Lions have proposed expanding replay to cover penalty calls

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The Lions lost to the Cowboys in the Wild Card round of the playoffs in a game that featured officials picking up a flag for pass interference on Cowboys linebacker Anthony Hitchens in the fourth quarter.

That decision helped keep the door open for Dallas to win the game and NFL vice president of officiating Dean Blandino said in the days after the game that there should have been a defensive holding call on the play at the very least. The Lions would like to see all teams have a chance to challenge such rulings in the future.

At a press conference in Arizona Thursday, Blandino said that the Lions have made a proposal to expand replay so that it includes penalty calls in the future.

“We’ve had discussions going back to last offseason talking about expanding replay and adding to the list of reviewable plays,” Blandino said, via the Lions website. “I think when you look at the evolution of replay and where it started, it was always based in fact. Did the football touch the ground? Did the foot touch the sideline? And we stayed away from the areas that involved subjective judgement. There’s always judgement, but there’s different levels of subjective judgement and that was in the areas of pass interference and offensive holding. I think it’s something as the technology has improved and now we have high definition and super slow motion and 4K, all of that technology begs the question can we eliminate some of the mistakes that happen during the game? I think that’s something that’s going to be on the agenda this offseason.”

Over the years, one of the chief objections to expanding replay is that it would lead to slower games. It’s hard to see where there would be a huge rise in the number of challenges if the current arrangement for coaches is kept in place, however, and the ability to make the correct ruling on the field rather than in a press release after a game should be an appealing one.

58 responses to “Lions have proposed expanding replay to cover penalty calls

  1. That play had absolutely no impact on the Cowboys winning the game. There was plenty of more opportunities to score and win, Stafford got sacked and then striped sacked. Lions are not that good of a football team, period.

  2. Coach Belichick is right, EVERYTHING should be able to be reviewed if the coach throws the red flag.

  3. been saying it for the last couple years. Give each coach 1 “Super Flag” that they can challenge anything!
    This will eliminate the critical mistake by officials that determine games. Make it so the coach get’s 1 chance to challenge any call or non call. No penalty if wrong, but they only get 1.
    This will eliminate all the garbage plays that are not challengable that the refs pull out of the butt at the games most critical time.
    No reason not to do this… so it most likely will not happen.
    (college need this as well too, maybe more than the NFL)

  4. Why not? A lot of those flags are game changing plays, and the officials have to make a lot of close judgements in a faction of a second. I think if a play if challenged, every aspect of it should be reviewed.. including if they should have or shouldn’t have thrown a flag. Why not try to make everything correct if you have the ability?

  5. The NFL gets more and more ridiculous.

    This league is continuing to kill itself. Instead of more replays try less or better yet none. It worked well in the 30’s through the 80’s.

  6. Sounds great but it’d be a nightmare. For every clear-cut correction of an obviously blown all there’d be 20 that were all shades of grey that either couldn’t be overturned despite being awfully close to that level or would be overturned when they probably shouldn’t have been. And NOTHING is worse than a replay reversal where the final outcome is just as questionable as the original live call. It’d only increase people’s perceptions that both the field and replay refs were horrible.

  7. rl79111 says:
    Jan 29, 2015 5:02 PM
    That play had absolutely no impact on the Cowboys winning the game. There was plenty of more opportunities to score and win, Stafford got sacked and then striped sacked. Lions are not that good of a football team, period.

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    Seattle should not be in the Super Bowl. They only got lucky at the end. The other 58 minutes was all Packers. Send the Seahawks home now and bring in the Pack since Seattle had plenty of opporutnity with other plays to win the game.

  8. “slvrnblk72 says:
    Jan 29, 2015 5:01 PM
    Let it go Detroit”

    I know you are a Raider fan, so the importance of playoff games may not be quite as clear to you as it is to fans of actual professional football teams, but the Lions and their fans have a legit gripe here.

  9. You could call holding on just about every play of every game. If you could challenge penalties or the lack thereof, every time a defense gets burned for an 80 yd TD, the coach will throw the flag and claim a tackle was holding.

    This is a massive, massive slippery slope and would further destroy a game that is already over-regulated.

  10. Blandino: “…we stayed away from the areas that involved subjective judgement…”

    Steratore on Dez catch:”…In our judgment, he maintained possession but continued to fall and never had another act common to the game. We deemed that by our judgment to be the full process of the catch, ….”

    It seems that subjective judgement is ok when convenient.

  11. Pass interference is such a judgement thing that it will be very rarely overturned (see the CFL who allows challenges of PI). There are penalties that are not judgement and MUST be replayed. Offsides or False start are so easy to review. These are the next to be reviewed.

  12. If they had replay this year the replay would have shown no penalty. There is no faceguarding penalty any more. Stafford threw it right at the back of Hitchens…and get over it Detroit.

