Report: NFL planned to inspect Patriots football before D’Qwell Jackson interception

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It’s been reported that #DeflateGate got rolling after Colts linebacker D’Qwell Jackson intercepted a ball thrown by Patriots quarterback Tom Brady and took it to the sideline for inspection by the equipment manager, who noticed that the ball was underinflated and passed the information up the flagpole, prompting the NFL to examine the New England footballs at halftime of the game.

According to Jay Glazer of FOX Sports, the NFL already had planned to check the footballs at halftime, based on concerns previously raised by the Colts.  It’s unclear whether the Colts noticed that the balls were deflated during the November 16 regular-season game between the two teams or whether the Ravens (as Glazer suggested) shared the information with the franchise that used to be in Baltimore.  Regardless, the pressure gauges were going to be inserted into the balls regardless of whether Jackson or any other Colts player had gotten his hands on one of the Patriots’ 12 footballs.

Meanwhile, former NFL official Gerry Austin said on ESPN (via Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post) that all 12 of the Colts’ footballs were properly inflated when checked at halftime and that the one out of 12 New England balls that was not two pounds under minimum was still underinflated.

Of course, it’s no surprise that the Indianapolis balls were within acceptable limits.  If the Colts had tipped the league off to the issue before the game, it would have been stupid for the Colts to show up with underinflated balls.

165 responses to “Report: NFL planned to inspect Patriots football before D’Qwell Jackson interception

  1. Where’s the Aaron Rodgers outrage?

    Also, where’s the report of the Patriots using inflated balls in the second half. All this sounds more like a cover up for the refs.

  2. bostonian13 says: Jan 21, 2015 6:59 PM

    Where’s the Aaron Rodgers outrage?

    Also, where’s the report of the Patriots using inflated balls in the second half. All this sounds more like a cover up for the refs.
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    “Bostonian13” I’m sure you’ve objectively looked at this entire situation and came to this conclusion from an unbiased perspective, correct?

  3. Oh so it’s clear that this is a witch hunt, where is the investigation into Green Bay when rogers admits he over inflates balls, where are the fines against Minnesota for heating ball on the sideline this season.

    No interest in investigating Ray rice smashing his girlfriends face

    No conflict of interest as roger also worked with the jets and the Eagles when they lost to the pats in he Super

  4. This can’t be true. Why not test them right before kickoff so you can maintain the validity of the game. NFL is so dumb if they actually planned that

  5. This is such a ridiculous non-story I don’t know how it got blown up so bad…oh wait, that’s right – this is the Pats. I guarantee you if this was any other team it would have been swept under a rug and forgotten. I also guarantee that if the Colts had won the game or the score was much closer we wouldn’t have heard about this “scandal” at all. Only reason we found out about this was because the Colts embarrassed themselves in the AFC Championship. F— the Colts!

  6. So this is why benjarvis green ellis went his whole patriot career without a single fumble then came to cincinnati and couldnt hold on to the football. The bengals were fleeced and the patriots should have to repay the bengals every dime they paid green Ellis

  7. Yes, the officials planned to check the inflation at halftime. Just like they planned to ask the casino for the Ray Rice tape. Only wish TMZ had broken this story too.

  8. If they can prove that Belichick had the balls tampered with after inspection he should be suspended. I feel that offense should be on par with Sean Payton denying that the Saints had a bounty system, and that cost him a YEAR.

  9. B-O-R-I-N-G.

    Lets make a big deal over something that EVERY TEAM does.

    The NFL is trying to find a way to look like they did not know that this has been happening for years. What-say Roger? What did you know and when did you know it?

  10. Deflating the ball makes it easier to catch, over inflating it would in-turn make it harder to catch. So, Aaron Rodgers won’t get any outrage because he is making it harder for his team to catch the ball. At least that is what I gathered from the 15 articles I’ve read about this.

  11. Well this story may continue up to the draft then who knows what scandalous events will occur up to training camp then the new season continues. There is always something going on to keep the nfl in the headlines. No wonder the owners rake in billions….the marketing is incredible.

  12. How about this. Given that the balls we exchanged at halftime, let’s give the game the final score after the half and call it a day: 28-0. Now, on to the SB!

  13. So the Colts raised questions about proper inflation back in November and the NFL decieded to wait to the AFC championship to check the Pats balls. Yeah that sounds like a league concerned about integrity.

  14. John Harbaugh, amidst one of his patented temper tantrums, told the colts to make sure their balls were properly inflated ahead of time, knowing that the patriots would not bother to check since most teams do this and everyone has a gentleman’s agreement to not mention anything. Everything makes sense now.

  15. Of course they did the same thing against Baltimore the week before. They couldn’t line up 11 on 11 and beat the Ravens, they needed both deflated balls and illegal formations.

    Belicreep and Brady are CHEATERS!!!!!!!

  16. I’ve been a Pats fan for 25+ years. This is all extremely disappointing. Another stain on the franchise. Another asterisk in the eyes of the public. I love this team to death, but how can I continue to honestly respect them?

  17. So what took them so long then? Why wait until now to fully investigate? This doesn’t sound like an organization that’s trying to regain its credibility.

