Revis calls Brady “probably the best player to play the game”

AP

Patriots cornerback Darrelle Revis has faced plenty of good quarterbacks, but he thinks the one he faces in practice is the best.

And when Revis says that, he doesn’t just mean Tom Brady is the best quarterback in the NFL right now. According to Revis, Brady will likely be remembered as the single greatest player in the history of the game of football.

“It’s pretty awesome to go up against Brady all the time,” Revis said today. “This guy is probably going to go down as probably the best player to play the game, the best quarterback to play the game. It’s great to get that competition when we practice against him in practice.”

That’s a bold statement. Whether Brady or Peyton Manning is the greatest quarterback of their era is a frequent topic of conversation in the NFL world, but Revis is going beyond just calling Brady the best of his day. Revis is saying Brady will likely be remembered as a greater player than Jim Brown or Jerry Rice or Sammy Baugh or Lawrence Taylor or Johnny Unitas or Joe Montana.

Revis may be going a little far in proclaiming Brady that great. But if Brady were to add another Super Bowl MVP to his resume on Sunday, perhaps it will be time to consider whether Revis is right, and Brady is the best ever.

203 responses to “Revis calls Brady “probably the best player to play the game”

  1. “This guy is probably going to go down as probably the best player to play the game, the best quarterback to play the game.”

    I’m sure the second half of the quote clarifies what he meant.

  2. The best QB to ever play the game right now: Joe Montana.

    The best QB to ever play the game 15 years from now: Teddy Bridgewater.

    Acknowledge Greatness.

  3. that is some serious man-love going on there. and I’m quite ok with that…

    go pats. but if you can’t win, at least make it close…

  4. The best to ever play the game is just an opinion, and Revis has his. My opinion is Andrew Luck will end up being the best to ever play the game.

  5. And yet, the Patriots would have you believe that over Brady’s career, he never noticed that balls became flatter in colder weather.
    I think he would know if a ball were off a tenth of a percent. Twelve to fifteen percent drops …

  6. People hate him… Fact is, he has missed the playoffs ONCE in his career… Been to 9 AFC Championships, 6 Superbowls, and has 3 rings, possibly 4… hate all you want, he’s friggen unreal.

  7. Tom Brady is good, but….

    Teddy Bridgewater will be winning multiple Super Bowl Titles with the historic franchise known as the Minnesota Vikings.

    We created the game of football and what it is today.

    Teddy Bridgewater will establish himself as the best player to ever play the game of football, and put The Minnesota Vikings in their rightful place at the helm of NFL.

  8. Top QB’s in NFL History

    1) Joe Montana
    2) Peyton Manning
    3) Brett Favre
    4) John Elway
    5) Dan Marino
    6) Troy Aikman
    7) Steve Young
    8) Otto Graham
    9) Terry Bradshaw
    10) Aaron Rodgers
    *******************
    10,000)Tom Brady** = CHEATER
    10,001) JaMarcus Russel

  9. If he is the best ever while did he feel the need to have the Pats ball boy deflate balls? It seems to me that if you are the best ever you would not need to stoop to tactics outside the accepted part of the game to gain an advantage.

  10. thepftpoet says:
    Jan 28, 2015 3:08 PM
    The best QB to ever play the game right now: Joe Montana.

    The best QB to ever play the game 15 years from now: Teddy Bridgewater.

    Acknowledge Greatness.

    _________________________________________

    Ive actually started to thumbs up your comments. They are actually quite funny lol

  11. The fact that %45 of this website thinks that Brady is the best football player ever is all I need to know about this site and it’s fan base. Guess readers have never watched Unitas, Marino, Rice, Reed, Walter Payton, Lawrence Taylor or Montana. Why do people think that it has to be a QB to considered the GOAT?

  12. It appears there should be a debate about which “game” he is talking about. Are we talking about playing the Lying & Cheating games? Then, No & Yes. Terrible liar, so No to that question. But obviously he is pretty good at the cheating game. However, his mentor is Belicheat, the best Cheater I have witnessed in recent history. So, not sure I would give him all the credit for “Player of the Century” in that department either.

  13. So when will this story become mainstream about the ex-NY Jet employee now in the NFL front office who set up the Patriots by deflating balls and has an ax to grind against Bill Belichick? Sounds like a cover-up in the NFL front office. Lots of lawsuits coming from the Patriots.

  14. If we’re talking “gamesmanship” again, Bill Parcells is on record that Bill Walsh used to turn off the Niners headsets to force opposing teams to also turn off theirs. The Niners would then exploit this by running plays they’d scripted in advance, so they didn’t need coaching input.

    Montana*

    As for the Vikings, you guys got caught on tape this year illegally heating footballs on the sidelines. Maybe you should sit a few plays out.

  15. lovetbrady says:
    Jan 28, 2015 3:17 PM
    Best QB not best player. Please let’s remember the game consists of offense AND defense.

    _______________

    Someone should tell that to Rodger Goodell, I think he forgot there is defense in football.

  16. It’s appropriate for his name to be in the conversation, but I believe Barry Sanders is the best player to ever play the game. Since a significant portion of the population doesn’t even rank him as the greatest RB of all-time, I consider him to technically count as a slightly underrated and under-appreciated player. It would be stronger to consider Brady as the most valuable player due to his drafted acquisition cost.

