NFL morning after: The Patriots are the NFL’s greatest dynasty

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Move over, Chuck Noll’s Steelers. Step aside, Vince Lombardi’s Packers. Tom Landry’s Cowboys and Bill Walsh’s 49ers? Sorry, folks. There’s a new team that has shown beyond a shadow of a doubt that it’s the greatest dynasty in NFL history.

Bill Belichick’s New England Patriots have achieved consistent greatness at a time when staying on top is harder than ever before, and as a result they deserve recognition for the best run this sport has ever seen.

With their fourth Super Bowl win on Sunday, Belichick and Tom Brady have put together a run that surpasses even what Terry Bradshaw did with Noll, what Bart Starr did with Lombardi, what Roger Staubach did with Landry and what Joe Montana did with Walsh. It’s not just that Belichick has won more postseason games than any other coach. It’s not just that Brady won his third Super Bowl MVP in his record sixth Super Bowl as a starting quarterback. It’s that the Patriots are doing it during the era of unrestricted free agency and the salary cap, when the NFL is making it all but impossible for the team on top to stay on top.

Think about everything the Patriots have done since Brady became their starting quarterback in 2001: In addition to appearing in six Super Bowls and winning four, they’ve had a winning record for 14 consecutive seasons. They’ve had the only 16-0 regular season in NFL history. They’ve made it to the conference championship round of the playoffs nine times — nine times. They’ve made it to the playoffs 11 of the last 12 years, missing only in the year when Brady was lost for the season with a Week One knee injury — and even that year they went 11-5. They’ve consistently been the best franchise in football.

It’s so hard to keep winning in today’s NFL. The salary cap and free agency mean you simply can’t keep all of your best players together for years at a time, the way those great Steelers and Packers and Cowboys and 49ers teams used to do. Even a great franchise like the Seahawks, who have been to three Super Bowls and made the playoffs nine times during this Patriots reign, also went through a rough patch in which they had four consecutive losing seasons. That’s just the way it works in the NFL. You can’t stay on top for a decade or more.

At least, you can’t unless you’re the New England Patriots. They’ve found a way to do it. They’re consistent winners like no other team in the history of the league.

Here are my other thoughts from Super Bowl Sunday:

Remember “On to Cincinnati”? It’s amazing to think that it was only four months ago that the Patriots lost 41-14 to the Chiefs, and Bill Belichick was peppered with questions about whether the Patriots dynasty had come to an end. Belichick simply repeated, “We’re on to Cincinnati” every time he was asked about the loss at Kansas City, and sure enough the Patriots responded by blowing out the Bengals that Sunday. Belichick is a master at getting his players to tune everything else out and simply focus on the task at hand, and after winning the Super Bowl on Sunday night, Belichick pointed to the aftermath of that loss to the Chiefs as the turning point in the season.

Russell Wilson had a slow start, and a disastrous finish. Wilson has a reputation for playing well in big games, but that reputation has to take a hit after this Super Bowl. He didn’t complete a single pass in the first quarter for the second consecutive game and struggled for much of the first half. And although Wilson settled down and looked like he was on the verge of a game-winning comeback, his last pass was a terrible interception that never should have been thrown. Wilson is a good young quarterback, but he had a rough game.

Chris Matthews stepped it up in the playoffs. Matthews, a backup receiver for the Seahawks, had never caught a pass in his NFL career until Sunday, when his 44-yard catch in the second quarter gave the Seahawks their biggest play of the game to that point and set up Seattle’s first touchdown. Matthews’s second NFL catch was for a touchdown just before halftime. On the day, Matthews had four catches for 109 yards. Matthews also recovered the Seahawks’ onside kick in the NFC Championship Game, setting up their dramatic comeback. Maybe Matthews is a young player who has a great career ahead of him or maybe he’ll always be a little-used backup, but whatever else he does, he’s already made a major impact on two huge games.

What if Marshawn had been MVP? If the Seahawks had done the smart thing at the end of the game and handed off to Marshawn Lynch, there’s a good chance he would have scored the game-winning touchdown. Lynch, who finished with 102 yards and a touchdown, might have been the Most Valuable Player if he had added a game-winning score to his impressive game. If that had happened, it would have been fascinating to see what Lynch had done: The NFL relies on the MVP to go through a series of media appearances on the day after the Super Bowl, but Lynch likely would have either skipped those appearances or used them to call attention to his distaste for the way the NFL does business. It would have been incredibly awkward for the NFL if Lynch had won the award. Roger Goodell would never admit to rooting against any individual player, but you can bet he was rooting against Lynch winning Super Bowl MVP.

Edelman was excellent. Patriots receiver Julian Edelman had an outstanding game, catching nine passes for 109 yards and the game-winning touchdown. Edelman is just the kind of player Belichick excels at identifying and developing: Edelman was a college quarterback at Kent State who was mostly overlooked by the NFL because he was nowhere near a good enough passer to run an NFL offense. But Belichick saw some potential in Edelman and used a seventh-round draft pick on him in 2009, and all Edelman has done is become a good receiver and punt returner who is one of the most important players on this Patriots team. If you’re going to stay on top in the NFL for years, you can’t do it by building up a stockpile of All-Pro players. The salary cap just won’t allow for that. What you have to do is find good, solid role players who fill the needs your team has. In New England, Julian Edelman is that kind of player. Players like him allow the Patriots to stay on top.

191 responses to “NFL morning after: The Patriots are the NFL’s greatest dynasty

  1. I am AMAZED that PFT just wrote this piece, recognizing the true greatness of this Bill Belichick/Tom Brady era.

    Not all New England fans are band-wagon jumpers, ,many of us old geezers struggled through some really bad teams; we saw 2-124, we saw Rod Rust, we grew up thinking that 3rd and 21 was NORMAL.

    We love watching this team fight hard year after year, shedding star players at the peak of their years, only to replace them with guys who work hard, like Edelman.

    It has been so enjoyable seeing the level of success this team has had, and its so frustrating to see them dragged through the mud at times like Spygate, the walk-through taping that never happened, deflategate which is becoming clearer and clearer never happened, and to see all the haters taking shot after shot at this great team.

