Ryan Grigson asked NFL to check Patriots’ footballs

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Colts General Manager Ryan Grigson has declined to comment on Deflategate, but it’s now been confirmed that it was Grigson who asked the NFL to check the footballs that the Patriots’ offense was using during the AFC Championship Game.

NFL Executive V.P. of Football Operations Troy Vincent confirmed in an interview that will air on Showtime tonight that Grigson told the NFL in the second quarter of the AFC Championship Game that the Patriots might be tampering with the footballs.

It’s unclear how word got to Grigson that the Patriots’ footballs might be under-inflated. There have been conflicting stories about whether the Colts thought it was an issue going into the game, or whether it only came up when Colts linebacker D’Qwell Jackson intercepted a Tom Brady pass and noticed that the football felt flat.

According to a Showtime press release, Vincent also told Armen Keteyian on 60 Minutes Sports that he has never seen such a bad year for the NFL, with scandals involving Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson in addition to the Deflategate controversy. The NFL can only hope the Deflategate investigation concludes with something resembling closure, and that 2015 isn’t plagued by the scandals that dominated the 2014 conversation in the NFL.

257 responses to “Ryan Grigson asked NFL to check Patriots’ footballs

  1. Yeah, it’s weird how the most recent reports all say that the only ball that was too light to have just been because of the weather was also the only ball that was in the Colts’ possession before being turned over to the league.

    Weird, huh?

  2. I throught the NFL also would have wanted “closure” on the Adrian Peterson mess too— But in Goodell’s ultimate genius, he’s decided to drag the issue out into the 2015 season.

  3. Maybe you should focus more on getting more talent on your roster, and NOT giving away first round picks for a running back who’s a healthy scratch in the playoffs!!!!

    No respect for the Indianapolis Jokes

  4. Uh huh. Colts had a sting operation going, didn’t pan out. Nothing to see here folks except for bitter losers. Go Patriots.

  5. Can’t wait for the next Pats Colts game. Would not surprise me if the Patriots beat the donkeys by 100 points

  6. Staring a blowout in the face, he was grasping at straws to do anything to save their lost season. It’s a good thing this weak overrated team plays in a division with 4 gimmes (Jags x2, Titans x2) and 2 semi-gimmies (Texans x2) . If they were in NFC East, NFC West, AFC Central – Luck & company would be playoff-less.

  7. Fact.

    Almost all the balls were according to the NFL…a tick….under the 12.5psi.

    One ball…was over 2 psi under. That ball was the one in the Colts possession.

  8. Investigate how he learned there might be a deflated ball. Check his text messages and his phone log. Check videos to see if the one low ball was the same ball Indy handled. If the colts lied , cheated , and/or allowed this fiasco, they should lose draft picks and issue a public apology. Whatever happened was planned

  9. The entire Colts’ scheme of lies and anklebiting has completely unraveled, which is what tends to happen when you go up against the World Champion New England Patriots, Football Dynasty of the 21st Century.

    But keep at it! It’s so funny watching people try to outwit Bill Belichick.

  10. When the only “outlier” football happened to be in Colts possession prior to notification, it is logical to assume the Colts organization tampered with the ball first in order to set up NE.
    Desperate measure from a desperate team tired of NE stomping them up and down the field the past few years.

  11. Fact.

    11 out of 12 balls handled by the Patriots ball boys were underinflated by 2psi. After someone got wind that the Colts figured this out, they fix the issue at half time so they wouldn’t be caught. There is no debate about that and the Patriots should be punished accordingly.

    That being said, they won the game with properly inflated footballs so there is no question as to the legitimacy of that. I would like to see an investigation as to who Kraft called to make Bevell make the dumbest play call ever, though.

  12. Stupid people – The NFL already stated they are going to get w/ Wilson, the manufacturer, and determine the actual proper inflation. The 12.5 – 13.5 PSI has been in the rule book since before 1940. Wilson became the football supplier in 1941. There have been many changes to the footballs since then, but no “rule changes” That should tell you how much of a non-deal this is.

  13. “Sore loser Colts just like the Ravens and Seahawks. Why can’t they lose with some dignity to the better team?”

    Is there such a thing as a patsies fan that wins with dignity?

  14. It must be a pure coincidence that the 6 years prior to the rule going into affected That allows team to provide their own ball, which was lobbied for by Tom Brady, the patriots were right in middle of the road in regards to fumbling.

    After the rule got in place in 2007, the patriots sky rocket to the number one team in regard to not fumbling. That sure is some coincidence, considering the biggest benefit of a deflated football is that it’s easier to grip and hold onto for a running back.

  15. The part that I’m most interested in is how Goodell decides to deliver a consequence to an organization that is obviously covering-up the matter— Not being honest— And blaming others for the situation..

    I tend to think THAT is what the commissioner needs to punish more than the act itself…

    He’s punished Adrian Peterson very extensively — citing how Adrian didn’t show enough remorse— So my hope is that the commissioner is willing to come down in a hard manner toward the likes of Kraft, Brady and Belichick if it’s found that THEY show no remorse for their actions or intent.

  16. Brady had better stats against the vaunted Seahawks defense than he did against the tragic Colts Defense. So it seems the deflation is actually over blown.

  17. Seems pretty simple. He took a bunch of air out the ball and accused the Patriots of cheating.

    The only thing left in #Framegate is deciding how the league office, the Colts, and Bob Kravitz will be punished for their indiscretions.

  18. Grigson you are an embarrasment for the Colts organization. Instead of improving the team, you are crying wolf? You had three years to build a solid team while Luck was on his rookie contract, but you just brought wash up FA and bust drafts. You should be fired ASAP

  19. NFL is going to cover deflate gate up and put it on all the wrong people Goodell can’t let the world know the truth now that Shady Brady and Belicheat have won the SuperBowl. Its all about that $$$$$$$$

  20. Some Grigson facts:

    1. National/area scout for Rams for 2001 SB loss to Patriots.
    2. Western regional scout for Philly for 2004 SB loss to Patriots.
    3. GM for Indy for 2013 and 2014 losses to the Patriots in playoffs and regular season.

    Sour grapes much?

  21. Yeah but I find it very interesting that the LB, D’kwell Jackson said immediatly after in his interview said he didn’t notice anything different with the ball he intercepted…. I also find it interesting that the ONLY ball that was 2 psi under was the one the Colts turned in after having it for a while & the others were only a few ticks under regulation in comparison ….
    I got a feeling things could really go south for the Colts as well as the NFL on this one!!!

  22. Yes! Kind of odd that the reporter that broke the story was from Indy and the only ball that was unusually low was in Indy’s possession. I was starting to think this story was going to fade away but this piece of information may actually blow the story up bigger. Tough break for the Colts and their fans that their GM (and owner) is not only not good at his job but is a dirtbag as well.

  23. Let’s recap:

    In 2002, The Patriots were found to have recorded the Rams Super Bowl walkthrough. NFL Rules dictate no opposing personnel are to be present or in the facility during their practice and obviously no recording, notation, or observation of practice is allowed.

    In 2007, The Patriots were once again involved in scandal when it was revealed that they were videotaping signals of an opposing team. Many other teams came forward claiming they suspected the Patriots of somehow having knowledge of their calls in previous matches.

    In 2011, Tom Brady stated “I like a deflated football” in a recorded interview.

    November 2014, suspicions emerged that the Patriots were using under-inflated footballs.

    Playoffs Round 2 2015, Ravens players noticed they thought the footballs felt flat. Reports emerged about Harbaugh possibly passing along that information to the Colts.

    AFC Championship 2015, 11 of 12 Patriots Footballs were deemed to be well under the required NFL level AFTER supposedly being checked by NFL Officials. Video of the last moments before those footballs were carried to the field show a Patriot employee taking the footballs to a locked room before going to the field. At halftime, the footballs were checked and confirmed to be underinflated.

    Just sayin’.

  24. Staring a blowout in the face, he was grasping at straws to do anything to save their lost season. It’s a good thing this weak overrated team plays in a division with 4 gimmes (Jags x2, Titans x2) and 2 semi-gimmies (Texans x2) . If they were in NFC East, NFC West, AFC Central – Luck & company would be playoff-less
    ——————————————————–
    is not like the Pats have the same advantage, right? Oh my bad, the Pats have 6 gimmes, stay classy cheater

  25. …or whether it only came up when Colts linebacker D’Qwell Jackson intercepted a Tom Brady pass and noticed that the football felt flat.

    D’Qwell Jackson, at the Pro Bowl, specifically refuted the idea that he believed that the football felt flat. He just wanted the equipment guys to save the football as a souvenir. The evidence is starting to grow that the football did not become flat until it got into the hands of the Colts GM.

    Really, a simple web search will find Jackson quoted on this subject.

  26. Smells like a bunch of Horse xxxx, from the Colts. Guess the Colts were tired of getting their AXX kicked year on year out come playoff time. How else he knew the ball was not inflated improperly from where he was watching in the stands.

  27. Fact.

    NFL hired a special investigator into the deflated balls for an investigation that will take several weeks.

    And they’re doing this because “almost all the balls” were “…a tick….under the 12.5psi”? OOOOOKAY

  28. Sharp dude. Grigson is regarded as one of the up and coming young GMs in the league and this shows why. I would be upset if my team’s front office DIDN’T take action if they suspected something like this.

  29. Some people owe John Harbaugh an apology.

    Not that he was in the wrong. Typical New England media to blast anyone for calling out cheaters.

    New England will always carry a stain on those titles.

  30. Stick to doing what you do best Grigson, making horrendous trades. See you on the unemployment line in two years when luck leaves

  31. Jackson reported he felt no difference at all. Then the ball goes to a former Jet employee for 20 minutes and magically gets deflated by 2psi, which is 250% more than the other 1 balls??? Its now more rational to assume an elderly man can deflate 11 balls in 98 seconds than a former Jet employee can deflate 1 ball in 20 minutes???

    the league has now claimed they were planning on testing the balls at halftime, then they claim there was “no sting operation?” Sorry league, its over.