  18. These guys are serial cheaters…
    “The Patriot Way*”
    Bob Kravitz and Don Shula should be getting many apologies…

  19. Really a lot of crap! Making something out of nothing, everything the NFL does well they take full credit for, anything that is wrong they blame anyone except, God for bid the referees!

  20. I believe that this reinforces the idea that the underinflated balls were less about advantage and more about preference. And this puts this into the same category as Rodgers et al comments about what they do to their footballs. According to this article the Colts expressed concern after the game in Indy. If this was done to gain an advantage outdoors then why was it also happening in a heated indoor dome stadium? It seems to me that, if they were intentionally underinflated, it was because Brady likes them that way and not to gain an advantage in a cold/outdoor environment.

  21. good to know the Pat’s have been cheating all year. Sean Payton get’s banned for a year for fostering a hard hitting defense.

    Belicheck needs to be banned from the Superbowl and all of next year for skirting the rules that impacts the Integrity of The Game and SHIELD! He controls everything that team does and if not him it’s brady doing it.

    As a fan I don’t really care if players get arrested off the field but I won’t continue to watch a product that allows continued cheating by the same team.

  22. If you take two identical Wilson game “Duke” balls and inflate them to three pounds difference, it is unbelievably difficult to tell the difference between the two unless you have them both in your hands at the same time. Even then, it is still not easy. This makes the D’Quell Jackson assertions completely disingenuous. What does that have to do with anything? It means that this was a premeditated setup with Chuck Pagano as the central figure. He was just waiting for the opportunity to say that something was suspicious, and Jackson getting his hands on the ball was the opportunity he was waiting for. We know he talked to Ravens personnel, used to work for them, and they all have an ax to grind with Belichick. This whole thing was a complete effort to embarrass and knock down Belichick because there is more than one reason he is hated. Jealousy over success, anger over Spygate, field communications and use of rules to deceive by using never seen formations are all relevant to Belichick’s detractors. The topic of doctoring the ball for QB’s preferences is illegal, period. It is also something that is violated by many teams every single week in the NFL, you are hearing more and more people admit that. It is also the perfect situation to get revenge on Belichick, and no one else will ever have their reputation irrepareably damaged. So many have done it and have gotten away with over the years because the NFL does not think that it is a matter that has a meaningful effect on games. It is nearly irrelevant in its effects, but it is technically a violation of the rules. The revenge of Pagano and all the other haters will have Bill Belichick paying the price for all who have ever done this.

  23. If they can prove that Belichick had the balls tampered with after inspection he should be suspended. I feel that offense should be on par with Sean Payton denying that the Saints had a bounty system, and that cost him a YEAR.

    The two offenses are hardly equitable. In Bounty Gate they were trying to hurt players and knock players out of games, potentially even destroying their season. Assuming there’s any truth that this was done deliberately on the part of the Patriots, tampering with the ball so that it’s just the way the quarterback likes it, has been in the NFL for years and hardly raises to the same level of concern. It’s your undying hatred of the Patriots that fuels your unreasonable suggestion.

  24. Sports media is enjoying this situation way too much. By the time the Super Bowl gets here the media will have already beaten all the remaining air out of the ball.

  25. Why does each team have their own balls? It just invites cheating. Also why dont they check the balls right before kickpff instead of 2 hours before kickoff? As successful as the NFL is, they don’t have alot if common sense.

  26. The Colts reported the Patriots twice to the League. Of course, they’re NOT going to come into the stadium with underinflated balls. Made sure they got their ducks in a row before they snitched. Twice. Duh.

    Think this would have come out if the Colts had won twice???

  27. Hey Patriot fans why is it that every team cheats but your team is the only one getting caught? That belicheat doesn’t sound too much like a genius if thats the case…..

  28. Drip…..Drip… Drip… information drip…. STOP ! The NFL is looking to play Ray Rice #2. They are leaking information instead of releasing an official report. The sooner the better for the facts to come out. Now we move on to The Super Cheater Bowl between the two biggest cheating teams representing the A.F.C. and N.F.C. 2015 is starting like 2014 ended for the league,scandal ,shame,and a battered and tarnished shield.

  29. Goodell was going to have the same lady who confirmed to the cops she got the elevator videotape personally check these footballs at halftime. Because that’s the kind of thorough, beyond-reproach job Goodell does.

  30. So NE out scores Indy in the first half 17-7 with the “softer” under inflated balls. Inflate them up at halftime and NE goes 28-0 on Indy in the 2nd half with properly inflated balls. They should have kept quiet and left the air out of the balls.

  31. Just because the Colts’ footballs were within limits it doesn’t mean they didn’t deflate. There’s a tolerance of 1 psi (or is it 1.5 psi?) between the upper and lower limits.

  32. So the entire second half when Brady played his best, was played with fully inflated balls?

    Someone should look into whether the Colts are the ones who deflated them

    QB after QB is coming forward saying they all do it

    This is much ado about nothing

    This story started with a tip to a Colts reporter – seems like they intended to create a controversy where non exists from the start

  33. Seems like a witch hunt to me. The NFL picks and chooses its integrity issues then tries to make a big splash by punishing one team, when over half the league had similar ball, and bounty issues.

    Where was the integrity concerns when they fined Dallas and Washington for not abiding to the secret cap, in an uncapped year? Sounds like league collusion against the players by the owners and Rog to me.

