Deflated ball investigation began after Colts interception

AP

You can thank D’Qwell Jackson for sparking Deflate-gate.

According to Bob Glauber of Newsday, the investigation into whether the Patriots intentionally deflated the footballs in play in Saturday’s AFC Championship game began when Jackson intercepted a Tom Brady pass in the second quarter.

Given that each team provides a dozen balls to game officials to use when it is on offense, the Colts might not have known anything was different about New England’s barring the turnover. Ostensibly, a slightly deflated ball would be easier to grip and throw in rainy, windy conditions, as they were playing in Sunday night.

When Jackson returned to the sidelines after his pick, he gave it to a member of the Colts equipment staff, who noticed it felt under-inflated.

The equipment man told coach Chuck Pagano, who relayed the information to General Manager Ryan Grigson, who contacted NFL director of football operations Mike Kensil, who told the officials on the field at halftime.

So while Brady laughed off the suggestion of a conspiracy when asked yesterday, the reality is, he could have kept it from being an issue at all.

All he had to do was throw it to his own teammates, and it’s possible no one would have ever known.

341 responses to “Deflated ball investigation began after Colts interception

  1. How does a league like the NFL let stuff happen like this? I know this game wasn’t close at the end but at the time of the interception it was.

  2. When is the league going to investigate Aaron Rodgers for over inflating the ball like they exposed on MNF? or are the Pats going to continue to be the only team under this type of ridiculous scrutiny. You have tampering, coaches tripping players and teams setting up walls of players to interfere with onfield play and the league is spending its resources on a few footballs with a little less air in them?

  3. So, the referee handled that ball before the snap, didn’t notice anything strange and allowed play. The Pats run the play and the ball is underthrown and picked off. Maybe because it was under inflated? How long was that ball in play prior to the pick?

  4. For those who dont know, YES the refs check the balls before kickoff, but then they are given back to the ball boys PAID BY THE PATRIOTS 15 minutes before kickoff. The ball boy (or anyone from the pats) can take a tiny little needle and casually deflate balls that are given to the Pats offense, while handing over fully inflated balls for when the Colts go on offense.

    Why doesnt belicheck just stop cheating instead of relying on his loyal fans and the media to keep defending his cheating tactics and saying it doesnt “help” and it wouldnt have mattered.

    It may not have mattered in this game, but Brady is known as the best “bad weather QB”. I guess maybe now we know why. He’s playing with a soft ball, while his opponents were given rocks to throw out there.

    How bout Bill just makes it easier on his legacy and STOP CHEATING!

  5. OK so a slightly deflated ball may have been used. Where is the evidence or suggestion of a conspiracy?

    It could just as well been that the ball lost air during the game due to 300 pound plus guys landing on it…. or it had a small leak or ?????

    Where is the conspiracy and attempt to adjust game balls coming from? did they find more balls that were at the same pressure? Did they see someone letting air out of the ball?

    I am sure that in plenty of games the balls change air pressure during the game. Why does this all of sudden come up at a outstanding Pats win that had nothing to do with balls being inflated to the right pressure.

    Maybe if Indy’s D had inflated their balls, they would have stopped the run more and made it a game… That is only thing I can see that was deflated that effected the game….

    Geesh what a big hub bub for no reason, other than to try and tarnish the Pats, again.

    Until more evidence of a conspiracy happens, one deflated ball does not a conspiracy make. Maybe the deflated ball hurt Brady on the throw and that is why it was under thrown and intercepted in the first place.

  6. Anybody who watched football on Sunday could clearly see that the Packers are the ones with deflated balls. *Zing*

  7. Pats intentionally deflating the balls makes no sense. Brady said earlier this season that he prefers the ball inflated to max because he likes it larger and harder with his big hands, even in cold weather. Thus, why would he want them deflated? No way the Pats deflate the ball unless that’s the way Brady wants them.

  8. ya pats cheat all the time and when they don’t they lose and then Brady wife make excuses for her man it is pathetic when the QB and his wife always complains and when he don’t get his way he then takes it upon his team to cheat what a dumb ass team

  9. So the officials touched that ball. Why didn’t they notice? This is stupid. It was gamesmanship by the Colts obviously and it’s working as the league won’t resolve it for weeks.

  10. The Patriots have become prime targets based upon their history of excellence and because Bill Belichick has made very few friends over the years stomping on the throats of opponents when the games are essentially out of reach. That doesn’t make him a cheater. It just means he doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt.

  11. Typical Dolts, if there was a problem with that ball it actually helped the Colts not the Pats, as Brady throw his worst pass of the day with that ball, resulting in a terrible interception.

  12. So tje refs on the field who touch the ball after every play (at least 3 refs) non of them noticed?

    Oh wait, the Patriots piad the refs. Right haters?

  13. So let me get this straight. Throughout the game the officials never noticed something amiss, they handle the ball constantly, (no jokes) but the one time an opposing player gets one, brings it to his sideline, not the officials, gives it to his equipment manager who then discovers it doesn’t seem right.

  14. The Colts organization should be ashamed of themselves, not just because of their performance on the field.

    Amazing how they immediately noticed a supposedly underinflated ball when said ball was handled by multiple officials before being put in play.

    Strip the Colts of a draft pick and Irsay of his prescriptions when this is found to be a hoax.

  15. Much ado about nothing.

    And even IF the balls were intentionally deflated, would the haters and trolls really be able to stand in front of a mirror and say the deflated balls were the reason for the 45 – 7 win?

    Again, much ado about nothing.

  16. I pretty much have no doubt that the Patriots would of beat the Colts anyways. However, just another asterisk for the most tainted franchise in modern sports. Bellacheat will do anything to get some kind of unfair advantage over any opponent no matter what the cost. It’s why everyone hates the Patriots. Will always be a tarnished organization.

  17. This is getting out of hand now. Deflating balls? Deception? And now people are talking about rogue towel boys and TV screens in the parking lot of Patriots Place? Is this not completely out of control at this point?

    I get that the Patriots illegally taped the NY Jets in 2007 and that ultimately if people are suspicious of the Patriots success it’s their own fault. But people need to get a grip. I understand a lot of people want to undermine success, I saw it in Boston for years amongst fellow Red Sox fans in regards to the Yankees.

    People can hate on the Patriots all they want but in the end nothing anyone says can change the fact that Patriots run since 2001 has been one of the, if not the, greatest in NFL history and that Bill and Tom are both first ballot HOFers.

    Go PATS!

  18. So glad my Ravens don’t have to cheat to win a football game. We are the pinnacle of class in the NFL. Great time to be a Ravens fans. So many of you are jealous of our great franchise. Cheers!

    #joemontanaflacco
    #raygodlewis
    #ravensnationleader

  19. Meh, not really. If he had thrown it to Gronk and gotten a TD, Gronk still would have given the ball to an official who could have noticed something nefarious.

  20. Patriots Guilty for deflating footballs. Give them a one year suspension and take away all future draft picks for three years.

  21. Doesn’t Aaron Rodgers over inflate the balls? Didn’t he admit that to reporters during an NBC broadcast? Is that being investigated ???

  22. At what point does the NFL and sports media stop kissing Bill Belicheat, Tom Shady and Robert Krafty arses and start acurately reporting on the “Patriot Way” of needing to cheat to get the advantage to win? They were caught years ago and now it appears they were caught again! The integrity of the game……yea OK Goodell, lets see your definition of integrity and its protection!

  23. They probably did deflate the balls. Wouldn’t have mattered anyway. Brady could have went out there and only used his feet to punt the ball to receivers with 18 defenders on the field, and they still would have won by 30.

  24. I’m guessing Jackson gave it to a Colts equipment staffer and told him to deflate it while he was in possession of it, thus expertly framing the Patriots with no one the wiser. A genius plan, but will no doubt result in a loss of Colts draft picks and a heavy fine once a thorough investigation is completed.

  25. I can’t wait for Seattle to steamroll this team like they did to the Broncos last year. This team is essentially a poor mans Jim Kelly Buffalo Bills team since their last super bowl title. They get to the big stage and find ways to lose the game.

  26. IF, and it’s a big if, this investigation proves that the Patriots cheated, there needs to be some huge penalties handed down. This would be like a repeat offender in the league’s personal conduct program, only worse. Belichick would need to be suspended for a year, the wins and stats of the game vacated, and the Superbowl spot forfeited to the Colts. Again, it would be a huge surprise if there is really anything going on here but if there is, there is no way the Patriots can get away with it, again. Sean Payton lost a year for doing what equated to very little when compared to this.

  27. “No one would have known at all” I disagree, the refs handle the balls in between every play. This is another case of a team being sore losers. If that turns out to be the only ball that was under deflated, I hope they investigate the colts to see if they did it intentionally to draw away attention from their ineptness. If so I can’t wait to see what the patriots do to them next year.

  28. There ya go Pats fans. Let’s deflect blame on some reporter from Indy for a supposed witch hunt when all he was doing was his job, REPORTING!!! Good for the Colts and turning in the frauds that are the Patriots. Now we all know Roger will sweep it under the rug and not much will come of this, but I think Billy Boy should get the Sean Payton treatment seeings this is not his first offense. Maybe a year off will change him? Doubt it, but maybe.

  29. Here’s a question : “which involved fewer people, the ball going from Jacksons hands to the NFL rep, or the blueprints from the Brady kids (including Alice) to Mike Brady?

  30. Sure, they were all into it. The officials, the ball boys, the NFL officials that inspect the balls – everyone. The most difficult part was ensuring they took out only the deflated balls, that weren’t just marked during the inspection, but had the ‘secret’ mark.

  31. I’m going to tell you right now, If the NFL deems that these balls were purposely deflated to gain an advantage, The New England Patriots should be slammed work massive fines (millions), they should lose multiple top draft picks, and Belichick should be banned from coaching.

    My reasoning for this is Spygate. Fire this to happen AGAIN would be completely unreal. The very best coach in the game (and yes, he is) does not need to cheat

  32. Alright, I get it.

    Pats haters love the whole spygate/cheating pot stirring. It comes with the territory, and as a Pats fan, I honestly could care less and if brings more anger to the Haters, then so be it.

    But this deflating football thing? Come on now.

    Going into Super Bowl week, and this is what we are going to use as controversy? Its one thing if the score was close, or if they only used one ball throughout the whole game, but this is absurd not just for the fact that its the Pats involved, but for football in general.

    They (NFL) literally have to now check every football that every player handled throughout the game. While we are at it, lets check all the footballs that were used in the Packers/Seahawks game too, for with some of the throws and catches made in that game with the weather they were having, deflating must have been going on there too.

    This is the lowest of the lows, seriously….

  33. Well Pats fans? Kinda shoots holes through your “wouldn’t it benefit both teams?” or “Colts are the passing team, it would help them not us.” theories now doesn’t it.

  34. This still doesn’t make sense as the referee places the ball at the line of scrimmage before the play so the ref would have been able to feel the ball was not properly inflated taking it out of the game.

  35. Yes it seems all the comments about this issue is that the under inflated balls never made it to the field and it was removed on the sidelines. If the players noticed the difference then it has nothing to do with the weather environment to cause that much deflation. What I don’t understand is something like happens during the game, the issues should be addressed during the game, not after when its in the books.

  36. how would this relate to A luck completing 12 of 33 passes attempts ( 36%), Hilton catching 1 of 6 targets, Herron 2 of 4, Nicks 1 of 3, Wayne o of 2, Moncrief 0 of 1….

  37. So, they changed the balls after half time and still got blown out??? You guys do know its common that quarterbacks get their footballs adjusted to what’s more comfortable for them?? what happened in this game wasn’t because of a deflated ball at all. If it was a close game or off the Pats threw for 700 yards, then yeah, rage on.