    They just keep winning.

    Someday, Tom Brady and Bill Belichick are going go retire, and after that there will be little joy in New England for years to come, s we are happy just to soak al this in.

    It’s been an INCREDIBLE run, one we – and the entire NFL – may never see again.

    And for as long as it lasts, Patriots fans around the world will say to the rest of you:

    Suck it, haters, you hate us because you AINT us!!!!!

  2. Richard Sherman going from taunting Revis to having an all-time GIF reaction on the goal line pick is awesome. Seattle just got arrogant on the last play call, trying to be too smart rather than just giving it to your horse. Sometimes the smartest choice is the obvious choice.

  3. ariani1985 says:
    Feb 1, 2015 10:10 PM
    Packers would have lost by 40!
    /////////////////////////////////////////////

    That’s very speculative and opinionated, even for a Viking troll. The Packers did well against New England previously. Congratulations to them. I couldn’t bear to listen to the insufferable personalities on that Seahawks team the entire off-season. Thank you Patriots, thank you very much.

    And if you want facts, stick with this; The Packers own the Vikings. Nothing has changed on that front.

  4. I’ll agree, but with an asterisk (no, not spy-gate)…for the vast majority of the time mentioned in the article, they played in a division where there was little competition.

  5. Malcolm Butler was moving to the spot at the snap of the ball. No hesitation. Plant and go. That kind of preparation for a guy who wasn’t expected to be on the field is why Belichick is so great.

  6. Can’t argue with the conclusion – it’s remarkable what they have accomplished. And I’m a Steelers fan – you know it practically spitting these words out. But give them their due.

  7. Settle down. This is the Pats first title in a decade. There are very few links left to the last Pats title, although the ones that are still around are certainly notable ones.

    The Pats have been a very good football team for a very long time. That does not make them a dynasty unless you’re grading on the curve of parity which defines the NFL since the turn of the century. The greatest dynasty of all time does not need a grading curve to even be called one.

  8. Belichick and Noll are so similar….Noll didn’t win another one after Bradshaw, but in 1989 he did his best coaching job ever…came a dropped pass away from afc championship..

    Brady and Hoody are the best….was 10 years since last title, knocked on door often. last night showed just how hard it is to win a title…
    but in the end, Tom Brady proved for the millionth time he is simply the best…

    kudos to edelman- was amazing, amendlola too. i don’t want to hear about the Pats got lucky, good teams create luck…
    congrats New England !!!!!!

  9. How can anyone make such a statement about the Pats when they have been caught cheating at least once that we know of, without even a mention of the cheating? That is an important part of their story that cannot be erased. Why should winning make cheating acceptable?

  10. Report: The NFL is investigating the ball Malcolm Butler intercepted to seal the game, according to the 4 letter network. It appears the ball was over inflated, which allowed Russell Wilson to throw deep, high arcing passes.

  11. WE ARE THE BEST!!!!!! PATS NATION!!!!!!!!!!!

    Congrats, Seattle. But, stay classy!!!

    BRADY AND BELICHICK AND KRAFT = GOAT!!!!!

    Time for a repeat!!!!

    Deflate these, haters!!!

  12. Brady…13-15 , 14 points in 4th quarter…Seattle D, no way they are in same conversation w/”85-6 Bears…no way.

    People want to point to a bad play call…but remember, Kearse’ catch…pure luck. They were LUCKY to be there in 1st place.

    NE FANS KNOW…That this game vintage Pete [ the poodle] Carroll coaching. Lack of discipline, and bad coaching moves. He did the same stuff in NE…him and Zampese…was AWFUL…They ran him out of town..fast.

    The better team won.

  13. Wilson absolutely did not have a rough game. He had a higher passer rating than Brady! Who cares if Wilson didn’t complete a pass in the first quarter. He barely attempted any throws and Brady did a great job chewing up the clock in that first quarter! Games are not just a quarter in length. Wilson caught fire and was completely nailing difficult deep passes all night to a group of ALL undrafted wide receivers! Had they won Wilson would have been just as viable an MVP candidate as Lynch.

  14. The NFL would’ve had Russell Wilson do the media responsibilities the day after had Lynch scored the game winner and been named MVP. I’m pretty sure Trent Dilfer did something similar after Ray Lewis won the MVP in Super Bowl XXXV.

  15. sorosbolshevism says:
    Feb 2, 2015 6:46 AM
    I’ll agree, but with an asterisk (no, not spy-gate)…for the vast majority of the time mentioned in the article, they played in a division where there was little competition.

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    That is played out. Over the last 14 years they have played every division and dominated them all. Just be happy they don’t play your team every year or you would have a gimme 2 losses

  16. 0 since Deflate Gate…..nope
    yeah but they deflated the footballs in the supebowl….nope

    4 out of 6….Deion ‘I am proud of you’ when you say 4-4, but this QB is by himself as is his head coach who passed the “great Don Shula’….a little humility goes a long way.

    Bennet shows the type of player he is, a low life.

    Wilson, BeastMode and Pete are all awesome and if they can stay together, they may get their chance in the future.

    I am sure this win will get as much coverage as the entire ‘sports’ world coming down on NE in the past 2 weeks.

    In the end, it is all about family…

  17. Nobody outside of Boston cares.

    Congratulations on your victory.

    Don’t forget to send Bevell and Co. a Thank You card for handing it to you on a silver platter.

    Also, let us not forget the call that started it all for the chowds: The Tuck Rule.

    Enjoy your dynasty, now go shovel some snow.

  18. I poured over the official NFL record book for the past 49 Super Bowls; I looked and looked all night and I couldn’t find a single asterisk anywhere. The ones you naysayers draw in with a red crayon from your moms basement don’t count. Learn your place. Sit down.

  19. Great coach, great owner, great QB…. All tainted because of their pompous disregard for ethics and integrity of the game. Butler should have been MVP, Brady had not won the game until Butler made the greatest play of the game.