    Where is the integrity concerns when two playoff games this year were blatantly determined by bad officiating calls? Dez had control, got his feet down, landed on his knees, body and elbow with control before the ground caused it to pop out. Lions got hosed on a PI call that was announced, marked off and spotted then mysteriously taken away.

    Replacement refs do not equal integrity.

    Get over the stupid ball issue or at least investigate Green Bay as Rodgers admitted to trying to over inflate his. Quit picking scapegoats.

  34. If the league was so suspicious why wouldn’t they re-check the balks immediately before the game? The league that tells a guy what color shoes to wear doesn’t keep control of the balls the game is played with. Something fishy hear.

  35. Sure, the league planned on inspecting the Pats footballs…right. If they were suspicious then why didn’t they “plan” on inspecting the Patriots footballs during Ravens game? or any other game in the season since the Nov Colts game.

  36. Meanwhile, former NFL official Gerry Austin said on ESPN (via Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post) that all 12 of the Colts’ footballs were properly inflated when checked at halftime and that the one out of 12 New England balls that was not two pounds under minimum was still underinflated.
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    I listened to him. He said all 12 balls were at least 2psi under at halftime. 11 of 12 were more than 2psi under. 2psi would be @ 15% reduction in air pressure. So we aren’t talking about a minuscule amount.

  37. Crazy that the Pats are the only team in the league that now has not just one “Gate” but two!

  38. Prediction: The Patriots will blame some low-level coach or assistant and the NFL will make a future rule change to make it seem not-so-bad.

  39. Very significant information (if true). If all 12 Colts’ game balls were properly inflated but 11 of the 12 Patriots’ game balls were under-inflated, that sure seems to rule out weather as the cause of the under-inflation. That, in turn, makes it look more and more like a purposeful act by the Patriots.

    Of course, it’s fair to ask how a former NFL official, who’s been retired for several years, is privy to this inside information on last Sunday’s game balls. Since he wasn’t there, wouldn’t his information have to be second- or third-hand?

  40. Tccoats they used to, Peyton lobbied to the league to allow the QBs to alter certain aspects of new footballs because it’s widely accepted that the majority of QBs like their balls a little different. Some like them nice and crisp, others a little more broken in, others smooth and soft, and others even dirty and scuffed.

  41. Anyone who has ever inflated a football knows that the mere act of inflating it or checking pressure in it causes a small amount of pressure loss, due to connecting and disconnecting the test gauge.

    Which if the pressure inside the football is so freakin’ critical brings into question: are the pressure gauges used by both the NFL and the teams equipment guys calibrated to NIST standards? If not, then as when the man with two watches never knows what time it is, the guy with two gauges never knows what the pressure is.

  42. Goodell’s not fooling anybody thinking Jay Glazer is just popping up with these news dribbles. He should either clamp it down shut or just come out with dailies.

  43. jamaltimore says: Jan 21, 2015 7:11 PM

    As a fan I don’t really care if players get arrested off the field but I won’t continue to watch a product that allows continued cheating by the same team.

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    So it’s OK when Ray Rice knocks his fiance out, but heaven forbid someone under inflate the ball – I won’t stand for that!

    Did you request all of the weekly inflation statistics from all other teams in the league before renewing your Sunday Ticket subscription this past season?

    Seriously? Seems like an odd moral compass to me.

  44. The NFL knew about this two months ago and WAITS to have an investigation now?…….after AFC Championship week?

    Yeah, that sounds and looks totally credible NFL.

    Makes total sense…..

    You know what, the NFL under Goodell has been such a train wreck, I wish he didn’t destroy the spygate tapes..they probably were a bunch movies of the sideline cheerleaders with an occasional shot at a defensive coach but he had Belichick nailed cause it was from a non-designated filming area.

    NFL is so corrupt

  45. Lets look at the likely scenario here. The patriots deny knowledge of the situation, blame the young kid on the sideline. A fine is handed down to the team and they may lose a 3rd or a 4th round draft pick. Which they don’t mind losing because they have just won this past years super bowl. Its gonna be a great victory next week.

  46. This is getting weirder by the minute, why tarnish a legacy to win a winnable game, is not like the Pats needed to do that. Assuming that they have been doing this for quite a while, this was the game when they didn’t need to do it.

  47. Why not post the report from NFL sources that shows that NFL replaced the balls in the second half and the Patriots dominated 28-0. That’s out there and NESN is reporting on it.

  48. There is a bigger issue here that needs to be addressed.

    I think the EEOC needs to get in touch with the NFL to provide guidance on Reasonable Accommodation and Undue Hardship Under the Americans with Disabilities Act.

    Is the PSI requirement an undue hardship creating an obstacle for quarterbacks with smaller hands?

    Could smaller hands be considered a disability for quarterbacks?

    Would “reasonable accommodation” include the allowance of a lower PSI for footballs used by individuals with smaller hands?

    Would such a change create a more level playing field for quarterbacks regardless of hand size?

    In a separate, but somewhat related issue that may require investigation, could Aaron Rodgers’ comments that there should be a minimum PSI but not maximum PSI for footballs be construed as discriminatory against quarterbacks with smaller hands?

    I do hope that Tom Brady and other smaller handed quarterbacks are not stigmatized by this and that this story brings to light the need for change of this NFL rule on PSI in footballs.