  38. Patriots should thank the JETS DOLPHINS BILLS for the easiest road to the SUPER BOWL you could possible have for the last 15 years ! Not only are their balls deflated so is the division they finish first in every year !

  39. Maybe they should have let Brady keep playing with that ball. As I’m sure the officials checked all the balls after that point and the Colts lost big from that point on.

    Come on NFL!!! It doesn’t take a month to do an investigation. What are your findings.

  40. wow, and there blaming the pats for this after, a pounding of points in the second half,

  41. What a crock. The refs handled these balls between every play and didn’t notice a thing. Then a colts player touches a ball and notices it’s been deflated. If it was so obvious the refs would have noticed it. This has Jimmy “White Lines” Irsay’s fingerprints all over it.

    The colts are a joke of an organization. The embarrassed themselves by coming to the AFC championship game woefully unprepared, then further tarnished themselves by making a lame excuse for their performance.

  42. I just flipped on this site to see what the latest story was trashing the Pats. Not disappointed.

  43. One thing we are certain of is that Bill Belichick is in the head of opposing coaches. It is clear now that both Harbaugh and Pagano were mentally ill-equipped to compete with Belichick so, in their small minds, he must be cheating.

    Sun Tzu, The Art of War: “Every battle is won before it is fought.”

  44. “All he had to do was throw it to his own teammates, and it’s possible no one would have ever known.”

    His team won 45-7. I think he did just fine

  45. This is the biggest story in the country and it’s total BS… what a sad state for American media.

    We all know what happened after the last time the Pats were in the headlines for a cheating scandal, they dominated everyone else and took it out on every team they played. Watch out Seattle…

  46. Or the Colts equipment staff could have deflated the ball.

    I’ve watched enough Law & Order to know that the chain of evidence was violated thereby tainting the evidence.

    Pagano has already lied about this–he said he “did not notice it.” Oh yeah, sure.

    Your team is submitting evidence and tacitly accusing the Patriots of cheating and you “did not notice it.”

    Really?

    Pagano is a crappy coach and, if this incident is any indication, a crappy person.

  47. I was listening to this clown on wfnz 610 am in Charlotte yesterday and he actually said on the air ,

    Blount had 100 plus yards and 3 touchdowns , how does a under inflated ball give an advantage there .

    Im at a loss for words to explain my thoughts when this came out of his mouth !!

    All i can say is how do you think the run is set up ?

    ITS LAUGHABLE !!!

  48. Right now, we can ascertain that the balls were deflated. If they were not, this investigation would be over in about 2 minutes.

    IF the league comes back and says “No violations”, then they are obviously covering things up (IE tape burning in Spygate)

  49. This is delicious. They’re a good enough team to win on their own merits. But weird things about their competitive integrity keep swirling around them after all these years. In the interest of full disclosure, it’d be one thing if it was just one player, such as Haloti Ngata from my Ravens. He was punished, but not a reflection on the team itself. But the Patriots as a whole, at the VERY least, seem shady as a football team. I’d rather look at them as one of the greatest Coach/QB teams of all time, based on their excellence every year. But…they make it very hard.

  50. no one would have ever known what?? Apparently Jackson and the Colts staff know better than the referees who place the ball after every down.

  51. So I guess that is why the Patriots outscored the Colts 28-0 in the 2nd half – because the officials finally started to do their jobs and ensured the Pats offense was provided properly inflated footballs.

    And how can Pagano have not seen anything, when he was the one who started the brouhaha?

  52. I’m a Giant fan so I have no love for Pat’s.

    With all the Ref’s who handled the ball in that game, none of them ever notices a softer football?

    If deflating the ball was such an advantage, then why did he throw the Interception?

    Gimme a break! colts got pummeled!

  53. All those Pats fans who said it would benefit the Colts just as much as the Pats obviously don’t realize that each team provides and plays with their own footballs. The turnover was the first clue because that is the only time the Colts had their hands on the Pats game balls.

  54. The referees are supposed to check ball inflation before the game. I bet this is something that gets put to the side nowadays and the patriots took advantage of that. If that’s the case the fault is on the referees. I don’t think there is anyway the patriots staff would try to deflate the halls after the fact.

  55. >>>All he had to do was throw it to his own teammates, and it’s possible no one would have ever known.<<<
    If you ignore the fact that the referees ( an All-Star crew) was handling the ball after every play to dry it off. You don't think that they would have noticed if the ball was a little different??? Sour grapes…

  56. All the Pats fans are going to go with their usual blowoff responses.

    How interesting is it that the same team keeps getting busted over and over again for going outside the rules?

    Taping Signals and Walk-throughs.

    Funny business with radio communication when at home.

    Underinflated balls.

    Sure is coincidence that the same team is involved over and over again. And given the likelihood that only a small fraction of cheating behavior is ever caught it makes you wonder what else they do that hasn’t even come out yet.

    Fire away with the denials, Pats fans. There’s a lot of smoke coming from Belicheat.

  57. The Patriots deflated the footballs so Pretty Boy could get a better grip with his little hands. Of course they cheated, it’s the New England Way. They got caught and blew their chance at an asterisk-free Lombardi. The Belichick regime will always be known for cheating. He cheated at life with another man’s wife and cheats at football every chance he gets.

  58. Talk about an overinflated “controversy”.

    The new strategy of many teams is just accuse the ones that beat them of cheating, especially if it’s the Pats.

    Patriots Nation is laughing at you.

  59. So they took some balls away to test….Funny though, after that ..Brady & Patriots went on a 31-0 run.

    The Colts are like the sissy who watches an adult movie,,and wishes he was a big guy…serious envy going on. Tough to be ugly step sister.

    In fact..alot of NFL teams and fans watch Patriots…and wish they had that..Right jet, dolphin, viking, redskin fans?

    Little guy syndrome

  60. The idea that the NFL regulates the amount of air in the ball is what’s ridiculous. If a team wants to let some air out to grip it better why is that a crime, as long as both teams are allowed to do it why is it an issue? They aren’t putting helium in them for kickers.

  61. wouldn’t the refs know when they grab the ball and put it down before each play. either they are incompetent for not being aware, or they conspired with the Patsies.

  62. Sorry fans, but this is getting out of hand. Way to many variables for this to happen… I think the bottom line will be that the LB wouldn’t have caught the ball if the ball was pumped to 12.5-13.5 PSI, correct?? No, its just the way the game played out.

  63. Cheating scum!! Brady, Belechick, Kraft are all losers. I wish the NFL would put an end to Belechick’s career… How many more times has he cheated the system and not got caught? A big * should be next to every record or accomplishment these teams have achieved under Coach Bill Belechick!

  64. Wait a second, the 12 balls from each team are always kept separate and served up to the offense? And it takes an INT and a chain of people to have someone check? Even Russell Wilson after his 2 second concussion test sees the stupidity of this “rule”.

  65. so the loosing team “discovered” the “bad” ball.
    It’s not like anyone would let a little out and cry fowl. LOL
    Getting they butts whipped and trying to muddy up the waters.
    The colts didn’t belong in that game to begin with, and they know it.

  66. Tarnished legacy. And I was actually starting to appreciate that team. What kind of lesson is that to the ball boy never mind children fans. You can wipe it away but deep down its wrong and you know it Pats Fans.

  67. notaclownshoe says: Jan 20, 2015 8:57 AM

    Radio silence from Belicheat fans.
    _______________________

    ….uh, nope. Dude feels like a ball is under-inflated and gives to officials. 1)There’s still no confirmation that the ball was actually under-inflated. 2)There’s absolutely no evidence or proof at this time to indicate the Pats had ANYTHING to do with it being under-inflated if it even was to begin with. .

  68. So the officials were in on it? The referee handles the ball before each play.

    Stupid. The Patriots would have won using a volleyball.

    If I’m a Colts fan I am pissed because you saw a team completely unprepared to play a championship game. A 51 yard field goal attempt with swirling wind and rain?

    It was only 17-7 at the half and if it wasn’t for a dropped punt and that idiotic decision to try a field goal instead of punting and trying to make New England go 90 plus yards was an easy decision.

  69. Read the Newsday article first, and then ask the obvious question. So, if the Colts alerted the NFL at halftime, and then the Patriots came out and erupted for 21 points to start the second half, wouldn’t any deflated balls been removed, or inflated to the proper levels? The allegation that the underinflated balls helped them in the second half seems ludicrous, if the officials were notified at halftime.

  70. jackson, said he told pagano, but pagano said the other day he was not aware of what happened, and had no comment, this doesn’t make any sence.

  71. In an earlier piece pagano claimed ignorance of the circumstances
    For lying he should be fined and the colts should forfeit a draft choice
    It’s all about integrity of the game
    Sarcasm off

  72. According to Glauber:”According to a person familiar with the background of the matter”.

    No one will put there face on anything. No one has the courage of their convictions.

    Cowards. Plain and simple. All of them.

  73. If Luck is like Rodgers, who prefers his balls over inflated while Brady likes his under inflated, I could see how an equipment manager on the over inflated Colts would think something was different. According to the rule book, it’s a 25k fine maximum. So, not a big deal even by NFL standards IF it is confirmed by the investigation. What I am looking forward to most is when the NFL cites low pressure weather causing the at the border line Pats air pressure balls to have gone just below the allowed minimum air pressure. After that, Listening to everyone else cry for the next two decades will be fun. Sour-Grapes gate. Your team still can’t beat the Pats gate, You sucked for Luck and you still suck gate.

  74. Still radio silence from the NFL? I can’t believe the NFL really wants this silly controversy getting this much attention.

  75. And when the investigation shows nothing improper happened, the Colts and Kravitz will then accuse the Patriots of using a bunch of sideline fans, Bufallo Wild Wings style, to force Vinatieri to miss the field goal…

  76. As a Patriots fan, this is fantastic. We are in everyone’s head that we sometimes win the game before even showing up.

    It’s funny how Brady went 20 for 21 after the ball was taking out of play.

    I will enjoy my 7th trip to a super bowl while you loser fans cry over deflated footballs!!!

    bahahhahhahahhahahha!!!!!!

  77. This is way overblown, much like spygate.

    I wish there weren’t so many petty/jealous fans of the Pats and people could appreciate what they’ve done in the last 10+ years.

    As a Dolphins fan I hate the Pats. But at the same time I can also respect their accomplishments during the Brady/Belichick era.

    Bringing up spygate like it’s some indication of the Pats success is absurd. In the end, Belichick is the greatest coach of all time and Brady is one of the top QB’s of all time. I just wish fans would stop being so petty.

    There is nothing not to like about the Pats.

  78. Ya know…..i hate that this happens to the Pats every time they win but they just cant do things right. They cant. It’s frustrating.

  79. All part of the Patriots master plan to make their passes easier to intercept. Can we also add some articles about how Brady is washed up and should quit? I’m not sure the Patriots are sufficiently motivated for this Super Bowl yet.

  80. So Pagano was tiptoeing around the truth with his comments yesterday, trying to make it seem as if he had nothing to do with this. He realized that he had been buffaloed into a wild goose chase that could make him look like as big an ass as John Harbaugh did last week. He has skated until this point, but the truth is his team was completely embarrassed and he was completely out coached by the greatest in NFL history. He was exposed as a AAA coach with a AAA team and neither belongs in a championship game with any of the big boys. Buying in to the cheater garbage just makes him look small. very small.

  81. Roger Goodell announces sweeping policy changes. Chiefly- the NFL now stands for Noise From Losers.

    The league will be run by a committee including but not limited to John Harbaugh, Bill Polian, Mike Tannenbaum, Eric Mangini and Ryan Grigson.

    New polices include excessive excuse making after each and every loss and possible rule changes after each and every loss.

