place) and a different situation and things turn out…….ta dah! Different.

    Brady is a pretty good player, he’s not a bad player, but you have to admit a LOT fell into place for this guy over his career.

  216. Brady is one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play the game. I don’t like it when he gets emotional and acts like a spoiled brat. If anyone saw the “miked up” (Tyrell Suggs) clip of last weeks game, you can see and hear a perfect example of him acting like a five year old. After the Ravens players sack him, they start to verbally and physically intimidate him. He gets up angrily and screams at the referee, “HE PUNCHED ME, HE PUNCHED ME!!!” No one punched him. It was comical.

  217. The Tuck Rule was called in the AFC Championship game Raymond!!!! It got the Patriots to the Super Bowl and SPY GATE won it!!! Ever since getting busted for SPY GATE the Patriots have won ZERO Super Bowls!

  218. And once and for all, EVERY team was videotaping and stealing signals. It was LEGAL. Goodell sent that memo about not to videotape to EVERY team in the NFL, not just the Patriots. That’s because EVERY team in the NFL was videotaping and stealing signals, not just the Patriots.

  219. metitometin, you sound ridiculous. Then why did the Pats get a huge fine and lose a draft pick?

  220. If it hadn’t been for a hail marry pass and the helmet catch in 07 and a Welker dropped pass in 12, the Pats would be 5-0 in the SBs and Brady would go down as arguable the best QB ever.

    I respect how the ravens often play my Pats hard, but I cannot stand that whole organization, especially the players. They win because they’re good, but they lose it’s always because the opposing team got lucky or cheated. Nothing but a whole bunch of sore LOSERS!!!

  221. Those of us that were there watching the games before the playoffs that year knew regardless of the outcome of the season, we had something very special happening. I vividly recall saying after watching his first two games that “this kid has a little Joe Montana in him.” Only outsiders actually believe Brady magically transformed after the playoff win against the Raiders, where Brady went on to lead the game tying and game winning drives, and the Raiders failed to convert two 3rd and 1 situations that would have ended the game.

    I’m completely convinced now that Ray Lewis was indeed involved in that homicide, and I find it shameful the networks prop him up because he was not convicted in a courtroom. He’s just THAT stupid.

  222. crownofthehelmet says:
    Jan 15, 2015 9:39 AM
    metitometin, you sound ridiculous. Then why did the Pats get a huge fine and lose a draft pick?

    ———————————————————-

    Because Roger had sent a league wide memo just a week prior and Roger didn’t like the answers he heard on why it they did it.

  223. Apparently Ray has been hanging out with Don Shula. What is up with these clowns? If Brady and the Patriots were not in their heads, and they were not jealous, they would never even think to comment like this.

    It reminds me of Isaiah Thomas saying “If Larry Bird were black, he’d be just another good guy” as opposed to one of the greatest players in the history of the Association.

  224. The real crime here is what Stephen A. Smith went on to say about this on “First Take.” A supposedly educated man (Smith) went on to support Lewis in his comments, and say they the tuck rule game is what elevated Brady and without it he wouldn’t have the aura of “Tom Brady,” etc. I have always felt an angry undertone to Smith’s commentary, and on more than one occasion I have cringed at what I perceived as comments from him that appeared to have a basis in his personal issues with race. The list of Brady’s records and accomplishments is nearly endless. Only a fool would make these comments. This is not the first time I have thought Stephen A. Smith to be a fool. His simmering angry man routine is just plain old.

  225. Stephen A. Smith (and I can only guess what the A. stands for) apparently was not paying attention to Tom Brady before the tuck rule game. Had he been watching, he would have seen greatness coming. His comments in support of Ray Lewis and his own personal interpretation of events is marred by jealousy and hatred for The Man.

  226. They’ll give anyone a mic these days. I remember when you had to be soft-spoken but articulate Todd Christensen. Now any retired player who can barely construct a sentence let alone a complete thought can be an “analyst.”

  227. This bad call was the origin of the Brady/bellechek era. If it never happens the patriots don’t win back to back superbowls . That’s not even debateable.

  228. highlogic says:
    Jan 15, 2015 4:49 PM
    This bad call was the origin of the Brady/bellechek era. If it never happens the patriots don’t win back to back superbowls . That’s not even debateable.

    ———————————————————

    Nope. This was the 01 team; the back to back years were 03 and 04.

