Bird-safe glass fight hovers over Vikings new stadium

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For months, it’s been a curious footnote to the new Vikings stadium:  The venue, which will include extensive amounts of glass, could pose a lethal hazard to birds that fly into it.

The issue has lingered, with those hoping to protect the birds agitating for a design change.  The controversy has now gained considerable traction, to the point where the folks responsible for building the stadium have decided to comment on what it would cost to make the place bird-safe.

Via the Associated Press, the chairperson of the Minnesota Sports Facilities Authority claims that it could cost more than $60 million to use fritted glass, which would be easier for birds to avoid.  Michele Kelm-Helgen also said that the project could be delayed long enough to force the Vikings to spend a third season outdoors at the University of Minnesota.

Bird advocates, who surely believe the costs and delays are being overstated to justify not making the change, claim it would cost only $1 million to switch to fritted glass.

Local manufacturing firm 3M has developed several different films that could deter birds from flying into the glass.  Testing will occur in conjunction with the University of Minnesota; however, the Minnesota Sports Facilities Authority has not committed to adopting that approach.

The challenge continues to be balancing aesthetics and efficiency with bird safety.  But even if it’s ultimately determined that creatures dumb enough to fly into glass don’t merit the expense or the concern, the possibility of a bird splatting into the side of the structure, plunging toward a crowd trying to get inside the building, and eventually becoming impaled on the horns of Helga hat probably won’t be good for business.

124 responses to “Bird-safe glass fight hovers over Vikings new stadium

  1. Now, if they can just find a way to prevent ‘birds’ flying toward the Vikings on the inside.

  2. Hmm, I wonder why bird enthusiasts are up in arms over this yet they remain silent on the issue that Wind Turbines in the US alone are killing 2 million birds & 600,000 bats/yr.

  3. “the possibility of a bird splatting into the side of the structure, plunging toward a crowd trying to get inside the building, and eventually becoming impaled on the horns of Helga hat probably won’t be good for business.”

    Yeah, people are going to not go to the new stadium because birds. We’ve found the thing that will finally end the NFLs dominance. And no, it has not been getting traction. They made a random remark about it to say that it would be harder than the bird advocates are saying. But it still doesn’t matter to 99.9% of Minnesotans.

  4. I don’t care what happens to a bird! Spending more money to protect a bird is just a waste of time and money!

    If birds are not smart enough to avoid the building then they don’t deserve to live!

  5. I imagine that the bird advocates are offering to come up with the money to pay for the additional costs!!

  6. i’ve never understood this argument. all big cities have large buildings downtown made of glass. i don’t see birds flying into them by the thousands. i don’t see the downtown streets of major cities littered with dead birds.

    i’ve never heard the argument that any building will kill birds. ever. i’m a bleeding heart liberal who loves animals far more than people, but this controversy is ridiculous.

  7. I’ve driven by that new stadium a few times in the past month, it’s absolutely huge. And if birds are that dumb enough they can see a gigantic structure from that far away, well we don’t want ’em in our state anyway.

  8. My uncle has a bunch of those bird silhouette stickers on his glass greenhouse and they seem to do the trick of deterring birds of flying into the glass there.

    I can give him the Vikings his number and asked him how much he paid…

  9. Five teams would lose if Minnesota’s stadium didn’t have bird safe glass; The Seahawks, Falcons, Eagles, Cardinals and Ravens.

  10. I wonder about the level of education of some of the posters here.

    Birds don’t fly into windows because they’re dumb. Dumb people think that, but it’s not true.

    Windows do not exist in nature. Birds use their eyes to navigate and if the glass is clear enough, they do not know that it is there.

    The stadium obviously has some clear sections where the glass itself is virtually invisible. That’s what the concern is over… not as some mouth breathers here said…”And if birds are that dumb enough they can see a gigantic structure from that far away, well we don’t want ‘em in our state anyway.”

    In that case, I’d say the birds are far more intelligent than the poster.