  13. firecracker87 says: Jan 29, 2015 5:10 PM

    rl79111 says:
    Jan 29, 2015 5:02 PM
    That play had absolutely no impact on the Cowboys winning the game. There was plenty of more opportunities to score and win, Stafford got sacked and then striped sacked. Lions are not that good of a football team, period.

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    Seattle should not be in the Super Bowl. They only got lucky at the end. The other 58 minutes was all Packers. Send the Seahawks home now and bring in the Pack since Seattle had plenty of opporutnity with other plays to win the game.
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    A very bold comment from a Packer fan, seeing as how the Packers should not have been in the NFC Championship Game. To make matters worse, your team committed one of the biggest chokes in NFL history.

  14. @firecracker

    The Packers should have played a full 60 minutes. Seattle played awful…did everything in their power to hand that game to the Packers (well the offense anyways, the defense played pretty well considering the positions they were getting put in)…all they had to do was not choke it away.

  15. All of you fans that had teams in the playoffs this year should really just let it go. Your teams: Packers, Cowboys, Lions and Seahawks all played very well the season and you should be proud of that. At least you didn’t have to endure a complete season of frustration, torture, anger and depression!

    – A very disappointed Bears fan

  16. This would really only add controversy. It wouldn’t change anything. How many time have you seen a call overturned with zero conclusive evidence the call on the field was wrong? How about calls that should obviously be upheld but are overturned anyway?

    The NFL has a history of trying to eliminate things that happen once in a blue moon at the expense of things that happen frequently. Those are just labeled unintended consequences.

    If a RB reaches for the goal line on a close play but is called down, a coach has to burn a challenge (if he has one) solely because the ref did not signal TD. Same exact play and the ref says it is a TD then it is automatically reviewed. Same thing goes for whether or not a play is ruled a turnover. If the goal is to ensure the right call is made then review either way on those close plays.

  17. I could go along with that but have to wonder just how much it will extend games. I can easily see a 3hr game going for almost 4 hrs and that’ll play hell with TV overruns for the 2nd games on any given day.

  18. radioactivechimp says:
    Jan 29, 2015 5:17 PM
    It might slow down the game, but I really have seeing all the phantom pass interference calls where there was no contact by the db at all

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    That’s just it, it shouldn’t slow down the game if the coaches still only have two challenges. Actually, it might slow it down a little as the coaches might use challenges more often, but over all, the game will still be around the same amount of time.

    It might also make the refs better at speeding up challenges, because they’ll be doing them more, thus becoming more proficient.

    I for one think this is one of those things they should trial in the preseason and when it works (because it’s obvious it will), make it a rule.

  19. Only for hitting the qb or defenseless. And for the hitting the helmet penalties.

    Also nobody will ever show the other angle where hitchens facemask was being grabbed.

  20. I’d be all for making reviewable as long as the amount of challenges a coach had per game didn’t change and it was only when PI was called that you could challenge and not just whenever a coach felt like PI was committed.

  21. I think the NFL would be wise to test a system during the pre-season and, at very least, implement it for playoff games.

  22. I think the only penalties that can really be challenged are the personal fouls. How could you challenge pass interference? It’s entirely a judgment call make in real time. There’s hand fighting and pushing going on by both players, and offensive linemen and defensive players hold all the time, but the majority of them aren’t called. I think instituting a review on all penalties could really damage the quality of the games

  23. “it was only when PI was called that you could challenge and not just whenever a coach felt like PI was committed.”

    I don’t know how you could review one and not the other. Phantom calls sometimes happen but obvious interference is also sometimes missed. How do you try to fix one problem and not the other?

    Also, human nature being what it is, the likely outcome of PI calls getting overturned will be fewer PI calls, meaning there will be more legitimate PI missed. You can already see this tendency in officials due to replay today. Notice how they let plays go way longer without blowing them dead, expecting replay to sort everything out after the fact? They’re slow to even signal touchdowns for fear of being proven wrong.

  24. I find it a little ironic that the dirtiest team in the league would want closer examination of penalties.

    Be careful of what you with for!

  25. Judgement calls are always going to be judgement calls and will cause controversy.

    Keep some of the controversy but change PI to 10 or 15 yards.

  26. Totally agree: The refs are constantly blowing it. If the NFL had any integrity at all they would embrace full time refs and anything that would add professionalism instead of judgment calls. I mean some of these calls can change peoples lives.

  27. good, reviews would of showed that the lions were aided most of the day,including on a play that Bush scored his touchdown on.

    review the plays early on, and Romo wouldn’t of needed heroics to pull the game out

  28. Only pass inteference should be challengable. A big penalty can switch the field, who wants to give up 40 yards on a questionable PI? You saw what happened in the Lions/Cowboys game… clearly PI according to the rule book.