  82. After a while, this all gets old. They didn’t cheat, never have, never will. They spy gate argument is weak, all teams did it, they got in trouble because of Mangini the rat wanted an advantage as the new HC of the worthless Jets. How’s his career going? If they always cheat, how did they lose two SB’s? Why haven’t they won 15 in a row? I know a lot of people hate the Patriots, like I hate the Cowboys for winning in the 90’s. Deflated balls ….insert joke here.

  83. All the Pats fans are going to go with their usual blowoff responses.

    How interesting is it that the same team keeps getting busted over and over again for going outside the rules?

    Taping Signals and Walk-throughs.

    Funny business with radio communication when at home.

    Underinflated balls.

    Sure is coincidence that the same team is involved over and over again. And given the likelihood that only a small fraction of cheating behavior is ever caught it makes you wonder what else they do that hasn’t even come out yet.

    Fire away with the denials, Pats fans. There’s a lot of smoke coming from Belicheat.

    ___________________________________

    Waaaahhhh, waaaahhhh. Your team and you don’t like what the Patriots do? Then stop them!

  84. dsigrey says:
    Jan 20, 2015 8:38 AM

    This is the biggest story in the country and it’s total BS… what a sad state for American media.

    We all know what happened after the last time the Pats were in the headlines for a cheating scandal, they dominated everyone else and took it out on every team they played. Watch out Seattle…
    ———————————————
    I think you left out the most important piece to your statement. They lost in the Superbowl to the Giants. So I don’t think they dominated every team they played.

  85. Blah, Blah, Blah! I had much more respect for the Colts before they revealed that they are such poor losers and whiners. Everytime the Patriots win, it’s a “conspiracy”. The fact is they beat the Colts like a red headed stepchild and would have done the same if they had been playing with a Frisbee! I’m not even a AFC fan but recognize that in this competition the Patriots were by far the better team and losing gracefully would have served the Colts better than creating a drama and behaving like school children! It seems curious to me that in a game of such magnitude the NFL wouldn’t have an “equipment manager” to be in charge of making sure all balls were inflated to the proper weight when put into play. Now fans are going to be beseiged by all the conspiracy theory for weeks to come!

  86. If anything this has been a great distraction for the Colts who are not having to answer for why they stunk so bad and how after getting blown out three times New England was able to do the same basic things and spank them again.

    No let’s talk about the air pressure in the balls.

    Instead of giving credit to greatness let’s grasp at straws.

    There has to be a reason why teams lose to the team with the most wins in the past decade beyond the fact they are good.

    ————

    As a Patriots fan who may dislike Peyton Manning I still am man enough to give him credit. It’s simple and plain… He’s a great quarterback.

    Now if only some people can let it go and just give credit to Brady and Belicheck without having to come up with the lamest of the lame excuse… Air Pressure?!? We’re talking Air Pressure?!?

    C’mon Man!

  87. It does make sense. Pagano is classy and didn’t want to comment on it. He’s furious on the inside.

  88. Straight up bunch of cheater the Patriots are and their leader Belicheat disgusts me as the man does not have one ounce of decency in him.

    Oh an I am not buying the balls lost air cause it was cold, because it seems to have only effected the Patriot’s balls, seven of them.

    The question now becomes how many times they have done this. Did the do it against the Ravens the week before? Maybe Brady has been washed up all year and the Pat have been cheating for Brady. When they lost to the Chiefs when everyone was calling him washed up and finished and then boom Brady is good again. How much of that is Brady and how much of it is a deflated ball? Does it even matter in the world perception is reality.

    Belicheat and Brady have cemented their legacy as Cheaters. And the league needs to drop the hammer unlike any other time ever before. If this was baseball these jokes would already be banned for life.

  89. Kind of weird how it takes an interception to notice something like this. The refs handle the ball on every single play. For those saying the refs conspired with the Pats why did they yell at them in the second half about it? Quarterbacks like footballs prepared differently this is much ado about nothing. This is a joke of a scandal apparently the NFL thinks it’s more important that balls are under inflated rather than get murder and assault investigations their fair shake. There is no integrity in the NFL.

  90. If the refs didn’t notice anything and they are handle every ball it must have been the Colts who deflated the ball and then blamed the Patriots.

  91. dan7800 says:
    Jan 20, 2015 8:39 AM
    Right now, we can ascertain that the balls were deflated. If they were not, this investigation would be over in about 2 minutes.

    IF the league comes back and says “No violations”, then they are obviously covering things up (IE tape burning in Spygate)

    —–

    Conspiracy theorists already out in force, making sure that there’s not way for this to go other than conspiracy. If something is determined to have happened, it happened. If they find nothing happened, well, obviously it’s a coverup…

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

    And don’t you think the multiple refs that handle the ball after EVERY PLAY wouldn’t have noticed it, but the 1 time some equipment manager touches it, it’s obviously deflated.

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

    BB is the one that anonymously contacted that one Indy writer so he could keep his team in the “us vs. the world” mode for the SB…

    Is about as real a story as the “Pats won because of deflated balls”.

    To be fair, though, every hater will run with it because the jokes just write themselves. It’s hilarious.

  92. Wow nice try. You forgot one thing, the officials check every ball during the game before it goes onto the field and if it doesn’t feel right, they throw it out and get a new one.

  93. The New England cheaters are at it again. Let me guess, they’ll just dock them a 7th round draft pick and a half million dollar fine and slap them on the wrist. Hopefully they’ll get whats coming to them in two weeks for being a terrible organization.

  94. Whether or not the Pats cheated is not the main question of this story. The main question is why in the heck the NFL let’s teams provide their own footballs? This is completely absurd, and invites controversy. The NFL must be the only sports league in the world that practices this stupidity. The NBA provides the basketballs for their games; MLB provides all of the baseballs, the governing Tennis body provides balls for their tournaments, and FIFA provides the balls for the World Cup. If you are the NFL, with the billions of dollars that you rake in annually, why on earth would you allow this to happen? Hire a guy to travel with the officials whose sole responsibility is to regulate the balls. He can spot check the ball pressure on the sidelines throughout the game and signal the official if something is wrong. That ball gets removed from the game. If it happens again to the same team that had possession of the first ball, it’s an unsportmanlike, 15-yard penalty.

  95. Very strange!!! He intercepted the ball and kept the ball!! What if they deflated the ball then complained to the refs? Knowing that just is because we’re talking about the Pats would be an issue!!!!

  96. This whole thing is so stupid…the Colts stunk up the joint on Sunday. They were destined to get blown out. I hope the Pats take it all out on the Seahawks. Really,how many teams could turn it around the way the Pats did after being blown out by KC? As I said,keep poking the bear…

  97. Patriots fans: classless deniers. If this is proven they want no punishment for the theam and instead will revert back to the spygate defense: everyone does it. These are the same peopel that root for a man who wears red pants and models ugz and a guy who goes to basketball games and clubs with Justin Beiber.

    Classless.

  98. McDaniels is a cheater that much we already know. Spygate not once but twice. Once when he was in NE and once when he was coach for my Broncos which led (along with dismantling the team) to his firing. Is it shocking that he would try and cheat again. The fact that they killed the Colts is besides the point. IF THEY TRIED TO DEFLATE THE BALL THEY CHEATED, AGAIN!!! I believe McDaniels is behind this. I guess Belichek and Kraft must be okay with this otherwise he would be disgraced and fired. TAKING PICKS AWAY from the PATS is not good enough. The NFL must lay down the hammer or this behavior will continue. The Patriots are a classless organization.

  99. Clearly, the underinflated ball wasn’t helping the Patriots, hence the interception.
    Now, if Brady threw a bomb to Gronk for 80yds, and Gronk spikes said ball, which results in the ball ending up near a Colts equipment person, and they thought it felt odd when they picked it up, then maybe, just maybe, I’d buy into this ridiculous story. Other than that, haters gonna hate. Pat’s are the best in the business. Keep your hands and other body parts off our balls.

  100. So let’s get this straight, one of three things happened.

    1. After each play on a long drive by the patriots the ball is handled by multiple refs and colts (watch a play, it takes a least three refs to pass the ball to one another to set it up on the line of scrimmage for the snap), yet none of them notice anything wrong at all. After the pick by Indy, a ball boy may of thought the ball was under deflated but that means nothing since the ball is under the colts control.

    2. After each play on a long drive by the patriots the ball is handled by multiple refs and colts yet they are all completely incompetent as to know what a fully inflated football feels like. After the pick by Indy, it took a ball boy to notice the ball was under deflated but that means nothing since the ball is under the colts control.

    3. During a long drive by the Patriots, the pats stop using the good game ball that is working for them and decide to replace it with the “secret game ball” ( a la folgers taste test). The patriots then proceed to turn the ball over to the colts making the use of the “secret” game ball completely counter productive.

    You can decide which story to believe.

  101. From a former head of officials :

    Each ball is quarantined and checked prior to game time. The Standing referee checks each ball prior to it going into the game. If the Refs see and feel that the ball is in anyway deflated , it will be removed from play.

    So … how do the Patriots get an advantage unless the refs are helping them?

    So the Patriots take their ball off the field on a change of possession so the opposing team can’t get the same advantage?

    Honestly… I need someone to explain this to me and convince me it is not just another attempt to create a distraction prior to the super bowl.

    Brady’s right… this is ridiculous!!!

  102. Do Patriots fans not understand that cheating is cheating whether it is a close game or a blowout? The result of the game doesn’t mean it is okay to break the rules!!

  103. I may have missed the obvious, but why do the two offenses use different pools of footballs? They should both use the same pool of footballs for the offenses.

  104. This is going to be one of these things for which no one could provide indisputable evidence to confirm or refute. And unfortunately it will tarnish the Patriots, who may not have deflated those balls or who may have deflated them within limits. But as a previous poster suggested, there is a counterargument for anything the league finds with respect to these balls.

    Oh and, uh, would that ball have been intercepted if Jackson had not been able to handle it (assuming it was under-inflated below legal limits). It came out of Brady’s hands with less zing and was easier for Jackson to handle.

  105. I don’t know whether the Patriots deflated the balls or not, but I do know that I don’t care at all. Manipulating the amount of air in the football and taping the opponents sidelines do not constitute cheating. You are not cheating just because you break a rule (otherwise every team in the league cheats multiple times each game, every time they hold, interfere, line up offsides, late hit, etc.).

    The Saints didn’t cheat with bounty gate, the Jets didn’t cheat when they tampered with Revis, the Browns didn’t cheat when the owner was drunk-dialing the sideline to put Manziel in the game, hell….even the Broncos didn’t cheat when they violated the salary cap. Every team and every front office has broken a rule at some point, and ultimately every rule is about maintaining a level playing field. Teams are trying to gain tiny little edges in the margins with all of this stuff, but there are no big difference-making advantages to be had.

    People hate the Patriots because they are good and they are arrogant about it, and that is fine and understandable. But people sound like whining idiots when they drone on about the “cheating .” The only possible reason why anyone would care about how much air is in the football is because it has something to with the Patriots. It is the most absurd thing I’ve ever heard.

  106. After we win in two weeks and Brady becomes the best QB of all time, I will send all of you loser fans that support teams like the Jets, Steelers, Colts and Broncos the images from our 10th world Championship parade in Boston since 2002.

    Don’t hate the player, hate the game!!! Belichick is a genius!! Best coach of all time.

    Deflated footballs is why Brady, Belichick and the Patriots are so good…Bahhahahahhahahhahahhahahhhaahhahahhaahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahaahahahhahahahahhahahahhahhaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  107. .
    I like how the majority say oh the Colts deflated this one….