  32. The NFL definitely had a historically bad year, that’s for sure. Like a soap opera. What’s the next scandal to drop? Finding out Peyton Manning is a serial killer?

  33. Usually I spend the off season looking forward to the Pats – Jets games the next year.
    Not this time!
    Damn, I can’t wait to watch the disgusting, wicked things the Pats do to the Colts next season!

    What has been the average score of Pats – Colts games for the last few years…..? Somewhere around 42-10 I’m guessing. I’ll say the Pats hang 60 on the Colts next season. It’s warming the coles of my cold heart already!

  34. Bill Polian – makes one no brainer draft pick, whiffs for years after that, building a roster that his QB has to carry season after season; whines to the league office consistently.

    At least Irsay learned his lesson and went with a completely different type of GM….

  35. 07newenglandcamcourderguy says:
    Feb 3, 2015 10:55 AM
    This pretty much clears the Pats and all you desperate haters can come up with is this * it’s time to open up the bulkhead doors and get some light. It might give you trolls a better outlook on life.

    ______________

    Clears the pats it does not, if anything it makes it seem that this is not new with the AFC title game that the pat were cheating all season or longer. If anything it makes it look more like a habit and not a one time occurrence that the Patsies want us to believe.

  36. You say “…it only came up when Colts linebacker D’Qwell Jackson intercepted a Tom Brady pass and noticed that the football felt flat.”

    D’Qwell Jackson is on record saying that he did not notice anything strange about the football, and that he has no idea why his name has been dragged into “deflategate”. He only gave it to his equipment guy to hold on to as a souvenir of his Tom Brady playoff interception.

    Why someone would want a souvenir reminder of a 45-7 beat down is another story. Maybe next year Jackson can bring the ball back and have Brady autograph it for him… it’s a piece of history now. Lol

  37. Everyone so badly wants to believe that the Patriots let air out of footballs that they really don’t care about the facts. Even if the facts don’t line up with how much they hate (or just as importantly are jealous of) Belichick and Brady, they’ll believe what they want to believe. It doesn’t help that you have a commissioner who likes to be seen as “The Enforcer”. The Enforcer needs to be fired and the Colts need a beat down. They can pipe in all of the recorded noise they want in Indy next season. The Patriots will blow them out.

  38. I feel a little sorry for the Seahawks. Bill Belichick just confirmed that he was slow to getting around to game preparations because of DEFLATEGATE. That he had to rely more on his assistant coaches than usual. On the one hand DEFLATEGATE provided some additional impetus to the Patriots, an advantage. On the other hand, they had a ready-made excuse had they lost that they were distracted (and I believe the journalists may have even beaten them to that statement), so a Hawks win would have come with some measure of doubt. Bad enough the Seahawks got little media attention in the weeks leading up to the Big Game, even as defending World Champions.

  39. You Trolls can say * all you want! It will never happen!
    You were out coached and out played! Scoreboard!
    Greatest Coach and QB in NFL history! End of Story!
    Next Year One for the Thumb! Tommy goes home to win
    number five!

  40. If I were the Pats I wouldn’t even care, since the deflation didn’t realistically impact the Colts game and they already won the SB.

  41. No one said the Colts would have won if there was not an issue with the balls! It’s not ok to break the rules of the game. If they did there should be consequences!

  42. truthfactory says: Feb 3, 2015 10:51 AM

    It must be a pure coincidence that the 6 years prior to the rule going into affected That allows team to provide their own ball, which was lobbied for by Tom Brady, the patriots were right in middle of the road in regards to fumbling.

    After the rule got in place in 2007, the patriots sky rocket to the number one team in regard to not fumbling. That sure is some coincidence, considering the biggest benefit of a deflated football is that it’s easier to grip and hold onto for a running back.

    ——-

    That was evaluated based on lost fumbles.

    In total overall fumbles, they ranked 4th(though best for an outdoor team). Which may have something to do with Belichick making them practice outside no matter what the weather looks like.

    Belichick also makes his top running back priority not fumbling. He’d rather get fewer yards per carry if the ball isn’t turned over. Fumble? Go ahead and warm that bench

  43. As a pats fan I like a boat load of the Colts players and their head coach but the front office is a hot mess

  44. The colts tanked to get Andrew Luck, I wouldnt be shocked if they also let the air out of a ball… bet if they had won, this would be a non-story.

  45. So the the majority of the balls were only a tick under the 12.5 minimum, and the only one that was two pounds under was the ball the Colts intercepted, the same ball that D’Qwell Jackson has come out and said he didn’t notice anything wrong with. The impetus for this “checking” came from Indy’s GM and the story was broken by an Indy reporter. The league should focus a good part of the investigation on how the Colts conducted themselves after getting the ball on the sideline and where it went and with who. This is starting to fall apart and the Colts are starting to edge into the picture as a potential suspect.

    Imagine the hammer that Goodell brings down on them if it turns out they deflated that football to frame the Patriots? Franchise death penalty

  46. So a guy who was associated with 01 rams 04 eagles. A team who supposedly spoke to harbaugh via pagano before the afc game. The nfl officiaL’s didn’t immediately take the ball upon possession one reporter wrote they had the ball almost 45mts before turning over. It seems a bit off to me just saying…

  47. SOOOOO blame the GM of the Colts—-Pats CHeat—–have been turned in by many people, Blame the Pats—–if they are so good why CHEAT? not that good? Fans of this group are duped, Cheat if it that important!!!!

  48. truthfactory: Lobbied for by Tom Brady and *Peyton Manning.*

    Didn’t like that other half of the truth, factory?

  49. purpleguy says:
    Feb 3, 2015 11:06 AM
    If I were the Pats I wouldn’t even care, since the deflation didn’t realistically impact the Colts game and they already won the SB.
    ========================================
    When someone calls your integrity into question, you care. Tom Brady doesn’t care if other players or former players say he’s not as good as Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, or Steve Young. He does care when people call him out as a liar.

  50. “Sharp dude. Grigson is regarded as one of the up and coming young GMs in the league and this shows why.”

    He chose to work for Jim Irsay. How smart can he be?

  51. xli2006 says:

    Let’s recap:

    In 2002, The Patriots were found to have recorded the Rams Super Bowl walkthrough. NFL Rules dictate no opposing personnel are to be present or in the facility during their practice and obviously no recording, notation, or observation of practice is allowed.

    In 2007, The Patriots were once again involved in scandal when it was revealed that they were videotaping signals of an opposing team. Many other teams came forward claiming they suspected the Patriots of somehow having knowledge of their calls in previous matches.

    In 2011, Tom Brady stated “I like a deflated football” in a recorded interview.

    November 2014, suspicions emerged that the Patriots were using under-inflated footballs.

    Playoffs Round 2 2015, Ravens players noticed they thought the footballs felt flat. Reports emerged about Harbaugh possibly passing along that information to the Colts.

    AFC Championship 2015, 11 of 12 Patriots Footballs were deemed to be well under the required NFL level AFTER supposedly being checked by NFL Officials. Video of the last moments before those footballs were carried to the field show a Patriot employee taking the footballs to a locked room before going to the field. At halftime, the footballs were checked and confirmed to be underinflated.

    Just sayin’.
    _____________________________

    Ok, Let’s recap

    1. The story of the PATS taping the RAMs walkthrough was false, restracted and an apology issued

    2. You do understand that the PATS were penalized for the positioning of the camera – not for vidiotaping which is perfectly legal.

    3. If you are keeping up to date – it appears that the olny bal l that was questionable was the one in the Colt’s possession.

    Just sayin’.

  52. “Fact.

    11 out of 12 balls handled by the Patriots ball boys were underinflated by 2psi. After someone got wind that the Colts figured this out, they fix the issue at half time so they wouldn’t be caught. There is no debate about that and the Patriots should be punished accordingly.”

    Ummmm, maybe you haven’t seen the reports the last couple days that Mort was wrong, and that all the balls were just “a tick or two” under the 12.5 psi level, i.e. exactly what would have happened with the change in air pressure due to temp/weather.

    The only ball that was 2 psi under was the one the Colts kept on their sideline for 20 minutes before turning it in. The one that the player that intercepted it said “felt fine”. Its clear the Colts tampered with the ball before turning it in. The Colts are the cheaters here, not the Pats.

  53. To be real clear about all these scandals: they were all caused by the incompetent management of the NFL and Roger Goodell in particular.
    Had they given Rice and Peterson a proper punishment, there would have been upset fans, but no scandals.
    Notice that there was no “scandal” around Greg Hardy from the Panthers. He was appropriately suspended and have not heard anything else about it.
    On deflategate, the “scandal” has been fed by selective leaks that, as they have continued to come out, have ended up contradicting each other:
    – balls were 2psi under
    – ball they were under by couple of ticks under
    – 11 of 12 balls were well under pressure
    – it was just one ball
    – refs gaged the balls before game
    – ref did not gage the balls before game
    – it was Harbaugh that contacted the league
    – it was D’Qwell Jackson that notice the low pressure.
    – it was a sting operation
    – blah blah blah

    If the NFL had any kind of professional standards and were truly looking after protecting the integrity of the game, they would have suspended Rice and Peterson right away for 8 or more games, with reinstatement conditional on the outcome of the criminal investigations.
    And on deflategate, they would have done their investigation quietly and threatening anyone who leaked information with getting fired Instead they allowed the reputation and integrity of one of the Super Bowl participants to get soiled two weeks before the big event.

    I got to think that Goodell’s days are numbered. He has lost Kraft. The Vikings and Ravens cannot be happy with how the league handled Rice and Petersen. The Saints are still pissed off about the punishment they got over the head-hunting. Jerry Jones and Snyder probably still unhappy about getting slapped over their cap gamesmanship.
    The NFL is rolling in the dough, but it ain’t because of Goodell’s pretty face. He has made plenty of enemies. He will be gone.