  11. Seems to me the Vikings fans could be happy to see Seahawks, Cardinals, Eagles, Ravens, and Falcons getting smacked by the glass.

    Other birds, maybe not.

  12. Birds see the reflections in the glass, not the glass itself. Have some sympathy for a world with no birds. The dumb animal remark has no place in a productive discussion.

  13. Any stadium should be designed in such a way that it doesn’t go out of it’s way to pose an unusually high level of danger to animals of any kind. If this design isn’t safe and respectful of nature, then they should fix the glass. If costs are a concern, then factor that in when initially designing a stadium.

  14. Yet another example of the poor advice the Vikings administration gets when dealing with PR issues. The answer is simple. “We are concerned for the welfare of all the fauna in the area around the stadium. We are listening and will do everything we can to preserve avian life.”

    That’s all you have to say guys. It’s easy. When you make no changes point your finger at the city and say they would not provide the funding.

  15. Sounds we MN has some tree hugger/bird lovers from Seattle living in Gods Country. Go back home and live with the other freaks. The birds will figure it out. If they don’t then its getting rid of idiots. Always all in on that idea. Human or bird.

  16. *** Sounds like MN has some tree hugger/bird lovers from Seattle living in Gods Country. Go back home and live with the other freaks. The birds will figure it out. If they don’t then its getting rid of idiots. Always all in on that idea. Human or bird.

  17. Is every other glass building on earth made of this special glass? Why do these people think that these birds only want to fly into the glass at the Vikings stadium? Never once have a heard or seen a bird fly into the side or top of a building. Nor have I seen large quantities of dead birds lying beside a glass building.

  18. No way the best solution costs anything close to $60M. That’s just a greedy firm seeing “NFL” on the client sheet. Even $1M is too much.

    It’s proven that predator bird statues and silhouettes frighten off most birds. Use some of those AND nest a few actual predator birds on the roof. They’ll fly around and hunt, and there won’t be a problem. This has been done here in Pittsburgh and it works beautifully.

    (Note: Not at Heinz Field, but the tall buildings downtown, and at Pitt.)

  19. One has to wonder why there wasn’t a voice crying about this when the design was annouced and revealed well before construction began and bids for materials accepted.

    Also, I always find it interesting that the people who will scream about the Vikings responsibility to shell out millions of dollars never seem to be willing to offer up the cash themselves. It is always a lot easier to scream about how others need to spend money than to open up your own wallet and take care of the issue you seem to be so concerned about.

  20. OK some of you are idiots. Other buildings were built before this. AS enviromently friendly this country anybody could have seen this coming. Heres the problem. They are building the stadium over the last year. IF they would have designed for this before they started building it wouldnt be an issue. I suppose if you people think that the birds are stupid and deserve it. Does that mean that you want us to extermiate all the stupid people like you. What about the mentally retarded people. Some of them cant fend for themselves. So we just let them die. WHAT A BUNCH OF IDIOTS

  21. @tecmobowl34, you’re 100% correct. Downtown Minneapolis is filled with buildings that are covered in non-protected glass. I worked downtown for several years and don’t remember ever seeing a dead bird. This entire argument is ridiculous.

    Now, who would stand to benefit from making this issue bigger than it is? 3M. I’m willing to bet that 3M is the force behind this non-story.

  22. An 8 story tall, 600 foot long clear box is not something birds generally have to deal with. When they navigate, they can usually see structures, columns and everything else we build. They would even see themselves in the semireflective glass used on a lot of larger buildings and turn away. This isnt something a bird is going to know how to avoid.

    Second. As an architect (albeit a young one) I have a general grasp on the upcharges for glass. By my calculation, the builders are arguing that the glass on this job is overall, between 60-120% of the total project cost which seems a little high in a building with so much steel and concrete.

    Finally, to the people claiming that birds arent hitting the other tall buildings, other tall buildings generally arent vertical columns of only glass. There is generally structure or reflective surfaces to visually break up the building. I just looked at a picture of manhattan and came up with maybe a dozen all glass buildings. And those are in the city center where almost all wildlife is gone. If there are no birds, none can hit the buildings I guess.