  49. maybe Pagano should’ve spent some of the week devising a game plan instead of scheming to torpedo the Pats for something that every team in the league does

  50. Now this just just in: According to Insider Buzz on the Bleacher Report, deflating footballs is commonplace in the NFL. Even if the Patriots are caught doing this, it seems to be an endemic issue in the NFL and by no means should the Patriots be singled out for punishment.

  51. If they can prove that Belichick had the balls tampered with after inspection he should be suspended.
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    What if they can only prove that he filled them with hot air knowing what would happen when the air cooled? Is that “tampering with the ball”?

  52. So let me see if I got this right the Patriots played with underinflated balls in the first half and Brady was 11 for 21 but in the second half when he’s playing with normal backup balls in the second half he goes 12 for 14? Isn’t the goal of cheating to gain an actual advantage? Seems to me the Colts should have kept the balls flattened if that’s the case.

  53. Not a single person reading, reporting, or commenting on this RIDICULOUS saga who is not an NFL QB could tell the difference between a Football inflated to 14psi and one inflated to 11psi.

    That’s what makes this story so crazy. They. Should be punished harshly not for “cheating” but for being plain stupid. The risk so far outweighed any advantage here you would have to assume that Belichick must have some sort of mental condition that prevents him from controlling himself. There is no other logical reason I can think of.

    It must be maddening to be a patriots fan right now. I ALMOST feel sorry for them. But as Bill himself likes to say to the media ” It is what it is.”

  54. There is always going to be cheating. Anyone knows with half brain knows that half the league is juicing and each team least have one player who has been busted in the last year (browner and landry). At the end of the day the nfl looks stupid for not doing a proper job and should be taking the care of the balls themselves.

  55. All of the Patriots fans stating that this is no big deal is just laughable. The Patriots broke the rules AGAIN! For whatever reason Belichick just can’t help himself. He needs to be suspended for the entire 2015 season and New England has to forfeit their first round pick to the Colts. The league shouldn’t suspend Belichick for the Super Bowl. He should have to answer the hundreds of questions regarding the cheating. Bill Belichick thinks he’s above the law and the rest of the world is sick and tired of his garbage. He’s an arrogant douche and has zero integrity. This is now permanently stamped as his legacy and I for one am loving every second of it. Suck on that, Pats fans. It couldn’t happen to a more deserving group of arrogant, excuse-making tools!

  56. So it’s a conspiracy to screw the Patriots cooked up by Harbaugh and Pagano after the previous week. Why wouldn’t the league issue a warning to the Patriots instead of trying to catch them at halftime in the playoffs in a set up by their opponent, who clearly would have make sure the balls were correctly inflated. Shady business by the league. It also seems the league didn’t inform the patriots after the November incident. More shadiness.

  57. First, the league needs to tell us everything they know and hand down a punishment so everyone can move on, enough with bits and pieces being leaked by “league sources”, secondly of course the Colts balls all passed the test they tipped the league off so they were prepared, third Pagano is a liar, claiming yesterday he knew nothing, man up, you called the league, own it and lastly maybe if Pagano actually prepared his team for the AFC Championship game instead of just planning on catching the Patriots doing something that it appears everyone does, they may have had a shot.

  58. Not a Patriots fan, but the NFL can’t see the forest for the trees. Rules that make no difference, like the ball pressure specification are ridiculously detailed. Or keeping your socks up, or not talking with the media, yada, yada, yada. Over detailed, and overly punished.

    But then they blow it on stuff that matters. Part-time refs that don’t really know the rulebook. Stomp on somebody? “Well, it’s been a while since you did it the last time, so go ahead and play.” The ground can’t cause a fumble unless you are a receiver. And on and on.

    The rule for the football should be easy. “The NFL will provide the footballs and you must use the ones we provide. You can inflate them and scuff them however you like. You cannot put anything sticky on them. You can heat them or cool them during the game as you wish, as long as the other team has the ability to do the same.”

  59. I listened to him on Mike and Mike this morning and Gerry Austin stated that he got this information from Walt Anderson who was the official at the game who approved the balls. He stated that they tested and approved all the balls before the game and then retested all the balls at halftime and all the Colts balls were find and 11 of the 12 patriots balls were deflated. He said he was not aware whether they changed the balls at halftime or not but assumed they would have. Now my question is if they tested them again at the end of the game because what’s to say the Patriots didn’t deflate them again after halftime.

    At what point does the NFL say enough is enough to Belichick just crapping on the rules. It’s pretty obvious this was done on purpose and who knows how many other games they did this? This was the only game they rechecked the balls at half time. How about if this happened in the Super Bowl and they won be 2 points? How is that fair.

  60. This is starting to sound like “Rally Around the Shield” time by Goodell and Co.

    What do we know so far?

    Vikings heated their balls up, NFL was aware, did nothing.

    Rodgers purposely overinflates his balls, and the refs smile and nod.

    Now it’s national headlines that the Pats underinflate there balls. What happens?

    Investigation. Little bits of info being leaked, all to make it look like the NFL didn’t know this was happening.

    But they also knew about before hand, and were planning on investigating based on prior info from last year. But didn’t investigate before, because… why exactly?

    Or why not investigate the other infractions that have been reported/known about?

