Rooney rattles the legal sword at Kroenke over Rams move

AP

At a time when Rams owner Stan Kroenke is creating the impression that he’ll move the franchise with or without the blessing of his business partners (and when Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has said Kroenke can do it), the NFL has begun to push back. Somewhat aggressively.

Steelers owner Art Rooney II, chairman of the NFL’s stadium committee, was as blunt as any Rooney ever is when explaining to Sam Farmer of the Los Angeles Times that the league believes Kroenke can’t do whatever he wants when it comes to relocating the Rams.

“I think we’re comfortable that we could stop a team legally from moving if it didn’t go through the process,” Rooney said. That process ultimately consists of 24 owner votes approving the move, which means that only nine owners can block relocation.

Rooney specifically went on the record with Farmer in order to further undo damage potentially done by Jerry’s Sunday comments to the New York Times — comments that were largely overlooked and ignored given the story lines emerging from the outcome of his team’s game against the Packers.

“I don’t agree with Jerry on that point,” Rooney told Farmer. “The majority view is that there’s a process the teams are going to have to go through, and I think everybody understands that in terms of the teams that may be interested, I expect that the process will be observed, and hopefully it will be an orderly process.”

The “majority view” of the league’s owners, however, would yield to the conclusion of a federal judge applying fairly basic principles of antitrust law.

Unless the antitrust laws have fundamentally changed since the last time the NFL tried to legally stop a team from moving to Los Angeles, that comfort could be misplaced. The argument would be fairly straightforward; the NFL consists of 32 independent businesses that can’t work together to place restrictions on the ability of any one of those independent businesses to take care of its own business, such as the selection of the place where the business will do business.

But the league, which likes to get its way even when applicable law would seem to suggest it won’t, wants to control the process, for multiple reasons. The league wants to be sure that the team is moving to a suitable stadium. The league wants to be sure that all efforts have been made to keep the team where it currently is (by, for example, squeezing as much money out of the taxpayer coffers as possible). Perhaps most importantly, the league wants to be sure that no one tries to move, and fails.

“We don’t want to have a team that gets itself in a situation where it has to file an application and go through a process where at the end of the day it could wind up being a lame duck, or even worse, having to go back to a city it attempted to move from,” Rooney told Farmer.

That’s a telling statement. For starters, it means that the approval process happens behind the scenes, with a team that gets the blessing in the back room to officially apply for relocation process has been guaranteed to get the blessing to move. It also unintentionally confirms the accuracy of Jerry Jones’ belief that teams can move absent the consent of at least 24 total owners, since the NFL doesn’t want a team to stay in a market that an owner has tried and failed to leave.

On that specific point, the damage already has been done. Kroenke, who said nothing about his intentions for years, suddenly announced that he’ll be building a stadium in Los Angeles. At that moment, the Rams became a lame duck in St. Louis. And if the NFL tries to keep him from moving, Kroenke will have to go back to a city where he attempted to move from.

None of that will matter in the end. The league will huff and puff, but Kroenke ultimately will be able to blow his house down in St. Louis.  He has the money to wage a dream-team legal battle with the league, and the legal principles and precedents seem to be on his side. If he wants to move, the only question will be how hard the NFL will try stop it from happening before crying, “Uncle.”

Plenty of other owners may not like that, but that’s one of the things that can happen as franchise values continue to go through the roof, making teams purchasable by obscenely rich folks who never will replace a lifetime of me-first with league-first.

102 responses to “Rooney rattles the legal sword at Kroenke over Rams move

  1. Billionaires threatening other billionaires with legalese is akin to chimps throwing feces at each other. Have at it, boy$.

  2. But doesn’t Goodell have the ultimate nuclear option? “If you move to L.A. without the NFL’s permission, we’ll drop you from the league.” No antitrust issue there. Of course they wouldn’t actually have to play that card; there’s a saying in the chess world, “The threat is stronger than its execution.”