  54. I am a Patriots fan and to think that the Colts let air out of the ball and THEN reported it to the NFL league office is a joke and would not happen. it would also be impossible to cover up and I can’t imagine the penalty when they were caught.

    It has been reported that the other 11 footballs were for the most part a tick below 12.5 PSI and obviously a non issue when this is finished.

    As far as the other ball, Brady threw a badly under thrown ball with no pass rush to bother him. I doubt that the ball had anything to do with it BUT it was the only deflated ball. it would not surprise me if the ball was bad or lost air when the gauge was removed or it had less air when inspected by the refs or a number of other stupid reasons.

    What would be the point in tampering with ONLY ONE ball!!! The balls get pulled out of a bag when needed, and it was raining so they get swapped out all the time to dry and players keep them after big plays.

    THIS whole thing is a joke. BTW when is the apology coming?

  55. NFL has zero Integrity because:
    #1: Unsubstantiated recording of PSI by the NFL Officiating crew, not only in this game but in all other previous games, as the NFL does not have a policy or procedure for proper scientific standards of recording.
    #2: Inaccurate/false leaking of information
    #3: NFL Rules seek to prevent unfair advantage in a game – Rule 17 was not broken/violated in the AFC championship since it was PROVEN beyond a shadow of a doubt that ALL the footballs on both teams had zero impact on the outcome of the game
    #4: 5th Grade Science as well as college science dictates loss of air pressure as temperature drops. DUH – We all know this with common everyday unbiased scientific observation of our tires every winter losing air pressure – DUH
    #5: Defamation of Charater is a SERIOUS CRIME – wake up Haters and smell the stink of your own biased self righteous bigotry that blinds you to the FACTS.
    #6: UNFAIR ADVANTAGE was given to the Seahawks via two weeks of false reporting by the news media, NFL and general public believing the reported errors and misinformation.

  56. Based on these comments, it seems a lot of folks have confirmed facts that no one else has. I don’t know why they just don’t let you geniuses write the articles. Based on your astute information, it appears that the Pats have already been proven as cheaters, the Pats have also been simultaneously cleared of any wrongdoing, Ryan Grigson possibly committed a criminal act in framing someone, and apparently the only potential place where the balls could have been deflated was during a 98 second pee break by an eldery dude. Last week, I think there were expert scientist on here that apparently have the PSI measurements that the league never recorded along with the background to conclude all of this was caused by weather.

    Most likely, they sweep this under the rug in an attempt to save Roger’s job. It could be the Pats that are caught, the referees, the Colts or whoever and most likely it’ll be minimized due to this year of screw-ups by the league office.

    On the up side, my experience in life has generally resulted in meeting a lower proportion of lunatics than found commenting on these articles. You guys are all still winners to me though. Confidence over substance!

  57. so here’s the latest run down, only one ball was of significant difference that could even imply tampering. its the same ball that brady had his worse throw in the game with, maybe because it was so underinflated, and its the only ball of the bunch that happened to be passed to 5 different colts staff before being handed over to the nfl.

    the conspiracy theory everyone Is looking for is why and how the colts were allowed to keep that ball and pass it around to all their staff before giving it to the refs. if there was any suspicion of tampering it should be against the colts.

    why you all think about that i gotta read more stories about the superbowl champions and the greatest qb and greatest coach to ever play the game

  58. Geniusry says:
    Feb 3, 2015 10:49 AM

    Fact.

    11 out of 12 balls handled by the Patriots ball boys were underinflated by 2psi.
    __________________________________

    Actually that isn’t a fact. We don’t know what the halftime measurements were because nothing official has been released. Mortenson said his source told him 2 psi under, but we have since heard other sources stating that Mort’s information was not accurate.

  59. anotherpatsfan says:
    Feb 3, 2015 11:19 AM

    2. You do understand that the PATS were penalized for the positioning of the camera – not for vidiotaping which is perfectly legal.

    ———————–

    Spygate was the single most ridiculous thing to have happened. Did they get punished for having cameras in the wrong location? Yes.

    BUT… EVERY TEAM can put a camera elsewhere, just not the sideline and film the exact same thing. And they do.

    EVERY TEAM can send a scout to their next opponent’s game. They aren’t there eating hot dogs and having a dandy old time. They are working… writing down plays, defensive and offensive signals, situational football, and VIDEOTAPING!!

    EVERY TEAM gets an official NFL GAME TAPE. This tape is allows seeing the entire field AND sidelines. Guess what. you can see everything INCLUDING defensive and offensive signals!!

    The information is there for all teams and ALL teams use it.

    Spygate was a ridiculous camera positioning thing and had NOTHING to do with SPYING, or cheating.

    Dumb, dumb, dumb.

    The NFL allows all of this for competitiveness. To allow a team to come up with plays and go into a game cold without knowing their opponent, the game comes off very sloppy and no one would watch.

  60. Hahaha I love the all the people putting a “*” next to the New England Patriots name. The only place that a “*” will ever exist is in the haters head. You look in the actual record books and all you will see from 2015 and before are 4 Super Bowl victories by the New England Patriots and Tom Brady with 3 Super Bowl MVPs. Just know you team will never be as great as the Patriots and you quarterback will never be as good as Tom Brady. And that the “*” is all in your head.

  61. The moment the football with the lowest air pressure was found to be in possession of the colts, just nailed Goodell & the colts as CHEATERS.
    The case against the Patriots would be thrown out of court by any unbiased Judge & Jury.
    Kraft should sue the NFL & Colts for Defamation/Slander and the NE Patriots should be awarded the colts first round pick.

  62. I am really gonna enjoy the beatdown the Pats put on the Colts next year at their stadium….The Pats will do that even having to use a silent count due to the pumped in croud noise…poke the bull you get the horn…. Pats 50-17

  63. bostoncommon says: Feb 3, 2015 11:16 AM

    truthfactory: Lobbied for by Tom Brady and *Peyton Manning.*

    Didn’t like that other half of the truth, factory?
    ————————————————–
    He conveniently left “Poutin Manning” out of it, like he usually does.

    Belichick is gameplanning for the Colts…as we speak, like right now.

  64. Does any one else find it strange that the only ball that has been confirmed as under deflated was in the colts possession?

    Does anyone else find it strange that the only place testing the balls was Robert Kraft’s alma mater who he just donated 5 million dollars to last year?

    Does anyone else find it strange that since 2007 the Patriots have been the greatest team as far as fumbling is concerned, in the history of the NFL, while running more plays than anyone else?

    Does anyone else find it strange that there were 11 originally deflated balls after the game and now the NFL is saying there’s only 1 after Kraft’s press conference?

    Does anyone else find it strange that the Patriots hosted the commissioner not once but twice during the playoffs? Whereas no other team saw him in their stadium once?

    Does anyone else find it strange that at no point did Brady or Belichick come out and say emphatically that there was no wrongdoing whatsoever?

    Does anyone else find it strange that the Colts footballs were fully inflated after the game and the only excuse Belichick and the Pats gave was based on atmosphere?

    Does anyone else find it strange that for some reason Patriot fans feel the need to have their team constantly exonerated from cheating whereas no other team has even been accused of it?

    Yeah me neither.

  65. So it was the Colts… Belichick will make sure LeGarrette Blount is aware of that the next time the Pats play the Colts.

  66. Whatever the spread is next year for the Patriots-Colts game, take the Patriots and the over. I have a feeling Grigson will be bleeding from the backside next season.

  67. Everyone knows Brady cheated. Don’t blame the messenger. I don’t blame Brady. The balls are hard to grip in cold and rainy weather. Every QB should be able to let a liitle air out if it helps. It’s like saying Barry Bonds was great anyway. That’s true. Both of these cheaters were great anyway, otherwise nobody would be taking about it. People always like to go after the guys at the top. Bonds was great, but now you can’t compare him to Willie Mays because he cheated. Brady was great, but now you can’t compare him to Montana. I don’t know if Mays or Montana ever cheated, but they never got caught.

  68. I can assure you that Patriots fans don’t care about this, it’s just funny that the handful of people trying to still push it can’t even get their stories straight. For example, the Patriots ball attendant has been described as “elderly” — meaning it’s almost impossible he deflated 12 game balls just over a minute, but very possible he just needs to go to the bathroom a lot.

    Oh, and Aaron Rodgers admitted to overinflating footballs and trying to sneak them past the refs, and was awarded the league MVP this season anyway. He also beat the Patriots during a game in which the announcers discussed his ball tampering, and nobody investigated.

  69. The applicable pressure range is 12.5 to 13.5 psi. Since Brady likes low pressure balls, Patriots will likely inflate the balls to lower limit of 12.5 or just over it. The balls were inspected and got passed. Now due to the low temperature condition outside the pressure decreased by a bit. (The reduction in ball pressure at low temperature has now been proven by so many deflategate experiements). So even if the pressure drops to 12.2 or 12.1 or 11.9 psi by halftime due to low temperature condition, it’s like OHHHHHHHHH Patriots intentionally underinflated the balls. May be Luck likes high pressure balls, may be Colts balls were inflated to 13.3 or 13.5 psi, so by half time even if their ball pressure drops to 13.1 or 12.9, they are still under the limit but their pressure were reduced too. It’s not like only the Patriots ball pressure was reduced by halftime. NFL has to look into all these details.

    The latest news says that the only ball that was underinflated by 2 psi is the one intercepted by Colts which was then handed to Colts personnel and later handed to the referees. NFL should now investigate if Colts tampered the ball they intercepted Rest of balls were just few ticks down.

  70. They haven’t been convicted of anything and now there’s more indication this was a set up by the Colts. When you get your balls flattened by a team man up and take it instead of inventing bogus claims of cheating, you just look like a bunch of jealous dopes.

  71. xli2006 says:
    Feb 3, 2015 10:54 AM
    Let’s recap:

    You watch a lot of Fox News and listen to Sean Vannity a lot, don’t you? Almost every one of your “facts” have been categorically refuted some time ago with the exception of the amount of balls under-inflated (1) and by how much (just a tick) which occurred in the last 48 hours.