  20. “People want to point to a bad play call…but remember, Kearse’ catch…pure luck. They were LUCKY to be there in 1st place.”
    ===========================

    Not just lucky to be near the goal line, they were lucky to be in the game at all. It took an epic collapse by the Packers for them to get the home win that propelled them there.

  21. These Mighty Patriots are unstoppable! You can’t beat them in the regular season, you can’t beat them in the post season, and you certainly can’t beat them in the Super Bowl.

    Unless you’re The New York Football Giants, twice!!

  22. The word Dynasty gets thrown around now like it actually means something in sports when really it doesn’t

  23. I’ll agree, but with an asterisk (no, not spy-gate)…for the vast majority of the time mentioned in the article, they played in a division where there was little competition.

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    8 of the last 9 seasons had an AFC East representative in the conference championship game.

    Funny how that happens for such a weak division. If the division was so bad shouldn’t their teams be going one and done all the time?

  24. What I’ll take away from this SB are the two offensive players who never give up on a play: Lynch and Edelman. They just never stop working, and it’s impressive. How many times did the Pats STUFF Lynch at the line and he still managed to get a couple of yards, at least?

    Great game.

    And, as far as the interception goes – if Butler doesn’t make a miraculous play, that’s a TD – or an incompletion. He did a fantastic job not just getting into position, but holding onto the ball. Easily one of the greatest plays in SB history. But I don’t think it was such a terrible call. It’s easy to call it so in retrospect, but if they’d scored we’d be talking about how brilliant and gutsy it was.

    This is what we always want the SB to be.

  25. Patriots — proving that cheating pays!
    Seahawks – proving that Bevell is an idiot as playcaller!

    Greatest Dynasty—not a chance – Green Bay and Vince Lombardi!

    Bob Kraft – big fake as a high integrity owner!

    Belicheat – great coach and game planner!

    Tom Brady – great on field QB

  26. Pats are one of the greatest teams under Belichick, but it kinda calls into question the definition of ‘dynasty’. Isn’t what made the other teams ‘dynasties’ (and you forgot the ’40’s-’50’s Browns if we’re talkin history) the fact that the other teams DID have mostly the same players year to year? Only Wilfork and Brady are left from the previous Pats SB winners.
    Really Belichick/Brady is the ‘dynasty.’

    And the jealous squealers who troll ‘cheat’ and asterisk’ are now even more irrelevant.

  27. GOAT. Won a superbowl after spy gate. The balls were not deflated. We won. We are champs AGAIN. Now what are people gonna say and type to attempt to break up our beautiful patriot nation?????

  28. Credit where it’s due. Respect to the Pats. As much as I subjectively think the Steelers or the 49ers – and I hate, as a Bucs & Bengals fan, to say this for either team – would probably, in their prime, tear up any of the Pats’ SB winners, it’s all opinion.

    Hail to the victors and on to the offseason carousing and speculating….

  29. It looks like the Pats may well match and surpass the Raiders’ mark of 16 consecutive winning seasons (which was during a run of 20 winning seasons in 21 years). I have to give a tip of my hat to the Patriot org. and fans for that….but that only goes for those Pats fans who were there during their team’s leaner years as I don’t respect band-wagon jumpers.

    It’ll be interesting to see whether Belichick can match Tom Landry’s mark of 20 consecutive winning seasons considering that it’s not likely that Brady will be the New England QB (at least at the same level) for 6+ more years.

  30. Patriots won 4 in 14 seasons. The Steelers won 4 in 5 seasons, the 49’ers 4 in 9 seasons.

    The only reason we’re even discussing this is because Pete Carroll lost his mind at the end of the game.

    Let’s tap the breaks a bit.

  31. Niners actually flipped rosters completely as well between 1981 and 1988 and had to beat heavyweights just to reach the Super Bowl. 5 titles, 11 NFC Championship Games, 10 plus wins in 18 of 21 years, slow down overreactors.

  32. Isn’t this the same fool along with his buddy Florio and all the other so called experts in the media saying only a week ago that Seattle was a dynasty?! The 49ers never lost a Superbowl during their run son! Montana never threw an INT in the big game. You guys are a joke

  33. BTW the first half decision to go for the touchdown instead of kicking a field goal was just as bad as the final play call, they just got lucky on that one

  34. This feels–this morning, anyway–like the most satisfying SB win of them all, because it cements the team’s and coach’s and QB’s legacies. The Tyree catch still haunts my dreams and Kearse’s was even crazier and more miraculous. When Kearse made that catch, I was convinced the gods were out to screw the Pats. Instead….

    Oh, and Brandon Browner was worth every freakin’ penalty flag they threw at him this year.

  35. M.D.S. Readers know you weren’t born when a team in the 1960’s just happened to win five championships in nine years and did not have to resort to cheating or “bending the rules” multiple times during that span.

    They also played “the real football” everyone whines about!

    Go Pack Go!!

  36. Asterisks, no humility other than from Brady, Revis and Wilfork. You can’t deny they are great, I just don’t have much faith in the league to create a level playing field. If my team wasn’t pushing the boundaries and breaking or bending some rules, I hope they get with it.

  37. One thing to say

    IBBWT

    In Bill Belichick We Trust. The day that man walked into the building at Foxboro – all of this was born.

    Brady is great but, this is all Bill Belichick’s doing!

    Greatest EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  38. Your ANALysis is just not right, Lombardi, Noll and the Cowboys won with honor. The Patriots will always be tainted by scandal like the Chicago Black Sox.

  39. Not sure that the title of “NFL’s greatest dynasty” belongs to the Patriots. San Francisco won 5 titles over the same period of time that it took NE to win 4. The Steelers run of 4 championships in 6 years was unprecedented, and something that no other team has (or probably will) be able to duplicate. There’s also the fact that during their respective dynasties, neither the Steelers or 49er’s lost a Super Bowl.

  40. This Superbowl win has preempted any negative findings the Wells’s report may bring. I’m sorry but unless there is evidence Brady and Belichick lied about directing ball boys to deflate game balls, the report will come across as NFL nitpicking and nothing more then sour grapes.

  41. Great game. Both teams played their hearts out. Had me on the edge of my seat for most of it. That’s the way a SB should be. Even if it probably took a couple years off my life in stress and greasy food.