  3. Now I know where their front running fans get their sense of entitlement.. It’s not your money or you team..who does this heir think he is…

  4. Maybe the arrogant NFL should stop insisting that they know what people want. 18-game seasons, expanded playoffs, NFL football in London (I have a friend that lives in London..no one cares. Literally no one), and a franchise in LA. How many bites at the apple does LA get? Five? Ten? As many as it takes until the league is right? Just leave things well enough alone. And if one of the billionaire owners wants a stadium, let him pay for it.

  5. The Rams will go back to L.A. Just a matter of when. Kronke has all those Wal-Mart billions to get his way.

  6. From the sound of things it seems to be that if st louis builds the new stadium then the rams will stay in st. Louis. If the stadium plan fails then they will move to l.a. What if both stadium plans fail?

  7. Meh. My take is that this is just a play written and directed by the owners to refresh the “we’ll move your franchise to LA if you don’t give us a good deal for a stadium in your town” theme.

    St. Louis has a site selected for a new stadium north of The Arch. Rams in need of leverage so they’re doubling down on this drama.

  8. Plain and simple: let Kroenke move the Rams, and let the NFL schedule the Rams for only 3 games within the state of California, or no schedule at all.

    Also, the NFL should prohibit any team from leaving a city which coughed up tax dollars for the building of a stadium, until all tax money is repaid to the taxed public.

  9. What a charade. The federal government should seize ownership of the NFL through eminent domain. That way, the billions generated annually by this business that basically sells itself by virtue of being an awesome sport will contribute in relieving our nation’s debt and help revive cities like Detroit. Much better than it going straight into the pockets of these entitled silver spoon scumsuckers.

  10. …the league has dragged its feet long enough with putting a team in LA. I applaud Kronke for taking the market…that was his intentions when he bought the team and the NFL knew it. St louis is a small market and they dont want to do what they had to do to keep them. They deserve to lose them.

  11. Stan Kroenke can buy Rooney 10 times over. The league bent its own rules to accommodate the Steeler ownership group(which is a joke).

    That said, the league will lose in court if it tries to block Stan from moving to L.A.. Serious antitrust issues will raised that the league does NOT want brought up.

    Stan wants his team in L.A. because he can own his own stadium there, and make much more money there.
    No way in hell a court will block him, it would be wise for the league to silence itself on this one

  12. Kroenke should just explain it’s a move intended to locate him closer to his place of worship. As James Harrison knows, the Rooneys will accept just about any action that’s tied to religion.

  13. If these teams r independent “businesses” then why the revenue sharing, if that was the case then NE, GB, SEA etc. sure as hell wouldn’t b sharing w/ the rams….it should b the same as having branches of a store, they all r separate, but corporately r all 1 Company

  14. “What if both stadium plans fail?”

    And what if neither does? If St. Louis builds him a stadium (they should not), how will he spin it if he moves the team? St. Louis is going to be fine either way.

  15. Rooney is a joke. A few owners think they can control and get whatever they want. Rooney. Mara. Kraft. Screw them. I’m sure the rams will be levied with salary cap and draft penalties for moving. Then the Rams can go the antitrust route. Go Rams.

  16. Ironic that the people who are shopping at Walmart are indirectly funding this NFL showdown are the ones who can’t afford to go to the games regardless of what city the team ends up in.

  17. Allow me to boil this down for the unwashed masses. Stan, if YOUR move your team to a stadium built with YOUR own money it will make it harder for the rest of us billionaires to become multibillionaires through public welfare financing OUR stadiums. Yup, setting a bad precedent Stan.

  18. Sometimes these guys get carried away. If Kroenke actually builds a stadium, the NFL will be on the hook for hundreds of millions if they attempt to keep him from using it. I love these PFT trolls. First they howl that the NFL forces communities to build stadiums and now they are howling because Kroenke wants to build his own. If he has the wherewithal to do his own thing, then they should let him do it. Remember that the Browns moved to Baltimore not very long ago. If the league could have stopped them, it would have. It couldn’t, they didn’t and they won’t.