    You know except for the fact the refs noticed a higher than normal amount of deflated balls needing to be removed from the game.
    the pats would never cheat…
    u know cuz, they know they have the advantage…
    and they would never tack on points when they have a huge lead either.

  108. Why can no one explain why its “gamesmanship” when MNF does a 5 minute segment on Aaron Rodgers over inflating the football but if Brady likes it with a little less air its “cheating?” Do rational adults know how stupid this sounds?

  109. Shanahammer says:
    Jan 20, 2015 8:16 AM
    Doesn’t Aaron Rodgers over inflate the balls? Didn’t he admit that to reporters during an NBC broadcast? Is that being investigated ???
    —————————-
    No because he likes the ball inflated to the highest pressure allowed. There is a pressure range that the balls have to be in. Rodgers likes it at the max while Brady appears to like it soft and limp.

  110. maybe less air in the ball contributed to Blount running for 148 yards and 3 TD’s as well. Or maybe Indys defense just sucked.

  111. I love how pats fans wave off this accusation as if it’s the craziest thing in the world! Really? Gee, I could have sworn the pats were caught cheating rather egregiously a few years, so Belichick has a history of breaking rules. And bending them too–with his sneaky, BS plays against the Ravens. Declaring a back to ineligible might be OK–but rushing to get the snap off right after doing so is not. It is entirely possible that the pats underinflated their balls.

    Why does the NFL let teams play with their own balls–it is an invitation to break the rules for conniving teams like New England. I’ve never heard of a sport in which the teams don’t play with the same balls! Positively stupid.

  112. It’s all about the integrity of the shield. I doubt seriously if the NFL will find any wrong doing. Afterall, they never saw the Rice tape and destroyed the evidence from spygate.

    Blind allegiance is bad. Remember Pats fans, spygate was real or the NE organization and Belichick would NEVER have been fined.

    This is a big deal for repeated offenders.

  113. Report comment
    atthemurph says:
    Jan 20, 2015 9:42 AM
    Shanahammer says:
    Jan 20, 2015 8:16 AM
    Doesn’t Aaron Rodgers over inflate the balls? Didn’t he admit that to reporters during an NBC broadcast? Is that being investigated ???
    —————————-
    No because he likes the ball inflated to the highest pressure allowed. There is a pressure range that the balls have to be in. Rodgers likes it at the max while Brady appears to like it soft and limp.

    __

    No Rogers said he likes the “over inflated ” they did a 5 min segment on it on the pregame show when GB and NE played.

  114. People keep saying the refs handle the ball after every play. I don’t believe the would notice a couple pounds difference in air pressure. Professional who catch, throw and carry a ball for a living would notice.

    I don’t think changed the outcome of the game because I don’t think the Colts are that good especially when Luck is not playing good.

    Example: A professional race car driver would notice a couple lbs difference in tire pressure. I drive a car every day and would NOT notice a difference.

  115. The Belichick genius strikes again. There is an acceptable range for inflation of footballs, and the Patriots probably inflated the balls near the low side of the scale, still in compliance with the rules. However after being outdoors in cold weather the laws of nature take over and the pressure decreases. Those accusing the Pats of cheating are really only displaying their level of ignorance.

  116. If this kind of thing happened in Olympics, when they investigate and confirm it, they vacate the win & take away any medal won.
    But in NFL, it is only a hand slapping fine or may be a pick in the next year draft.

    The thing that shocks/surprises me is the fact that PATS are good enough to just line up & win. Then why do they do shady things like this?
    Then fans come in & defend actions of non-integrity.

  117. Paranoia:
    noun
    1. A psychotic disorder characterized by delusions with or without grandeur, often strenuously defended with apparent logic and reason.
    2. Extreme, irrational distrust of others.
    This country loves the underdog and individually most people strive for success, but when an entity reaches success those that cheered the underdog to success then begin the process of trying to tear that entity down. If it’s sustained success, like say 14 years of success, then lunacy and even paranoia prevail. Is it jealousy, disdain, or because of oversaturation? Probably all of the above. Last week it was formation-gate, which proved to be 100% within the rules and even when the rulebook was shown to cheat-nation they still believed something was done deceptively. This week it’s deflate-gate. All it takes is a hack from Indy to get everyone to take notice, by throwing something against the wall, and now the league is forced to conduct a full-fledged investigation into the air in the footballs. Never mind that the ref handles the ball BEFORE every play and I only saw one clear stoppage of play in which the ball was swapped out at the start of the second half. So to humor the mob I would love to know how many balls were swapped out, was it only when NE was on offense, and how many of the 23 completed pass plays that the Patriots had did the supposed “under inflated” balls affect? The Pats won 45-7. They ran the ball 40 times. The team trailing would be the team that needs to throw the ball. Any sane person would know that an under inflated ball (if there even was any) had zero to do with the outcome of the game considering the team that needed to throw had 7 points. But some people don’t believe we walked on the moon, or that there were dinosaurs, so reasoning with the unreasonable is futile. When the Patriots are absolved of guilt there won’t be any apologies from that Indy “reporter” nor will there be any from cheat-nation. They will continue to wear their tinfoil hats and claim that the league is covering up anything and everything to do with the Patriots. You know what this solidifies to me? It solidifies that the Patriots are the greatest dynasty in the history of the NFL. They have been so successful that they have driven a large subset of the NFL fan base to turn into paranoia nation. I can’t think of any better justification of the Patriot’s success.

  118. The Steelers and Jets have both had coaches that interfered with live plays, and arguably tried to injure players while doing it.

    Once a cheater, always a cheater.

  119. NFL’s Lack of Integrity says:
    Jan 20, 2015 9:16 AM
    Straight up bunch of cheater the Patriots are and their leader Belicheat disgusts me as the man does not have one ounce of decency in him.

    Oh an I am not buying the balls lost air cause it was cold, because it seems to have only effected the Patriot’s balls, seven of them.

    The question now becomes how many times they have done this. Did the do it against the Ravens the week before? Maybe Brady has been washed up all year and the Pat have been cheating for Brady. When they lost to the Chiefs when everyone was calling him washed up and finished and then boom Brady is good again. How much of that is Brady and how much of it is a deflated ball? Does it even matter in the world perception is reality.

    Belicheat and Brady have cemented their legacy as Cheaters. And the league needs to drop the hammer unlike any other time ever before. If this was baseball these jokes would already be banned for life.


    So you want to ignore the fact that the refs check/touch the footballs when they come in or after every play.

    Next time save yourself a lot of time typing all this garbage and just type “I’m Jealous of the Patriots” you will save yourself a lot of time.

  120. Yes, after the air pressure issue was noticed the Pats killed the colts….BUT the pressure changes/cheating was made before the game was played getting any advantage they could.

    They didn’t need to cheat but wanted to ensure every competitive advantage before going into the game.

  121. The chain of bs. Pagano calls Harbaugh who warns the Colts coach that the Patriots cheat (he still can’t believe the Patriots beat the Ravens). Pagano, worrying about losing his job, gets nervous all weak leading up to the game. An equipment manager sucks up to Pagano with the deflated football theory. Pagano, who should be concentrating on the game, takes time to report the theory to the Colts GM who contacts league officials. League officials tell their on-field officials to be on the lookout (nothing imparts bias like having your boss tell you to be on the lookout). The on-field officials penalize the Patriots twice as often for twice as many yards as they do the Colts and give the Colts four first downs by penalty to just one for the Patriots. The Patriots still blowout the Colts for the fourth straight time. The Colts hide the fact that they initiated the deflated ball investigation to make it appear more legitimate and to cover their involvement. The media runs with it.

  122. richardernsberger says:
    Jan 20, 2015 9:48 AM
    I love how pats fans wave off this accusation as if it’s the craziest thing in the world! Really? Gee, I could have sworn the pats were caught cheating rather egregiously a few years, so Belichick has a history of breaking rules. And bending them too–with his sneaky, BS plays against the Ravens. Declaring a back to ineligible might be OK–but rushing to get the snap off right after doing so is not. It is entirely possible that the pats underinflated their balls.

    Why does the NFL let teams play with their own balls–it is an invitation to break the rules for conniving teams like New England. I’ve never heard of a sport in which the teams don’t play with the same balls! Positively stupid.

    Yeah except they didn’t “rush to get the play off”. It’s been replay and talked about there was 7-10 seconds after the ball was placed before they snapped it. More than enough time for the D to adjust.

    But keep up the good fight.

  123. Let me get this straight, NY and Indy columnists are reporting on this story. Half the Boston media hates Belichick and they have said little if anything about the mechanics of this story. Kravitz left the Indy Star for a radio station, now people are paying attention to him again. There are a lot of suckers out there.

  124. A lot of people are going to look pretty stupid when it turns out it was one or two balls with a fault that has caused such a maelstrom of vilification and hatred. Do people really think with their history the Patriots are going to do something like this for what amounts to no advantage and EVERY chance of being found out. I don’t think so.

    …and why was this reported by a TV station, why did the Colts not go directly to the league, does anyone question that because that strikes me as being awfully wierd!!!!

  125. Why is it ok for Aaron Rodgers to over inflate it? Arent the rules supposed to be for everyone? That’s what bothers most nfl fans. Gotta be consistent.

  126. flash1287 says:
    Jan 20, 2015 9:55 AM
    NFL’s Lack of Integrity says:
    Jan 20, 2015 9:16 AM
    Straight up bunch of cheater the Patriots are and their leader Belicheat disgusts me as the man does not have one ounce of decency in him.

    Oh an I am not buying the balls lost air cause it was cold, because it seems to have only effected the Patriot’s balls, seven of them.

    The question now becomes how many times they have done this. Did the do it against the Ravens the week before? Maybe Brady has been washed up all year and the Pat have been cheating for Brady. When they lost to the Chiefs when everyone was calling him washed up and finished and then boom Brady is good again. How much of that is Brady and how much of it is a deflated ball? Does it even matter in the world perception is reality.

    Belicheat and Brady have cemented their legacy as Cheaters. And the league needs to drop the hammer unlike any other time ever before. If this was baseball these jokes would already be banned for life.


    So you want to ignore the fact that the refs check/touch the footballs when they come in or after every play.

    Next time save yourself a lot of time typing all this garbage and just type “I’m Jealous of the Patriots” you will save yourself a lot of time.

    ________________

    You are just a delusional in fan boy. Seven balls were removed from the game that were being used by the Patriots. How about we focus on that number SEVEN. If it was one ball I would not even bother posting but seven balls goes beyond any reasonable doubt that this was nothing. History shows this to be a pattern with Belicheat. Is integrity to be thrown out the window in our little world, because by all appearances the Patriots have no integrity. Seven Balls is no fluke.

  127. I just want to talk about the future—-where have I heard that before? OHHHH from another cheater–Caught again and it is not called pushing the rules it is called CHEATING

  128. Belichick found another gray area. He had the balls inflated to spec at the beginning of the season, knowing that they would be a little softer in January. But he still didn’t deliberately underinflate them. Genius!

  129. The NFL commissioner’s office just came down with a ruling. To placate the paranoid coaches and fans, Belichick has agreed to coach with the Scarlet Letter “C” on his Hoodie.

    Is there anyone who doubts that Belichick could take the Colts roster and beat the Patriots roster if it was coached by Pagano?

    I say that with no disrespect to the Patriots players.

  130. qdog112 says: Jan 20, 2015 9:49 AM

    It’s all about the integrity of the shield. I doubt seriously if the NFL will find any wrong doing. Afterall, they never saw the Rice tape and destroyed the evidence from spygate.

    Blind allegiance is bad. Remember Pats fans, spygate was real or the NE organization and Belichick would NEVER have been fined.

    This is a big deal for repeated offenders.

    —–

    Sure was real, and also the biggest overreaction in league history.