    People need to start caring just a little more about things that arent money. Little changes to an ecosystem make big impacts over time.

  23. I get hired to occasionally go into some of our Super Walmart stores to shoot the birds that get trapped inside. Usually go in about 3 am and discreetly shoot them with a pellet gun. Before you tell how cruel it is, imagine buying produce or some new clothes as a gift only to discover poop on it. The birds would starve to death otherwise.

  24. dccowboy says:
    Jan 17, 2015 10:19 AM
    Hmm, I wonder why bird enthusiasts are up in arms over this yet they remain silent on the issue that Wind Turbines in the US alone are killing 2 million birds & 600,000 bats/yr.

    —————-

    ..and cats kill about 3 billion/yr.

  25. Having moved from the south to Minnesota, I can say that Minnesotans have it so good up here that they have the time and energy to complain about things like this.

  26. If you care more about animals the people then you need to be taken out to the desert and left for dead!

    Animals should never come before humans! I can’t believe were our society has gotten to this point!

    These animal rights advocates don’t understand that the stadium does not belong to them so they should not have a say in what goes into the building!

  27. “…..and we are live in Minnesota, under the crimson hue of the Bird’s Eyes, Guts, and Feathers.com Stadium. “

  28. Minnesota and their fans the gift that keeps on giving.

    Minnesota is so fond of the liberals, what would be funny is if this goes to litigation and prevents the finishing in time for the awarded Super Bowl.

  29. The thing to consider is if they don’t install the special glass during construction, and it turns out that birds do start dying around there, it’s going to cost a lot more to replace the glass after the fact. Those PETA folks can be pretty determined.

    It will be ironic if they install the special glass, and the birds start running into it anyways.

  30. this bothers me because it is an issue that the owners and commission have known about for a long time. it is unique because of the placement of the stadium and the mississippi river. i read about this before any construction had started. for how little (in comparison to the entire project) this can be done it should have been a no brainer. now owners and the commission are leveraging time constraints to defend their asinine decision to not do the right thing in the first place.

  31. This is much ado about nothing. Here’s what will happen, the Vikings will move into their new stadium and their play will be so awful that the stench alone will keep the birds away. Case solved!

  32. Maybe birds think it’s stupid that humans pay billions to build massive structures and pay thousands to sit still inside in the cold and watch other men in tights run and jump on each other. Intelligence is the eye of the beholder.

  33. shackdelrio says:
    Jan 17, 2015 10:16 AM
    Just buy like a thousand of those plastic garden owls from Home Depot and have them line the roof of the new stadium. It’ll be a lot cheaper.

    ———

    That is literally the best idea I’ve heard. You could probably even get Home Depot to donate them in exchange for the owls spelling out “Home Depot” as they are arranged in the roof.

  34. Anytime the environmentalists are winning it surprises me. Corporations run rampant over this country. Not that I care too much about birds but I bet the numbers are much closer to the bird lovers figures than the contractors. It is Minneapolis though and as such no amount of effort will make it pretty or improve the sub-par play that symbolizes that hapless organization.

  35. I don’t care what happens to a bird! Spending more money to protect a bird is just a waste of time and money!

    If birds are not smart enough to avoid the building then they don’t deserve to live!
    ————–
    And that’s the problem with people in a nutshell. Our species feels so entitled to this planet! We are evolutionary newborns compared to birds (and many other creatures on this planet) yet we feel like the earth was put here for us to use as we see fit. I blame that on religion. The bible literally entitles the planet to us and many people believe it. So we’re killing the oceans and the rain forests and causing species to go extinct at an unheard of rate and they demonize the people who do care as liberals and tree huggers. As if caring about the environment is a bad thing.

  36. First, our fine neighbors to the west build a stadium with a canvas roof – which over a period of a few years collapses at least five times due to snowfall (imagine – snow in Minnesota!) Then they added piped-in crowd noise to make the place loud. … … Recorded Crowd Noise!?! Finally, the place self-destructs.