  19. Now I know where their front running fans get their sense of entitlement.. It’s not your money or you team..who does this heir think he is…

    Typical response from one of the many Steeler haters posting here. Don’t let your hatred cloud your thinking troll. Rooney is speaking for the league you moron…….not just the Steelers. Jealousy is fuel for the emotionally weak….running low on fuel?

  20. Wouldn’t it be funny if, after already alienating the people of St. Louis, Kroenke also is unable to make the move back to Los Angeles and they have to go to a brand new, much lower profile, city? “Ladies and gentlemen … these are your Walla Walla Rams?”

  21. I love how these guys who are billionaires want the city and the tax payers to build them stadiums to play their game in and use the old “if you don’t build it and pay for it then we’ll move to another city” card. Look fans will come to the games and your going to make your money however if you like to insist that you are a private business then you have to stop asking for tax payers to build your place of business, if you want the tax payers to pay for it then make the team a public company so people can buy stock in it and have say in it’s operations!

  22. Let’s not forget that the NFL is officially a ‘non-profit’ organization, and pays no taxes. Do they REALLY want to drag all this into a Federal court which might wind up reviewing their finances and tax status?

  23. “The “majority view” of the league’s owners, however, would yield to the conclusion of a federal judge applying fairly basic principles of antitrust law.”

    Can a federal judge force NFL teams to schedule games vs the Rams?

  24. He can go and they can’t stop him. We’ve been thru this.

    Be prepared however, Rams, to lead the league in penalties for a few decades.

  25. This is only going to get more and more interesting. You have to feel for the folks in Missouri as they’re the ones who are/will continue to suffer because of a poor deal that was made to lure the Rams years ago. However, if Kroenke is willing to develop & build his own LA stadium there’s really not much the NFL can do. The league will never admit it, but fans don’t matter here; it’s the phony act that fans matter (“you can’t rip a team from its community”) and the fact that when (not if) the Rams move LA will no serve as a threat to extort other NFL cities in to paying for a new stadium.

  26. More hot air from Rooney and he makes as much sense as his other initiative; therefore he may as well have said that Kroenke has to interview cities like Salt Lake City, Albuquerque and Spokane before choosing LA.

    As others have said, best for the NFL to wise up and keep quiet on this.

  27. The legal analysis is pretty far off. The NFL, MLB, NHL, etc all have geographic territories that have been agreed on. This insures owners who are making massive investments have some certainty that a new team won’t pop up in their bubble, thereby eating into/destroying their profits.

    If the Rams were to move to LA, this would likely infringe on the Chargers territory, which is why votes from the owners are required.

    There are a few other issues, but I just want to point out the legal analysis above is much more of an opinion than a factually correct article.

  28. One of the best PFT features through the years are these legal breakdowns by Florio.

    Curious about one aspect to the “business” definition. The 32 NFL franchises all share revenue, work & schedule together, they literally write their own rules and conditions of play. Off the field, they compete collectively against other sports and entertainments; not each other. They’re a unique corporate animal in the word of business.

    How on earth could Kroenke do whatever he wants when his 31 business partners have literally given him money in exchange for a 1/32nd part of that?

    Not saying Kroenke won’t try –Florio’s right that billionaires tend to do what they want– but all that seems to make Rooney’s position stronger than is suggested in the article.

  29. Hey Mr. Rooney. How is the extension of Kroenke’s violation of the league’s cross-ownership rule going? Must be tough to sell those Denver franchises in only four years, huh? NFL is a “paper tiger” with regard to relocation rules.

  30. The WalMart Rams are moving to LA!

    You can BET on it!!!

    If the NFL and Looney Rooney think they can stop this, count the nimber of LA congreemen who will demand a real AntiTrust investigation, demand the NFL lose their no tax status, and vote against any pro NFL legislation. Looney Rooney and arrogant owners lile him plus the NFL have no guts when it comes to this type of showdown.

  31. Based on some of the comments I see here not too many of you actually know the history of this team.

    The Rams started in Cleveland in 1936, using Fordham University’s team nickname, as a member of the American Football League. They joined the NFL the next year. Bob Hope was a co-owner for many years.