    Filming signals out in the wide open, that everyone can see for advanced scouting. You come back and play with the same signals, you’re an idiot.

  131. grogansheroes says:
    Jan 20, 2015 8:36 AM
    I just flipped on this site to see what the latest story was trashing the Pats. Not disappointed.

    ==================

    Fortunately for you, it will be on every sports website for the next couple of weeks.

  132. Colts have been accused of piping in crowd noise in their old stadium. The owner has had his trouble with the law. Who’s to say that the Colts didn’t deflate the ball on the sideline (or elsewhere) before giving it to the league officials? Create a built-in excuse for losing and embarasses the Patriots… Just as plausible as the Pats ballboy doing it…

  133. pdmjr says:
    Jan 20, 2015 7:49 AM
    How does a league like the NFL let stuff happen like this? I know this game wasn’t close at the end but at the time of the interception it was.

    —————-

    Let what happen? The officials spotted that ball. They touched it multiple times. All the NFL let happen was the Colts try to gain an advantage by accusing the Patriots. It didn’t work. After that the Patriots crushed them (and I assume the officials were checking the balls after that point).

    There is no controversy. It’s just BS.

  134. goscarg says:
    Jan 20, 2015 10:26 AM
    Colts have been accused of piping in crowd noise in their old stadium. The owner has had his trouble with the law. Who’s to say that the Colts didn’t deflate the ball on the sideline (or elsewhere) before giving it to the league officials? Create a built-in excuse for losing and embarasses the Patriots… Just as plausible as the Pats ballboy doing it…

    ______________

    Because besides that Ball the officials then removed six others from the Patroits side from the game.

  135. detroitkitty says: Jan 20, 2015 8:46 AM

    All the Pats fans are going to go with their usual blowoff responses.

    How interesting is it that the same team keeps getting busted over and over again for going outside the rules?

    Taping Signals and Walk-throughs.

    Funny business with radio communication when at home.

    Underinflated balls.

    Sure is coincidence that the same team is involved over and over again. And given the likelihood that only a small fraction of cheating behavior is ever caught it makes you wonder what else they do that hasn’t even come out yet.

    Fire away with the denials, Pats fans. There’s a lot of smoke coming from Belicheat.

    ———-

    No walkthrough was ever taped. theres a nice retraction in a major newspaper to address that.

    No radio issues either. In fact the pats have lost their communications in multiple away stadiums in the past.

    It’s hilarious people think the ball is so underinflated its making the difference in a 45-7 game. The refs handle every ball multiple times.

  136. Even if the ball was a bit deflated, how do we know it still wasn’t within the allowable limits allowed by the NFL, which is 12.5 to 13.5 pounds? This just seems like the Colts making excuses, and passing the blame and unwilling to accept losing. Fine the Colts for making a bogus claim and take away a draft pick.

  137. mjdkid100 says:
    Jan 20, 2015 10:29 AM
    detroitkitty says: Jan 20, 2015 8:46 AM

    All the Pats fans are going to go with their usual blowoff responses.

    How interesting is it that the same team keeps getting busted over and over again for going outside the rules?

    Taping Signals and Walk-throughs.

    Funny business with radio communication when at home.

    Underinflated balls.

    Sure is coincidence that the same team is involved over and over again. And given the likelihood that only a small fraction of cheating behavior is ever caught it makes you wonder what else they do that hasn’t even come out yet.

    Fire away with the denials, Pats fans. There’s a lot of smoke coming from Belicheat.

    ———-

    No walkthrough was ever taped. theres a nice retraction in a major newspaper to address that.

    No radio issues either. In fact the pats have lost their communications in multiple away stadiums in the past.

    It’s hilarious people think the ball is so underinflated its making the difference in a 45-7 game. The refs handle every ball multiple times.

    ___________________________

    No one is saying the Patroits cheating was the reason they won against the Colts. Pats busted the Colts that is simple. The fact is they still cheated.

  138. The Patriots fans need to relax a bit here, no one in their right mind is suggesting that the deflated balls were a major factor in winning the game.

    The only suggestion is that the Patriots found a way to give themselves a slight advantage when they were on offense. That slight advantage is against the rules and if the NFL can prove it, then a draft pick will be lost.

    No it’s not a major conspiracy theory at work here, if you want to see one of those, go to the league office for the official explanation on why the Spygate tapes were destroyed.

  139. To the other teams fans who the think the pats have a cake walk division
    Miami and the bills beat them and they beat the jets in their two games by a combined three points

    Further and this is something you probably don’t know or have forgotten
    When you finish in first you okay all the teams in your conference who finished in first
    Then the pats played the afc west
    That would be Kansas City
    San Diego
    Denver

    See anything easy there?
    Then they played the NFC central
    Green Bay
    Detroit
    Chicago

    Yeah that’s an easy schedule

    Grow up haters
    Or just come to the dark side

    Lmao

  140. #1. The final score does not have anything to do with the allegations ….zero.
    #2. “The refs should have noticed the deflated balls”. The Refs ? Refs ?! are you kidding me ? notice something ?
    #3. Patriot nation :get ready for non stop 24/7 “Ball Gate” as the media focus will be unbelievable if this is true.
    #4. Spy Gate will be brought into the mix every time Ball Gate and the Patriots are discussed.
    #5. The Patriot fans seem fine with another possible episode of cheating. True fans but not cool or a good look.
    #6. If true, plan on being hammered by the league. Your only hope is the cushy relationship with Mr. Kraft and Roger Goodell.

  141. It is of course not being mentioned that one – simply because the Colts asked for the ball to be tested means nothing.

    And second, assuming this story is true, on the drive in question, the refs would have handled the ball at least nine times and apparently saw nothing wrong with it.

    As per usual, it is much ado about absolutely nothing.

  142. What’s funny is that it obviously didn’t help
    Brady throw an awful interception on that pla
    ***********************************************
    Just imagine how many he would have thrown if the ball was at the correct weight…..

  143. When Jackson returned to the sidelines after his pick, he gave it to a member of the Colts equipment staff, who noticed it felt under-inflated.

    The equipment man told coach Chuck Pagano, who relayed the information to General Manager Ryan Grigson, who contacted NFL director of football operations Mike Kensil, who told the officials on the field at halftime.
    ___________________________

    So the officials handled the ball up to that point, and noticed nothing. Jackson brought the ball to the sideline without noticing it was under inflated, probably to save it as a memento of an AFC Championship interception. Nobody notices anything about the ball until the Colts’ equipment manager has the ball.

    The Colts (the same team who got the rules committee to change rules emphasis in the past because the Patriots beat them in the playoffs) didn’t bring it to the referee’s attention, they sent a complaint up the ladder to the league. The ball in question was in control of the Colts’ equipment staff while the complaint was filed.

    Very late that night, a guy who’s been covering the Colts, and is close to the team, happens to get a tip from a “league source” that the Patriots are being investigated for “deflating game balls.”

    Of all the games that have been played, with all the exchange of possessions, and all the times the officials handle the balls, the one time a Colts equipment manager handles a ball there’s a problem?

    And it’s the Patriots who were conspiring???

    When a team annihilates another team 4 times in 3 years, it’s because one team is superior, or one team is inferior, or both. With very few exceptions, the Patriots have been toying with the Colts for well over a decade.

    Maybe the Colts should try assembling more than a 0ne man team and try to compete on the field.

  144. I love these Pats fans lol no one and I mean no one defends a cheating scandal as well as them, must be the practice

  145. NFL’s Lack of Integrity says:
    Jan 20, 2015 10:19 AM
    flash1287 says:

    You are just a delusional in fan boy. Seven balls were removed from the game that were being used by the Patriots. How about we focus on that number SEVEN. If it was one ball I would not even bother posting but seven balls goes beyond any reasonable doubt that this was nothing. History shows this to be a pattern with Belicheat. Is integrity to be thrown out the window in our little world, because by all appearances the Patriots have no integrity. Seven Balls is no fluke.

    —————

    Where was it confirmed that it was seven balls? I saw “several”.

    Also… They complained about the ball, which I am sure was wet and soggy. So they probably more closely looked at any other balls and if they picked the most inflated ones. It doesn’t mean the others were under inflated.

    Brady threw a pick with that ball… the rest of the game, with the officials checking he played better, not worse.

    I just don’t see that it will amount to anything, but you never know.

    The NFL needs to move faster on this… right or wrong, get the investigation over with now. If it turns out the Patriots were innocent and they announce it post Super Bowl, it will really be the league’s fault if it impacts them. The Patriots should get ready to drop a massive lawsuit on the NFL.

    How long does it take to measure, take the air pressure and weigh the balls. Also, as everyone who owns a football knows, that has to have been done already, because the air pressure would reduce over time. Also, how long does it take to interview coaches, ball attendants, officials, etc. The officials handled the ball that was in question and didn’t notice anything, so why did the Colts notice and they did not?

    The whole thing is being mismanaged to the detriment of the Patriots. It’s BS.

  146. I wonder if the Colts are still pumping fake crowd noise into their stadium to interfere with teams trying to legally run an effective offense. that’s about the most despicable thing ive ever heard of a team doing.

  147. Here is what I learned at school today, mom:

    1) Try to cheat and score a lopsided win, the cheating doesn’t matter.
    2) Follow the rules? Pffft! Just look like I followed the rules.
    3) Winning is everything. Integrity is for chumps.
    4) Reporting a possible issue to the person in charge makes you a whiner.

  148. whatjusthapped says:
    Jan 20, 2015 10:35 AM

    The only suggestion is that the Patriots found a way to give themselves a slight advantage when they were on offense. That slight advantage is against the rules and if the NFL can prove it, then a draft pick will be lost.

    No it’s not a major conspiracy theory at work here, if you want to see one of those, go to the league office for the official explanation on why the Spygate tapes were destroyed.
    ———

    what is the advantage??? That Brady likes a little less air in the ball? are we being serious here? What about Aaron Rodgers over inflating the ball? He throws no picks at home in 2+ years and that’s not suspicious?

    The Spygate tapes were destroyed because it showed other teams doing the same thing. This is not news.

  149. I hope this is the thing the pats rally around and they bring so much anger to super bowl,and make it even worse the. The Indy game. 50 burger. 60 burger. Make it total domination with zero chance for Hawks. And all the pats haters can sit for hours with no hope at all and cry.

  150. You are just a delusional in fan boy. Seven balls were removed from the game that were being used by the Patriots. How about we focus on that number SEVEN. If it was one ball I would not even bother posting but seven balls goes beyond any reasonable doubt that this was nothing. History shows this to be a pattern with Belicheat. Is integrity to be thrown out the window in our little world, because by all appearances the Patriots have no integrity. Seven Balls is no fluke.

    ——

    Who said it was seven? The only thing I’ve seen anywhere was the ambiguous “several”.

  151. Whats the over/under on underinflated balls mentioned during the superbowl broadcast?

    ..reaching for wallet

  152. I thought the Colts were above this garbage. This is the type of idiocy the Jets try. I’m sure after Gostkowski kicks the game winning FG in two weeks they will say the NE kicking balls are filled with helium

  153. The Patriots should get ready to drop a massive lawsuit on the NFL.

    they should have for their interference during the first SB vs the Giants, forcing coaches to miss a day of preparation to respond to unfound claims of SB walkthrough tapes. That was sickening.

  154. Yesterday, it was Pagano who didn’t notice it, didn’t know about it, and won’t comment about it, but yet he’s the one who reported it.

    When you can’t beat Belichick, and your team is getting pounded by 40 points, make up something, report it to the league, and then say “no comment.”

    Go back to your cushy dome and don’t come back out until you stop turning up the heat, and piping in the noise.