    It seems to me it all points to a wink and nod kind of thing with the refs. They “test” the balls, but know which teams like their footballs which way, and let things slide.

    Now that it’s in the open, well, it’s not the refs or the rules or “The Shield’s” fault… It’s the Patriots’ fault. And it’ll be easy to scapegoat them. Why?

    Because the public generally hate them so it will be easy for the public to buy it and move on from the real problem. That the refs wink and nod to the rules, not actually follow them.

  61. In today’s USA Today they report that it’s not easy at all to deflate 11 balls to within the critical tolerance reported in today’s reports, given the timeframe from the time the balls are handed over to the ball boys, and the time that the ball boys are on the field when they’re in full public view. This should also be borne in mind before people start getting ahead of themselves and blaming the Patriots as knowingly deflating the balls.

  62. thekiller678 says:
    Jan 21, 2015 7:02 PM
    bostonian13 says: Jan 21, 2015 6:59 PM

    Where’s the Aaron Rodgers outrage?

    Also, where’s the report of the Patriots using inflated balls in the second half. All this sounds more like a cover up for the refs.
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    “Bostonian13″ I’m sure you’ve objectively looked at this entire situation and came to this conclusion from an unbiased perspective, correct?

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    He’s right, this site is missing confirmed reports they are intentionally choosing not to publish.

  63. -Rodgers didn’t say he liked them over inflated, he said he likes them on the high end of the maximum allowed-

    -No one said the Colts would have won, the issue is did the Patriots cheat (once again) and have they been cheating all year giving them home field advantage in the playoffs?

    -Finally, even if everyone was doing it, should they be made an example of like New Orleans was with some major suspensions and fines?

  64. “If the footballs were altered in the AFC Championship Game — or any game — Hall of Fame coach John Madden suggests the primary suspect behind whatever happened should be the quarterback, in this case New England’s Tom Brady.”

  65. reebsta says:
    Jan 21, 2015 7:34 PM
    First, the league needs to tell us everything they know and hand down a punishment so everyone can move on, enough with bits and pieces being leaked by “league sources”, secondly of course the Colts balls all passed the test they tipped the league off so they were prepared, third Pagano is a liar, claiming yesterday he knew nothing, man up, you called the league, own it and lastly maybe if Pagano actually prepared his team for the AFC Championship game instead of just planning on catching the Patriots doing something that it appears everyone does, they may have had a shot.

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    Amen!

  66. Another angle on manipulating the footballs. Someone could reduce the pressure on even a moderately cold day without physically letting air out of the football. Heat the balls up in a warm environment, then inflate them to the minimum 12.5lbs just before the referee inspection. The surface will cool quickly so the ref won’t be alerted, but the ball will still be warm inside. The balls then ho outside, but on a 51 degree day, the difference in temperature could be 30-40 degrees below when they were filled. When cooled, the pressure easily drops below 12.5, without removing air. If the Patriots had gotten any ideas about Pagano’s setup, they could easily pass the inspection and accomplish the same goal without the risk of someone getting caught deflating. Of course, if someone did let the air out, it would take some time and you couldn’t be discreet with all the cameras trained on the field. We should know that definitively when the league makes that announcement. If no photographic evidence or witnesses, how could the league penalize?

  67. again the nov 16 game was in indy , home teams provide the balls for both sides , they are given the balls 2 hours before the game to scuff up how they want , then they checked for air pressure after that. colt employees are in charge of them even on the patriot bench (which is a terrible rule) they only way altering of the air pressure happens if the league knows about and don’t care because they want happy qb’s that score allot for the biggest rating .

  68. Cheating is only cheating if you get caught and punished.
    Holding is cheating … Right?
    Every team holds on every play … the problem is the refs call more holds on some teams and less on other teams … that’s the problem.
    The Pats got caught cheating … so what. The Pats are laughing all the way to the Super Bowl.

  69. chillyball says:
    Jan 21, 2015 7:34 PM
    For as much as I don’t like the packers, at least they have honor. The pats are honor less cheats.

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    What honor? Look at all the crap they’ve done with their field over the years to gain advantage.

  70. I don’t know what’s more annoying:

    the fact that the Pats would do something so stupidly unnecessary in order to get an edge; or

    that as a result of getting caught the Pats fans start whining about how they are the victims of a massive conspiracy.

  71. “Where’s the Aaron Rodgers outrage?”
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    It’s absent because it’s different. Rodgers said he wanted to put as much PSI in the football that the refs would allow before the game. The Patriots had their footballs approved before hand, then the footballs ended up being under-inflated after being approved. A completely different situation.

  72. abninf says:
    Jan 21, 2015 7:19 PM
    Meanwhile, former NFL official Gerry Austin said on ESPN (via Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post) that all 12 of the Colts’ footballs were properly inflated when checked at halftime and that the one out of 12 New England balls that was not two pounds under minimum was still underinflated.
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    I listened to him. He said all 12 balls were at least 2psi under at halftime. 11 of 12 were more than 2psi under. 2psi would be @ 15% reduction in air pressure. So we aren’t talking about a minuscule amount.

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    How do you know what is minuscule? The referees could notice it if it was too much when they grabbed them. If the officials let them play a half, what the hell were they thinking. Looking at ESPN today, you can easily notice 2 psi by grabbing the ball like any ref would do.