    After several losing seasons the team finally found success in 1945, winning the title and then moving to L.A. the following year in order to make room for the Cleveland Browns of the All-American Football Conference. The Rams remain the only NFL team to ever move out of town the season after winning the championship.

    At the time of the move to L.A. there were no African-Americans permitted to play in the league. The commissioners of the L.A. Coliseum approved the deal on the condition that the team become racially integrated. The first two black players in the NFL (post WWII) were Kenny Washington and Woody Strode of UCLA.

    In 1948 halfback Fred Gehrke painted horns on the teams’ helmets, the first modern helmet emblem in the NFL. Many in L.A., including former players like Fred Dryer, would be bitter when that L.A. emblem was taken to St. Louis.

    The Rams occupied the Coliseum for more than 30 years, moving south to Anaheim in 1980. This was the year after owner Carroll Rosenbloom died. 1979 was the only time the Rams ever made it to a Super Bowl in their time in Southern California.

    The Rams moved away from L.A. primarily because the Coliseum was difficult to sell out. Not because fans wouldn’t come, but because 90,000 tickets was a lot to sell every home game in that time. In addition, new NFL commissioner Pete Rozell had recently created the infamous “black-out” rule: A game that didn’t sell out 72 hours in advance couldn’t be broadcast locally.

    The team faded badly in the early 90’s, with Rosenbloom’s widow, Georgia Frontiere, blaming her own front-office management for the stadium situation in Orange County. Due to at least three suitable stadiums in Southern California, neither county was going to build a taxpayer-financed place just for the Rams.

    Frontiere at first attempted to move the team to Baltimore, an ironic turn of events in that her late husband had traded the Colts (pre-Indianapolis) to Robert Irsay for the Rams.

    When the Baltimore move failed Frontiere then chose to move the team to her hometown, St. Louis. Several NFL owners (Buffalo Bills, New York Jets, New York Giants, Washington Redskins, Arizona Cardinals, and the Minnesota Vikings) voted to block the move on the grounds that Frontiere had badly mismanaged the team. When Frontiere threatened to sue the league it caved.

    St. Louis had lost the Cardinals to Phoenix in large part because they refused to build the team a new stadium. At the time of the Rams’ move the city had already begun construction on the Edward Jones Dome in order to lure another team. The city subsequently agreed to several guarantees in order to land the Rams, including maintaining the stadium in the top 25% of NFL arenas in reference to luxury boxes, amenities, etc. Frontiere waived that requirement in 2005 in return for a cash penalty.

    The Raiders moved into the Coliseum in 1982, two years after the Rams had gone to Orange County. Al Davis returned his team to Oakland in 1994. So the Rams have been gone from the actual Los Angeles market since 1980, thirty five years ago this year. The city of L.A. has been without an NFL team for 21 years.

    Precedent, including with the Rams team itself, has shown that NFL owners can pretty much move a team anywhere they wish. Whenever the league attempts to block a move the owner merely has to threaten a lawsuit to get his/her way. Al Davis did it to get to L.A. after Georgia Frontiere did it to get out of L.A.

    If Stan Kroenke wants to build his own stadium in L.A., and move the Rams into it, I don’t see much legal standing for the NFL to block it. In fact I would suggest that the NFL is simply blustering when it says it would block the move in order to be able to say to St. Louis that it tried. It would then require St. Louis to upgrade its current facilities or build a new stadium in order to qualify for another team.

    Moving the Rams out of the nation’s #2 media market for the #18 market was a poor choice in 1980. The NFL would most likely be very quietly pleased to see that reversed.

  32. LA has historically been a not very NFL friendly city i.e. Rams and Raiders. Now with the huge latino population it will be even worse. Maybe a soccer team would work for Korenke?

  33. Pay attention to your own team Rooney. You are a Big Ben injury away from 3-13

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    Just a brilliant observation..my my. What team wouldn’t end up with the loss of a franchise QB so you post is just a troll trolling Steeler hate…..get a new hobby.