  17. metitometin says:Jan 28, 2015 3:19 PM

    So when will this story become mainstream about the ex-NY Jet employee now in the NFL front office who set up the Patriots by deflating balls and has an ax to grind against Bill Belichick? Sounds like a cover-up in the NFL front office. Lots of lawsuits coming from the Patriots.
    _________________________________
    Must be fun to watch TV from outer space. Must be only mainstream on Mars. Embrace *****

  18. Come on, you can hardly say he’s the best when every stinking rule is made for QBs to put up huge fantasy numbers.

  19. no one player could dominate a game like Lawrence Taylor…

    Thank god he doesn’t play in this day and age..he’s get flagged for even smiling near the golden boy

  20. weepingjebus says:
    Jan 28, 2015 3:20 PM
    If we’re talking “gamesmanship” again, Bill Parcells is on record that Bill Walsh used to turn off the Niners headsets to force opposing teams to also turn off theirs. The Niners would then exploit this by running plays they’d scripted in advance, so they didn’t need coaching input.

    Montana*

    As for the Vikings, you guys got caught on tape this year illegally heating footballs on the sidelines. Maybe you should sit a few plays out.

    __________________________

    Yeah Jimmy Johnson says the Cowboys taped signals like the pats did but no one else on the team remembers that besides him.

  21. Voted not sure because….I’m not sure.
    He’s definitely on the short list though. For me the top 10 or more are basically interchangeable. They all have strengths and weaknesses but at that level the margins have narrowed so much that it’s inconsequential. They’re all winners at the top.

  22. Joe Montana vs Tom Brady is a legitimate question that we all can dicuss heartily one side or the other. Aaron Rodgers vs Tom Brady over who is the best QB right now is also a legitimate question. Maybe in a few years we can also argue which is the best of all time.

    Hoever there is one question that can NEVER be argued……ever and that is who is the better QB, Tom Brady or Peyeton Manning. Manning can’t even be put in the top 5 IF you want to include the Playoffs. And why wouldn’t you include the most pressure packed time vs the best competition.

    Name a QB you’d want to start a playoff game before you come to Peyton Manning, and he’d be lucky to get in the top 10 let alone be in the same league as as the guy who has the MOST of those very hard wins……ever. Hoiw can be be compared with a guy who is 2 games below .500, and has NINE, I repeat NINE, one and dones.

  23. Like long Patriots fan and huge fan of Brady but I don’t think he is the best QB ever, never mind player.

    Don’t get me wrong he is in the discussion but on pure talent I still have a hard time taking anyone over Montana and Marino. And a significant factor people usually overlook when comparing the greats is the current state of the league when considering Brady’s accomplishments. It’s not my intentions to minimize his accomplishments but Montana and Marino played in an era that still allowed defense; tough physical, try and kill the QB, defense. Just go back and watch the 1990 playoff game between the Giants and 49ers if you need proof. The Giants literally tried to end Montana’s career in that game, their whole defensive game plan would be illegal by today’s standards.

    But I regress…… Best NFL player of all time? In my opinion it was Lawrence Taylor. Never before and never since have I seen one player have a bigger effect on the game of football. His on the field abilities were simply unbelievable. LT was one bad-mother!

  24. If you think Brady is the best ever, you must also think Dick ChainHe is a great American.

    You may also think up is down and square is round. QUESTION:If the Pats lose this year, does it mean Russell Wilson goes straight to the top?

    Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, Lawrence Taylor and Joe Montana, etc. said … what?

  25. Best player ever is Jerry Rice, hands down.

    Brady is #2 QB behind Montana. If Brady wins on Sunday then he leapfrogs Montana for #1 QB

  26. Having a “best ever player” is stupid. The skill sets and comparisons across positions are so hard to do, it’s a fruitless exercise.

    Having a best ever in one position doesn’t really make sense either…especially QB when it is so much easier to throw for a bazillion yards these days (e.g., Matthew Stafford).

    Is Tom Brady in the QB GOAT list? Of course he is…that’s not even a debate. Personally I think Dan Marino was the best QB I’ve ever seen, but the “hurr, durr Super Bowls rings crowd”…aka, Peter King, Tommee from Quincee and other slappies will of course disagree.

  27. Tom Brady is so good, he was able to drive his team to score 17 points in the first half of the AFC Championship game in spite of being forced to play with improperly inflated footballs.

    Once the NFL officials helpfully spotted and corrected the inflation issues, and Tom Brady was able to play with regulation footballs, he showed his true potential and put up 28 points in the second half.

  28. he could not even carry John Unitas ‘s shoes to the field.used to think highly of him but to many things things going on around him to make him that good.

  29. One other point … an important one for the league and it’s overall arrogance: Brady was picked in the sixth round. I won’t buy into Revis’ hyperbole, but, no doubt he is a great player.

    If you are “in the business” you have to ask yourself what it means for a player as good as him to be passed over by 32 teams five (plus) times. If you are a professional, scout, coach, GM, player personnel guy, etc. this is a major opportunity to grow.

  30. To be the best FOOTBALL player ever, you have to at least be athletic. Has Revis seen Brady run? Sure, Tommy can stand in a pocket and throw under-inflated footballs against defenses whose signals and formations he spent the entire previous Friday familiarizing himself with. But that just makes him a decent QB. Certainly not the greatest QB ever. And definitely not the greatest PLAYER ever.