    Finally, the Patriots can be #OntotheGolfCourse! Or #OntoVegas in Gronk’s case, probably.

  42. lemmetalkwouldya says: Feb 2, 2015 6:45 AM

    I am AMAZED that PFT just wrote this piece, recognizing the true greatness of this Bill Belichick/Tom Brady era.

    Not all New England fans are band-wagon jumpers, ,many of us old geezers struggled through some really bad teams; we saw 2-124, we saw Rod Rust, we grew up thinking that 3rd and 21 was NORMAL.

    We love watching this team fight hard year after year, shedding star players at the peak of their years, only to replace them with guys who work hard, like Edelman.

    It has been so enjoyable seeing the level of success this team has had, and its so frustrating to see them dragged through the mud at times like Spygate, the walk-through taping that never happened, deflategate which is becoming clearer and clearer never happened, and to see all the haters taking shot after shot at this great team.

    They just keep winning.

    Someday, Tom Brady and Bill Belichick are going go retire, and after that there will be little joy in New England for years to come, s we are happy just to soak al this in.

    It’s been an INCREDIBLE run, one we – and the entire NFL – may never see again.

    And for as long as it lasts, Patriots fans around the world will say to the rest of you:

    Suck it, haters, you hate us because you AINT us!!!!!

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    I’m with you there 100%, brother! I remember all too well the 1990 season, where our beloved Pats were 1-15, probably the worst season in their history. The long road to the dynasty began when Bob Kraft bought the team. They came real close to becoming the St.Louis Patriots!

    Hey all you Belihaters out there, how do you like this win? No whiff of cheating anywhere, Pats were the better team. As Paul “Wrecking” Crewe said to the warden at the end of the movie The Longest Yard, stick this in your trophy case!

    PATRIOTS FOREVER!!

  43. GOAT
    Just more reason to hate the PATS. Too bad.
    Great great win over very loudmouth team that was under the impression that they had one of the greatest defenses of al time. An all time D would have at least got a stop in the 4th. End of that junk. Nice sportsmanship at the end of the game.

  44. Edelman should have been MVP. Dink-and-dunk wouldn’t have been as easy without him constantly winning on routes.

  45. Nice, calling a pack of cheaters a dynasty?
    Vince Lombardi and Bill Walsh are rolling in their graves..

    Shame on you guys

  46. Love this post bringing up all the amazing things this team has done since 2001, but to simply nitpick the article, they also missed the playoffs in 2002 – going 9-7.

  47. Kind of amazing. The Seahawks showed their true colors, didn’t they? They get beat by the better team. How do they react? No sportsmanship (Irvin amongst others), zero class. Why didn’t we hear Sherman flapping his gums that much after the game?

    He can sure dish it out, but cannot take it.

    Congrats, Patriots, from a long time die hard fan.

  48. THE TEARS OF THE PATRIOT HATERS ARE OUR JOY.

    OUR TEAM IS BETTER THAN YOURS.

    OUR TEAM IS TOUGHER THAN YOURS.

    OUR TEAM IS STRONGER THAN YOURS.

    OUR TEAM IS THE NFL’S GREATEST DYNASTY.

    PREACH.

    #TRUTH
    #FACTSAREFACTS

  49. “No-one cares”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA OH YES YOU DO. YOU CARE VERY MUCH. YOU ARE SEETHING RIGHT NOW. WE CAN TASTE YOUR MISERY. AND IT IS DELICIOUS.

    ON YOUR KNEES AND KISS THE RING FOOLS.

  50. The comments about the Pats playing in a weak division make me laugh. You’d think if they played in such a weak division they would fail in the playoffs every year.

  51. There you go Pats fans, get that karma working against you. Giving Seattle grief about humility and now you’re just as obnoxious. Karma exists in football and you’re stirring it up. Keep it level and enjoy.

  52. The Patriots deserve to be called a dynasty because of their consistent achievement for fourteen year and 4 Lambordi trophies bur they did not win 4 superowls in 6 years such as the Steelers. Congratulations Patriots.

  53. I’ll agree, but with an asterisk (no, not spy-gate)…for the vast majority of the time mentioned in the article, they played in a division where there was little competition

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    Apparently you don’t remember the NFC West when Montana played.

  54. They draft at #29 or worse every year…..and then keep winning……….for 14 straight years. If it is so easy, why doManning and Rodgers and Favre only have 1 ring each.
    The Hoodie is the greatest…FACT

  55. Pats are one of the greatest teams under Belichick, but it kinda calls into question the definition of ‘dynasty’. Isn’t what made the other teams ‘dynasties’ (and you forgot the ’40’s-’50’s Browns if we’re talkin history) the fact that the other teams DID have mostly the same players year to year? Only Wilfork and Brady are left from the previous Pats SB winners.
    Really Belichick/Brady is the ‘dynasty.’
    ——————-

    There aren’t supposed to be any dynasties anymore. And no team is supposed to have a 14 and counting year run of success like these Patriots.

    Good teams are set up for failure and lousy teams are set up for success in the new NFL.

    What the Patriots are doing isn’t supposed to happen in the new NFL.

    #thatsthepoint

  56. I wish we would throw the term “dynasty” away. It makes people think that you have to win every Super Bowl every year to keep a “dynasty” in tact. What has happened in New England is an anomaly that few will ever allow themselves to understand. They found themselves a coach who also had an advanced understanding of the salary cap, a knack for scouting, and despite his outward demeanor a once in a generation ability to motivate his players.

    Deal with it or don’t. The Lombardi is coming to Foxboro once again.

  57. belicheck’s patriots have had a great run but they are NOT the greatest dynasty ever. they won 4 championships in 14 years. impressive. the steelers won 4 in 6 years which was better and the 49ers won 5 in 14 years, which was still better. besides, the patriots run has been too tainted because of all the cheating.

  58. vincentbojackson says:
    Feb 2, 2015 7:34 AM
    Patriots won 4 in 14 seasons. The Steelers won 4 in 5 seasons, the 49’ers 4 in 9 seasons.