    So now, it’s time for a new Viking stadium … so yeah – no more canvas! This time, let’s make it out of glass – yeah … glass! (What could go wrong here?)

    And not only that, but we’ll make it 600 feet high. So, who cleans the bird guts and pigeon droppings off the glass when accidents do happen – 600 feet in the air?

    No problem! Let’s use “Self-Cleaning” glass!

    Again I ask – what could go wrong here??

  37. All you city-dwelling idiots on here who hate birds: cut the crap! We have birds out here who are likely better looking than some of you guys are! And birds DO see reflections…birds fly into our windows all the time…problem for you city folks is you never see birds because what bird would want to be in your neck of the woods…er….urban squalor?

  38. I understand the birds see the window as an opening to fly thru, they don’t know the glass is there because of the reflection, but wouldn’t they at least want to avoid the other bird flying toward them?

  39. Seriously looking forward to the grand opening of Avian Deathtrap Stadium.

    Championship Game weekend, meaningful football games played by important teams, while the rest of the league is just a punchline.

    SkoLOL

  40. Just because you hold deep conservative views doesn’t mean you shouldn’t have some compassion for our feathered friends. And to the poster who thinks that there is no objection to wind turbines apparently doesnt read very much. There are tons of objections and protests over installing turbines. In fact that’s the number one objection followed by eyesore objections.

  41. I’m Minnesota Senator Al Frankenstein,(AL FRANKEN!, SENATOR!) will have a liberal fit and demand the taxpayers pay up to fix the problem. SENATOR AL FRANKEN 😂😃😨

  42. After reading some of these posts the M in Minnesota must stand for Morons.

    I’ve seen birds fly into glass buildings several times in my life and I’m only one person so imagine how often it must happen

    Birds fly into buildings because they either don’t see it which could be because the angle of the sun at that moment or they see another bird in the reflection of the glass of their own species and want to go towards it.

    How can you even design a building in this day in age with all the government regulations without considering environmental issues like this is what surprises me. But then again we are talking Minnesota…

  43. If liberals are the only ones concerned about the preservation of the earth and its inhabitants, count me a proud librul.

    Conservatives seem to think, “quick, let’s use it up before someone else gets to use it”.

    What’s the root word in conservative anyway?

  44. If the stadium were injuring humans, people would be up in arms. A life is a life, we all evolved from the water anyways. We all breath air. We all communicate. Just because something is less intelligent doesn’t mean it’s life is valued less. There are chimpanzees and dolphins with IQ levels and more capable of doing things more than some humans, yet they are still looked down upon as unequal.

    What a backwards society.

  45. Anyone remember the bald eagle almost going extinct due to pesticides? I’m sure farmers were angry, but you shouldn’t be allowed to destroy what makes this country beautiful for a short term gain. That includes wind turbines in blatant flight or migration paths.

  46. I ‘ve worked over 20 years in downtown Minneapolis – the last 10 in the tallest glass building – built in the early 70s when there wasn’t such an issue. I get to the office early. I used to smoke – so I would be outside a lot. I have NEVER seen a dead bird on the sidewalk. NEVER.

    And – for those whining about the cost. That is NOT the issue. The issue is that if fritted glass is used, it will mess up the intended “outdoors” feel of the stadium.

    Why not build it as designed- and if it does kill billions of birds – then, put the coating on the glass? The Audibon Society just makes up it’s numbers, and the masses drink the Kool-Aid.

  47. Let’s look at the numbers to this endeavor. It’s estimated that 1000 birds die in Minneapolis each year from crashes into the current buildings. Going to the extreme assumption that the new stadium will double that number, and that the stadium will exist for 30-years, it should account for 30,000 extra bird deaths.

    At the bottom projected cost of $1 million to add bird-proof glass, then we’re looking at spending $34 per bird to save their lives. And that’s assuming that it will be 100% effective in deterring all collisions – very unlikely. At the other extreme of $60 million building costs, the price goes up to $2,000 per bird. That’s outrageous!