  31. If Super Bowl rings are going to dictate your decision, then yeah. I’m preferable to Jim Brown and Peyton having that title with me leaning towards Peyton. Brown seemed just athletically/genetically superior playing against inferior/smaller competition. It just shows you how big the disparity between football and other sports are in terms of “ultimate team sport”. One player is never the reason a team wins.

  32. Right now…no way.

    Brady absolutely needs to win that elusive 4th ring on Sunday… and then we can have this conversation.

    If he doesn’t, then the conversation is over. 3 SB losses won’t cut it.

  33. Unitas was one of the first good QBs out there but the guy never even completely 60 percent of his passes in any given year. I know the game was different back then, but he was a worse version of Brett Favre. He loved to just chuck it up there. Anyone who claims he is the best ever is high…. Not saying a Brady is, but he belongs up there for sure.

    If he wins another one on Sunday, it’s gonna be tough to argue with his resume and revolving door of players his whole career.

  34. rtookey says:
    Jan 28, 2015 3:11 PM
    People hate him… Fact is, he has missed the playoffs ONCE in his career… Been to 9 AFC Championships, 6 Superbowls, and has 3 rings, possibly 4… hate all you want, he’s friggen unreal.

    He plays in the AFC East…he better make the playoffs all the time. Every team in that division hasn’t offered any competitiveness in decades….

  35. They went 16-0 the year before. That’s a whole five games worse without Brady. Same as going from an 11-5 team to a 6-10 team.

  36. NFL’s Lack of Integrity says:
    Jan 28, 2015 3:23 PM
    lovetbrady says:
    Jan 28, 2015 3:17 PM
    Best QB not best player. Please let’s remember the game consists of offense AND defense.

    _______________

    Someone should tell that to Rodger Goodell, I think he forgot there is defense in football.

    ————————–

    Also special teams. The whole “hurr durr let’s kick off from the 35” think is idiotic

  37. And in 2008 when Brady was injured in the first game, the Patriots STILL went 11-5.
    ———-
    You forgot the part where they missed the playoffs. With the same team that went 16-0 the year before.

    #factsarefacts

  38. SLOW DOWN PEOPLE…..the NFL existed prior to 2000.

    How many titles did Otto Graham win? Including his FIRST YEAR in the NFL. Yes….the Browns won the NFL title their first year in the league.

  39. “And in 2008 when Brady was injured in the first game, the Patriots STILL went 11-5.

    Brady, therefore, can be labeled a system Quarterback.”

    The validity of that 11-5 2008 Patriots team has been exaggerated throughout the years and if you take the time to go back and look at the schedule they beat a lot of bad teams that season.

    But it’s still not a horrible point as Brady has undoubtably benefited from playing with some great teams and for a great coach.

    My question for you though would be how is that different than what Montana has in San Fransico? Those teams were stacked and they had a hall of fame coach. Calling Brady a “system QB” is silly but at the same time you have to consider the quality of the teams he has played on. But in the end if you are going to use that against Brady then wouldn’t you also have to do the same with Montana?

  40. who ever said bridgewater is a fool, get real…….brady check all those down votes, to all against brady point made,

  41. If he can win sunday, Tom’s in the convo as GOAT, but really, he’s been on a slow slide the past few years.

    Brady got shut out in the second half of their playoff loss to the Ravens in 2012. And even Joe Flacco had a better game than him in this year’s playoff game.

    He’s still serviceable, but far from the best in the game, RIGHT NOW.

  42. He doesn’t have the most World Championships.
    He doesn’t hold a bunch of passing records.
    So I’m having a hard time seeing the argument in his favor.
    He’s good, successful, rich, and has a wife prettier than he is, which is terrific.
    But like I said, I can’t see more than that.

  43. Best player to ever play the game = Jerry Rice

    Best QB to ever play the game = Joe Montana

    If Brady wins this superbowl, then he will be tied with joe for SB wins, but Joe won 4 and NEVER LOST in a Super Bowl. Brady will never be able to claim that.

  44. tokyofilthblaster says:
    Jan 28, 2015 3:44 PM
    This dude married a woman that makes way more money than he does.

    Therefore, he’s the best ever.
    —————————————————————–

    He not only married a rich woman, he married a HOTTIE!!!!

  45. The AFC East has had a representative in the AFC Championship game for 8 of the last 9 seasons.

    Yep, worst division ever.

    #hmmm
    #funnyhowthathappens

  46. There is debate about best QB, Tom Brady is in the discussion. WR , there is no discussion. One guy leads in yards and catches. No discussion. Wh p is better at their position ? Who would therefore be the best Football player ?

  47. It pains me to say this as a Vikings fan but Aaron Rodgers is the best I’ve ever seen. He’s better than Favre, Elway, Montana, Brady, and Manning. The only guy who’s close in my mind is Marino and he never won anything.

    Bummer.

  48. HAS THIS GUY EVER PLAYED AGAINST PHILLIP RIVERS??? GEEZ GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR BUTT REVIS!!

  49. If you ask Seattle fans, they will say Wilson is the best QB in the league which signifies the moronic fanbase they have. But of course his record is so much better then everyone else in the past three years. And he never had a great running game or defense that is the reason he has that record. But of course his record vs. Super Bowl winning QB’s makes him the best and nothing else you say will change that. That is why Seattle fans are a complete joke

  50. My team owned both Montana and Brady in the playoffs. We also stake claim of having the greatest defensive player to ever don a helmet. So, since Giants’ fans like me are the only ones qualified to give an opinion on this subject, it goes like this:

    3) Joe Montana – we beat him 2x in the playoffs even though he had an unreal supporting cast

    2) Tom Brady – we beat him 2x in the SB otherwise he’d be gunning for his SIXTH SB (WOW!)