    The only reason we’re even discussing this is because Pete Carroll lost his mind at the end of the game.

    Let’s tap the breaks a bit.


    So the Patriots get no credit for coming back. Brady 13-15 127 yards and 2 TD. In the 4th Q. And 8-8 on the last drive.

    If not for that we wouldn’t be discussing it either

  59. Just an FYI Edelman never assaulted anyone. The girls boyfriend recognized him and had his Drunk GF say that to try and get Edelman to pay his tab…

    Ice UP SON…

    #WORLDCHAMPS

    #BringTheHate

  60. mullman76 says: Feb 2, 2015 7:09 AM

    Nobody outside of Boston cares.

    Congratulations on your victory.

    Don’t forget to send Bevell and Co. a Thank You card for handing it to you on a silver platter.

    Also, let us not forget the call that started it all for the chowds: The Tuck Rule.

    Enjoy your dynasty, now go shovel some snow.
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    You mad bro? Want some tissue for those tears!!! Bostonians could care less about how people feel outside of our region.

  61. They have One Super Bowl win in Franchise History, Last Night’s win. How does One Super Bowl win make them the greatest Dynasty in History?

    They need to win a few more.

  62. Not sure you can paint it that way when the Coach, Team, and Organization sacrifice the integrity of the game. The first ticket I ever received for speeding wasn’t the first time I broke that law, and I have had a few since then. Nothing that this organization accomplishes can be legitimized. Who knows what other filth lies beneath.

  63. This is sweet… I echo the sentiments of many of the Steeler and Niner fans … They were great teams … The only way these Patriots get that top spot is to win it again… That would just seal it… I wish…I wish….

    Ladies and gentleman , your 2015 World Champion NE Patriots…

  64. I’m a Raiders fan and although I hate the Steelers, 4 in 6 is definitely more impressive, especially in an era when the QB could actually be touched without drawing a flag and receivers could be molested 40 yards down the field.

  65. WHATEVER… THIS TEAM CHEATS, CHEATS, AND BENDS THE RULES. THEIR SISSY QB WON’T TAKE A HIT. CHEATERS… Team is a joke and always will be a joke. Media loves them even though they lie to media all the time.

  66. They may be a “Dynasty” but they are not the greatest team ever
    That belongs to the Vincent Thomas Lombardi lead
    Green Bay Packers
    9 years ,6 title games,5 victories

    And that’s the facts

  67. Since 2001 the New England Patriots have a 170-57 regular season record, have won 12 AFC east division titles, 6 conference championships, and 4 Super Bowls.

    Simply amazing.

  68. Greatest dynasty ever????

    That’s an interesting subjective interpretation. But Lombardi’s Packers objectively won more championships (5) in less years (9). All of this came after they lost their first title game, and Lombardi said he’d never lose another playoff game.

    The Packers have a NFL record 13 World Championships.

    Nuff said.

  69. They’re certainly up there but as much as this makes me want to throw up, the Steelers are the greatest dynasty ever. I get it that everyone wants to love Brady and the Patriots but take away the worst play call in the history of sports and you have a team that loses 3 straight superbowls failing to shed the spygate legacy. They got really lucky here.

  70. Sure the championships are impressive, but we’ll never know if the Patriots would have even gotten to this championship game without using deflated balls all season/playoffs long.

    #tainted

  71. I enjoyed watching my Bears beat up the Patriots in Super Bowl XX but it had nothing to do with them being the Patriots.
    I actually wanted them to play Miami but it was a great day anyway.

    Since then the Bears have gone back to the Super Bowl once while New England has been back 7 times and has won 4 of them.
    I do not hate on the Patriots for their success.
    I do not hate Tom Brady for being a great QB or Bill Belicheck for being a great coach.
    I am not jealous of them or the fans in Boston.
    I wish my own team had that kind of success for so long.
    To stock pile draft picks and churn out great teams year after year.
    To find a Hall of Fame QB in the 6th round.
    To have players stay for less money because they know they are going to contend every single year.
    This is exactly what you should want your own teams to be.
    Any fan that does not want their team to be what the Patriots are is either a liar or a fool.

  72. While I believe that their record makes them a dynasty, they are a dynasty with a TON of questions (Spygate, Deflategate) about their morals. None of the other dynasties had these type of questions, and because of that I do not see them in the same light.

  73. Congrats to the Patriots! As a Steeler fan that’s not easy to say. It just amazes me how all the teams now put nation after their team. It started with the Raiders and Steelers in the 70’s and now everyone uses it. Come up with something original. Patriots nation doesn’t even sound right.

  74. The Patriots are not the nfl’s greatest dynasty. That would go to the steelers. If and a big If, the seahawks run the ball at the end of the game. The patriots are sitting here as the goats today. Last time I checked winning one superbowl in the last 10 years don’t make you a dynasty. The 1970’s steelers did it 4 out of 6 years. Thats a dynasty.

  75. The people talking about this being the first win without spying should realize that the Patriots hadn’t played Carolina for years before that SB, and the last time they played Carolina, George Seifert was the coach.

    So, 2 SBs won without sideline tapes (not spying, by the way, spying is out of sight).

  76. It’s not just the Patriots’ sustained excellence, it’s the competition they did it against. Peyton Manning in his prime, the Greatest Show on Turf, the Legion of Boom — the Patriots are where other dynasties go to die.

  77. steeloven89 says:
    Feb 2, 2015 7:45 AM

    get real if Seattle is running the ball from the 1 you are calling Seattle a dynasty. Go to sleep media it’s been a long season for you.
    ———————————————————–
    Does it not occur to you that if Tyree and Manningham don’t make miracle catches the Pats are tied with you on 6 rings?

    We can all play the what if game, son. All that matters is what actually happened in the games, not what could have or should have or might have happened.

    The difference between success and failure is very slim. Ask the Titans about not being able to get 1 yard in a Superbowl.

