New Deflategate theory: Colts deflated ball after Jackson’s pick

AP

Deflategate may now have more conspiracy theories than the Kennedy assassination. Here’s the latest: It was the Colts, not the Patriots, who deflated a football in the AFC Championship Game.

Several reports have indicated that the Colts first noticed that the Patriots were deflating footballs when linebacker D’Qwell Jackson intercepted a Tom Brady pass and the ball felt flat. The new conspiracy theory is that after Jackson’s interception, the Colts took some air out of that football on their own sideline before handing it over to the officials to have it tested.

It’s not completely clear where this conspiracy theory started, but it was floated today on Boston radio station WEEI, when Adam Schefter of ESPN was a guest. After the host proposed to Schefter that “The Colts deflated the one ball that D’Qwell Jackson intercepted, and all the other balls were just a tick under,” Schefter said that’s a theory he’s heard.

“I do think there are people who believe that,” Schefter said. “I know there are people who believe that. . . . I’ll just say, I’m not even going to specify, there are people who believe that, OK? There are people who believe that. And I think there are people who have heard that theory and who say, ‘That’s impossible.'”

It’s still unclear how many of the Patriots’ 12 offensive footballs were found to be deflated, and by how much. There have been reports that 11 of the 12 balls were significantly under-inflated, and if those reports are correct, then the theory that the Colts deflated a ball wouldn’t explain why 10 other balls were under-inflated. But there have also been reports that only one ball was significantly under-inflated, and that other balls were either within the correct inflation range or only barely under-inflated. If those reports are true — and if the one ball that was significantly under-inflated was the one that the Colts handed over to the officials after Jackson’s interception — that could lend some credence to the new conspiracy theory. And, of course, if that’s found to be true, then the Colts would find themselves in hot water with the league.

Could it turn out that it’s the Colts, not the Patriots, who get busted for Deflategate? It sounds crazy. But at this point we can’t rule anything out.

337 responses to “New Deflategate theory: Colts deflated ball after Jackson’s pick

  1. Pat fans are not as gullible as the rest of the world. Like we’ve stated before, we will wait for the facts to come out before any judgments. You’d think the rest of the world would follow

  2. I think the best solution to this issue is for them to just forget about what happened last month and then implement a plan to prevent any team from altering the PSI of the balls in the future.

    The NFL can have their own employees inflate all the balls and maintain control of the balls for every game.

    Problem solved.

    And I’m not a fan of the Patriots.

  3. ” I was there and I witnessed the Colts deflate them with my own eyes!” – Brian Williams

  4. This is beyond crazy now. The league should just complete this thing already. How long does it take to figure out what happened?

  5. Well, I give the Patriots* fans credit — for once they’re not relying on nonsense such as “everyone cheats” or “we would have won even if we didn’t cheat” defenses. But this conspiracy theory just confirms that they’re crazier than ever.

  6. Patriots fans have known this ever since word came out that the intercepted ball was the only one more than a tick under spec. Thought it was common knowledge, perhaps not.

  7. pretty obvious if only one was 2 lbs under and the rest were close to 12.5 rumor was true. very very obvious actually. Just what the patriots needed, some of indys draft picks.. wonderful

  8. At this point I don’t really care to be honest. Super Bowl is done. Time for the draft!

    Patriots woulda killed Colts regardless.

    Seahawks lost the game.

    Let’s move on.

  9. I’d like to hear what Brunell has to say about this.

    We don’t need to wait to hear from Jerry Rice though, as he has already shown himself to be a hypocrite whose opinion has no value at all.

  10. Haters don’t care about facts. Pats haven’t done one thing wrong but those conspiracy theorists just can’t accept truth…it is literally not even a consideration for them.

  11. @floratiotime
    Are you stupid? The latest report is that only 1 football was significantly under pressure while the other 10 were just a tick under. That lone football was the one that made its way to the Colts sideline.

  12. All you non-pats fans can debate this junk, talk about spygate and aliens and the Sasquatch. We are just feeding off your hatred. Enjoy your mother’s basements haters!

  13. Ian Rapoport said 10 of the 11 deflated footballs were only ” a few ticks” under the limit, only the ball intercepted by the colts was 2 psi under the limit.