  34. This is yet another edition of “the grass is always greener.” One city doesn’t give enough soft warm fuzzies (sweetheart deals) to the owner, so he takes his toy to a place that previously lost a team. Some other team that isn’t feeling enough “love” (read: Taxpayer money) decides to move to the city that other team just moved from. I’ll make a prediction: The Rams will move to LA, and shortly thereafter, the Jaguars will be parked in St. Louis. In about 10 years, the Rams will be looking to move again.

    If the NFL is really all that concerned about it, what they should do is rewrite their rules concerning ownership, and allow the Green Bay model for the rest of the league. Fans want to keep their team? Buy it. Then it doesn’t have to move, and let’s face it, Green Bay has been a pretty successful franchise. Particularly compared to the single owner ones.

  35. I do have to give Roger credit. I have always questioned why Roger
    had to be out in front on all. He just loved to be the media face of
    The NFL. Since the Rice debacle his appearances have seemed to
    lessen. In cases like Rice and Peterson why not just call up the owner
    and have him do the dirty work? Remember how the Steelers handled
    Roethlisberger?
    So what better person to investigate you? What better person organization or family to be your mouthpiece? Could it be Dan and Art Rooney? Remember when Dan Rooney’s brothers were forced to
    sell their shares in the Steelers it was Roger who informed them that even though they could sell their shares for millions more to a wall
    street billionaire,the NFL owners had the say as to the structure of
    the future Steeler organization . It was then made clear that the
    NFL would not approve any sale without Dan and Art in charge.
    The brothers took one for the team! Now Art will take it for Roger!

  36. Many people don’t know this but the Rooneys were the only owners (1/32) who voted against the Browns moving to Baltimore. Browns fans know this and respect them for their support.

  37. babyjunkie says: Jan 17, 2015 10:22 AM

    I understand its intended purpose, but the Rooney Rule fails and is a farsical rule. It’s decades behind its time.

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    I, too, used to think that but look at the difference on the sidelines since the Rooney Rule.

    Whether it has run its course or not, I don’t know, but it has definitely made a difference.

  38. A lot of you laugh at the Packers’ “fake stock” but it sure is nice that those fans that want to contribute towards stadium upgrades are allowed to, while those citizens that don’t want to are not forced into it via higher taxes.

    It’s also nice knowing that the team can never and will never move. Us Packer fans are not hostages to some greedy billionaire and we never will be. unlike the rest of you. So laugh it up, boys n’ girls. We can take it.

  39. 700Levelvet – you are simply a blind person!! He is not front running. He is is looking out for the team, in this case the rams, the city of St Louis, the league which he is a part of and does not want to be embarrassed by these types of poor business practices. I guess you failed to read the article especially the part about a lame duck decision which is sort of what you did with your hip pocket attack comment – dude go educate yourself.

  40. Al Davis already moved a team to L.A without asking for permission from the owners. And he won in court too. Kroenke could move, and there wouldn’t be a darn thing the other owners could do to stop it.

  41. The Rooneys are part of the original school of owners who still respect cooperation and teamwork. It’s the same attitude that put the TV revenue-share through. I respect that and it’s helped the league.
    It’s not a certainty the new breed of billionaire owners would have done anything outside of their own interests.

  42. The NFL should make Jerry Jones pay part of the relocation fee. That old bugger represents the absolute worst of the NFL. Good for the Rooneys.

  43. The Rooneys helped keep the Patriots in greater Boston. My guess is that Robert Kraft will support them on this one. This case is somewhat different because so many people believe the Rams should go “home” to LA. It was selfishness of a former Rams owner that put LA and the league in this situation 20 years ago.

  44. Rooney isn’t trying to stop Kroenke from moving the Rams. He’s just doing damage control after Jones’s comments. The league has wanted a team in L.A. for years–even though football keeps failing in that market. But there’s a process for moving a team. When you join a league, you follow the membership rules. It was cooperation among old-school team owners like the Rooneys that made the league so profitable. The new generation of billionaire egomaniacs like Kroenke are as likely to drive the whole thing over a cliff while arguing about who’s going to take the wheel.