  78. There is a misconception whether achieving dynasty status post-free agency is considered harder than pre-free agency. I have respect for the Patriots, but how is it any harder to achieve success when teams were left intact before the free agency era? I can only speak for my team (49ers), but during their run the Niners had to contend with other intact, highly talented team of the 80’s starting with the Cowboys, Redskins, Bears, Giants, (throw in some tough Rams and New Orleans teams) and Cowboys again in the 90’s. So really it comes down to winning against highly talented, no dilution of talent because there were less teams back then compared to high turn over, diluted talent across more teams today. Either way it’s hard to win Super Bowls.

  79. Bill Belichick has no integrity. It all started with when Belichick was introduced as head coach of the Jets to the media—the day after his hiring was publicized—he turned it into a surprise-resignation announcement. Before taking the podium, he scrawled a resignation note on a sheet of loose leaf paper that read, in its entirety, “I resign as HC of the NYJ.”

    Then video taping practices and deflated footballs. He is not a genius he is a sham, a fraud, a cheater. What else has he done that he hasn’t been caught doing?

    As for a dynasty I think not. Perennial AFC Champs yes.

  80. Sure the Pat-sies may have won, but just like in the Tuck game, they were HANDED another win. One hand-off to Lynch and all this crowning of the Pat-sies wouldnt be taking place. Terrible play call by the Seahawks, the playcaller should be ashamed of himself!

  81. It’s so hard to keep winning in today’s NFL. The salary cap and free agency mean you simply can’t keep all of your best players together for years at a time, the way those great Steelers and Packers and Cowboys and 49ers teams used to do.
    ———

    Free agency and the salary cap have also brought increased parity into the league, and a wealthy, big-city team can no longer buy a championship.

    That makes small-town Green Bay’s achievement of 5 titles in 7 years with a 3-peat thrown in for good measure all the more impressive.

    G.O.A.T.

  82. But he has two losses and Montana doesn’t. And Brady has thrown more picks in a real deal chump. Montana had Rice for two of them. And Moss wasn’t exactly washed up at the point in his career. And the 49ers never cheated to win a superbowl!

  83. Can you be a great dynasty when it takes the biggest brain fart in the history of the league to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory? A fitting end to a season full of stupidity by Goddell, the players, owners, refs in the playoffs…ugh, just put an asterisk next to the whole season.

  84. This reminds me a lot of when Lance Armstrong won 7 Tour De France titles….

    Yeah he was “amazing” and “great” and “the best of all time”..

    #Patriots#Armstrong#NotRealChampions

  85. The hype ” The Patriots are the NFL’s greatest dynasty”

    Tom Brady 15 years – 6 Championship Games – 3 Rings

    Bart Starr 15 Years – 5 Championship Games – 5 Rings

    Otto Graham 10 Years – 10 Championship Games – 7 Rings

  86. One of the foremost individuals trying to destroy and question their integrity and character jumps back into the crowd and now hails them The Greatest Dynasty in the History of Pro Football.

    No Thanks. We Patriots fans already knew that
    and certainly do not need the likes of YOU
    proclaiming it.

    Master of the Mob Mentality.

  87. You want asterisks? How many of these Steeler lineman are no longer with us because of the result of PEDs? As for the 49ers, didn’t Eddie De get fined and finally sell the team because they spent over the salary limits?

    This is the greatest franchise and dynasty of the salary cap era as they continue to be the most consistent team of the 21st century. Give credit where credit is due. No defense needed for success. Ignore the haters, relish in the moment.

    And this is one of the youngest rosters in the NFL!

  88. Oh good grief, really? The Patriots are a great team, and they should be congratulated on winning their fourth Super Bowl in 14 years. But the greatest dynasty ever?

    Vince Lombardi’s Packers won five NFL Championships in seven years, Pittsburgh won four Super Bowls in six years, and the San Francisco 49ers won five Super Bowls in a 14 year span. Each of those teams has a more legitimate claim to the title of “greatest dynasty ever”.

    The Patriots are easily the best football team over the last 14 years – six Super Bowl appearances, and four victories. However, to claim that they are undoubtedly the greatest dynasty in NFL history is, with all due respect – silly.

  89. I’ll respectfully disagree based on these points:

    • It took the Patriots 14 years to win four Super Bowls (winning three in four years with this one 10 years later). The Steelers won four in six years (repeating twice, the only team ever to do so) while the 49ers won four in nine (repeating once). Also, the Lombardi-era Packers won five total championships in seven years (three of which were won in a row). All of this in a much tougher NFL where there were other super powers to contend with year in and year out with no free agency and no salary cap.

    • This Super Bowl gives the Patriots four overall, which still places them behind the Steelers (six), the Cowboys (five) and the 49ers (five) since the AFL/NFL merger in 1970. And if you include the pre-Super Bowl era, the Packers have the most total titles at 13 followed by the Bears (nine) and the Giants (eight).

  90. Congrats to the Pats and Seahawks (and their fans) for an amazing super bowl. Two elite teams battling it out to the very end, just as it should be with two teams of this caliber.

    And an extra thank you to the Seahawks just for getting there. Wouldn’t have been nearly as entertaining last night to watch the Pats and the Packers. Packers are a decent team but it would have been a lopsided victory for the Pats and not nearly as entertaining a game.

  91. To real football fans outside of the NE area (yes this is directed at you fanboys..) they will not be known as dynasty material because of their cheating ways. They are arrogant, smug and generally non-likeable. Pat yourselves on the back all you want but truth be told, you’re cheaters and the world knows it.

  92. Great game by both teams but lets be honest here – the Hawks gave it away as much as the pats won it! dumbest call ive ever seen.
    as far as best dynasty ever? No. *

  93. Spygate is not really a “spy”- gate…patriot fans should use the words 80,000-gate or 80k-gate.

    ‘The Guy’s Giving Signals Out in Front of 80,000 People’ – Belichick

  94. Hi Haters!!!! Hi! This post is your worst nightmare….HAHAHAHA!!!!

    No rings since spygate. Witch hunts. HAHAHAHAHA!

    #WORLDCHAMPS #embracethehate #youhateuscuzyouain’tus #BESTEVER #GOAT

  95. When they find out they deliberately deflated balls in the AFC championship they should be stripped of the title. End of Story and Dynasty.