  14. Oh yeah, this is like getting it from 60 minutes:

    “It’s not completely clear where this conspiracy theory started, but it was floated today on Boston radio station WEEI”

  15. To those who keep saying “explain the other 10″….have you all missed the multiple reports stating that the only ball deflated to a questionable level was this one? The report from Mortensen that said that 11 of 12 were significantly deflated was withdrawn a week ago

  16. Aw c’mon Goodell, you made it clear early on you were gonna whitewash this for your buddy Kraft, but this is a bit much even by your thin standards.

  17. The media should read the comments section here since this theory has been reported for awhile.

  18. They need to just put this one to bed as unsolvable like Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster. The NFL has absolutely zero clue what happened. They don’t know what the pressure was before any possible deflating. And what about the initial claim that 11 of 12 balls were low? That must now be out the window, too. Goodell will probably eventually decide Ray Rice did it all in the elevator but lied to them about it.

  19. I think it’s sad that cheating will always be linked to the Pats. They could have been a true dynasty.

  20. all pats haters should be prevented from going into any tall buildings with Windows that open. I’m not sure thier desire over facts can handle this concept. To save the lives of many already delusional people who spend thier days dreaming of calling the pats cheaters irrelevant of the facts that they have no facts, I’m suggesting a new conspiracy thoery immediately to bring meaning to thier lives so they can return to spending thier days pretending the pats are cheaters.

  21. Jackson gave the ball to the elderly man to hold, the man went to the bathroom on the way to the locker room at half time and then he gave the ball to the colts brass who then complained to the NFL. the the rest is history.

    The NFL has the man on video entering the restroom with the ball. He was int eh restroom for 40 seconds.

  22. It’s clear Patriots deflated the balls and the ball Colts intercepted was already deflated so they decided to deflate it even more, but the others are Patriots. Once a cheater will always be one. Those rings are useless, throw them away and start all over. This time Belichicken won’t even dream about going to Super Bowl.

  23. This sounds like a Kraft theory.

    Roger,
    Please confirm these alarming facts implicating Irsay’s mob. Also still waiting for the official NFL apology to Tom, Bill and myself.
    Robert

    Yes, you can kiss the rings.

  24. Ian Rappaport reported on Sunday morning (great timing… if you wanted to bury the story) that only 1 of the balls was deflated 2psi and the others were a “tick” under. The only report of all 11 being 2psi under came from Mort (same guy who nailed the Ray Rice crap!!) 2 weeks ago, and everyone went crazy with that report. Oddly, not the same fervor with the buried report from Rappaport? So who do you believe… Mort or Rappaport?

  25. What happened was, Jim Irsay heard a rumor that the balls were filled with nitrous oxide and well, he was a little bummed about getting beat so bad and he took the air out of the balls thinking it would make him feel a little better…. Yeah that’s it; Thaaaat’s the ticket…

  26. Or… OR…

    The team that has been known to cheat in the recent past to win Super Bowls… Cheated again to win a Super Bowl.

    There’s no “there” there.

  27. I wouldn’t be surprised at anything about now. The NFL has milked this ‘scandal’ to death. Giving out select info to desperate analysts. In the beginning, all the balls except one were 2lbs under, then only one. Then we hear the refs never wrote down what they were to begin with. And how difficult is it to track down what happened? We are talking about 12 footballs! My guess is they are trying to get this unmitigated disaster to go quietly into the night…

  28. The Patriots cheat, they win the Super Bowl probably knowing the play call so end of story. Roger Goodell and the NFL will do nothing.

  29. This is such old news ever since the report came out that only one ball was significantly different than the rest. Hard to believe that people are just catching up to this now…

  30. To the people who think it’s only pats fans who belive this i say you might want to listen to boomer Esiason who knows more about football the all of you and who has more I formation behind the scenes then all of you. He was adamant this week that he believes this is what happened.

    Colts should lose thier first round pick and it should be awarded to the pats. and the nfl should offer free therapy to all thier fans who are so desperate to ignore facts and make accusations.

    Love the guy who said what happened to the other ten balls, so he is basically taking the rumour that all 11 were 2psi under but ignoring the report that said only one was under. Cmon pats haters ignore this report as nonsense while you give meaning to other reports that are just as equally unproven.

    Gotta love people who cherry pick information to support the outcome they so desire.

    How come Dquell Jackson said he didn’t notice anything different about the ball he handed over for safe keeping to remember his interception. Ignore that one also people in fact if this reports is found true pats haters should take solace in. My latest report that belichek used Jedi mind tricks to force the colts to leak air from the ball, in order to get thier first round pick

  31. An Even Newer Deflategate Theory:

    Now it’s a media creation with main stream media & others inflating their corporate bank accounts.