  72. Let’s recap:

    In 2002, The Patriots were found to have recorded the Rams Super Bowl walkthrough. NFL Rules dictate no opposing personnel are to be present or in the facility during their practice and obviously no recording, notation, or observation of practice is allowed.

    In 2007, The Patriots were once again involved in scandal when it was revealed that they were videotaping signals of an opposing team. Many other teams came forward claiming they suspected the Patriots of somehow having knowledge of their calls in previous matches.

    In 2011, Tom Brady stated “I like a deflated football” in a recorded interview.

    November 2014, suspicions emerged that the Patriots were using under-inflated footballs.

    Playoffs Round 2 2015, Ravens players noticed they thought the footballs felt flat. Reports emerged about Harbaugh possibly passing along that information to the Colts.

    AFC Championship 2015, 11 of 12 Patriots Footballs were deemed to be well under the required NFL level AFTER supposedly being checked by NFL Officials. Video of the last moments before those footballs were carried to the field show a Patriot employee taking the footballs to a locked room before going to the field. At halftime, the footballs were checked and confirmed to be underinflated.
    ———————————————————-

    ist been proven that the pats never recorded a walkthrough or practice, the person linked to that story has confirmed this, and the reporter who ran with it as fact lost his job.

    second as per the rule, it wasn’t illegal to videotape signals, it was illegal to videotape them from certain areas, and many nfl teams were doing it, in fact the jets were told not to do it by patriots security, as well tony dungy was on the tapes waving to the camera man as he knew about it and was doing it also

    harbaugh flat out denied ever telling the colts about deflated balls.

    there is one thing we both agree on, the pats are definitely cheaters if you would like to use proven lies to make your case. if you want to use proven facts then you have a story of envy for the greatest team in the history of the sport

  73. So let me see if I got this right a guy that wasn’t even on the field asked for the check on the footballs and now it’s being reported that the only football underinflated by 2 psi was the one the Colts picked off. The one Dqwell Jackson said he didn’t notice anything was wrong with but ESPN said he noticed it? Plus somehow the NFL can get a video of an elderly man in the bathroom for 90 seconds yet can’t get a video of Ray Rice’s wife getting beaten in an elevator when TMZ got the video in no time at all? The stupidity of some people and the NFL astounds me.

  74. Geniusry says:
    Feb 3, 2015 10:49 AM
    Fact.

    11 out of 12 balls handled by the Patriots ball boys were underinflated by 2psi. After someone got wind that the Colts figured this out, they fix the issue at half time so they wouldn’t be caught. There is no debate about that and the Patriots should be punished accordingly.

    You must of missed the report that came out on Sunday saying only 1 ball was 2psi under, the same ball which was in possesion of the Colts, and the others were only a “tick”under.

  75. Ok,,,write this down,,,,,Sometime between Sept and Dec 2015 NE, and Tom Brady will travel to INDY.
    They will put a smackdown on the colts that will stand for a longggggg time in the NFL,,,,Brady will run up the score until PAGANO/GRIGSON are in tears….something like 73-3,

    ANYBODY wanna dispute me?

  76. “At practice, the scout team ran that same play and I got beat on it. [Coach] Bill [Belichick] told me, ‘You’ve got to be on that.’ At that time [of the play], memorization came through,” he said. “I just jumped the route. I just made a play. Just do your job — do it the best way you can. I just did my job.”

  77. Here’s a nice piece for those that feel the Patriots are being picked on. It’s just unfortunate the guy happened to come from that team which is the epitomy of integrity as well all know so well.

    “On November 27, 2010, the NFL fined the Denver Broncos and their head coach Josh McDaniels, who served as an assistant coach under Belichick from 2001–2008, $50,000 each after Broncos video director Steve Scarnecchia videotaped the San Francisco 49ers’ walkthrough practice prior to the October 30, 2010 NFL International Series game in Wembley Stadium, London.[71] Scarnecchia, the son of longtime Patriots offensive line coach Dante Scarnecchia, was a video assistant for the Patriots in 2001–2004, before joining the Jets’ video department for the 2006–2007 seasons.[71] As a result of the NFL’s findings, Scarnecchia was fired by the Broncos, and is subject to a hearing regarding a possible ban from the NFL for twice being involved in an integrity-of-game policy violation.[71]”

  78. Goodell has said there will be a low standard of proof to determine what happened.

    Does this also apply to accusing the Colts of tampering with a football if, in fact, the only Patriot’s football seriously under-inflated was the one in possession of the Colts?

  79. So Grigson’s team was trailing 17-7 at the half and the Pats were supposedly using underinflated balls to give them an unfair “advantage.” Refs check the balls, inflate the soft ones to their correct weight and the Pats respond by scoring 21 points in the 3rd Quarter and another 7 in the 4th.

    Yeah, that worked out well…

  80. To all you haters who subscribe to the *…. All I have to say to you is open your eyes and ears… all the deflate gate leaks of 3 weeks ago now seem to be largely nothing more than a contradiction of each other. Now we hear “Only a few ticks off the pressure gage not pounds”, “only 2 out of 12 were slightly lighter”, “only one was 1.5 psi low”, “tapes show nothing but an elderly man using the bathroom” , Patriots gave up all surveillance films and allowed full access to every employee, they stood steadfast and state “no on tampered with the balls deliberately”.
    So slow down and don’t be all sucked in on bits of misinformation…. The media has no journalist valves anymore; no one requires second source verification, every time it is leak by someone with knowledge or someone associated with the investigation. Now doesn’t that piss you off?? If someone in the know who is involved in an investigation is leaking on purpose right or wrong information how creditable is this investigation?
    We won with proper inflated balls. We put more passing yards on the #1 defense, completed more passes, threw for 4 TD’s and came back to win with more points on the number #1 defense…. Enough with deflate gate…..

  81. “No one said the Colts would have won if there was not an issue with the balls! It’s not ok to break the rules of the game. If they did there should be consequences!”

    ——————————

    And yet after all this time there’s still no evidence.

  82. tonyarnold2 says: New England Patriots*

    ———————————————

    * Haven’t won a Super Bowl since…. Sunday

    * Can see the future and from 2001-2004 knowingly violated a rule that would not be created until 2006

    * Certain Rams players and jealous fans don’t know what the term “retracted” means in regard to the false media report about taping walk throughs

  83. Let’s recap:

    In 2002, The Patriots were found to have recorded the Rams Super Bowl walkthrough. NFL Rules dictate no opposing personnel are to be present or in the facility during their practice and obviously no recording, notation, or observation of practice is allowed.

    Not true. The NFL did not investigate because the story was recanted and the writer issued an apology. Check your facts.

    In 2007, The Patriots were once again involved in scandal when it was revealed that they were videotaping signals of an opposing team. Many other teams came forward claiming they suspected the Patriots of somehow having knowledge of their calls in previous matches.

    To be factual, video taping is allowed from the press box, every team does it. They were caught video taping from the sidelines. That is what Spygate is and that is what they were punished for. Again learn the facts.

    In 2011, Tom Brady stated “I like a deflated football” in a recorded interview.

    November 2014, suspicions emerged that the Patriots were using under-inflated footballs.

    Playoffs Round 2 2015, Ravens players noticed they thought the footballs felt flat. Reports emerged about Harbaugh possibly passing along that information to the Colts.

    Harbaugh has denied this! Learn the facts.

    AFC Championship 2015, 11 of 12 Patriots Footballs were deemed to be well under the required NFL level AFTER supposedly being checked by NFL Officials. Video of the last moments before those footballs were carried to the field show a Patriot employee taking the footballs to a locked room before going to the field. At halftime, the footballs were checked and confirmed to be underinflated.

    we now know, from leaks. The ball boy went to the bathroom “Locked door?”, was in there for 90 seconds. Only 1 ball was 2psi down the others were around 1 or less. Oh yea we also don’t know that the footballs were 12.5 at the beginning of the game because the refs never checked them. — learn the facts

  84. Question: Has even ONE former Patriot player or coach, many of whom were either fired or are now retired or with other organizations EVER stated that they witnessed ANY cheating WHATSOEVER by the Patriots?

    Answer: No

    Question: Do any of these players have anything to lose by coming forward now?

    Answer: No – in fact they have everything to GAIN

    Conclusion: The asterisk represents the jealousy players and fans have for the Patriots accomplishments

  85. krispyone says: Feb 3, 2015 11:52 AM

    Geniusry says:
    Feb 3, 2015 10:49 AM
    Fact.

    11 out of 12 balls handled by the Patriots ball boys were underinflated by 2psi. After someone got wind that the Colts figured this out, they fix the issue at half time so they wouldn’t be caught. There is no debate about that and the Patriots should be punished accordingly.

    You must of missed the report that came out on Sunday saying only 1 ball was 2psi under, the same ball which was in possesion of the Colts, and the others were only a “tick”under.

    ——-

    That report has already been disputed. But, like all the other “reports”, it’s from an unnamed source. At this point no one knows how many (if any) were underinflated.

  86. The entire second half was played with the officials being aware and monitoring the inflation levels for the footballs. Tom Brady went nine for nine in the second half and the Patriots won; The next step is to find another reason why the Patriots won everything.

  87. I wonder if Grigson feels stupid now that he cried about the ball now? I mean before he ratted the score was 17-7. After the he ratted the Pats ran 28-0 on the Colts. He was better off letting them play with the deflated ball. Also why is the ball the Colts gave the NFL the only one so deflated(2 lbs) where the other 10 were “just a tick” under and the one right on? I think Pagano and Grigson deflated the ball themselves before giving it to the league. Plus according to the NFL, the refs are professionals and wouldn’t they have noticed a ball that deflated before the game and during it? I mean all the experts on CNN and ESPN said you can feel a difference. How come the refs didn’t? Heck even D’Qwell has admitted he didn’t notice the ball being different.Because the Colts let more air out of the ball D’Qwell caught before giving it to the league. So once Ted Wells investigation finds that, the Colts should be fined and lose a draft pick for trying to get the Pats in trouble.