  45. Rooney isn’t trying to stop Kroenke from moving the Rams. He’s just doing damage control after Jones’s comments. The league has wanted a team in L.A. for years–even though football keeps failing in that market. But there’s a process for moving a team. When you join a league, you follow the membership rules. It was cooperation among old-school team owners like the Rooneys that made the league so profitable. The new generation of billionaire egomaniacs like Kroenke are as likely to drive the whole thing over a cliff while arguing about who’s going to take the wheel.

  46. You can see why the name Rooney is respected and Jones is ridiculed. I’m sure they both know Kroenke can move, but Rooney takes the professional and fan friendly approach that won’t alienate anyone while Jerry basically says that Stan has money and can do anything he wants. Very telling.

  47. how did that work out for ya when the Raiders left for LA??? Hmmmmm…wanna say Al beat the NFL in court. Since then Cleveland left for Baltimore, Houston left for Tennessee, Oakland returned to oakland and the Rams left LA for St. louis…The Saints almost left for San Antonio but the league was able to force Benson into staying in New Orleans with a stadium that was damaged by Katrina. Remember the black out in the super bowl?? Oh and Buffalo is eyeing a move to Toronto. So i think the league has zero leverage

  48. The Cleveland Browns moved and became the Baltimore Ravens. The Chicago/St. Louis/Arizona Cardinals have moved multiple times. So have the LA/Anaheim/St. Louis Rams and the Oakland/LA/Oakland Raiders.

    And, FWIW, the Raiders moved was unanimously rejected by the other owners of the NFL 22-0 against with 5 abstaining. And the Courts said ‘tough luck NFL.’

    And when Davis moved the Raiders back… The NFL just kept its collective mouths shut.

  49. The Rams already been approved for relocation. Jerry just forgot not to make it public, till after the formality vote was made public. The Rams will be in Los Angeles in 20 16 . with Walmart Stadium ready for business @ the old Hollywood Race Track location in 2019, just in time to host Super Bowl 5 4. I think the Raiders / Chargers will move into St. Louis new stadium on the Riverfont.

  50. If Kroenke builds a stadium in LA and the league somehow manages to block him from moving the Rams, you can bet that the NFL will want to play Super Bowls and Pro Bowls in that stadium. And to spite them Kroenke should deny them the privilege.

  51. The Rooneys are at an all time low for respect in this country, and league.

    The class of that family died with their elders.

    You really don’t have a clue about what you are talking about do you? Any fool can come on here and say something moronic…..but most don’t. The Arooney family is well respect by knowledgeable fans , but obviously not the lunatic fringe.

  52. muslimponder says: Jan 17, 2015 9:34 AM

    What a charade. The federal government should seize ownership of the NFL through eminent domain. That way, the billions generated annually by this business that basically sells itself by virtue of being an awesome sport will contribute in relieving our nation’s debt and help revive cities like Detroit. Much better than it going straight into the pockets of these entitled silver spoon scumsuckers.

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    I agree that the government should take over. I love the way the government runs the DMV and post office and would no doubt run the NFL with all of that great government competency and service that we all know and love.

  53. Look at your history book Rooney. Pete Rozelle and the owners told Al Davis he couldn’t move from Oakland to LA in 1982? He did it anyway, and won when the league tried to sue him. He stayed in LA LA land till 1995 and came back to Oakland with the league standing by and watching. Precedent has already been set by the Maverick.

  54. But, if that happens, look for the league to shaft the Rams with terrible penalties and officiating in games as they did to the Raiders for decades until the season after Al Davis’ passing.

  55. Stan is already in trouble with the other owners because he has failed to get his other sports franchises out of his name like he agreed. So he is in violation of the NFL bi-laws. If St. Louis builds another stadium that the NFL stadium committee agrees it meets or exceeds the conditions of the contract between St Louis and the Rams and Big Stan moves them anyway it could be a win fall for St Louis and the state of Missouri, or the NFL could move another team in there to stop a long and embarrassing court battle.