    Even at $34 per bird, it’s far from worth the price. Billions of birds die each year. It would be a much better use of the bird-advocates’ time and resources to find ways to repopulate birds in safer regions.

  48. One other point – I worked in a large and tall building, that looked like a giant mirror. I was in an office when a bird smashed into a window and fell down to the ground.
    So it’s not made up.

    We need to know:
    1. How many deaths the building will cause
    2. How many less will die with the new glass.
    3. Cost

    Ex: say the cost is 25MM and it saves 500 birds a year
    saving 500 birds/year for 25MM = 50K per bird.
    Over 40 years that $125 per bird.

    I’ll bet there are more effective uses for that money that would yield better results for birds.

  49. I just saw on the news that the federal government is getting involved. They are proposing a mandatory bird education program where every bird will be required to attend a six month course. The program is expected to cost 80 billion dollars. The President said he would fast track the legislation to aid his ornithological supporters.
    Of course the teachers union is threatening a national strike if the schools are called charter schools.
    Al Sharpton is planning a march in support. The Vikings are trying to coordinate the march as a halftime event.

  50. And – for those whining about the cost. That is NOT the issue. The issue is that if fritted glass is used, it will mess up the intended “outdoors” feel of the stadium.
    _____________________________

    If they want the “outdoor feel” Maybe they should just have an outdoor stadium? Then they could saved a BUNCH of money on a roof and not worry about birds.

    The Vikings are pioneers, the first team playing indoors, that want to give the illusion that it is outside. They better have a couple more tricks up their sleeve to convince fans to go pay a ton of money to watch a team struggling to be .500.

  51. Please people, let’s put aside our differences on this issue and take a moment to at least agree on the fact that the Minnesota Vikings are a complete train wreck on and off the field.

    Thank you and skoLOL.

  52. Them hillbillies in minnehaha will be lining up to get their dead pigeons for the tailgate cook off.

  53. So this is why they are going to have non-marked cops with concealed weapons. To shoot the birds before they hit the windows. Progressive thinking.

  54. Daddy I’m glad our stadium isn’t built like this one. I would never finish cleaning all that glass.

    ~Steven Jones

  55. The Minnesota Vikings…..
    … Back in the playoffs by the 23rd century
    … Lamest team in all of pro sports
    … Continually jealous of the Green & Gold
    … Great for the players because their lockers are always cleaned out by New Years…

    Still
    Keep
    On
    Losing…… SKOL!!

  56. Vikes knew this was an issue from the very beginning and chose to ignore it …now its likely they will have to face the PR nightmare of pics of 100’s of dead birds littering their new stadium on game day posted all over social media….morons

  57. There is zero evidence that this facility will result in any large number of bird strikes. Cities have large glass structures that reflect the sky and surroundings and show no evidence of such problems as these fanatics suggest nor do any studies show this problem to exist in any similar structures. These people have a solution in search of a problem.

  58. Liberal; “I didn’t know that birds are stupid?”
    Conservative; “Birds aren’t stupid. It’s people who are stupid.”
    Liberal; “Are conservatives people?”
    Consecutive; “Yes.”

  59. In the summer birds fly into my office window several times a month, but they usually regain their flight and fly around the building. Its not like flocks of birds are going to be migrating through the 2 block area that makes up the stadium, thereby eliminating dozens of species from the face of the earth. I think this whole this is ludicrous.

  60. Not a difficult issue to address as they can adjust the lighting to ensure that the birds flying along the Mississippi corridor don’t hit the glass. The bird freaks should be more worried about the loss of habitat or folks that leave their cats out at night, which have and will result in the loss of about 1,000% more birds.

    This is nothing but an attention grab and an opportunity for Packer fans to be distracted from their upcoming loss to a bird-related team.