  88. If I were the colts front office I would be more interested in learning who took the air of the your team

    Your team was poor at best and made a bad showing at the AFC Championship game

    There was a lot more then footballs deflated that day

  89. Thank you, Mr. Grigson, for taking a stand for the integrity of the game. I wish someone had done that before the Ravens-Patriots game so that it would have been played a level playing field. We all know the Ravens would have won that game if Brady had to use properly inflated balls.

  90. Geniusry says:
    Feb 3, 2015 10:49 AM
    Fact.

    11 out of 12 balls handled by the Patriots ball boys were underinflated by 2psi. After someone got wind that the Colts figured this out, they fix the issue at half time so they wouldn’t be caught. There is no debate about that and the Patriots should be punished accordingly.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    Dont let the real facts get in the way of your hatred.

  91. Hey, I heard from an unconfirmed source that the balls were deflated by the same ref who checked them pre-game because Roger Goodell hit on his wife the weekend before the game and that…. get this… Bobert Kraft put ol’ Rog up to it!

    This is really just a big joke between rich folks that have become bored managing their estates. AND THAT’S A FACT. AND YOU CAN COME SEE ME IF YOU DISPUTE MY SOURCE. AND I”LL DEFLATE YOUR HEAD BRO. GOAT? BILLY VOLEK. THAT’S NOT EVEN A QUESTION REAL LIFE PEOPLE ASK.

  92. Everyone thought it was the Ball boy in the Bathroom with the Needle. Turns out, it was the Butler in the Endzone with the Pick.

    For those of you the need a CLUE!

    I freakin love it!

  93. From now on I am thumbing down any comments that call the Patriots cheaters or that their titles asterisked or stained.

    Their not my team, but it’s time to fight back against hairsplitting jealous internet wussiness.

    I hope the Lions cream the Pats next time they play but only an idiot would disrespect what NE has done.

  94. “One of the worst things about this season is that the Patriots* are now 4-time super bowl champions”

    … and they were caught cheating on all 4 of them #smh!!!

  95. j0esixpack says: Feb 3, 2015 12:12 PM

    Question: Has even ONE former Patriot player or coach, many of whom were either fired or are now retired or with other organizations EVER stated that they witnessed ANY cheating WHATSOEVER by the Patriots?

    Answer: No

    Question: Do any of these players have anything to lose by coming forward now?

    Answer: No – in fact they have everything to GAIN

    Conclusion: The asterisk represents the jealousy players and fans have for the Patriots accomplishments
    ————————–
    I think it really just comes down to this, joesixpack, other teams/owners/coaches are jealous that they have not been able to have the 14 years of success that the Patriots have in this salary cap era. They haven’t figured out how to get low draft or free agent cap friendly players to perform and succeed the way Mr. Kraft and BB have. The salary cap was designed to end the dynasties of the 70s 80s and 90s. However, the Patriots, through excellent scouting, drafting and contract negotiations have managed to put together their dynasty in an age where it shouldn’t be possible because of player greed, etc. So yes, it is, as you said, just jealousy.

  96. The reason Patriots haters cannot believe this “atmospheric pressure” excuse, is that if atmospheric pressure really existed, their own skulls would collapse from the vacuum inside.

  97. xli2006 says:

    Let’s recap: In 2002, The Patriots were found to have recorded the Rams Super Bowl walkthrough.

    —————————————-

    Um – no they weren’t, but thanks for proving my point.

    The publication that reported that admitted they got the story completely wrong.

    The story was RETRACTED with a front page apology. Get up to speed on your facts.

    Now can we finally investigate the COLTS for REAL cheating that TRULY impacts the INTEGRITY OF THE GAME – purposefully LOSING GAMES to gain the FIRST ROUND PICK?

  98. I thought the nfl was going to keep their mouths shut until investigation was done?I guess Blandino, Vincent,Grigson didn’t get the memo?

  99. hakunamangata:
    Does anyone else find it strange that for some reason Patriot fans feel the need to have their team constantly exonerated from cheating whereas no other team has even been accused of it?
    _____________________

    You think no other team has been accused of cheating? The Colts were the #1 fined team this year, mostly for players using banned substances. They were fined almost $4 million. That’s cheating. They were also accused of piping in crowd noise into their stadium.

    The Broncos were fined and penalized for violating the salary cap in 2001 (and further investigation found they did it from 1996-1998 too, their SB years). That’s cheating.

    Tampa Bay’s QB paid to have the balls tampered with to his liking for the Super Bowl they won. That’s cheating.

    Ray Lewis was accusing of using deer antler spray, which contains a banned substance, during the year the Ravens won the Super Bowl. That’s cheating.

    Lots of teams have been accused of cheating. You just aren’t paying attention.

  100. Goodell has lost all credibility this past year. What a joke.

    If it’s true that the ball the Colts turned over to the league was significantly underinflated then he has no choice but to punish them severely. It’s one thing to cheat, but it’s a whole other ballgame if it can shown the Colts tried to frame another franchise for cheating.

  101. This is not a scandal dude! Scandals are like #RiceGate and #PetersonGate. Next you will call Lynch not talking a scandal too? #LynchGate??

  102. The Colts … The organization… are a bunch cry babies. Honest to god!!

    This thing with the Patriots goes back years, I.E. 2004, when Bill Polian bitched that the Patriots defensive backs weren’t being called for penalties when they lost to the Pats in a playoff game… He took it took the league and had the rules changed…

    Same Crap different smell… I really am starting not to like these guys!!!

  103. That it was the Colts who turned the ball over isn’t the issue. If they had questions, they were right to ask the league to look into it. The problem comes in when either Grigson or Irsay tipped off Bob Kravitz to the story. He may have attributed league sources, but I doubt there’s any question that he got the first information from the Colts. That’s what kick-started the whole mess and that’s what’s going to light the fire under the Patriots next year when they destroy the Colts yet again.

  104. So the ONE defective ball fluttered like a duck and was intercepted.
    Thanks, Grigson, for pointing that out.
    Brady was lights out after it was remedied.
    Either that or his own ball boy pulled a fast one.
    Or the 1 official in charge of approving balls pregame screwed up.
    We already know the PSIs were not recorded.

  105. The one Dqwell Jackson said he didn’t notice anything was wrong with but ESPN said he noticed it?

    I know, let’s ask all the tv analysts who coincidentally have lost to Brady in the playoffs at some point in their careers.

  106. This is the guy whose terrible personnel choices are responsible for Andrew Luck having no teammates to beat the Patriots. He had a strong interest in diverting attention from his own failures. He succeeded.

  107. Here’s the one thing no one has discussed during this whole mess…

    How do we really know under inflated footballs are a competitive advantage rather than a competitive disadvantage? That’s been the narrative since the beginning, but the facts don’t support it.

    AFC Championship 1st half. Brady leads the Pats to 17 points and throws an interception with under inflated balls.

    AFC Championship 2nd half. Brady leads the Pats to 28 points without an interception using properly inflated balls.

    The irrefutable evidence suggests that under inflated footballs were a competitive disadvantage, at least for Tom Brady, and the Colts did the Patriots a favor by pointing it out to the officials so it could be corrected. The results of Brady’s play during the Superbowl further back up this conclusion.

  108. Pats fans last week, “Wait until the facts come out instead of these leaks.”

    Pats fans now, “This leak seems to free us from any wrongdoing, let’s claim everyone else is hatin.”

  109. Andrew Luck becomes an unrestricted free agent in 2016…he has one more season under contract with the Colts….

    ….he seems like an upstanding, smart, sincere guy….

    ….anyone else think he may decide the Colts organization isn’t the right fit for him?

    How about this for innovative Offense:

    Patriots sign Luck and carry 3 QBS: Brady, Luck and Garropolo…and name them ALL Starters. How does a team prepare to defend against that 3 headed Offensive monster each week, not knowing which QB will start?

    The Dynasty – EXTENDED!!

  110. The last time the Pats were accused and punished for cheating, they went on a 18-1 game tear, and set NFL passing and offensive records with the best regular season record only.

    Only a miracle by the Gmen, and some fake injuries and uncalled holding penalties saved the rest of the league from a perfect season.

    I hope the haters continue to accuse the Pats of being illegitimate, then next year, they will come back even angrier and close the deal with a perfect 19-0 season, crushing all the whiners and haters forever.

    Please, keep talking, it will help. Seriously.

  111. Why is D’Quell Jackson still being mentioned in connection with this story? He’s made clear that he did not complain about the footballs. This nonsense went way above the players involved in that game.

  112. Patriot fans are in such denial.
    They can’t see what the rest of us see.
    The entire culture of the New England Patriots is, and always has been to push the rules to the breaking point at every opportunity.
    Seems they’re not comfortable just winning on the merits of their athletes, so they need help.

    Illegally filming practices, turning in false injury reports every week, hiding concussions, tampering with players still playing for other clubs (Blount), messing with the equipment to gain an advantage, pushing the rules and running illegal plays to the point where you even take the refs out of the game.
    It’s a sickness with these people and Belichick has convinced the entire team to go along with it.
    He’s like the Charlie Manson of Football…

    Their legacy will always be, as cheaters.
    No class, no honor, no integrity, no remorse.
    That’s the Patriot Way

  113. Foozie:
    Illegally filming practices, turning in false injury reports every week, hiding concussions, tampering with players still playing for other clubs (Blount), messing with the equipment to gain an advantage, pushing the rules and running illegal plays to the point where you even take the refs out of the game.
    ________________________

    Where has it been reported that the Patriots tampered with Blount? I haven’t seen that anywhere. But where’s your outrage at the Jets for tampering with Revis? Why aren’t you calling them cheaters?