    1) LT – ate Montana’s lunch and would put Tom over his knee if he played in this era.

  51. Brady barely cracks the top 20. He’s a terrible QB. It’s his protection that should be getting props. I could make the plays he makes with that kind of time.

  52. Best player to ever play the game = Jerry Rice

    Best QB to ever play the game = Joe Montana

    If Brady wins this superbowl, then he will be tied with joe for SB wins, but Joe won 4 and NEVER LOST in a Super Bowl. Brady will never be able to claim that.

    By this logic it’s “better” to lose before you get to the superbowl, which Joe did in every other season he played.

  53. I wear uggs everyday if that gives you any indication of who I root for. But Brady has to win Sunday to be considered the best ever. I dont think hes in that conversation yet.

    But Peyton Manning? PLEASE!! 9 one and dones and only one ring to show for it! I like him a lot. Manning is unreal but hes got to win at least one more to enter into that talk too. And you cant get embarrassed 43-8.

  54. And all the other greats now feel deflated by Revis’ comments.
    For me, there is doubt in the air.

  55. Brady is many things, but he’s no cheater. Like every other great QB, he has done everything he could WITHIN the rules to WIN, and he’s done it spectacularly. So spectacularly that many would seek to tarnish his legacy–with speculative defamation of his character with no risk of accountability for their conviction without a trial of any kind. Most of all, he’s a winner. And all the losers who trash him would love to have him on their team, no matter what they say. Greatest QB of all time? I still like Joe Montana more, but Tom’s right there.

  56. Tom Brady wasn’t particularly good at college as a QB, hence the 6th round selection. Spygate really helped him out!

    Because all intelligent football fans know that only great college players are good in the NFL.

    #Tebowsayshello

  57. sindiegosage says:
    Jan 28, 2015 3:30 PM
    And in 2008 when Brady was injured in the first game, the Patriots STILL went 11-5.

    Brady, therefore, can be labeled a system Quarterback.

    Do I really have to explain why this is a stupid comment?

  58. brazzz01 says:
    Jan 28, 2015 3:45 PM
    So, Eli Manning is the best to infinity?


    interception is not spelled i-n-f-i-n-i-t-y

    ==============

    But how do you spell “two Super Bowl losses to the Giants”? Besides E-l-i. Maybe C-o-u-g-h-l-i-n? Or w-e-a-k a-r-m? Ray Lewis never lost a Super Bowl to the Giants.

  59. The best QB to ever play the game 15 years from now: Teddy Bridgewater.

    not really, i just wanted to post something that won’t get deleted, the teddy bridgewater gems seem to survive.

    i would like to know what rules i am breaking mr. PFT so i can have post survive.

    currently i must be doing something wrong?

  60. Greatest football player of all time? Forget about it.

    Certainly a great quarterback, but I’d take Johnny Unitas, John Elway, and Joe Montana over Brady any day.

  61. RE: The AFC East has had a representative in the AFC Championship game for 8 of the last 9 seasons.

    Yep, worst division ever.
    ——————————————
    #hmmm
    #funnyhowthathappens

    Last team to win 2 years in a row was the 90-91 Bills. Pats have won it 5 straight TWICE since then. 13 times total

    Real tough competition huh

  62. thepftpoet says:
    Jan 28, 2015 3:08 PM
    The best QB to ever play the game 15 years from now: Teddy Bridgewater.
    _____________

    He might be, play 3 or 4 seasons in Minny. Then leave for a Franchise that can actually develop talent at the QB position.

  63. The best ever is a reach. But I would put him top 10 qb’s ever and maybe even top 30 players ever. As a hawks fan, I saw first hand the difference Brady made to a Deion Branch compared the WR he was once he left Brady. And that is only 1 example. Not a Brady fan, but I can admit when I watch him play, I know I’m watching one of the greats. Hope our D is up to the task come Sunday. Go Hawks!

  64. Please. The guy is a statue back there. Throwing short slant routes 75 percent of the time. Plus, he needs to deflate his footballs so he can throw it hard. Also, he is a terrible dancer.

  65. Last team to win 2 years in a row was the 90-91 Bills. Pats have won it 5 straight TWICE since then. 13 times total

    If the division was really that horrible… or if it mattered how good or bad it was…the AFC East rep should not be representing the AFC in the SB for 3 of the last 8 seasons…and the AFC East rep should not be in the AFC Championship game for 8 of the last 9 years…. I bet if I looked up the AFC East’s record outside of the division it is quite favorable as well

  66. Hey trolls – we in Pats Nation feed off your infantile jealousy. I will bet none of you can accurately relate the real facts of Spygate, because once you do, you will realize how hopeless you have been. Sorry kiddos but the Pats have been this good, this long because they ARE that good. Embrace their greatness.

  67. * – Part of an organization that cheated throughout Tom Brady’s career, including by Brady himself.

  68. The validity of that 11-5 2008 Patriots team has been exaggerated throughout the years and if you take the time to go back and look at the schedule they beat a lot of bad teams that season.

    But it’s still not a horrible point as Brady has undoubtably benefited from playing with some great teams and for a great coach.