  155. The game should be forfeit, and the Colts should go to the super bowl.
    The Patriots have cheated continually all year, and only just now have been caught. Doing it in this game and previous games.

    The Colts should be going to the Super Bowl!
    I’m not a Colts fan, but a bunch of superficial fines is not enough!! Correct this disaster!! Make it right NFL, or we will begin to believe that you’re in on it as well!!

  156. I’ll play devil’s advocate for a minute… Suppose that this ridiculous accusation had some merit. The Colts were no match for the Patriots,no matter how much air was in or not in the ball. The Colts were a horrible team on Sunday. That is an undeniable fact. They can blame it on cheating or whatever they want. There’s no getting around the reality that they STUNK.

  157. NFL’s Lack of Integrity says:
    Jan 20, 2015 10:34 AM

    No one is saying the Patriots cheating was the reason they won against the Colts. Pats busted the Colts that is simple. The fact is they still cheated.

    —————–

    That’s not determined yet.

    Right now you are unfairly assuming they were intentionally deflating footballs to gain an advantage. If they did it they deserve what ever the punishment is. However if they are exonerated, you won’t let it go either most likely, because that is the picture the media is painting. That’s called convicted by the media. It’s not right.

    Since you know the officials are going to touch every ball, I don’t see why any team would ever intentionally skirt this rule. it makes no sense. We’ll see what the outcome is.

  158. And the league will find no wrong doing of Bill,,,,,,,,,,,again. The white collars will take care of each other and keep the focus and all the penalties going to the players.

    How many times are the Pats/Bill going to get caught cheating before someone in that franchise gets in trouble?

    NFL has begun it’s decent. What a Joke. The worst part is Bill does not have to cheat but he can’t control himself because the league is afraid to do something about it.

    Let’s focus on AP and Rice some more and let Kraft sit in the owners box and laugh.

  159. According to the report I heard. When checked , ALL the Pats balls were deflated not just the one that was intercepted. As for the refs, the ball wasnt flat, you wouldn’t notice just picking it up and carrying it, you would only realize if you squeezed the ball like a player would do while catching/carrying it.

    The outcome of the game is irrelevant, you can’t shoot a terminally I’ll patient and say “it didnt effect the final outcome anyway”!

  160. elmerbrownelmerbrown says: Jan 20, 2015 8:33 AM

    Patriots should thank the JETS DOLPHINS BILLS for the easiest road to the SUPER BOWL you could possible have for the last 15 years ! Not only are their balls deflated so is the division they finish first in every year !

    ———————–

    Actually, even if the AFC East is not the toughest division, I could also say that the Colts had an easier road. But they failed, just like the 45-7 score shows.

    AFC North 38 wins
    NFC West 37 wins
    NFC North 35 wins

    AFC West 33 wins (10-6 vs AFC East)
    AFC East 33 wins

    NFC East 32 wins
    AFC South 25 wins
    NFC South 22 wins

    So, why not try to make a story about a deflated football. You know, that football that was in the hands of a COLTS equipment staff member (not a coach, but an EQUIPMENT staff member). And make accusations against the only team in the league that every single fan of all 31 other teams would crucify without any proof of anything?

    I am pretty sure that the EQUIPMENT staff member had everything around him to inflate (or deflate) a football. If we want to talk about conspiracy, let’s talk about real conspiracy!

  161. I’d love to know how many people that are wrapped up in this notion of ball tampering like baseball. So many of you are outraged over a couple psi yet almost every pitcher in baseball has some method for getting additional grip. Guess what, that’s cheating. Maybe Luck likes the ball on the firm side so it’s not really in his best interest to comment on a football being a little on the soft side. The Reds were accused by the Cardinals of tampering with baseballs a few years ago. Guess what, they’re rubbed up by the umpires. The Cardinals felt that the balls were slick and had been messed with. Stop acting like these sports are pure. Everyone is always looking for an advantage.

  162. Roger ….you might want to ask for the video on this one and maybe the footballs …..just wanted to give you a heads up!

  163. uwisheuwereapatsfan2 says:
    Jan 20, 2015 7:55 AM
    1. Pats: win

    2. You: whine

    3. repeat
    _______________________
    Correction…….
    1. Pats: Cheat
    2. Gets caught
    3. Repeat

  164. The idea that a slightly deflated football is somehow easier to throw and catch in rain or snow, seems a bit of a stretch to me. I have thrown deflated balls and caught them before, in the rain, and beautiful sunny weather. They always suck and I would never see it as some sort of way to gain an advantage. Maybe that’s just me, but that’s none of my business…

  165. All you Pats fans and supporters need to get a reality check… It’s such a conspiracy. Everyone is ganging up against us. Everyone is picking on us.. Funny, how come you never hear these allegations against any other team in the NFL? How come this continues to follow New England? How come the NFL has already disciplined them for things in the past.. It’s such a conspiracy and non-story and “hate” that everyone else is wrong and the Pats are just honest team being wrongly accused because everyone is jealous and hates on them.. Keep making that excuse and feeling better about your team.. Whatever helps you justify their actions..

  166. thegenoatkinsdiet says:
    Jan 20, 2015 10:41 AM
    Here is what I learned at school today, mom:

    1) Try to cheat and score a lopsided win, the cheating doesn’t matter.
    2) Follow the rules? Pffft! Just look like I followed the rules.
    3) Winning is everything. Integrity is for chumps.
    4) Reporting a possible issue to the person in charge makes you a whiner.

    —————–
    Here’s a better 4.

    1) People will hate you if you are successful and try to bring you down… Don’t let them.

    2) Even though the USA was founded on the concept of judging people with an assumption of innocence, until proven guilty, that is not human nature, and the media, in an effort to sensationalize and earn more money, will happily influence readers and viewers so that accused entities are convicted by the court of public opinion prior to any official judgement.

    3) No one will forgive you, regardless of the punishment you have suffered, unless that punishment initially destroys your success. Then people are happy to accept you again as you rebuild. See Michael Vick. If you remain successful despite the punishment, everyone will still hate you. See Jimmy Haslam

    4) Ultimately it doesn’t matter what anyone says, you have to believe in yourself.

  167. As for the refs, the ball wasnt flat, you wouldn’t notice just picking it up and carrying it, you would only realize if you squeezed the ball like a player would do while catching/carrying it.———
    Bunk. The ref needs to GRASP the ball so he can wipe all the rain water off of it. Ref would have noticed then.

  168. So we have rumors being spread by one Indianapolis writer and the Colts staff following a crucifixion? Hmmm does anyone else see a problem here? Of course the NFL is going to have an investigation, the media would crush them if they didn’t. They are just paying lip service to every fan out there. So, sorry to say, but this case is about as flimsy as Aaron Hernandez’s alibi. It’s going no where.

  169. Colts complaining that is nothing wrong it goes way back
    After realignment they were in the AFC east and finished last almost every year

    They complained and got themselves relocated to what has been the easiest division in football

    Just shut up and stop complaining

    On to Seattle

    Oh and you can put as many asterisks as you want because they all come after the word
    CHAMPIONS

    Fools

  170. theravens1 says:
    Jan 20, 2015 10:54 AM
    The game should be forfeit, and the Colts should go to the super bowl.
    The Patriots have cheated continually all year, and only just now have been caught. Doing it in this game and previous games.

    The Colts should be going to the Super Bowl!
    I’m not a Colts fan, but a bunch of superficial fines is not enough!! Correct this disaster!! Make it right NFL, or we will begin to believe that you’re in on it as well!!

    ————————-

    Just so you know, the only case of this happening that was ever seen as intentional was at USC… they were fined 25k. It’s not going to be some big issue even in the unlikely event that this is more than a BS claim by the Colts to mess with the Patriots.

  171. nfliferfan22 says:
    Jan 20, 2015 11:19 AM
    All you Pats fans and supporters need to get a reality check… It’s such a conspiracy. Everyone is ganging up against us. Everyone is picking on us.. Funny, how come you never hear these allegations against any other team in the NFL? How come this continues to follow New England? How come the NFL has already disciplined them for things in the past.. It’s such a conspiracy and non-story and “hate” that everyone else is wrong and the Pats are just honest team being wrongly accused because everyone is jealous and hates on them.. Keep making that excuse and feeling better about your team.. Whatever helps you justify their actions..

    ———————————————–
    Simple answer to a simple question. The Patriots have been the best team in the NFL for the past 15 years and people need to fabricate some excuse as to why that is. And sorry, doesn’t change the fact that the Patriots are competing yet again for another Super Bowl.

  172. The refs deserve to be questioned about this too..

    You know if it was replacement officials, the media would be all over how the officials have no control over the game…

    As a High School Official (myself), it would amaze me that under deflated balls would not be questioned during the game.

  173. Someone find footage of Brady laughing off the suggestion that the Pat’s videotaped the Jet’s defensive signal’s. It’s gotta be out there somewhere. Once a cheater always a cheater.

  174. If you’re going to hate the Patriots, like I do, at least hate them for the right reason. Give credit to them for the fact that they have one of the best QBs of all time, and credit to their O-line for protecting him so well over all these years.

    But to be truthful, I’m at a loss as to how anyone outside of New England roots for a team that has a running back who immediately got in trouble with the law in Pittsburgh thanks to his love of weed and then walked off the field before an NFL game was even over, only to get cut and picked up by a team that was then contending for the playoffs.

    Since his college days, Blount has represented all that is wrong in football. That a cretin like Bellichick would pick him up tells me all I need to know about his character.

    Watching Michelle Steele of ESPN almost pee herself in glee in reporting of Blount’s game yesterday, it just reminds us of how low class this team really is.

  175. “The great mystery of the whole SpyGate scandal was why Goodell destroyed the video evidence.”

    I didn’t even know this… this must be why most people know that other teams were on the tapes doing the same thing:

    The most forgotten part of the “SpyGate scandal” is the fact that Goodell played the videos on a loop for reporters at the press conference when he announced his punishment. The reporters got to watch the footage on a loop prior to Goodell’s stepping to the podium.

  176. So, what if we find out they deflated balls the week prior vs the Ravens, a much closer game…think that tilts the game in their favor? I love how patriots fans think the world is out to get them because they are “so good”. When really, people are out to get you because you cheat. The NFL didnt fine your coach $500K in 2007 for the heck of it. Where there is smoke there is fire.

  177. I just flipped on this site to see what the latest story was trashing the Pats. Not disappointed.
    ———————————————————–

    Pats trash themselves with their cheating ways! McDaniels is behind this you can take that to the bank. He has already been caught cheating twice. McDaniels should get a Pete Rose style ban and not be allowed to be associated with the NFL!

  178. Shanahammer says:
    Jan 20, 2015 8:16 AM
    Doesn’t Aaron Rodgers over inflate the balls? Didn’t he admit that to reporters during an NBC broadcast? Is that being investigated ???
    =======================================

    Now… now…..
    The media has chosen the players, coaches and teams they want you to like and which ones they want you to hate and it has very little to do with what actually happens on or off the field.
    This is why Aaron Rodgers is gushed over no matter what his post season record is, how smug is or how backstabbing he is to his own teammates and coaches while people like Belichick are raked over the coals.
    Ben Roethlisberger? All is forgiven!
    Jay Cutler? He is the anti-Christ and they can’t even tell you why.
    Matt Ryan and Cam Newton? Swell guys!
    Tony Romo? Ridicule him no matter what.
    Some players are showing up the other teams and are clowns and vulgar after a TD while some dumb wrestling belt dance or jumping into the stands is cute and accepted.

    They offer you their own good guys and bad guys and expect you to follow the script.

  179. Belichick, Bonds, McGwire, Arod are all in the same boat. All were great at what they did, and would have been HOF if they had played by the rules. Unfortunately, they wanted that extra little leg up and cheated.