    As for illegally filming practices, that never happened. The Boston Herald printed an article accusing the Patriots of doing it to the Rams during Spygate, and it turns out the source was wrong, and they had to issue a full page apology. The Patriots never filmed practices. They filmed the opposing sideline from their side of the field. The filming wasn’t the issue, it’s where they were filming from that was.

    Messing with the equipment – it hasn’t been proven that the Patriots did anything to the footballs. But why aren’t you calling out the Broncos? Their O-line put Vaseline on themselves to make them harder to grab against Kansas City. Or how about your outrage at the Chargers for using stickum against the Broncos? There is a problem where teams try to get away with things, it’s not just the Patriots (who haven’t been proven do have done anything wrong to this point). Does it make it right when teams do it? No, but please be outraged at every team that does it.

    And for the last one, the illegal formations… what they did against Baltimore, all of those formations were legal. The league even ruled on those. The only formation in question was the Nate Solder touchdown, because a player changed eligibility without sitting out a play. The refs should have called an illegal formation penalty. It would have been a 5 yard penalty, that’s it.

    Don’t pretend that the Patriots are the only team looking for an edge. Every team does it in different ways. Every team is trying new ways to win. And if they are caught, they get penalized, just like other teams have been penalized like the Patriots were for Spygate.

  114. The latest report form a well connected NFL.com report state that there was one ball that was deflated, the others for the most part were a tick below which is likely due to the colder outside temperature, in other words normal.

    If you truly want to think what it is involved to tamper with 1 football, and the issues involved, it becomes obvious that nothing was done.

    1) The only person that benefits from a deflated ball is Brady, to get THE ball that is deflated, he would have to have some “TOP SECRET” signal to the ball boy to get the special ball from the sideline into the game when needed. Otherwise what is the point of deflating one ball.

    2) The ball boy would have to be the one that did the tampering and we all saw him on TV in the Colts game. Once he gets the signal from Brady. The ball boy would have to immediately find the UNMARKED deflated ball even though it is with the other balls and find a way to get it into the game. BTW, when I see the ball boy he usually has a few balls in hand and tosses one to the ref when asked and cleans up or towels off the ball tossed back.

    3) The refs change the ball, NOT the QB or the ball boy. It was raining during the Colts game so the balls were likely changed multiple times, possibly even a few times during a drive.

    4) Balls get removed from the game for multiple reasons, the most obvious is when a player keeps it after a big play. Again what is the point is deflating only one ball.

    5) The ball boy would be the first person interviewed and he would have to be willing to take cyanide to keep quiet if he tampered. There is no way the kid could lie or keep quiet with all the pressure from the intense questioning he would get from the professional and highly trained investigators unless you believe that this ball boy was an ex deep cover DEA agent, or former CIA operative. To me he looks like a kid.

    Nothing happened. Time for an apology.

  115. Is anyone here surprised that Mort got the report wrong?

    Also keep in mind that Grigson is the one who traded a #1 pick for Trent Richardson. The fact that a team was trying to trade a player who they took with the third overall pick the year before should have been a red flag but not to Grigson.
    Maybe Grigson is trying to deflect criticism of his crappy drafting by trying to get other teams in trouble.

  116. Colts LB specifically said he DID NOT NOTICE that the ball was DIFFERENT IN ANY WAY. Not FLAT, not “deflated”, nothing.

    You are saying something which is completely WRONG.

  117. Funny how they were protected in a Secret Service like fashion for the SB. You’d think Obama was on the sidelines.

    That in itself is a bold statement by the NFL admitting that tampering with game balls after inspection could have been possible, and now a reaction to avoid it in the future.

  118. Illegally filming practices, turning in false injury reports every week, hiding concussions, tampering with players still playing for other clubs (Blount), messing with the equipment to gain an advantage, pushing the rules and running illegal plays to the point where you even take the refs out of the game.
    ———-
    This is the level of the conspiracy idiocy.

    Never videotaped anyone’s practice. Videotaped SIGNALS which were being done in front of the whole stadium.

    Report Brady as getting treatment. THey have to, even if he’s playing. Letter of the law.

    Blount was CUT. Did Belichick do a jedi mind trick on the steelers to cut him? Then do a jedi mind trick on all other 30 clubs so they wouldn’t claim him on WAIVERS which they COULD HAVE?

  119. This is ridiculous. How has the NFL not investigated the Colts? The one ball that was actually in the Colts possession was the one that was underinflated.

    I’m willing to bet that this whole asinine “investigation” was the result of a collective effort between two salty teams who couldn’t stop the Patriots.

    Harbaugh the whining crybaby who spends his time in the company of and vouches for murderes, wife beaters and criminals.

    Then an owner who tweets more than a 14 year old girl and has been abusing drugs for years and a GM that gave away a #1 for RB bust.

    Yet only the credibility of Belichick and the Patriots are being called into question.

    Laughable. I can’t wait for the Patriots to be exhonerated and for this to all be over.

  120. Where is the investigation of the Panthers heating the balls in Minnesota ? It was reported at the time? What happened NFL with THAT ball tampering????

  121. I guess Warren Sapp did not get the memo from the NFL. New year lets behave! Warren never behaved anywhere, thus,”Your Fired. Nice for the HOF mouth.

  122. I guess Warren Sapp did not get the memo from the NFL. New year lets behave! Warren never behaved anywhere, thus,”Your Fired”. Nice for the HOF mouth.

  123. I don’t care if Aaron Hernandez had escaped his legal woes and murdered someone during the Super Bowl. A win is a win. Go Pats! We’re true Patriots and the rest of the U.S. are all losers, liars and cheaters!

  124. You know what team was in the superbowl and fined and disciplined for unfair competitive advantage?

    It wasn’t the Pats. (SEA)-Carroll’s fine was at least $100,000 and the Seahawks were docked over $200,000 while the team will lose at least two minicamp practices next season because it had excessive contact between players during a June 18 practice, per sources. They did it in 2012 too. Serial cheaters. Tar and Feather them! How dare they! What about player safety?!? Think of the children!

    You know what team was fined the most for infractions in 2014?

    It wasn’t the Pats.(Indy) 4.08 million

    So who is the cheaters?

  125. Two things I’d like to comment on. 1) The morons who continue to use Brady’s ‘deflate’ comment and don’t have a clue to the entire interview.
    And 2) The media continuing to use this quote: ‘it only came up when Colts linebacker D’Qwell Jackson intercepted a Tom Brady pass and noticed that the football felt flat.’ Even though he’s stated a dozen times he never noticed anything wrong with the football.

    Let’s start looking at the real ‘deflate gate’. One football, 2 lbs under, in total possession of the Colts.

  126. Sorry Patsy boys but the rest of the U.S. and the world will always look to your franchise as very suspicious with a cry baby of an owner who had his ring stolen by a Russian before they think of you as a good straight, honest successful football club. You really saw the kind of owner he is when he started spouting of to the NFL last week.

  127. so only one football was under inflated by 2 PSI and it was the one the Colts had? I think it was either Marshawn Lynch or Bill Shakespear who said “The Colts doth protest too much, methinks”

  128. Patriot owners, players, coaches, and fans are going to have to live with the fact that the team’s reputation has been forever tarnished and they will be known for the next 50 years, or at least until this generation of people dies off, as cheaters. Click all the thumbs up or thumbs downs you want Pats fans but facts are facts. That cheating stink is not going to leave the team. Brady and Belichick will most likely make it into the Hall of Fame but everyone will still see that big ole “*” next to all their accomplishments.

    – Queue the Pat fan rants! That’s right, go ahead and click that thumbs down….nothing will change….go ahead, you know you want to do it.

  129. Wanting closure on this issue means nothing. Closure is only necessary when an incident happens. Mortensen should be fired for his erroneous reporting, the people in the nfl leaking this erroneous should be fired, Goodell should be fired for escalating this issue with his non actions and the Colts should be embarassed for complaining about the football in the first place. Excuses are for losers.

  130. I love patsies fans (been fans for about 10 years or so)….deflect deflect deflect..but,but,we didn’t do it..we’re not the only ones…youre a team of cheaters..just accept it

  131. Pats, Brady, BB should all sue the NFL, ESPN and all the media reporters that got this wrong with their leaks. They must be stopped because reputations are being destroyed without due process and no evidence of any wrongdoing. What really happened as it turns out turns out NONE of the pats balls were more than .5 underinflatedduring the game.. the only ball at 2 or more was actually a COLTS ball…. hmmm! any wonder Kraft is so beyond ticked at all this and demanding apologies. this entire thing should have ended in 2 days at the most. instead goody being a moral midget at this point has allow it to drag with false leaks to his media buds and on and on.. messing with our legacy

  132. This figures. He learned from the best. This dude is a former eagle. That whole organization is Shady.

  133. The only thing deflated was Luck’s ego. He’ll be another great player from game 1-16 and then fizzle sticks in the playoffs. Aaron Rogers will show him how to collapse in the big games.

  134. When the NFL is coming to Foxborough, a call is placed to RK from RG. When the NFL is looking at everyone else, crickets. $44M is the price for honor. One day this will come out, and we will get some wonderful asterisks in the record book. For now, enjoy the ill gotten gains Belicheaters.

  135. … and we know from the endless media demonstrations that Grigson only needed mere SECONDS to take air out of the ball

    So the question is, how many draft picks are the Colts going to lose for this? Perhaps Goodell can tack on a few for the fact that the Colts PURPOSEFULLY threw games to gain Andrew Luck.

    Oh, but forgive me – fixing the outcomes of games is fine with Goodell’s view of “the integrity of the game”

    A slightly under-inflated ball? NOW WE’RE OUTRAGED!

  136. The U.S. seems to be shifty from a culture of standing for your principles to a culture of “anything to win”. I guess it’s just ironic the team that embodies that shift in our favorite sport happens to be called the Patriots. Touche Universe.

  137. Come on Patriot haters sing along with me.

    WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS MY FRIEND….
    AND WE’LL KEEP ON FIGHTING TILL THE END

    ba ba ba baaaaaa OH

    WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS!

    WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS!

    NO TIME FOR LOOOOZERS CAUSE WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS…. OF THE WORRRRRRRRLD!

  138. immafubared says:
    Feb 3, 2015 4:06 PM
    The only thing deflated was Luck’s ego. He’ll be another great player from game 1-16 and then fizzle sticks in the playoffs. Aaron Rogers will show him how to collapse in the big games.

    —————-

    Football is a team game. Not even Brady could do enough to win this last Super Bowl and ultimately required a rookie to make a play with 0:20 to go. It’s just a lot easier to focus on one person and not a team though, right? You could use your logic to explain why Montana is better than Brady – Brady had two additional opportunities to cement himself as the greatest and couldn’t carry the team on his back alone. The truth is, there was a lot more to the losses than Brady’s play which wasn’t terrible by any means.

    This is why measuring individuals based on team victories is the most tired, futile, and yet sensational argument in sports. It makes me want to YAK!

  139. … and we know from the endless media demonstrations that Grigson only needed mere SECONDS to take air out of the ball

    So the question is, how many draft picks are the Colts going to lose for this? Perhaps Goodell can tack on a few for the fact that the Colts PURPOSEFULLY threw games to gain Andrew Luck.

    Oh, but forgive me – fixing the outcomes of games is fine with Goodell’s view of “the integrity of the game”

    A slightly under-inflated ball? NOW WE’RE OUTRAGED!

    ——–

    GREAT POST!

    The commissioner will strip the Colts of those picks and give them to the Patriots to try and prevent Kraft’s lawsuit from happening.

    I wonder what the Pats will do with them. Perhaps another weapon for Brady? Fix up the DL a bit? Hmm.. WHAT TO DO…SO MANY APPETIZING CHOICES

  140. Here’s a fact that the Patriot haters are just going to have to live with for their entire lives…

    Those *’s you put in front of the Patriot’s four Superbowl victories are just in your imagination.

    All four Superbowl victories. All three Brady MVP’s are official and always will be.

    Sweet dreams!

  141. The interesting thing about this is that the Colts and Goodell have now set the bar for the rest of the NFL

    This was the Colts attempting to create a distraction mid-game. They had a concern, they did not let the NFL know, and were content to raise the issue mid-game (content to actually allow the game to be played with supposed sub-par equipment just to create a distraction mid -game)

    So NOW any coach – including Belichick – can raise an issue of concern mid game and Goodell and the NFL are COMPELLED to stop what they are doing, notify the accused team, cause them a distraction, and create a firestorm for the NFL

    So WELL DONE ROGER GOODELL in standing up for the “integrity of the game” – once again he creates a controversy where none exists and the shape of the game is forever changed…

    That is UNLESS he penalizes the COLTS as false whistle blowers for trying to create a distraction for their own benefit

  142. *

    Get used to it, it will never completely go away.

    Add another this week, and leave some room while you’re at it.

  143. Chris Mortensen is talking more trash. No facts about what he said and who leaked it to him, just more distortions to point the finger at the Patriots.

    Latest statement by Mortensen is that the Colts told the refs before the game to look out for under inflated balls and did so in writing before the game.

    Questions Mort is answering and no one is asking him:

    How does he know that for a fact?

    Why didn’t the refs or the Colts D’Qwell Jackson notice the ball the Colts gave to the ref after the interception was under inflated?

    Why isn’t Mortensen questioning the fact that the Colts produced the only ball reported to be 2 psi low?

    Who leaked to him the false information that 10 of the 11 Patriots game balls were 2 psi under inflated?

    Why isn’t he showing any concern that he reported and disseminated a story that was material false and that many used his story to indict Brady, Belichick, and the Patriots and why hasn’t he apologized?

    Why is his Twitter feed silent?

    To every media person that has spoken to Mortensen, why do you let him talk trash without asking him reasonable (not tough) questions?

  144. HYPOCRIT GOODELL!

    Let’s get this straight. As soon as information is leaked that there might have been a sting, the NFL suddenly drops the “We can’t comment on an ongoing investigation” routine and gives out information so they don’t look bad.

    Yet, for two weeks, speculation runs all over the internet about what might have happened, conflicting information everywhere. For 10 days everyone heard that 11 bals were 2 pounds under. The NFL couldn’t comment, couldn’t just say, “No they were just below the mininum” because they didn’t about damage being done to a team trying to prepare for a superbowl. When asked point blank in public if the NFL ever checked balls at half time before, Goodell can’t comment.

    Are the Falcons guilty or innocent of enhanced noise? If innocent, Goodell won’t care aobut team or fans. Let ’em twist in the wind. Can’t make a public announcement about an ongoing investigation, you know. HOWEVER, you KNOW if anything gets out that might make the league look bad, there will be a public announcement.

    Friggin’ hypocrits.

  145. This is why measuring individuals based on team victories is the most tired, futile, and yet sensational argument in sports. It makes me want to YAK!

    —————

    Agreed.

    HOWEVER….

    When you’re talking about a much larger sample size, like 4 SB’s over 14 years as opposed to just 1 title over 1… then it’s reasonable to think that victories become much more relevant for the individual player when you are comparing them.

    Any QB on a great team can win a SB… Dilfer proved that. But there’s a good reason why the likes of Dilfer can win 1 super bowl but not more than that. Only 3 players have won 4….

  146. Love reading these comments for no other reason that to see fans complaining about leaks, misinformation and half truths, while using leaks, misinformation and half truths to defend their personal agenda.

    Baseball cannot come soon enough after this terrible, scandal plagued NFL season.

  147. Grigson is a scumbag who can’t win on the field and his only way to “get even” is to make up some bogus cheating scandal.

    He’ll be out of a job soon anyway, after his failed roster building in Indy.

  148. Jackson has already been quoted:

    “In my opinion, I thought I have pretty good hands,” he said. “But I don’t know one way or the other whether a deflated ball or inflated ball would help that matter.”

    “I’m a linebacker, I’m a defensive guy,” Jackson said. “If anybody recognized anything it definitely wouldn’t come from me.”

    Jackson handed the ball to the Colts’ equipment staff to save for him as a souvenir, but he doesn’t know what happened to the ball after that.

    After being asked how his souvenir ball got to NFL officials, Jackson said, “I don’t know how it got to this point. Somehow I’m in the middle of it.”

    Time to start interviewing the Colts players and staff. Will probably turn out that Grigson told the equipment staff that if they got a NE ball to take some air out of it.

  149. latenightroach says:
    Feb 3, 2015 2:14 PM

    PS Pat fans – The Seahawks were beaten by the Seahawks
    ——————————————————–
    Right ….. “The Pass That Intercepted Itself ” 😉

  150. Wow, this is like when’s Brady’s mommy, I mean wife, Gisele tried to blame a drop of a pass by Wes Welker for the last Superbowl loss. Conveniently forgetting that receivers don’t catch 100% of all passes and that it was in fact Brady’s rookie-like blunders in that Superbowl that actually cost the Pats that game.

    Luckily, in this Sunday’s Superbowl, in spite of two horrendous Brady interceptions, Brady was bailed out by two great defensive plays (on down 1 and 2 near the goal line) as well as amazing job by Edelman and co getting so wide open (guess why Brady was 13-of 15 passing? it was pitch and catch out there folks). Just an amazing job of coaching by Belichek, Patricia and McDaniels. Just think, without those two interceptions, the score at the half would have probably been between 21-28 to 0!

    Guess we didn’t have to hear from Gisele this time (way to ease up grandma!)

  151. Geniusry says:
    Feb 3, 2015 10:49 AM
    Fact.

    11 out of 12 balls handled by the Patriots ball boys were underinflated by 2psi. After someone got wind that the Colts figured this out, they fix the issue at half time so they wouldn’t be caught. There is no debate about that and the Patriots should be punished accordingly.

    That being said, they won the game with properly inflated footballs so there is no question as to the legitimacy of that. I would like to see an investigation as to who Kraft called to make Bevell make the dumbest play call ever, though.

    —————————-

    Where’d you get your facts? The 2 psi figure was a leaked report. Ian Rappaport is now citing a source who said only ONE ball was 2 psi under while the other 11 were only a “tick” under the minimum.

    Stop perpetrating a lie to make yourself feel better. And, let’s see what the official report says since, ya know, the NFL hasn’t released the actual facts.

    And, I predict if it’s not what the haters want to hear, they’ll cry conspiracy. So whatever.

  152. TheWizard says:
    Feb 3, 2015 5:00 PM

    *

    Get used to it, it will never completely go away.

    ——————————-

    You’re right. It will never completely go away because like someone once said, “Diamonds last forever.”

    And this: *

    Looks like a diamond!

  153. “It’s 17-7. We can win this one. If only there was something.”
    “Hey, I think they’re playing with under-inflated footballs.”
    “Bingo! Call the NFL officials. Get the refs to check the footballs. We’ve got ’em now! Brady will fall apart with a harder football.”

    Final score: 45-7

    “Me and my B-I-G mouth!”

  154. krycek21 says: Feb 3, 2015 4:20 PM

    One day this will come out, and we will get some wonderful asterisks in the record book. For now, enjoy the ill gotten gains Belicheaters.
    ———————————————————-
    Ooooh. Feelings hurt? Hey, maybe next year the Colts will man up and be able to actually win a game on the field.

  155. There were no scandals, per se. Things happened because you have a bunch of athletes who were in the ghetto one day and cashing million dollar checks the next and they don’t know how to act, but there was no scandal until Goodell tried to cover things up. Goodell is the only scandal here.

  156. Goodell was the son of a senator, albeit an appointed one who lost what he called in his own campaign literature his “re-election bid”. No lying and cheating there, just a little gamesmanship. Right Roger?

    It just occurred to me that Goodell thinks he’s Bart Giamatti. He’s not. He’s an administrator and he’s doing a terrible job of administrating.