    Lets get this changed asap.

  29. So can Dallas challenge a play that was already challenged by the Packers? Hmm.

    I think they should add a challenge and as long as you are correct you don’t lose any of your remaining challenges.
    Then a lot of the bad calls and judgment plays would be eliminated.

  30. @mogog1 you’re right. I agree and thought about that while I was typing my comment. I personally (not that I’d have a say so) wouldn’t have a problem with coaches having the option to challenge when they thought PI was committed either. The main thing to take into consideration when they discuss this is how much longer it may drag the game out if the officials have to review every PI call so for me I believe it should be challengeable with coaches still getting the same amount of challenges . I really don’t see a way to fix both that wouldn’t make the game last longer and cause officials to cut down on PI calls to avoid having to review it therefore dragging the game out.

  31. I agree with the others that PI should be reviewable, if for no other reason than to stop the stupid play where:

    – WR has a step on the defender
    – WR stops/slows running to generate contact
    – Ball flies 5 yards over the WR’s head
    – 40 yard flag for PI

    If they don’t do that, then there needs to be some overhaul on PI. It’s a sad state where a badly underthrown ball is a good play that draws a flag, and a perfectly thrown ball is worse since a DB that is blind to the play can just stick his hand in at the last minute to knock the ball loose.

  32. Lions, here is a free pointer, try scoring more than 3 points in the 2nd half of a playoff game and then everything doesn’t hinge on one play.

  33. I say after every play, they review it. Call anything that was missed that broke a rule. There you libs, you’ve ruined this game as planned.

  34. The Cowboys CLEARLY didn’t belong in the game with the Packers. The Packers proved it and the Refs gave it to Jerry Jones and his party bus. The is no secret about it, the Refs blew the game. The Lions would beat the Cowboys 9 out of 10 games, 99% of America agrees.

  35. I hope they pass this just for the hilarity that will ensue. Half the coaches in the league will have used up all of their challenges 10 minutes into the first quarter.

    Seriously, though, I fully support it. The only thing the league has to do is enforce replay review time limits that have always been in place but regularly ignored, and keep the amount of challenges the same, and it will have no measurable effect on the length of games.

  36. NFL football referred, you are definitely delusional if you think the Lions could beat the Cowboys 9 out of 10 times. Don’t worry I will make sure they up your meds.

  37. How about score enough points where you can overcome a judgement call on the refs interpretation of the rules. A judgement call they are most likely interpreting correctly from their training to be an NFL ref. There are some calls that no matter what they rule, 50% of the fans are going to hate it. Way too much whining about refs in the NFL, player coaches and fans are all guilty of this. Lions fans are more guilty than most.

  38. These refs still get it wrong when they look at replays now and will in the future. The NFL is in trouble because they have no credibility.

  39. can we just get back to old fashioned smash mouth, smack talking, you can hit the QB, who cares about PSi, football! miss the good ole days.

  40. Too bad Detroit didn’t learn anything from how Dallas handled the controversial call the following week. Dez said what he said about it once, the rest of the comments about it being a catch came from those who aren’t Cowboys.

  41. Only for hitting the qb or defenseless. And for the hitting the helmet penalties.

    Also nobody will ever show the other angle where hitchens facemask was being grabbed.
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    Clearly from the down votes this is thread is a pity party for Detroit fan. I have a screen shot of the stiff arm facemask. To be fair, Hitchens grabbed (held) him after 5 yards and before the facemask. offsetting penalties would have been the correct call.
    And the genius who muttered something about Detroit beating Dallas 9/10 is in fantasyland. Get good Detroit and you’ll have a chance next year.

  42. I’m going to put this in all caps so the fans who keep insisting that Detroit got screwed will hopefully finally get the full picture:

    PETTIGREW PULLED ON HITCHENS’S FACEMASK ON THE PLAY.

    Hitchens had very good, tight coverage on a lumbering TE, who then (almost certainly accidentally, but it still counts) pulled down for a good second on Hitchens’s facemask. That pull drew him closer and also forced him to push Pettigrew’s arm away (to get it off his facemask) and ALSO prevented Hitchens from getting his head turned around (although the rule that says the defender has to play the ball and have his head turned was eliminated some years ago anyways).

    If the play had been eligible for replay, PETTIGREW would have been the one flagged. SO WILL YOU PLEASE STOP COMPLAINING???

  43. Fact is, if Hitchens could have turned to play the ball, which he could not due to Pettigrew holding his facemask, it would have been an INT considering where Staffords weak sauuce throw jit Hitchens. Stop crying. You lost, Even after that play, Dallas and detroit had the ball. Dallas just used ther posession to score, Detroit did not.

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