  180. So, what you are really saying is…..Chuck Pagano lied when he said he didn’t know anything about an under inflated ball and who might have complained. Is that correct?

    I wonder what the effect is on footballs that are blown up in a 70 degree room and then taken to a 30 degree field for a few hours. PV=nRT. If the ball is blown up to the minimum, would it fall below the minimum in the cold?

  181. Since a referee touches the ball after every play, and puts the ball down before it is snapped…wouldn’t they be able to tell if the ball is under inflated?

    I’m not saying NE wouldn’t try something like that. But would the refs be able to tell if certain balls were a little soft?

  182. Look. I’m a die hard Indy fan and we got our asses handed to us.

    INDY DOES NOT LOOK AT THIS AS A REASON WE LOST. PERIOD.

    HOWEVER, there should be zero tolerance for this. In any position. Even the overinflated for Aaron Rodgers. It’s about the principle of the thing and frankly Patriots will do anything to gain the advantage.

    Sad thing is 90% of the time they don’t need it.

    I say stuff like this needs stiff penalties and frankly it just shows how there are people willing to cheat off the field to win on the field. I have never liked the patriots. Still don’t. With every bone in my body there is hate for this team. However I do respect them for what they do on the field and they had it we didn’t. That’s on the colts. But, when you know it’s going to be windy and rainy and there are deflated balls…there are some stinky clams in the chowder.

  183. Do I think Bill Belichick and the Patriots cheated? Yes. Do I think they care? No. Like does they really give you a clear advantage over the other team? Does it really matter? The Colts are crying because they got spanked on national tv again by the New England Patriots. If you get beat by a team 45-7, I think you have bigger problems then deflated footballs. But I guess if the if they’re found out that they cheated by the NFL, they will be severely penalized, because they’re a repeat offender.

  184. corvetteman6 says:Jan 20, 2015 11:39 AM

    If you’re going to hate the Patriots, like I do, at least hate them for the right reason. Give credit to them for the fact that they have one of the best QBs of all time, and credit to their O-line for protecting him so well over all these years.

    But to be truthful, I’m at a loss as to how anyone outside of New England roots for a team that has a running back who immediately got in trouble with the law in Pittsburgh thanks to his love of weed and then walked off the field before an NFL game was even over, only to get cut and picked up by a team that was then contending for the playoffs.

    Since his college days, Blount has represented all that is wrong in football. That a cretin like Bellichick would pick him up tells me all I need to know about his character.

    Watching Michelle Steele of ESPN almost pee herself in glee in reporting of Blount’s game yesterday, it just reminds us of how low class this team really is.
    ———————————————————

    Hmmmmmmmmm makes you wonder.

    BB: Hey Legarrette, want more playing time? Do something crazy to get yourself kicked off the Steelers and we’ll take you back here since our RB just got put on IR.

  185. So Rodgers is exposed for over inflating the balls on MNF… then they make the point he hasn’t thrown a pick at home since 2012… then he throws 2 picks on the road in a playoff game and no one is talking?

  186. ravanator says:
    Jan 20, 2015 8:11 AM
    So glad my Ravens don’t have to cheat to win a football game. We are the pinnacle of class in the NFL. Great time to be a Ravens fans. So many of you are jealous of our great franchise. Cheers!

    —–

    Three words. Deer Antler Spray

  187. Oh shut up!!
    Bunch of crybabies.
    That’s why the NFL is gonna be flag football by the time these baby cries are done with it.
    If they took the football out before hafttime.Then why did we score more after it was taking out? Dummies!!
    Sameway it could be caught it could be intercepted.So it works both waysExcuses ,Excuses and more excuses everytime the Pats win.
    This is what happens when there tired of seeing you win.
    Get a life.I don’t care if they played with a Nerd football they still wasn’t gonna beat us .Bottomline.
    SO WHO CARES?
    Oh that’s right the hators of the Patriots do.
    Bunch of babies.There’s no crying in football.lmao
    Its on to Seattle why all ya babies whine.
    Lets see what excuse they come up with next when we win the Superbowl.

  188. If I was getting beat down that bad. I’d probably try to come up with a reason,real or not as well. I hope the investigation is thorough and finds the real truth who might do this. The team leading by 30 something points? Or the team who is getting embarrassed.

  189. I’m no Colts fan. This could be the second time the Patriots got caught. The score is irrelevant – who knows what would have happened from the outset anyway? If this turns out to be true, the Patriots should be eliminated from the Super Bowl and the Ravens and Colts should play this weekend for the right to go.

  190. So Pagano lied about knowing about this… then we found out he did know, and he’s the one we’re all supposed to believe?

  191. Double Asterisk!….All you Patriots fans can walk around ass-pattin all you want. If your peers don’t recognize your success then you really don’t have any success. And every non-Patriots fan considers your SBs tainted with giant asterisks. So go ahead and enjoy your so-called accomplishments. Every other fan will always finish talking about your “dynasty” with a “but” or “however”. What’s worst than losing or not making to the SB?…Never being truly recognized for legitimately winning the SBs ..ENJOY!

  192. Aron Rodgers ” ‘I like to push the limit to how much air we can put in the football, even go over what they allow you to do and see if the officials take air out of it.’

    Its only “cheating if the Patriots do it

    , an exchange on the CBS broadcast of the New England Patriots’ road game against the Green Bay Packers on Nov. 30 seems timely to pass along.

    Early in the third quarter, Jim Nantz and Phil Simms had the following discussion on the broadcast:

    Rodgers
    Nantz: We talked to [Aaron] Rodgers about ‘How do you like your footballs?’ Because, you know, you can rub them up before the game. [Phil], you really kind of created that for everybody else in the league.

    Simms: I don’t know if I did, because the quarterbacks got tired of them complaining. But he said something [that] was unique: ‘I like to push the limit to how much air we can put in the football, even go over what they allow you to do and see if the officials take air out of it.’ Because he thinks it’s easier for him to grip. He likes them tight. Of course, he’s got very big hands and you can tell that by watching him play.

    Nantz: You’ve never heard of a guy really desiring a football to be fat and overinflated before, have you?

    Simms: Everybody wants it smaller and soft, so they can dig their fingers into. He’s such a feel thrower. You can tell. The one touchdown he threw down the field to the tight end is such feel; then he flicks it. That shows you he just has great control of it, with his fingers and hand.

    Nantz: He said, ‘God gave me big hands and a strong grip.’

    Simms: You know, the officials do check those footballs and sometimes maybe even get lucky and put an extra half pound of air in there to help Aaron Rodgers out.

  193. Another potential reason – Jackson gave the ball to the Colts equipment guy – he takes ball inflator needle out of his pocket – inserts into football for 2 seconds, VOILA!!!

  194. Stop saying it is just the Colts fans crying. I am a fan of neither team, and what the Patriots do is sickening. What scares me worse is what they get away with what we never find out about.

  195. But did Marshawn wear the regulation color shoes? What about the shoes!!! Dear God think of the shoes!!! What if they aren’t exactly like the league wants them to be! Sweet Jesus let us not forget about the color of the shoes!

  196. If the Patriots are responsible for this there is nothing to stop them from continuing to do this or other nefarious things we don’t know about yet to give themselves an edge. If the discipline for this is just a fine, then whoopty-do. If the punishment has no teeth, Belicheat will keep on cheating, clearly. If you won while cheating, no matter how convincing the victory, the only appropriate response is to forfeit the game do to cheating, and send the Colts to Arizona. That would send a message, and that would stop cheating.

  197. Looks like Aaron Rodgers likes his balls overinflated:

    Nantz: We talked to [Aaron] Rodgers about ‘How do you like your footballs?’ Because, you know, you can rub them up before the game. [Phil], you really kind of created that for everybody else in the league.

    Simms: I don’t know if I did, because the quarterbacks got tired of them complaining. But he said something [that] was unique: ‘I like to push the limit to how much air we can put in the football, even go over what they allow you to do and see if the officials take air out of it.’ Because he thinks it’s easier for him to grip. He likes them tight. Of course, he’s got very big hands and you can tell that by watching him play.

  198. “This is the lowest of the lows, seriously….”

    $$$$$

    NE fan says investigating “inflategate” is wrong, but not his cheating team with a documented historical record of cheating.

    Seriously?

  199. Looks like AAron Rodgers is should be getting a call from the league soon…

    Looks like Aaron Rodgers likes his balls overinflated:

    Nantz: We talked to [Aaron] Rodgers about ‘How do you like your footballs?’ Because, you know, you can rub them up before the game. [Phil], you really kind of created that for everybody else in the league.

    Simms: I don’t know if I did, because the quarterbacks got tired of them complaining. But he said something [that] was unique: ‘I like to push the limit to how much air we can put in the football, even go over what they allow you to do and see if the officials take air out of it.’ Because he thinks it’s easier for him to grip. He likes them tight. Of course, he’s got very big hands and you can tell that by watching him play.

  200. largentthanlife says:
    Jan 20, 2015 8:25 AM
    Well Pats fans? Kinda shoots holes through your “wouldn’t it benefit both teams?” or “Colts are the passing team, it would help them not us.” theories now doesn’t it.

    ———————————————————

    yea, it certainly explains Blounts’ success.

  201. realtimeeyes says:
    Jan 20, 2015 12:15 PM
    Double Asterisk!….All you Patriots fans can walk around ass-pattin all you want. If your peers don’t recognize your success then you really don’t have any success. And every non-Patriots fan considers your SBs tainted with giant asterisks. So go ahead and enjoy your so-called accomplishments. Every other fan will always finish talking about your “dynasty” with a “but” or “however”. What’s worst than losing or not making to the SB?…Never being truly recognized for legitimately winning the SBs ..ENJOY!

    Unfortunately for you and “fans of other teams” those options mean nothing!

    The only opinion that matters is the NFL. And the Patriots are recognized for winning there SB.

    NEWS FLASH: the only people that need to like the Patriots are the people who live in that region.

    Fans of other teams don’t matter.

    Do you really think Cowboys fans or Raiders fans care what fans of other teams think of there team?

  202. So the Refs who handle the ball between nearly every play did not detect anything.

    But Jackson, who had his hands on the ball once during the game, thanks to an interception, notices something and then hands the ball to his equipment staff.

    The ball, now out of sight and in the hands of the opposing team’s staff, gets reported as deflated to Coach Chuck Pagano, who moves the info up the NFL chain of command; The same Chuck Pagano that publicly denied knowing anything about it after the game.

    I hope this gets investigated fully. And if it turns out, as seems most likely, that any shenanigans with the ball were the direct result of tampering by the Colt’s equipment staff, that they get the full suite of fines and lost draft picks they deserve.

  203. What if Tom Brady had thrown an incompletion or thrown the ball away to the Colts Sideline? Wouldn’t a Colts player or staff member have potentially handled the ball when it bounced into their lap?

  204. When someone that hasn’t cheated before doctors the ball the way he likes it, its gamesmanship.

    When a proven and punished cheaters doctors the ball, public perception is that that person is trying to cheat again.

    In life It’s all about perception.

  205. joker65
    Jan 20, 2015, 4:54 AM PST

    So, the referee handled that ball before the snap, didn’t notice anything strange and allowed play.
    ———–
    That’s a good point. Larry Bird doesn’t do as much ball-handling in one night as those refs do in an hour.

  206. How does anyone know Rodgers and the Packers have never cheated before? they are cheating now and nothing is being done about it, who’s to say they haven’t in the past. Just because the Pats have been made the league whipping boy.

  207. Video the colts sideline, then hang the colts by the balls, even the coach. Let them lose draft picks

  208. If it was deflated, better watch video of colts side line, hang coach, player GM by the balls. Then let them lose draft pick.