    ————

    The 2008 Patriots went 1-4 against AFC playoff teams.
    3 of those 4 losses were blowouts
    2 of those 3 blowout losses were at home

    Sure takes a lot of the shine off that Brady-less 11-5 record doesn’t it.

    #yesitdoes
    #factsarefacts
    #truth

  69. Fitting a football in between three defenders with a millimeter wide area for error on a 30 yard pass perfectly on time with the game on the line, consistently, every year for over a 13 years….

    Clearly never could have been accomplished without an imperceptible amount of air missing from the football, or whatever we blamed it on before we knew about this a week ago… CHEATER!!!

  70. Jan 28, 2015 3:16 PM
    thepftpoet says:
    Jan 28, 2015 3:08 PM
    The best QB to ever play the game right now: Joe Montana.

    The best QB to ever play the game 15 years from now: Teddy Bridgewater.

    Acknowledge Greatness

    PFT….SWEETHEART…Can you tell all of us exactly what it is that you TAKE each and every day???? Whatever it is..it works, and I want some too.

  71. purplekoolaid1 says:
    Jan 28, 2015 3:26 PM
    Can people stop putting “cheater” in your comments? Jeez, is it old. The guy can play….period.
    ___________

    The only thing older than that is how it seems every time the Patriots get to, or win a the big game. There are always questions marks, how they tarnished the integrity of the game.

    That is the Legacy they have brought upon themselves, if you want to be upset at anyone, look no further than the Patriots, and the way the operate.

    Who brings bags of footballs to the bathroom with them? Who holds team meetings to talk about what PSI they prefer footballs at?

  72. I avoid “best ever” conversations, too subjective.

    You won’t find too many players in history better than Brady though.

  73. I grew up watching Bradshaw, Montana, Marino, Favre, Manning, Aikman, Brady, and now Rodgers. Bradshaw was the most overrated considering he played on teams who are all practically in the HOF. Montana was best I ever saw cool as ice under pressure. When you consider who the surrounding cast are, you really have to tip your cap to Brady. He’s only had one great receiver in Randy Moss, who was only there for a very brief amount of time. Aaron Rodgers is certainly the most efficient QB but needs some more rings to be truly considered one of the best ever.

    As for best player ever, that’s very tough considering they have very different roles: A QB? Jerry Rice? Barry Sanders? An Offensive lineman? Lawrence Taylor? Hmmm.

  74. NFL’s Lack of Integrity says:
    Jan 28, 2015 3:12 PM
    Top QB’s in NFL History

    1) Joe Montana
    2) Tom Brady
    3) Johnny Unitas
    4) OttoGraham

    There I cleaned up a list that wasn’t accurate before

  75. beefsbrother says:Jan 28, 2015 4:34 PM

    Hey trolls – we in Pats Nation feed off your infantile jealousy. I will bet none of you can accurately relate the real facts of Spygate, because once you do, you will realize how hopeless you have been. Sorry kiddos but the Pats have been this good, this long because they ARE that good. Embrace their greatness

    Infantile jealousy? Ha. I care about things that matter in life, not professional sports. Nice try though.

  76. You people are reading way too much into this. He’s only saying this to avoid bulletin board fodder. Same with Belichick’s comments earlier about Pete Carrol. Besides “the greatest ever” tag gets thrown around too much as well. Every generation thinks theirs has the greatest ever.

  77. If the division was really that horrible… or if it mattered how good or bad it was…the AFC East rep should not be representing the AFC in the SB for 3 of the last 8 seasons…and the AFC East rep should not be in the AFC Championship game for 8 of the last 9 years…. I bet if I looked up the AFC East’s record outside of the division it is quite favorable as well

    If you have an automatic 6 wins every season, There is a greater chance to have 1st seed. Which lets you play at home after a break.

    if your fighting just to win division or a wild card every year, The AFC Championship is a lot harder to get to let alone win.

  78. 9 AFC Championships, 6 Superbowls, and has 3 rings.

    If he gets his 4th ring he goes down as the greatest to ever play.

    The super bowl era is the era which should only be judged.

    16 game schedules the most teams, salary cap and no trade restrictions.

    Brady is clearly the second best player right now. 1 more super bowl and the conversation is over for ever

  79. Joe Montana being 4-0 instead of 4-2 just means Montana had two more seasons of not even MAKING IT to the SB.

  80. Brady is not even in the top 20 if you are talking about “all time”…… And when he’s proven to have cheated with illegal footballs over the last several years, the only discussion Brady will fit in, largest cheater of all time…… And then of course largest liar of all time!

  81. If you have an automatic 6 wins every season, There is a greater chance to have 1st seed. Which lets you play at home after a break.

    Except they don’t go 6-0 in their division every year they went 4-2 this year and 4-2 last year and 8-2 the last 2 years outside the division.

    It’s really a lame excuse and an incorrect one at that.

    The worst division in the AFC based on win lose records and playoff appearances by teams NOT named the Patriots or Colts is the AFC South. But for some reason you never hear anyone say “the colts are only good because of there division.

    To take it a step further most people may say the toughest div in the AFC is the AFC north. Well since 2001 NE is 27-6 vs that division with most of those win coming vs the Steelers and Ravens.

  82. As another matter of fact, Brady’s not even the best QB playing this week….. His opponent has never lost a Super Bowl and Cheating Brady can’t even say that!!

  83. It’s simply impossible to say who is the “best of all time”. Johnny Unitas was incredible, but not many people even remember him these days. Certainly fair to say Brady is one of the all-time greats though.