  73. If as many folks here are saying this is just a witch hunt over nothing… then tell me how is it that all of the Patriots footballs checked out fine 2 hours before the game, and then at halftime all of them were under inflated, with 11 of them underinflated by 2 PSI… If it didn’t matter why did someone make the effort to deflate the balls? Sure you can blame the refs for not catching it sooner, but the responsibility for rests with the Patriots coaches, players and organization. Repercussions should be severe.

  74. The pats should lose the entire 2015 Draft class and Belicheat and Bob Kraft should be fined $1 million each for every time they duck the questions regarding their pattern of cheating behavior next week. They are a black eye on professional sports and sportsmanship as a whole! If the NFL gave a damn about what kind of message they are promoting they would make the Pats forfeit the game and let the Colts in. They suspend drug users but two-time cheaters get to play with a punishment to be named later? Oh and I really believe that nobody at the league office saw the ray rice tape too! Goddell is ruining the greatest sport in the world and will continue doing it until we stop watching.

  75. The reduction in PSI will happen with temperature.
    No tampering, deflation is necessary.
    No rule violation.

    NFL has to Prove tampering, when there was none.
    Leaguer has nothing to say,because they know nothing.

    So, it will roll on, unanswered.
    Haters hate, lovers love,
    life and the game goes on.

    Later this week a teary Mr Wilson declares the game to be the final, battle of good vs evil.

    Ratings will be a moonshot.

  76. They should lose a first round pick. The rules are the rules and Belichick clearly has zero respect for any of them.

    Under-inflated balls are easier to throw, easier to catch, and harder to fumble. It is breaking the rules to tilt the playing field in your favor regardless of whether the outcome of this particular game was ever in question or not.

  77. frenzy95 says: Jan 21, 2015 7:06 PM

    Deflating the ball makes it easier to catch, over inflating it would in-turn make it harder to catch. So, Aaron Rodgers won’t get any outrage because he is making it harder for his team to catch the ball. At least that is what I gathered from the 15 articles I’ve read about this.

    You are leaving out the part of the 15 stories that also says that an overly inflated ball promotes tighter spirals, better trajectory, better aerodynamics and improved velocity and much much better accuracy. What good is a better grip if if you are throwing wobbling ducks and have less accuracy. The wind plays havoc with an under-inflated ball. Also, while true, tossing a deflated ball to someone is softer to catch, it is far easier to catch a ball while running full speed, with a tight spiral. Compare it to hitting a fastball in baseball to a knuckleball. Everyone would choose the fastball hands down over the knuckleball.

  78. This whole thing smells to me. If the Colts and the NFL had suspicion that the Patriots were using inflated balls, then why not go to them BEFORE the AFC championship game and bring it up to them? Why set a trap at the AFC Championship and perform some stupid sting operation and ruin that game? All the NFL had to do was pick up the phone and call the Patriots. Were they too busy to do that??

  79. So let me get this straight…the people that are so concerned with the integrity of the game knew of a potential issue and their plan was to let them play with suspect balls for half a game before testing? Why not randomly test a couple during one of the first timeouts….or better yet, bring out the backup balls and switch bags and then lock up the balls they’d thought they’d be using and test them at the half.

    Makes no sense to let a team go ahead and use balls you believe were tampered with. It also makes no sense to wait from November until January to run a “sting” operation.

    Not saying that the Pats didn’t tamper with the ball, but if this is how the NFL planned this they clearly aren’t as concerned about the integrity of the game as they claim to be.

  80. >>>The reduction in PSI will happen with temperature.<<<<

    If that was the case then the footballs that the Colts had would be similarly deflated… they were not… so tampering occurred and should be punished… Severely…

  81. I would think a qb throwing the ball would know the difference.. I mean after 40,000 yards you would think.
    Anyway, for all you “colts” blamers – its not their responsibility to check the balls. Its like having someone rip you off and they blame you for not locking the door tighter.

  82. metitometin says:

    Jan 21, 2015 8:20 PM

    This whole thing smells to me. If the Colts and the NFL had suspicion that the Patriots were using inflated balls, then why not go to them BEFORE the AFC championship game and bring it up to them?

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    Check out PFT’s article at January 21, 2015, 12:16 PM EST, “Report: Colts told NFL of inflation concerns after November game vs. Pats.”

  83. so all you random patriot fans …what are the odds that exactly 11 of 22 (or 10) random footballs were 2 lbs underpressured? If you believe that luck , you best go buy a lottery ticket. Its pathetic this team is going to get away with it. I would kick them out of the superbowl for cheating, but that’s me.

  84. The patriots legacy is forever tarnished after spygate and deflategate. Shame on their organization. The only superbowls that will ever count for the team will be in the eyes of pats fans and not the rest of the nfl.

  85. Really!?!?!?! I wanna watch the best football possible! Oh no a few psi either way. Now I know some of you will be thinking well if you wanna see the best football possible, let them take ped’s. The problem with this is you might be forcing players to take them that would rather not. Ex. lets say superstar level is 5 and player A is at a 3 but with ped’s he gets pumped up to a 6 now the true superstar is no longer a superstar so he has to take them to become an 8 and regain his elite level. I’m just guessing that most if not all ped’s are bad for your overall health, so if they are allowed it could force someone that doesn’t want to risk his health to do just that.