  96. Are we just counting championships here?

    Otto Graham and the Browns: league championship games every year between 1946 and 1955, winning seven of them. With Graham at quarterback, the Browns posted a record of 114 wins, 20 losses and four ties, including a 9–3 win–loss record in the playoffs.

    They weren’t caught cheating either.

  97. I found this interesting and you all may have noticed. They actually had two Lombardi trophies for presentation last evening. They actually presented the Patriots with the inflatable one.

  98. Another SB win another *

    Who says cheaters never win? This group has been doing it for a decade and a half.

  99. PS
    The 16-0 season? Didn’t happen. The Ravens beat them but the refs allowed an assistant coach (Rex Ryan) to call a timeout negating a stop by the Ravens on 4th down to win the game. This timeout was not permitted by the rules.

  100. Just what the NFL was hoping for:

    The “Greatest Dynasty” of all time is also the biggest cheaters of all time.

    I still say that DeflateGate is nothing more than a Belichick created smokescreen to mask the real cheating the Patriots did this year…

    The LeGarrette Blount release and signing.

    Oh… forgot all about that already?

    See… it worked didn’t it?

  101. As far as your Mvp question, it’s easy, they would’ve given the MVP to Chris Matthews. It would’ve made for a storybook Cinderella story they could sell anyway.

  102. Time to unleash all the M*A*S*H Col. Potter exclamations: Horse hockey. Cow cookies. Buffalo bagels. Road apples.

    The Patriots 2000s dynasty ended in ’09 when they missed the playoffs. This win does not count with the others.

    Clearly, from the teams you compare the Pats to, the definition of “dynasty” is the number of championships won in a certain period of time. To win 4 in 14 seasons is not nearly has impressive as 4 in 6 seasons.

    Now, if you’re going to count championships plus winning records plus playoff appearances, the Pats still don’t come anywhere near the 70s-80s Cowboys. Actually, by this fuzzy math, you’d have to include the Jimmy/Barry Cowboys in with the Landry Cowboys.

    No matter how you play the math, the 2001-14 Patriots don’t stack up with the all-time greatest teams.

  103. IT’S HARD TO READ PATRIOT HATERS POSTS AND ADMIRE THE PATRIOTS NEW SHINY LOMBARDI TROPHY AT THE SAME TIME.

  104. Not a bad headline for a team that’s been mired in controversy and cheating. Oh, and not bad for a team that has played in what is arguably one of the NFL’s LEAST competitive divisions.

  105. When discussing dynasties, you may also want to factor in QB protection…as in rules to protect the QB. Montana, Bradshaw, etc didn’t have this type of protection from the league. Imagine if Montana didn’t hurt his back and elbow? Man who knows what else he could have done.

    But cheating or not (as what people say nowadays), NE deserves to be mentioned as a dynasty. Best ever? Your call, but in my opinion, that goes to Pittsburg, and I’m a Niners fan.

  106. LOVE THE HATING PACKER FANS SAYING….BUT, BUT, FIRST SUPER BOWL WIN IN 10 YEARS……………GB HAS WON 2 SINCE JANUARY OF 68…NEW ENGLAND HAS WON 4 IN 12 YEARS, AND BEEN TO 6 OF THEM…………..AND PLEASE STOP WITH THE 14 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS. NO ONE CARES ABOUT TITLES WON WHEN MOSES WAS TALKING TO THE BURNING BUSH

  107. Yeah, but wasn’t one ball that was in the Colts possession given to the league with almost 2psi less air?

  108. The Cowboys, Steelers, and 49ers are calling…
    And they weren’t stuck in the middle of Spygate and Deflategate. Oh, and they didn’t play in a pathetic division like the Pats do.

  109. Cowboys taped defensive signals, steelers were all on roids and the 49ers cheated the salary cap twice and cheated in game by turning off communication to the Giants head sets for the first 15 plays of the game. Don’t be fooled, just because espn wasn’t there as the world wide leader of irresponsible journalism, doesn’t mean teams didn’t cheat.

  110. The game delivered the goods in all aspects. A few “wow” moments, a head-scratcher of a playcall, a brawl at the end, the list goes on.

    While a rules violation such as under-inflated footballs is very worthy of a fine and/or draft picks, be real and admit that a talented coach and players mixed with just the right amount of luck won the game. It happens every week in the NFL, the Patriots just happened to be last man standing, so good on them. Keyboard warriors rushing to defend their QB’s honor on the internet are wasting just as much time as the ones shouting “CHEATERS!!! LOLZ”. Probably more, because the defense is usually 6 pages of rebuttal.

    Congrats to the Patriots and their fans. Rumor has it my favorite football team is scheduled to play in Foxboro next year. Ugh.

  111. Hate on people…. Use the same old tired cliché….But when people suggest that Coach Bill was somehow exposed as a coach who only wins by cheating, well, that’s just plain silly. After the NFL put a stop to Belichick’ s prohibited videotaping in Week ONE of the 2007 season, Belichick won 17 consecutive games. The next year Belichick went 11-5 despite losing Tom Brady in Week One. We didn’t make the playoff because of a tie breaker rule (jets had to win and they laid down and lost so we lost tie breaker) He’s made the playoffs every year since then. Since he got caught spying he’s 99-28 in the regular season, 7-6 in the playoffs. His winning percentage of .757 post-Spy gate is better than his .598 winning percentage pre-Spy gate. The idea that Belichick needed to spy on other teams to win is just not borne out by the evidence.
    Now even though the AFC east isn’t a feared division, you have to win the other 8 games on your schedule to make the playoffs and then you have to do it in the playoffs. Everyone dismisses the other two super bowls we lost. In Those games we were leading in the 4th quarter ( with under 3 minutes left in both games) Even though we lost we made the game ..a game…we were not blow out… each of those games went down to the wire…….Coach Belichick has more PLAYOFF WINS than any coach, Tom Brady HAS MORE PLAYOFF WINS than any QB…. Now we have 4 Superbowl titles. That is why we are a dynasty team of the 2000 era.