  61. I really like TCF bank stadium and wish they would just stay there instead of spending all this money. Home games in December were a huge advantage for the Vikings at the old Met… under Bud Grant they were 19-7 at home in December and January in the Met.

    And here they were 2-0 this year, 3-0 if you count the game on the last day of December.

    I wouldn’t mind another year outdoors…

  62. Will the bird safe glass prevent the Vikings from choking in the playoffs for an NFL record 28th time? No other team has had as many chances with nothing to show for it!!

  63. obviously its worth a little more of the fat cat or state/city money to make it bird safe….florio’s comment about animals dumb enough may not be deserving to live is typical of him trying to be sarcastic/funny but missing badly.

  64. its just sad that ariani1985 no matter the topic he has to mention the Packers. very sad for sure ,I think under Obamba care in Minnesota you can get help for Packer obsession.

  65. radar8 says:
    Jan 17, 2015 10:44 AM

    I wonder about the level of education of some of the posters here.

    Birds don’t fly into windows because they’re dumb. Dumb people think that, but it’s not true.

    Windows do not exist in nature. Birds use their eyes to navigate and if the glass is clear enough, they do not know that it is there.

    The stadium obviously has some clear sections where the glass itself is virtually invisible. That’s what the concern is over… not as some mouth breathers here said…”And if birds are that dumb enough they can see a gigantic structure from that far away, well we don’t want ‘em in our state anyway.”

    In that case, I’d say the birds are far more intelligent than the poster.
    ——————————————–
    ^ Signed by Dr Doolittle.

    LOL. Sorry I just couldn’t resist.

  66. realnflmaster says:
    Jan 17, 2015 12:54 PM

    If the stadium were injuring humans, people would be up in arms. A life is a life, we all evolved from the water anyways. We all breath air. We all communicate. Just because something is less intelligent doesn’t mean it’s life is valued less. There are chimpanzees and dolphins with IQ levels and more capable of doing things more than some humans, yet they are still looked down upon as unequal.

    What a backwards society.
    ——————————————–
    Sorry but I don’t agree with this society being backwards. Although your points of intelligence may be true I would counter that with, when dolphins or chimps are able to build buildings, make money, add to the economy then maybe I would agree with your logic. Until then, humans on the whole are the superior beings on earth. May not be the most intelligent or strongest but certainly this is not a backward society. Do you really think the dolphins or chimps worry humans looking down on them? This is a moot point in my opinion.

    I’m not saying animals should be forgotten about however, to spend millions to save a few birds is ludicrous in my opinion. What about all the other buildings all over the world with this issue? Should they all put money into saving the birds? If an NFL team has to then so should everyone else.

    For once I will agree with one of the Packer fans above. I would rather MN spend the money on making their bridges and roadways more safe. Not put it into saving a few birds.

  67. I’m pretty sure they can choose glass which also has energy saving features in addition to preventing birds from running into it. There are all sorts “fritted” glass types that offer solar reflecting or capturing benefits which would likely have the side-effect of also being bird safe.

  68. Dccowboy said, “Hmm, I wonder why bird enthusiasts are up in arms over this yet they remain silent on the issue that Wind Turbines in the US alone are killing 2 million birds & 600,000 bats/yr.”
    DC, Most bird watchers ARE up in arms over it! I’ve been fighting the turbines for years. Unfortunately, I do not have a voice! At least we won the battle over turbines at Black Swamp in Ohio. Look it up. You’ll see we are fighting. BTW, no studies have ever been done regarding kill numbers at turbines, (other than Golden Eagles at Altamont Pass) but I’m sure the number is MUCH higher than what you quoted. Most wind farms are inaccessible, so we just can’t prove it!

    And to tecmobowl; you don’t understand the argument because you haven’t done the research. Buildings kill MILLIONS of birds each year. It takes teams of people to clean up the carcasses often during peak migration periods. They are done with the cleaning before you ever get out of bed. Search FLAP. (Fatal Light Awareness Program) That’s a starting point to learn more.