  229. phillyphinsfan sas:

    HE PUNCHED ME, HE PUNCHED ME!!!” No one punched him. It was comical.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    no Brady said he poke me in the eye.

    If you saw the press conference after the game and since then, Brady has a blood shot eye.

    not so comical

    what is comical is the dolphins not firing philbin.

  230. The Ravens should have never been in the playoffs in 2012. Anyone remember the 4th and 29 that was spotted HORRIBLY, offensive PI missed against Broncos from their own 15, this was the year that convinced me that the NFL is fixed. It’s all crap. Brady is going to go down as one of the greatest of all time. Lewis embodies what the Ravens organization is….. They turn their head when their players beat their wives and kids. How anyone is a fan of that team is a mystery.

  231. See? The tuck rule is another example of a rule that stinks, but the fact is, those refs got it right. Because that’s exactly what happened on that play.

    It was not because it happened to Tom Brady, as people who believe in every conspiracy theory that has been invented keep saying.

    The tuck rule sucks, but as long as the Rules Committee sees no reason to change it, the officials are bound to call it that way.

    That’s exactly the same as what happened in the Packers win over Dallas. We all know the rule sucks, but it was exactly the right call to overturn the ruling on the field.

    Bryant should learn one thing from this. You want to be credited for a catch? Then catch the damned ball without bobbling it or get you daddy Michael Irvin to start a protest to have the rule changed!

  232. skinsfolife said 5 hours ago

    The Ravens should have never been in the playoffs in 2012. Anyone remember the 4th and 29 that was spotted HORRIBLY
    ————————————————————
    True.

  233. The people calling Ray stupid because they don’t understand the point he is making are hilarious.

    He’s saying that if the Patriots lose that game, Brady goes back on the bench and never would have had the career he did. It’s a pretty valid thought. Is he right? I don’t know, I’m not the Patriots coaching staff, but it isn’t stupid to think it could be true.

  234. pftard says: Jan 14, 2015 2:41 PM

    Like him or not.., man makes a point. If the Patriots didn’t get past that Playoff game and the fumble was part of the reason. Drew Bledsoe would have been the starting QB the following season.
    ————————————————————–
    No, he wouldn’t have. According to Pats write Michael Holly, Bloedsoe was about to lose his job to Brady during the season even if he had not been injured by Moe Lewis.

    Brady earned the job, and got the Pats to the playoffs. When Brady turned his ankle in the Steeler game the following week, Beldsoe played, but when they were both healthy for the Super Bowl Brady started.

    No way he would have been benched in favor of Bledsoe the following year.

  235. The Tuck Rule is idiotic, no doubt about it……………but Ray Lewis’s comments are asinine and further justifies why I change the channel whenever he is on ESPN…….

  236. Yeah, forget the fact that the only pro quarterback to play in more championship games is Otto Graham, and that’s only if you count the four in the AAFC from 1946 to 1949. Otherwise, they’ll be tied at six each after this one.

  237. SO….apparently….Ray Lewis…..posted a so called
    ap0logie on some account like Twitter or the like…….ONLY PROBLEM being….when you read it….you will KNOW that “SOMEONE” wrote it for him…..he couldn’t have written those words in a million years…he is toooooo stupid to put together those kinds of sentences.
    What a joke. It’s called Damage Control.

  238. And we only know where Baltimore is thanks to the Wire and the drugs, and we only know who Ray Lewis is due to the white suit that mysteriously vanished,a murder trial and snitching, and let’s not forget the undisclosed payouts to the two murder victims families who were taking him to court at the time, yep, Ray Lewis is a stand up guy. Brady sure has had one lucky career, all based on one tuck, guess he’ll be dining out, or is that tucking in, on that tuck rule for years to come. Rumors are that Gisele only knew he was because of the tuck rule, but she has no idea who Ray lewis is.

  239. dbiowa, we only know where Baltimore is because that’s where they keep the Rays, AKA the convicts.

    Also, Gisele knows who Lewis is, but only recognizes him in the prison jumpsuit she expects him to be wearing. Likewise, only knows who Tom Brady is because someone famous for wearing so little requires any man near here be wearing gold, as in a few Championships.

  240. The real shame is that if the Raiders would have went to the Super Bowl they wouldn’t have traded Gruden away to the Bucs and Gruden couldn’t have destroyed the team that Dungy built.

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