  84. It’s really a lame excuse and an incorrect one at that.

    The worst division in the AFC based on win lose records and playoff appearances by teams NOT named the Patriots or Colts is the AFC South. But for some reason you never hear anyone say “the colts are only good because of there division.

    To take it a step further most people may say the toughest div in the AFC is the AFC north. Well since 2001 NE is 27-6 vs that division with most of those win coming vs the Steelers and Ravens.

    Its not an excuse, It is simple odds. Easier chance to make it, easier chance to win it.

  85. @metitometin says: Jan 28, 2015 3:19 PM

    So when will this story become mainstream about the ex-NY Jet employee now in the NFL front office who set up the Patriots by deflating balls and has an ax to grind against Bill Belichick? Sounds like a cover-up in the NFL front office. Lots of lawsuits coming from the Patriots.
    __________________________________

    I suppose when the Mainstream media start to accept sources whose sole objective is to corrupt & distort the truth.

  86. No he’s not, period, and I’m a NE fan and have been for over 30 years. He may not even be the best QB ever, with Marino, Elway, and Unitas’ legacies likely having a lot to say about that. Best we can say right now, is that he is the best QB of his era, with Manning so often unable to step up to the plate on the big stage of the playoffs.

  87. The idea that someone would even consider putting Brady up in a question as to whether he was the best is absolutely absurd to the nth degree. He is not in the top 10. Not even close. End of story.

  88. I’m very surprised 50% of the people in the poll said that Tom Brady was the best player to ever play the game. That just tells me that there are a lot of Patriots fans that voted on this.

    Win or lose on Sunday he’ll go down as one of the best quarterbacks ever. But how can you compare QB’s to wide receivers to defensive backs etc..?

    Of course quarterbacks get all of the glory and that’s how it will always be.

  89. Can someone explain how going to 4 Sbs and winning 4 of them is more impressive than going to 6 Sbs and winning 4 of them? When did losing in the playoffs become more impressive than losing the Super Bowl?

  90. Impossible to compare eras. Salary cap, rules changes, free agency, concussion awareness, these things have all changed the game.

    Suffice it to say he’s one of the best ever.

    There is no “best ever” because of the reasons I listed.

  91. patswinyoucry says:
    Jan 28, 2015 3:07 PM
    Best ever and you all can’t stand it.

    No….. It’s the cheating we can’t stand.

  92. Brady isn’t even the best QUARTERBACK ever. That was Joe Montana.

    Jerry Rice is the best football player ever, and it isn’t even close. The gap between him and every other receiver to play the game is the size of the Grand Canyon. No player at any other position separated himself from his peers to 1/10th the degree Rice did.

  93. I just don’t know what to make of these extravagant comments about a “legacy of cheating.” As far as I know, the Patriots were found videotaping defensive signals from the wrong area of the field during the game with the Jets in 2007. I read the rule, and I read the memo, and there was some ambiguity in the wording. But Belichick took a bullet for the team.

    They did not tape the Rams walk-through. The tuck rule was not cheating. The different formations during this year are not cheating. The equipment guys were required to take a lie detector test after the balls were found to be “deflated.” And they passed the test.

    So what is the legacy of cheating? I have read people who say that Tom Brady is a world class liar. WTF?

  94. He’s not even the best QB ever.

    Joe Montana is by far the best QB ever. He WAS the team, not a product of the team.

    Best NFL player ever? Not even close…..

    Walter Payton, Dick Butkus, Bronco Nagurski, Lawrence Taylor, Barry Sanders, Otto Graham, Gale Sayers, Johnny Unitas…just naming a few.

    I’m a Bills fan so toss in Jim Kelly, Thurman Thomas…

    Best NFL player ever? Can’t believe it’s even being asked.

  95. Heeeellll nooooo…one of the great QBs, sure…best players ever are reserved for guys that have had freaky talent with freaky numbers. Wins and or losses etc erc is another category.

    Tom was never a freaky athelete…just a dude saddled with a good coach and crap division who made great screen passes and mid field throws with accuracy (save for the lone Moss year).

    Best players ever to me are Jim Brown. Unitas. Jerry Rice. Lawrence Taylor. Reggie White. Barry Sanders. Randy Moss. And Peyton Manning. These guys changed the game and the positions they played forever…Tom just won a lot for reasons already mentioned.

  96. HUNDREDS of former Patriots players coaches and employees

    NOT ONE has come forward to say they witnessed or were part of a cheating scheme

    NOT ONE

    that’s your preponderance of the evidence

    The Jets coaches admit they try to trip players. No one minds. Why? They suck.

  97. billsfan66 says:
    Jan 28, 2015 6:38 PM
    He’s not even the best QB ever.

    Joe Montana is by far the best QB ever. He WAS the team, not a product of the team.


    Are you kidding me! He was the team?!

    Every year that they won the SB his D was ranked #4 or better
    Not to mention all the HOF players he played with.

  98. Tom was never a freaky athelete…just a dude saddled with a good coach and crap division who made great screen passes and mid field throws with accuracy (save for the lone Moss year).
    ———————————————
    Save for the ONE season out of his entire 14 year career that he had an elite WR.

    Brady IMO is the best ever, even if it pains me to say as I’m a 49ers fan growing up watching Joe Montana.

  99. Greatest QB Ever: Montana.
    Greatest Player Ever: Rice

    Brady will go down as a top five QB.