  69. I don’t care how many birds die! I/we should not have to change my life to make theirs better! Remember people run this planet, it’s not the other way around!

    Stop acting like birds are more important than they really are!

    People come first!

  70. Briiaann73, It’s not a people vs. birds issue! It a football stadium vs. the lives of migrating birds that have navigated the skies for a million years, returning to the north each spring to provide beneficial insect control, forest replanting, and beautiful song to the forests of North America for us all to enjoy and benefit from.

    You can still have football, but birds don’t need to die for it! Glass, especially glass of that size, has no place in nature…anywhere. Especially along a major migration route! Unless you’re a bird watcher, you have no clue what’s at stake here! Build your stadium, but without reflective glass! No reason why we can’t coexist on this planet (that is to be shared,) not overtaken!

  71. In order us to coexist we either have to spend way to much money or we as humans have to change our life style!

    Neither one am I in favor of! People need to stop putting animals on a higher priority then people!

    As for what’s at stake, I really don’t care and neither should you! But you do care so you can put off this act like animals do really matter!

    Well they don’t, animals were put on this earth for two reasons 1 to do work and 2 so we can eat!

  72. One more thing if I was a bird watcher then I would of already shot myself! There’s really no good reason for a normal human being to ever take time out of their day to watch birds!

  73. Vikings should get smart and agree to install the new glass after the first year of operation at their own cost. They could recycle the clear glass, get it “fritted”, and re-install it. Then they won’t have to pay Davis-Bacon wage rates on the work and save 50% on the cost of installing the glass. Sure the glass reprocessing may cost a little bit, but I think an extra year outdoors would lead to more lost revenue than this minor project.

    Then the original project will get done on time and eventually appease the bird protesters. Plus they can then promote the value of recycling.

    But maybe my idea is too smart for the NFL and the state of MN? Wait, yes it is too smart.

  74. This.

    This is what people are talking about when the Minnesota Vikings are the topic.

    Not football.

    Why?

    Because the Minnesota Vikings are a pitiful, laughing stock of a franchise.

    The Packers may have just suffered the worst loss in the history of the franchise, but we’re still not as low as the vikings, or their fair-weather fans.

  75. I don’t get to Minnesota very often but, when I’ve been there it seemed like a first-class state. The citizens are nice, businesses are usually first rate, and the geography is breathtaking. I’ve always been treated fairly, and I’m just a lowly truck driver.

    So, while I know 10 mill, 30 mill, or 60 mill is no chump change, especially on the taxpayers, why not do the new stadium right? This will be the showplace of the Twin Cities for many years to come.

    Come on Minnesotans, it’s cheaper to get it done now, rather than “fixing it” later.

  76. The IDS tower has MORE GLASS than the proposed new Vikings stadium, and theres no piles of dead birds at its base. Some people just have too much time on their hands and seem to do or so anything to posture themselves as “superior” to us ordinary people.

  77. The glass is supposed to be an architecturally creative statement. Leave it alone. We eat a million chickens every day. Whats a few birds, even though i doubt even a dozen will fall before they learn (like crows).

  78. I’m wondering why the photo in this story shows a huge flock of pigeons, as though those are the birds us bird watchers are concerned about. It is NOT pigeons we are worried about!

    It’s migrant songbirds that fill our forests, fields, meadows and marshes all spring and summer with beauty and song. Hundreds of thousands of these birds use the Mississippi Flyway as they travel back and forth from the US and Canada and the tropics.

    If you’ve never gone bird watching, then you are missing the greatest wildlife spectacle on earth that happens twice a year!

    Warblers, vireos, buntings, tanagers, grosbeaks, orioles, thrushes, flycatchers, cuckoos and so many more will be in danger if they get near all that glass. We CANNOT let that happen!

  79. First off no story is complete without queen bay trolls.
    Secondly only in Minnesota do they care about birds that might be flying into the stadium.

  80. I think we should just kill all of the birds then we won’t have to worry about them killing themselves!

    I could care less about how many birds die because of this!

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