  209. Who handled the ball last? Their equipment guy touched it. Then Pagano denied knowing anything about the issue when he clearly did. Jackson should gave given it to the referee straight away. They could have tampered it themselves. Who broke the story? An Indy guy.

  210. Aaron Rogers over-inflates, the Panthers heat the balls and yet theres no proof needed in this Kennedy assasination vigilante mob mentality attitude taken on by fans of other teams towards NE. Don’t let facts get in your way haters.

    #Hypocrisy

  211. I hate the patriots but this is nothing new to the game. It happens in college and the NFL with every team. Before and during the game, the ball boys will give balls the qbs and kickers to figure out which one they prefer. During the games the players will tell them to “lose” balls or lighten them up. Happens all the time. And it’s after the refs check them. Refs will tell ball boys to get rid of a ball too. But that only happens when the ball is really dead

  212. Maybe the reason the ball was picked off is that the ball didn’t have enough air in it. If the officials had thrown that ball out, it’s possible the score would have been 52-0 instead of 45-7.

    John Clayton on WEEI just said that this one is just impossible to prove either way unless someone saw someone on the sideline deflating a football.

  213. Some Pats defender stated that the balls were used by both teams, so therefore it was not strictly an advantage to N.E.

    I’m thinking that the Pats used the balls they provided for the game, while the Colts used their own supply.

    Therefore, the Pats are guilty of cheating once again.
    It remains to be seen if the league will destroy the evidence this time around as they did in the past.

  214. Let it be clear…

    This was not asked for by the Colts, has little to do with the Colts, and no Colts Player or Fan really cares much about this.

    We got stomped, we’ll take our beating into the offseason and hopefully learn from it, fill in the voids and attempt to take that next step.

    The beatdown was bad enough. Let this just end as well.

  215. The Pats fans also state that the deflated balls are a non-issue, because the they won by 38 points.

    Someone deflated the balls before the game, not knowing if the game was going to be close or if it was going to be a blowout.

    The intent is clear that had it been a close game, they had this ace up their sleeves to gain an edge.

    The Pats put the deflated ball into play long before the game became a rout.
    So to say that it did not matter is a load of crap.

    The league needs to send a message that this shady crap won’t be tolerated.
    Suspend Belichick for a season, take away some high draft picks, and levy a HUGE fine on the organization.

  216. Unfortunately for you and “fans of other teams” those options mean nothing!

    The only opinion that matters is the NFL. And the Patriots are recognized for winning there SB.

    NEWS FLASH: the only people that need to like the Patriots are the people who live in that region.

    Fans of other teams don’t matter.

    Do you really think Cowboys fans or Raiders fans care what fans of other teams think of there team?

    News Flash: If you didn’t care, your fans would be on here defending the Patriots.

    So sit in an empty room and congratulate yourself.

    And the NFL doesn’t want to tarnish there “historical” past.. that’s why they won’t / didn’t take down your banners.

    Again…Enjoy your tarnished, tainted, meaningless, asterisk laden Super Bowls.

    NO RESPECT FOR YOU!

  217. johnnycantread… appropriate moniker…

    “The most forgotten part of the “SpyGate scandal” is the fact that Goodell played the videos on a loop for reporters at the press conference when he announced his punishment. The reporters got to watch the footage on a loop prior to Goodell’s stepping to the podium.”

  218. refs touch the balls on EVERY play , if they thought there was a problem they stop the game until they get a ball that feels right . they did it once to start the second half , if there had been more problems they would have kept doing it . blame the league not the patriots .

  219. Can someone please explain to these Pat Fans the Refs removed SEVEN of the Cheatroits balls from the game. Not One but SEVEN.

    ===

    That’s what happens when you inflate a bunch of balls to minimum spec pressure (12.5 PSI gauge) in a warm locker room and then leave them out in the cold wind and rain for up to four hours. All of them, not some of them, will be below min spec.

  220. xli2006 says:
    Jan 20, 2015 1:25 PM

    Let it be clear…

    This was not asked for by the Colts, has little to do with the Colts, and no Colts Player or Fan really cares much about this.

    We got stomped, we’ll take our beating into the offseason and hopefully learn from it, fill in the voids and attempt to take that next step.

    The beatdown was bad enough. Let this just end as well.

    unfortunately that isn’t exactly correct..

    When Jackson returned to the sidelines after his pick, he gave it to a member of the Colts equipment staff, who noticed it felt under-inflated.

    The equipment man told coach Chuck Pagano, who relayed the information to General Manager Ryan Grigson, who contacted NFL director of football operations Mike Kensil, who told the officials on the field at halftime.

  221. I don’t believe the [referees] would notice a couple pounds difference in air pressure.
    ===

    Then you’ve never actually refereed anything. I ref soccer and I can tell if a ball is ~.5 PSI low with just my thumbs. Knowing if the football needs more air is something these refs would have learned when they were doing middle school 8-man as teenagers.

  222. To everyone hating on the Pats, you guys are the ones being trolled… by the NFL.

    Spygate and Deflategate. Two things designed to topple the Pats endless winning. First after winning 3 SBs and hardly even slowing down, the NFL finally gets something on them that is technically against the rules, despite other teams doing it as well (check what respected coach Bill Cowher said about it) and deliver the harshest penalty ever set on the NFL team and Head Coach. How did they respond? 16-0

    Pats 1 : NFL 0 : Trolls -1

    Goodell, a NY Jets fan fumes for years, trying to find something to hit them again. Finally, right before they go back to the SB with probably their strongest team since their last SB wins, something comes up. A “possibly under-inflated ball”.

    Who cares that multiple refs handle it every play and somehow never noticed. Who cares that they are tested throughout the game to ensure they remain within standards and those that aren’t are taken out of play.

    He and Irsay (long time loser to the Pats franchise) “leak” information about an investigation to a single Indy beat writer.

    EXPLOSION of new hate and anger that the Pats were found “cheating” again. Goodell and Irsay giggle away like schoolgirls thinking they got the Pats this time…

    Only now that information is coming out, it doesn’t look so solid. Some Colts equipment manager decided it felt soft? Told Pagano, who later lied about knowing anything about it.

    But what’s this? More information about the Vikings deliberately warming up balls against the earlier this season? And the NFL was “aware” (the NFL’s own word used) of the illegal ball tampering yet did nothing. Also Rodgers actually told the media that he likes his balls over-inflated and deliberately tries to get them past the refs because he likes them that way right before the Pats – Packers game? And again, the NFL did nothing.

    But now that it’s the Pats, suddenly it’s a “VERY BIG DEAL” and there’s an investigation that’s going to take just long enough to firmly entrench in everyone’s mind that something happened, but the NFL “could find no evidence of wrongdoing”…

    LOL!

    You’re all being trolled, guys. And man, the NFL can do it better than any of you. Too bad the real info is coming out. That the NFL blatantly overlooked two other ball tamperings but now they are investiging. That the only thing they have on it is a Colts equipment manager that had the ball on his own for an undetermined amount of time before reporting to his HC (that lied about what he knew) that the ball felt deflated.

    Pats 2 : NFL 0 : Trolls -2

    Goodell must be losing his mind right now. And Irsay is probably back to being stone blind drunk, crying his eyes out.

  223. Jesus it must suck to know that one’s team is so bad that all one can do is feel better about their own team by chastising The Patriots…..

  224. You’re right Pats fans, he didn’t NEED to break the rule to win. That’s the point- HE CAN’T HELP HIMSELF! It’s his nature.

  225. Not the first time the Colts go to the league after getting stomped by Patriots in AFC title game.

    When they lost in 2004, they whined about their receivers getting roughed up and ended up getting the rules changed by the league competition committee.

    Stay Classy Colts and Jim Irsay.
    Go Pats!

  226. Aaron Rodgers ADMITTED he over-inflates his balls beyond what the NFL allows to gain a competitive advantage in a published report back in November

    I’m still waiting for a PFT article proclaiming that a scandal – let alone waiting for Roger Goodell to conduct a full blown investigation into “the integrity of the game”

    If I understand the rule correctly then, when the Packers do it, it’s OK, but if the Patriots do it, it’s major national news?

    Can you say “double standard”?

  227. Braking news!
    Amid the credible allegations that the Patriots used deflated balls in Sunday’s AFC Champ game…..an new allegation has beed made that Lagarrette Blount may have had FLUBBER inserts in his cleats.

  228. If there are any people who know something about a witch hunt, it’s those from New England. In light of Rodgers comments (sneaking over inflated balls past refs), the Minny/Carolina game (both teams altering balls, warming them up), and seemingly more instances of ball manipulation coming to light just this year, this reeks of a witch hunt. Congratulations you ignoramuses. By the end of the week, you will look like the zealots of Salem.

  229. This is one of the most entertaining threads I have ever read, you guys are awesome, even the ones I don’t agree with, this is pure gold!

  230. We are not incompetant! The Patriots (mainly Belichick and Brady) must have cheated to kick our butts so badly. No other option possible right? They cheat so much they have gotten more proficient at it than any other team. Logical thinking from trolls.

  231. @orrnumberfour Funny how you use the same words your front office and coach believe everyone to be. Yup, the only intelligent adults in the world live in the north east. Just ask them. Keep up the good work, Bill has you right where he wants you/needs you.

  232. Looks like the league will have to have an impartial third party handle and keep watch over the game ready footballs.

    Quick test each one with a pressure gauge immediately before it gets up into play.

    Force the Pats to play the game fair and square.

  233. Interesting that after “spygate” the Pats really struggled and went 18-1. Also interesting after they played the first half of Sunday’s game with under-inflated footballs, they put up MUCH better numbers in the second half. Again, much ado about nothing. Here is the formula for driving viewership/clicks: media exaggerates situation + customers fall for it = $$. The media is the media, we all know it never reflects reality 100%. The problem here is the dumb fans who believe everything they see on the internet and in the newspaper. Doesn’t change the fact the Pats clearly are an elite organization and it obviously had zero effect on the outcome of the game. I almost wish they’d make them play again just to allow the Pats to showcase their dominance another time.

  234. FYI, the footballs are marked to identify which team they belong to.

    In Super Bowl 47, it was shown on Sound FX that the Ravens were mistakenly playing with a 49’ers ball for a short time.

  235. It doesn’t matter what effect the under-inflated balls had on the game. It’s against the rules, thus illegal.

    And since they did it on purpose, it is, by definition, cheating. Plain and simple.

    That is the bottom line and as simply put as it can be. Nothing else matters.

  236. The Patriots have demonstrated more than once they are willing to break the rules and do whatever is needed to win. Belichek was fined $500,000 for having an assistant spy on the Jets, so is it really out of realm of reality to think they would use under-inflated balls to win? I don’t think the officiating crew was in on it, but simply to stupid to notice. Funny how a linebacker immediately noticed what apparently was undetected by officials handling the balls. The real question to be answered is are league officials making decisions about what teams will win and which ones will lose as a growing number of fans believe? If that charge is true, there is only one reason for it and it is the worst reason possible, sports betting.

  237. I have no idea if this is true or not (like everything on the internet), but I read that when the footballs were tested after the game, 11 of 12 Patriots footballs were underinflated, and 7 of 12 Colts footballs were underinflated. Does anyone know if that’s true? Since the Colts were the ones complaining, it seems strange (or coincidental) if they had underinflated footballs as well.

  238. When I played football, and when I watch games, the refs do not change the ball all of the time, but the do touch the ball after every play! So, a ref would have had to be in any conspiracy to be sure Colts did not get the feel of the ball!
    Then, again, I can’t help wonder why Brady would make the ball easier to intercept?

  239. 11 of 12 so that they had one to give the ref initially and than pull the old switcheroo. Sounds like a con artist’s dream.

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