  112. Smitty – Good piece and my thanks for not belaboring the obvious – their success is one of the biggest reasons why people hate them so much.

    Pats haters – Heh heh. See you in a few months.

  113. The only bad part to all this is now having to listen to Boston fans talk about how much they don’t get any credit or respect, despite the titles of the Patriots, the Celtics, and the Red Sox and even the Bruins.

  114. pats won all theirs in the salary cap era. thats why they are the best. no disrespect to the other dynasties but you had no SALARY CAP.

  115. The Steelers Dynasty in the 70s was essentially 8 years–not as dominant as long as the 49rs (about 15 years) or the Patriots (15 years, and counting). All those 70s Steelers players are Hall of Famers, especially on the defensive side of the ball. Those teams were awesome, but were allowed to stay together. Belichick and Brady have taken any number of scrap-heap players to greatness in the salary cap era. Every team has tried to model their franchise by analyzing what the Patriots have done, and don’t give me any of that sidebar, cheating bull#^%! because that’s just a facade that every national troll hides behind, and they all know it. Belichick beats you with his, yours, or sometimes, nobodies– with evolving casts of characters that don’t go to the Pro Bowl.

    The 2000-era Steelers were underacheivers IMO, even though they won it twice. Outcoached and outplayed too often under Cowher and Tomlin. The talent on that team was better than that.

  116. Hate us cause you ain’t us! I’d be mad to if I rooted for: Buffalo, Miami, Jets, Cleveland, Tennessee, Cincy, Oakland, KC, San Diego, Indy, etc. Get the point!?

  117. Everybody who wants to argue about “4 in 6” and “4 in 9” being better than “4 in 15” might want to think about this…

    Bradshaw played 14 years. His team won 68% of his games. They made the playoffs 9 times (64%) and won 74% of those games. Bradshaw lost in the first round 3 times. He had 4 comebacks, and 4 game winning 4th quarter drives.

    Montana played 15 years. His teams won 71% of his games. They made the playoffs 11 times (73%) and won 70% of those games. Just looking at the 49ers, his teams won 72% of his games in 13 seasons. They made the playoffs 9 times (69%) and won 74% of those games. Montana lost in the first round 3 times. Montana had 5 comebacks, and 5 game winning 4th quarter drives.

    Brady has played 15 years. His teams won 77% of his games. They made the playoffs 12 times (80%) and won 72% of those games. Brady lost in the first round 2 times. Brady has had 6 comebacks and 9 game winning 4th quarter drives.

    Brady has *won* more playoff games than Bradshaw played. Brady has *won* more playoff games than Montana played with the Niners (since we are discussing dynasties here).
    *******

    Yes, the best dynasty because they have played the best over the long haul while achieving as much on the high end. More playoffs, more playoff wins, more trips to the Super Bowl.

  118. “The Patriots play in the weakest division in the NFL. That’s a fact!” Not is you look at the season-ending records.

    New England 12-4 .750% Division 4-2, Conference 9-3, NFC 3-1.
    Buffalo 9-7 .562% Division 4-2, Conference 5-7, NFC 4-0.
    Miami 8-8 .500%, Division 3-3, Conference 6-6, NFC 2-2.
    New York Jets 4-12 2.50% Division 1-5, Conference 4-8, NFC 0-4.

    The AFC East played their inter conference games against the NFC North, the so-called “black and blue division” and finished with a record of 9-7, with four of those losses by the Jets. Only the NFC West and the AFC North had three teams with records of .500 or better as did the AFC East. Buffalo and Miami would have made the playoffs if they had been in the inept NFC South. So, your claims have no basis in fact – as are those of most who try to degrade the accomplishments of this team – the most consistent franchise in the salary cap era of the NFL. And, by the way, they were the youngest team in history to win the Super Bowl! Can’t wait to celebrate at tomorrow’s parade!

  119. Can’t consider them a dynasty when they have been on a Super Bowl famine for so long. Great team but are still quietly viewed with an asterisk in most places outside the New England area.

  120. leatherface2012 says:Feb 2, 2015 10:49 AM

    LOVE THE HATING PACKER FANS SAYING….BUT, BUT, FIRST SUPER BOWL WIN IN 10 YEARS……………GB HAS WON 2 SINCE JANUARY OF 68…NEW ENGLAND HAS WON 4 IN 12 YEARS, AND BEEN TO 6 OF THEM…………..AND PLEASE STOP WITH THE 14 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS. NO ONE CARES ABOUT TITLES WON WHEN MOSES WAS TALKING TO THE BURNING BUSH
    ==================================
    So what you’re saying is, is that your Championship wins won’t count in 40 years? Oh, and Green Bay doesn’t have any *’s behind any of their wins.

  121. If you can’t beat them call them cute little names showing your jealousy & disrespect. That’s all losers can do.

  122. Russell Wilson had a “rough game” while achieving a 110 rating, higher than Brady’s, who threw two INTs.

    Ironically, while having a rough game, Chris Mathews exploded on to the national stage.

    Wilson had a pretty good game. It’s crazy how the whole article would be 100% different had Butler not made an amazing play. It shouldn’t be like that.There should be a better balance.

  123. A coach and a QB do not a dynasty make. The team makes the dynasty. This current Patriot team is not part of the early dynasty team that won 3 rings. 2 different entities.

  124. I said this in another post, but how can a team that was caught CHEATING and punished for CHEATING and is under investigation for CHEATING again be considered the greatest of all time? That makes about as much sense as passing from the one yard line with the best RB in football on your team with the Super Bowl on the line.

  125. If the steelers wouldn’t have lost their complete running game in the AFC championship game against Oakland good chance they would have 5 super bowl wins in 5 years. Amazing.

  126. Anyone who calls “cheaters” is admitting that they don’t understand what happened so they’re gonna whine like a little kid. Is it jealousy, ignorance or stupidity? Probably all three.

  127. Thanx! I needed a really good laugh!
    Cheaters are best of all time!
    Hoo-ha-ha-ha-hee-hee-ha-ha-ha-ha!
    Whew!
    That is a real gut buster right there. Yes sir!

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