  100. I’ve always been a big Montana guy, but if you only care about Super Bowls when judging a QB (not my thing, but, hey whatever blows your hair back!), then it’s tough to convince me that Montana’s 4-0 record is more impressive… what did he do the other 12 seasons of his career? Lost at some point before the Super Bowl.

    Montana was one of the best ever, but people talk about him 25 years later like he never lost a game in his life.

    And I won’t even bring up Parcells’ Bill Walsh allegations. If that happened today, there’d be a CIA investigation and a Grand Jury hearing and all the trolls would pull their hair out yelling about asterisks until the end of time.

  101. sportnorcal says:
    Jan 28, 2015 7:35 PM

    Greatest QB Ever: Montana.
    Greatest Player Ever: Rice

    Brady will go down as a top five QB.

    =========================================

    sportnorcal…..Rice, best player ever ?!?!

    Check out a guy named Walter Payton !

  102. I’m not here to debate who the best is as that’s will always be debatable, but here are some points countering some of the arguments people are trying to make.

    The 11-5 team with out brady was 5 losses worse then a fairly identical 16-0 season with an easier schedule. Not sure what sport you ar watching but 5 losses is a huge difference in a 16 game season

    Brady had worse receivers then almost every great qb other then his one season with moss, he was injured the next season and the season after moss sucked and that was the downturn of his career

    Montana is 4-0 and brady is 3-2 with a chance at another. So let me get this straight Brady takes his team further and more often then Montana and he is worse? Montana played most of his career with the greatest wide receiver in the history of the game and that’s much less debatable and Brady played with guys like branch, reche Caldwell, Brandon lafell and one year with moss.

    Look at evey great qb and you will see a team with a great wide receiver, other then one year with moss Brady doesn’t have a single receiver who will even get a single hall of fame vote for nomination.

    The bottom line is no matter what you think it seems that it’s clsoer the you want to think as its bend decades since there was even a player to have this conversation about.

  103. To the guys above who thinks Brady isn’t even the best of his generation I can only assume u are referring to manning

    No matter what they say publicly I aks you this would manning trade his career for Brady’s? I say he would he would trade all his stats for a handful of rings.

    No aks your self would Brady trade?

    And if you honestly answers those 2 questions I belive you will get an answer pretty accurate to which one is better

  104. It must be noted, Montana’s great playoff stats come from wins against the inferior AFC in the Superbowl. Look the numbers up.

  105. What’s with all the fools who keep insisting that “best QB ever” does not equal “best NFL player ever”? Do you not realize that a franchise QB is the second-most valuable asset in teams sports (to a superstar NBA player)? Heck, Andrew Luck is playing for an, at best, below average team outside of himself, and he single-handedly has made it a playoff team annually.

    LT dominated some seasons and yet the Giants often weren’t great those same years. JJ Watt has probably been the most dominant defender since then but he still hasn’t been able to drag the team to success these past two years (he’s done darn well, of course). Great pass-rushers are awesome, but an elite QB is just as valuable, and a HOF QB is more so.

    As for Montana vs Brady, I won’t pass judgement there (take your pick), but for those who bring up Montana’s superior SB record, you need to go back to school:
    Montana was 117-47 as a starter over his career. What a beast.
    Brady has 47 losses too!
    …he also has 43(!!!) more wins.

    Montana also was 16-7 in the playoffs. Brady is 20-8.
    It’s called “sample size”, people.

  106. The Best Player of All Time would not have lost two championship games to Eli ‘freaking’ Manning when his teams were better than the Giants.

    Give me a break

  107. rjpats says:
    Jan 28, 2015 3:49 PM

    Why stop there? I’ll say he’s the greatest person in human history.

    _____________________________-

    I literally just laughed out loud over this one!! PRICELESS!!

  108. You’d swear the Pats have hoisted a Lombardi within’ the last DECADE or so by the way their fan base is on here jaw jackin’!!!

    Face It.
    You cheated and got caught with Spygate.

    Face It.
    You cheated and got BUSTED again with Deflate-Gate.

    That aside, TB12 is a PHENOMENAL QB!!!!!
    But certainly NOT the G.O.A.T!!!

    And yes, it does mean more that Joe Montana Rose to the occasion EVERY SINGLE TIME he was in the Super Bowl and was UNDEFEATED on the Grandest of Grand stages! Why else would you Pats fans boast of 3-5 when the Brady Vs. Manning comparisons are made? Can’t have it both ways……..

  109. Aaron Rogers may have something to say about that really soon. With another 2 super bowls under his belt, which I believe to be attainable in sequence in the next 2 years, He’ll be the new best ever to lace ’em up.

  110. flash1283 says:
    Jan 28, 2015 5:37 PM

    The worst division in the AFC based on win lose records and playoff appearances by teams NOT named the Patriots or Colts is the AFC South. But for some reason you never hear anyone say “the colts are only good because of there division.
    ******************************************************************************************************************

    Actually I INSIST that all of the time whenever I engage in a debate about how overrated IMO Andrew Luck is! Folks like to brag about Luck winning 3 straight AFC South Conference Titles as if its some type of impressive accomplishment!Lol Whoooa he had to outduel the likes of Zack Mettenberger, Blake Bortles, and Mr. Harvard himself Ryan Fitzpatrick 2X a year!!!!