  56. Rooney is angry because Kroenke didn’t consider an African city before deciding on LA. Gotta follow the rules Stan.

  57. If it wasn’t for the Rooneys and the Mara ‘ s most of you wouldn’t even have teams to root for.

  58. Kroenke is sick of 10,000 – 15,000 fans per game dressed up as empty seats in STL. “Awfulfootballcity

  59. Well you can’t blame Rooney for taking the Leagues side. His family has certainly profited by some very questionable calls on the field that the league has defended or blatantly called in error on their behalf.

  60. @ professor fate:
    The Raiders moved into the Coliseum in 1982, two years after the Rams had gone to Orange County. Al Davis returned his team to Oakland in 1994. So the Rams have been gone from the actual Los Angeles market since 1980, thirty five years ago this year. The city of L.A. has been without an NFL team for 21 years….
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    I agree with much of what you said about the way that Bidwell pulled the Cardinals and Frontierre moved the Rams to LA, but referencing the above about LA being w/out a team for 21 yrs is either a stretch or a flat out lie. So I guess then the cities of New York, Dallas and San Francisco don’t really have teams either because they don’t have a stadium at their specific cities that they represent? FCOL, the Jets/Giants play in friggin’ Jersey. Trying to play LA as the victim in anything besides traffic, crime and earthquakes is a waste of time. You don’t have a football team? You have TWO of every other major team sport
    On another note, hopefully the Rams players Laurinitis, Long, Austin, etc are paying attention… Going from their cushy 6% MO state income tax to the wallet gouging 13.6% is gonna be a reality slap not to mention the 7.5% sales tax vs. 4.25 in MO… BTW it don’t matter what tax rate you’re in, your agent will still require their 10%. Enjoy the ride in the City of (fallen) Angels.

  61. The NFL (Goddell and his stooge owners) love to talk tough and like the NCAA end up with their tail tucked between their legs when it’s all said and done. There is nothing they can do to stop this move from happening. You’d think they would have learned their lesson with Al Davis when the courts sided with him. It’ll be the same thing in this case.

  62. Didn’t Al Davis already settle this?? Considering that precedent, what legal sword can he be rattling?

  63. I believe the Rams are as good as gone, and I’m happy about it for the simple fact that taxpayers should not be the ones paying for a billionaire’s toy. If Stan and his partners are building a stadium in Inglewood without public money, how can anyone be against that?

    The angle that intrigues me more is the chess game between the Chargers and Raiders. I have no doubt that Los Angeles can support two teams, but not three.

    In the recent Saturday One-Liners post, there was a link to the San Diego stadium situation, and it doesn’t look good at all. Mark Davis has already met with the leaders of San Antonio about possibly moving the Raiders to Texas – which I think is just posturing, by the way.

    In any case, if neither the Raiders nor Chargers can get new stadiums, and the Rams are already in L.A, one of them is going to be in big trouble when the City of Angels can’t be used as a threat any longer.

    Chargers –> Los Angeles
    Raiders –> San Antonio.
    or
    Raiders –> Los Angeles
    Chargers –> ???

  64. He should have every right to move to LA, but only if he pays for the stadium himself.

    I hope he does screw it up for the rest of the billionaire owners.

  65. autumnwind999 says:
    Jan 17, 2015 5:37 PM
    But, if that happens, look for the league to shaft the Rams with terrible penalties and officiating in games as they did to the Raiders for decades until the season after Al Davis’ passing.

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    Not sure that would fly this time around. The expansion of the internet would make that hard.

    More importantly, if you’re trying to shaft a billionaire, they won’t go easily. It could be the beginning of the end of the NFL.

  66. People of the blog-o-sphere,
    I love the way everyone is talking about Stan “forcing” his way and doing things without “permission”. Did I miss the article where he said “I’m moving no matter what, NFL.” Truth is, he announced his intentions and next year, there will be a vote and it will be approved. It’s unfortunate that no one saw this coming but apparently he knows how to keep a secret. All of this talk about Stan going rogue are over stated. He has announced his intentions and I’m sure will “play by the rules” (until he decides otherwise). If anything, the announcement had more to do with the STL group making their unveiling. He wanted to strike first… and did.

    Go Rams!

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