  157. And this: *

    Looks like a diamond!

    —-

    I THINK IT LOOKS LIKE A DIAMOND IN THE NICE SHINY RINGS THE WORLD CHAMPS WILL BE GETTING VERY SOON.

    4 RINGS FOR BRADY. WOW. THAT IS A LOT OF DIAMONDS.

    DO YOU THINK HE WILL WEAR ALL OF HIS RINGS ON ONE HAND OR BOTH? I SAY HE WEARS THEM ON ONE HAND. DISCUSS.

  158. Ooooh. Feelings hurt? Hey, maybe next year the Colts will man up and be able to actually win a game on the field.
    ————

    Whatever you do… next time the Pats play the Colts….take the Pats, lay the points and take the over.

    That is all.

  159. TheWizard says:
    Feb 3, 2015 5:00 PM

    *

    Get used to it, it will never completely go away.
    ———————————————————
    Great. You keep typing, I’ll go get ready for the victory parade tomorrow.

  160. Teams are constantly looking for competitive advantages. The Colts won a Super Bowl after beating a flu riddoned Patriots team by cranking the heat when the Pats were on D and piping in crowd noise over their PA system.

    Teams are still filming signals, just not from the field. Spygate , deflategate ….both laughable.

    They are both a direct result of DOMINATE-GATE!

    Go Pats!

  161. Geniusry says: Feb 3, 2015 10:49 AM

    Fact.

    11 out of 12 balls handled by the Patriots ball boys were underinflated by 2psi. After someone got wind that the Colts figured this out, they fix the issue at half time so they wouldn’t be caught. There is no debate about that and the Patriots should be punished accordingly.

    That being said, they won the game with properly inflated footballs so there is no question as to the legitimacy of that. I would like to see an investigation as to who Kraft called to make Bevell make the dumbest play call ever, though.
    __________________________________
    Not sure where you’re getting your info, but you need to find a new source because those are most certainly not established facts. The only ball that was off by a noticeable margin was the one in the Colts custody. The others were inflated to meet regulation air pressure during halftime AFTER they were tested and found to be slightly off…which is what you might expect if they were initially inflated to the lower end of allowable pressure (Brady’s stated preference) and then taken out into the cold. As for your suggestion that they reinflated them before they were tested because they feared they’d get caught, that might be a little hard to do without being noticed by the ton of cameras recording pretty much everything. Besides, if you were reinflating them to avoid getting busted, why reinflate to just a couple ticks under the specified air pressure?

  162. Great. You keep typing, I’ll go get ready for the victory parade tomorrow.

    —–

    GREAT POST!

    I THINK TOMORROW SHOULD BE A NATIONAL HOLIDAY. THE WORLD CHAMPION PATRIOTS ARE AMERICA’S TEAM AND AS PATRIOT-ic AMERICANS WE SHOULD ALL CELEBRATE THEIR SUCCESS.

  163. xli2006, recheck your “facts”. A writer wrote a piece accusing the Pats of taping the Rams pre-SB walkthrough. Their publication was forced to print a retraction (not something they like to do, or agree to do easily) when it was shown that there was ZERO evidence to remotely support this accusation. Despite all of the conspiracy theories about the Pats, the only rule they’ve even been proven to have broken was the one they got busted for in spygate. Even then, it was a case of failing to adapt to comply with a change in the rules. Despite all the asterisk talk, what they got busted for in spygate wasn’t against the rules during their first 3 SB runs.

  164. So judging by the overall thumbs up (or down) relative to the comments made, it seems that 80% +/- of the folks still following this and related stories are Pats fans. Is the NFL listening? As a gentle reminder there are 31 other teams and most honorable folks want transparency, integrity and justice served up in consistent Goodell fashion where ignorance is no excuse. (Predicting 80% thumbs down)

  165. So judging by the overall thumbs up (or down) relative to the comments made, it seems that 80% +/- of the folks still following this and related stories are fans of the 2014 Super Bowl and 4 time Super Bowl champion Pats. Is the NFL listening? As a gentle reminder there are 31 other teams and all of them are losers. There is only one winner and they are named the Patriots.
    ————–
    I FIXED YOUR POST FOR YOU FOR ACCURACY. DON’T THANK ME, IT WAS MY PLEASURE.

    WATCH THE PARADE TOMORROW WHERE OUR NICE SPARKLING NEW SHINY LOMBARDI TROPHY WILL BE CELEBRATED BY AMERICA. ALL FANS OF INFERIOR TEAMS ALL WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS AND WINNERS OF MORE SUPER BOWLS THAN ANY OTHER TEAM IN THE LAST THIRD OF A CENTURY.

    AS THEY SHOULD.

  166. It amazes the heck out of me that a lot of people here condone cheating, including Deflategate. That “win” was only an asterisk that will lead to a more severe punishment than for Spygate, and I’m referring to stripping away your “prize”…you’ll only be left with an asterisk

  167. footballfannie says: Feb 3, 2015 9:35 PM

    …Is the NFL listening? As a gentle reminder there are 31 other teams and most honorable folks want transparency, integrity and justice served up in consistent Goodell fashion where ignorance is no excuse….

    —————————-

    I think that’s fair. But do you think any of the 31 other teams really want the Patriots to be railroaded again like they were with spygate, only with another dumb issue and with zero evidence against them? The NFL has gravely mishandled this investigation. They jumped on the Pats out of the gate and their carefully-manipulated press leaks have backfired on them now, as the real evidence seems to show no grand conspiracy on the Pats’ part. (despite what conspiracy theorists think)

    Haters will continue to grasp at straws and think the worst. But every NFL team will look at this debacle and they DON’T want to be the team under that microscope, and subject to this same kind of BS “trial by public opinion” in the media.

    If the Pats get stiff sanctions based on the current evidence, what about the Falcons and their seemingly-proven cheating by pumping in excessive crowd noise? Other dome teams have been accused of the same thing. Do you think those teams want Goodell to arbitrarily bring the hammer down on them, regardless of evidence?

    And, if the NFL finds no wrongdoing by the Pats, what’s the consequence for putting them through the wringer for 2 weeks prior to the SB? The way this has been handled has been inexcusable.

    Regardless of how you or anyone else feels about the Pats (and I’m not even a fan, I’m just sick of the nonsense), people need to understand the obvious, which is that all teams try to bend the rules, and none of them deserve to have this kind of public, arbitrary judgment via media.

    If the owners were smart (and for many of them, that’s debatable) they would see that the way these things are being handled is bad for the league. Think beyond blind Pats hate and just imagine your team going through this. They should be looking for the truth, but they’ve allowed “the truth” to be decided by the public based on incomplete and/or inaccurate information.

  168. Fact: Grigson worked for the Rams in 01 and the Eagles in 04.

    This dude clearly has a vendetta. He found kindred spirit in Mike Kensil and together they used Bob Kravitz in one of the most embarrassing actions to have ever happened to the shield.

    Everyone involved in Framegate should be ashamed.

    Everyone who still believes the lies needs to wake up.

  169. LIKE CARRYING 16 CLUBS IN YOUR GOLF BAG AT THE MASTERS!

    LIKE PUTTING RAZOR BLADES IN YOUR BOXING GLOVES IN A CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHT!
    _____________________
    The NFL bent the rules backwards to accommodate their favorite “don’t hit me I am a QB” touch football proponents, Manning and Bob Kraft’s own QB because whatever Kraft wants Kraft gets from his Park Avenue bitch, Roger Goodell.

    – They got the tuck rule,
    – they got the squeaky clean unmolested receivers breaking through so nobody can touch them or even look at them,
    – they got the don’t tackle them low penalty,
    – they got the don’t tackle them high penalty,
    – they throw flags at defender that moves near Brady and Brady still spends the whole game complaining about almost getting hit (he ref, that guy almost hit me, watch him… man up bitch play football)

    -They then allow them to do whatever they please and have their own footballs, something that the QB’s prior to Brady time did not have… yes that’s right, when Dan Marino went to play in Buffalo weather, he had to play with Buffalo Bills supplied footballs.

    And with all of that, they still compare stats of Montana, Elway, Kelly, Marion and those QB’s of yesteryear with this bunch of touch footballers of today. Under those rules, Dan Fouts and Air Coriel would have traveled in yardage back to the moon and back and Montana and Bradshaw would have had each their own building at Canton, Ohio.

    But that is not enough for Bob Kraft boys because they belong to the Lance Armstrong fraternity. The Patriots still had to go and cheat with Spygate which Goodell unbelievably and inexplicably to the World burned the evidence as requested by his master Bob Kraft and now deflating footballs they will make that disappear even though it is clear they have been doing it all year when they realized that Brady’s 37 years of age had 3 rough games to start the year and this softer ball under specs was better for him and Pats could catch easier and fumble less.

    THEY CHEAT AND CHEAT AND CHEAT… then they go to the rule book to see how they can confuse the referees in the middle of a playoff game as they did when they saw themselves in trouble playing mano a mano v.s. Baltimore. It is like carrying 16 clubs in your golf bag at the Masters or putting razor blades in your boxing gloves to cut the opponent up in a championship fight. SHADY BRADY AND BELICHEAT!

  170. it blows my mind how these Patriots fans can try to justify cheating, show a little bit of integrity please and quit taking up for somebody that done something wrong!!!and then they try to say that Goodell has lost all of his integrity, I believe the Patriots fans are the ones that lost all of the integrity!

  171. Well, here we are, two years later. Brady served his 4-game suspension at the start of the 2016 season, the Pate went 3-1 in his absence, then Brady came back and the Pats proceeded to steamroll the rest of the league on their way to a 14-2 record, best in the league. Tomorrow (1-22-17) they play in their 6th consecutive AFC championship game, and they are the favorites to win Super Bowl 51. Deflategate is now nothing more than an ugly footnote in football history.

    In other news Donald Trump is now the President of the United States. Ryan Grigson was fired today as Colts GM.

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