    Lets look at Fran’s claim on CNN that all teams are taking ped’s. Most look at him like Christopher Columbus, Whats that you say the world is round. Hahaha what a quack. I give you a C’mon man look at the evidence. What would happen if everyone was jacked up to the max, injury’s would go through the roof. Oh wait if you look at it injurys are way up! Dont try to tell me players are tougher this day in age because I think the players from the 80’s are way tougher than players today! (I dont know when the rules changed to make the sport softer but i’m just saying old time football was way more violent then it is today)

    Explorer

  86. metitometin says:
    Jan 21, 2015 8:20 PM

    This whole thing smells to me. If the Colts and the NFL had suspicion that the Patriots were using inflated balls, then why not go to them BEFORE the AFC championship game and bring it up to them? Why set a trap at the AFC Championship and perform some stupid sting operation and ruin that game? All the NFL had to do was pick up the phone and call the Patriots. Were they too busy to do that??
    _________________________
    And if you were going to do a sting would you do it during one of the home games the Pats had in December? The NFL didn’t even know if the Pats and Colts would meet in the playoffs…so why wait?

  87. abninf says: Jan 21, 2015 7:19 PM

    Meanwhile, former NFL official Gerry Austin said on ESPN………………………………………………………

    Former official…. former? He said he was convinced of it. But could not substantiate it? That’s your smoking gun? This is why so many people laugh at you people.

  88. If I hear one more pats fan say it doesn’t matter I’m gonna puke. How can any real fan say cheating in any way is okay????
    Raising a bunch of fine cheating youth in the New England region.

  89. If the NFL knew in advance there might be a problem with the Patriots’ balls, the NFL should have checked the pounds psi then kept both teams’ balls secure throughout the game. By not doing that and letting this thing escalate as it has, it appears the league wanted the Patriots to be caught in a national cheating scandal. Yes, you can argue the Pats wouldn’t be in this situation if they hadn’t tampered with the balls. But we’ve already heard this is a common occurrence in the league–and the front office knows it.

    So why throw the Patriots under the bus when doing so makes the entire league look bad? This is about more than one team underinflating balls.

  90. Let’s not forget, folks. This is the same city (Boston) that turned a blind eye to Red Sox steroids use. The Mitchell report implicated Ortiz. We all know the story on Manny Ramirez. No need to go on with more names. However, the 80+ year drought of World Series championships blinded the fans to reality. Why should we expect them to view deflategate any differently given their history?

  91. Check out PFT’s article at January 21, 2015, 12:16 PM EST, “Report: Colts told NFL of inflation concerns after November game vs. Pats.”
    ————————————————————
    They didn’t bring it up to the Pats whatsoever the NFL said absolutely nothing to them. If they were so keen on the integrity of the game you do something right there and then but if you are waiting for a juicier story then leak something out after the AFC Title game.

  92. As far as those that say the Colts footballs would have measured illegal if the temperature was a factor, consider this. If the Colts footballs were inflated to 14.5 pounds, there would be a margin of error of 2lbs. in reduction. If the Patriots footballs started at 12.5 pounds, there is no margin for error. That argument does not hold water.

  93. patriotsking says:
    Jan 21, 2015 7:08 PM
    I’ve been a Pats fan for 25+ years. This is all extremely disappointing. Another stain on the franchise. Another asterisk in the eyes of the public. I love this team to death, but how can I continue to honestly respect them?
    ****************************************

    Wow you don’t sound like a Pats fan….if you are I have mad respect for you after reading what most Pats are saying on this board….sometimes you have to say my team screwed up, just like some of the Viking and Ravens fans did..never expected it from a patriot fan…..congrats

  94. It is always somebody else’s fault with Pats fans. And instead of dealing with the facts, they talk about Rogers, Pagano, referees, and anything else to deflect blame. Face it. Your genius coach and hall of game QB cheat. The sooner you accept that your life will not be consumed with defending a tarnished legacy.

  95. NOW WE ALL KNOW THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT BEIBER….. I MEAN BRADY! NO WONDER ANYONE CAN COME INTO THE PATRIOTS SYSTEM AND SUCCEED. THEY ARE USING NERF FOOTBALLS IN PRACTICE AND DUPLICATING THEM BY DEINFLATING THE BALL COME GAME TIME!!

  96. Here’s ANOTHER story that NO ONE KNOWS whether it’s true or not yet it gets reported as news. This story alone refutes two prior reported stories: (1) that the investigation got rolling AFTER the Jackson interception – we’re now told the NFL was going to look into it BEFORE that happened and (2) that the Colts notified the league of strange goings-on back in November when they played the Patriots and lost – now “it’s unclear”. Now we’re supposed to take hearsay from Gerry Austin who was nowhere near the stadium on Sunday night as gospel.

    There’s a whole lot of irresponsible reporting going on here. So much for journalistic integrity.

  97. Everyone cheats; Patriots are the only ones that get caught. It’s because they’re so good……People just want to hate! Keep believing that Patriot fans

  98. 0 meters is the maximum effective range of an excuse. It’s a terrible weapon to use so I suggest Pats fans and any other supporters of classless pathological cheaters to try another approach and just admit the obvious. Now, the sad part is the time frame in which it took the NFL to do something about it. That is the disturbing part. From Nov till now is a joke. There is no integrity in the league office and after a year like this past one, I don’t see how the owners can continue to employ Lord Roger. I know Vince McMahon has made an empire, but we don’t need another man soap opera.