    Please don’t laugh Pats fans you had to “match wits” with the likes of none other than Geno Smith, EJ Manuel, and Ryan Tannehill!!! Lol Now the only thing I can say is, all 3 of those teams have nice young up and coming defenses which is refreshing.

  111. Brady has what most guys don’t have. Montana had it too. PManning doesn’t. Boston fans will remember EAndelman referring to it as “it”.

  112. 1) Joe Montana
    2) Peyton Manning
    3) Brett Favre
    4) John Elway
    5) Dan Marino
    6) Troy Aikman
    7) Steve Young
    8) Otto Graham
    9) Terry Bradshaw
    10) Aaron Rodgers
    *******************
    10,000)Tom Brady** = CHEATER
    10,001) JaMarcus Russel

    ————————

    Good god even putting aside your Brady snark your top ten are horrible. You know nothing about football.

  113. kindbass says:
    Jan 28, 2015 5:23 PM
    Joe Montana being 4-0 instead of 4-2 just means Montana had two more seasons of not even MAKING IT to the SB.
    _________________________

    Yet in his five super bowls, brady only once put up more than 24 points. montana put up more than 24 in 3/4 appearances. brady’s offense averaged 21.4 points while montana’s averaged 34.75 per super bowl.

  114. Revis said today. “This guy is probably going to go down as probably the best player to play the game”*

    * For one who had footballs deflated to his preference.

  115. Let’s not forget about Bart Starr who has won more playoff and championship games than Brady.
    Winning, from probably cheating, just 3 SBs is pathetic compared to Starr.
    GOAT was Starr. That is fact and not opinion.

  116. And in 2008 when Brady was injured in the first game, the Patriots STILL went 11-5.

    Brady, therefore, can be labeled a system Quarterback.
    ———————————————————–
    Baloney…and all qB’s play in a system.
    If Brady played in 08 with that offense…they were looking at another undefeated season. Cassel was handed Moss and Welker with another year in the system, a good backfield, and crazy good O line.

    I can’t believe they lost 5 games that year.

  117. grabgrabgrab says:
    Jan 28, 2015 9:14 PM
    Aaron Rogers may have something to say about that really soon. With another 2 super bowls under his belt, which I believe to be attainable in sequence in the next 2 years, He’ll be the new best ever to lace ‘em up.
    —————————————————————–
    I wish I could agree with you but I can’t after watching the Packers show their true, soft colors in that ‘Hawks playoff game. As long as they have McJoke as their coach who just plays to not lose instead of playing to win, the only bowl game Aaron is going to is the Joke Bowl.

  118. Montana was a great QB. The 2nd GOAT. Big diff was he played pre salary cap(1994). Teams could keep their players. Because of Walsh’s drafting acumen, Montana played on All Star teams. He wasn’t throwing to DPatten, JWiggins, DGivens, etc. He wasn’t handing off to ASmith, BGEllis. LMarony, etc. People forget, SF had a top 5 D every yr too. I’m convinced Montana doesn’t do what he did with Brady’s cast. You know what Brady would do with Rice, Taylor and RCraig?. In 2007, when Brady had all the weapons, he broke every record in the book. Going undefeated and taking everyone’s best shot every game took it’s toll in 2007, IMO. As well as a Giants team that hit with a great game plan and performance on that day.

  119. “tedmurph says: Jan 28, 2015 9:36 PM

    Brady has what most guys don’t have. Montana had it too. PManning doesn’t. Boston fans will remember EAndelman referring to it as “it”.”

    If by “it” you mean a H.O.F. coach and a team stocked with Hall of Famers then you are quite correct. If any of you mouth breathers think that Marino or Elway or Manning or Rodgers couldn’t do as well with Walsh or Belichick then you have clearly can’t separate the QB from the supporting cast. I know counting superbowls is way easier then thinking, but give it a try anyway just for the hell of it.

  120. So the one who said this is also on the same team?
    Whoa. Stop the presses.
    What. A. Shocker.

  121. Montana had a team stocked with HOFers in the pre salary cap era. Pats were stocked with HOFers during the Belichick era? Name them. And don’t give me RMoss or Seau. They made their bones elsewhere. Manning had much better skill players to work with and played in a dome. Marino won nothing. Elway didn’t win anything until TDavis showed up. Rodgers hasn’t won enough either. Someday maybe, but 6-5 in the playoffs, many times with homefield one and outs I may be forgetting someone, but Seymour and Harrison are borderline(I think no). Gronk if he stays healthy(big if). Really, name one.

  122. Peyton?! You mean the guy that has consistently leaked down his leg in a big playoff game?? Please. Great regular season quarterback, lighting up mediocre and awful teams…pukes on his shoes come playoff time. Let’s stop already.

  123. Tuck rule game was in Foxboro. The snow may have given you a hint. Brady has won 6 road playoff games. Exactly. You don’t have to play too many on the road when you win 12+ every year. Otherwise, great point.. Ravens don’t have to play anymore road games this year.

  124. I’d have to take any qb over him who wouldn’t lie in front of the media over deflating footballs. Bradys credibility has been ruined forever. Whatever it cheats to win.

  125. Brady is rock solid in the clutch
    He usually will not throw to a receiver when under duress
    Knows his limits and will defer to his defense rather than make a risky throw on third down
    This often makes him superior to the great athletes who get distracted by their own physical prowess and take chances
    No Brady is not the best overall
    It he might be the best or very close to it when it counts
    He has to be beat, rarely beats himself

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