  99. Is there anyone out there who would like to actually SEE AND READ the entire COMPLETED NFL investigation before passing judgement???

    Anyone???

  100. You know here is one thing not mentioned yet in all these posts and that is WHOS THE CIRCUS NOW CHEATERS NEW IT FOR YEARS I also wonder how many other little things they do that we dont see or hear about but im sure everh other team does it

  101. The NE Cheaters should be disqualified from playing in the Superbowl and the Ravens should play the Colts this coming Sunday to determine the AFC rep.

    Not happening, but, I hope Seattle kicks the crap out of the Cheaters.

  102. Goodell must really be uncomfortable. After all, Kraft is his good buddy. I imagine there are quite a number of other owners sitting back watching to see exactly how he handles this. Can we blame McDaniels? That would be great!

  103. Just makes you wonder if Brady has always done this and it’s just now coming out. I know the pats blasted the colts but cheating is cheating. All the wins in New England under belicheat are tarnished. I would question them ever to be in hall of fame. Them being Brady and belicheat.

  104. First, Jackson discovered the issue. Now, the story is the NFL knew about it in advance. First, it was 11 out of 12 balls. Now it’s all 12 balls. This is the sort of stuff that lawyers love, because they destroy the accusers through pointing out inconsistencies, and the story unravels. Goodell won’t end up in the witness box, but the story is starting to look shaky.

  105. BOOM! To me, the fact the weather had zero impact is the kiss of death for the Pats. This just got real yo. 12 perfectly inflated balls vs 12 under-inflated balls. 11 by 2lbs. I wonder if the Pat used heated air to inflate the balls so by the time the game started and the balls had cooled, they would be less inflated. this way, no messy ball boys to wrangle. The writing is on the wall. This was no accident. Great team, coach, and qb. This is just sad.

  106. Pats lead 17-7 at halftime using under inflated balls.
    Balls properly inflated at halftime.
    Pats outscore Indy 28-0 in second half…

    Hey, thanks for figuring out the problem, Mr Pagano!

  107. Is there anyone out there who would like to actually SEE AND READ the entire COMPLETED NFL investigation before passing judgement???
    ————————————————-

    If Goodell had admitted in the Rice investigation that, as Newsome said, Rice told him exactly what happened in that elevator …

    If Goodell were also investigating Aaron Rodgers admission that he overinflates balls …

    If Goodell had any history of treating teams and players equally …

    Then, yes, I might be interested in readling the completed investigation. As it is, I don’t trust the commissioner, and the commissioner is the league. The game has no integrity as long as he’s in charge. As a Steelers fan, I don’t like the Patriots. But all I see here is a team being publicly flayed for doing something half the league has admitted doing without ever suffering any consequences. I just keep wondering what Krafter and the Pats did to make Godfather Goodell come after them … because this whole thing reeks.

  108. Nothing will happen Does not matter if they did it or not, because:
    1 chain of custduty was broken
    2 pressure gauges were not certified
    3 some pressure could have been lost in checking
    4 balls were not marked as passed inspection
    5 somebody will take the fall for it

    can be questioned but not fully proved
    rules may be changed after this

  109. bcgreg says:
    Jan 21, 2015 10:38 PM
    Pats lead 17-7 at halftime using under inflated balls.
    Balls properly inflated at halftime.
    Pats outscore Indy 28-0 in second half…

    Hey, thanks for figuring out the problem, Mr Pagano!

    Yes indeed, it turns out Brady’s preferred inflation has been hurting his performance, probably for years.

  110. If this is so detrimental to the league’s integrity, why is the fine about the same as it is for roughing the passer?

  111. If it’s such a detriment to the integrity of the league, why is the fine about the same as roughing the passer?

  112. I don’t see why people can’t celebrate the Patriots winning like they do the Steelers who are celebrated for their use of steroids that clearly gave them an advantage in winning super bowls.

  113. Belichick knows what the rest of us know.
    NFL rules and NFL Officials are a total joke.

    Belichick’s moto should be, and probably is, catch me if you can.

    Sad thing is, it taints everything associated with the success he’s accomplished.

    Checking pressure before the games is a joke.
    Check them as they’re cycled in and out of play, during the game, if you’re that concerned with the integrity of ‘The Game’

  114. So this was a sting operation? That’s the way it sounds. If it was truly an issue stemming from something that happened in November, why wasn’t it investigated it sooner?

    Something wrong here, and it’s not with the footballs.

  115. The one thing everyone knows is that the NFL will not do anything before the superbowl. As bad as the taint of cheating will over this superbowl, the league will view that as better than the circus following punishing the team before the superbowl.

    The one person who I don’t see skating on this is Tom Brady. He is the one person who has no excuse for not knowing the balls he handled every play were under inflated. Actually, did anyone ask the center? He handles the ball every play also.

  116. So is everybody ignoring the fact that Rodgers flat out states the balls his ball balls over inflate get modified by the refs during the ball-check to be in the proper range?

    How is that the same with modifying the balls AFTER inspection?

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