    We will call this MEDIA INFLATEGATE!

  32. There’s one problem with this theory. The Colts should be smart enough to know that the NFL would find the Pats did nothing wrong, if the Colts in fact deflated them. And then who are hey gonna go to once the Pats have been cleared? The Colts

  33. Colts fan here.

    If it’s true that the ONLY ball significantly deflated was the one handed over by the Colts, then I will get in line and crucify them. That is shady and wrong on so many levels.

    My challenge to Pats fans is if 11/12 balls are found to be deflated, would you criticize your team? Of course not…

    You guys are the first ones to call into radio stations and call out Alex Rodriguez as “A-Fraud” and Rodger Clemens was cheating and juicing the whole time.

    Then when it comes to your Pats getting caught cheating, the story changes to “Well everyone does it”… and “It didn’t even help!”… and “We woulda won anyways”…

  34. Pats fans: The team is innocent. Colts did it; weather did it; it didn’t matter; Ravens caused it. Try to overwhelm every post with tds and hater comments.

    the other 97% of NFL fans: Patriots cheated. End of discussion.

    Right or wrong, that is how this is playing out.

  35. hakunamangata says:
    Feb 6, 2015 7:09 PM

    then explain the other 10
    ———————————————————-
    Typical; hater, not paying attention. Let me explain it to you.

    Originally it was reported by Mortensen that 11 of 12 Patriots footballs were under-inflated by 2 PSI each. Now, it turns out that 10 of those 11were actually MUCH CLOSER to the minimum of 12.5 PSI, reports were that they were “a tick or two under”, which is easily explained away by the cold weather. Indy’s balls partially deflated too, as physics demands, but they started out at 13.5 PSI, and so were still above the minimum.

    As for the ball that was 2PSI under, reports are that that was the “intercepted” ball. The Colt who intercepted that pass hast stated that he never noticed any issues with that ball, yet by the time the equipment manager turned the ball over to Chuck Pagano, who turned it over to GM Greigson, who turned it over to the NFL – after almost 20 minutes of possession – that football somehow ended up 2 PSI under the limit.

    The same Indianapolis Colts who complained to the NFL after a game in November, when it was too late for the league to check the balls, ended up turning over a significantly under-inflated ball, after they had possession of it for TWENTY MINUTES ……. and you people crucified the Patriots for deflating ELEVEN footballs, in NINETY SECONDS!!!!!

    Now that the other 10 footballs are revealed to have been very close to the minimum, it makes you wonder how that last ball – in the control of the Colts – ended up so far under those other ten.

    Hmmmmmmm …

    Why would it be more likely that the Patriots deflated 11 footballs in 90 seconds, than the Colts deflating ONE, in TWENTY minutes????

  36. The reason nothing has come out is the league knows exactly what happened. NOTHING. I stop short at believing the colts would deflate a FB. I do believe Harbaugh and Pagano instigated the whole thing. The leaks and tabloid journalism are the problem. The NFL baited everyone with false ‘information'(via leaks) that the Pats were guilty. Two-bit tabloid ‘journalists’ took the bait and ran with it. What do they care? They’ll just be on to the next rumor next week. Wreck SBowl week for the Pats? Tough. Give fodder for the tin foil hat cult for years? Who carers. There’s no accountability anymore

  37. On 60 Minutes of Sports Tuesday evening, Troy Vincent basically confirmed that only 1 ball was – 2 PSI and that the rest were a tick under. He also confirmed that the NFL was tipped off by Ryan Grigson.

    When asked if an apology to the Patriots will be forthcoming, he said that vindication is enough.

  38. It has also been reported that D’kwell has actually stated that he noticed no difference in the ball he intercepted & just wanted to keep the ball as as sivioneer of the championship game…. Then after 20 mins in the colts possession got turned into the league 2 PSI under!!!

  39. The cover up trial balloons by Goodell get more ridiculous by the day.

    Baghdad Brady and Belicheat are a disgrace to the NFL.

  40. NEPats1 says: Feb 6, 2015 7:24 PM

    Ian Rappaport reported on Sunday morning (great timing… if you wanted to bury the story) that only 1 of the balls was deflated 2psi and the others were a “tick” under. The only report of all 11 being 2psi under came from Mort (same guy who nailed the Ray Rice crap!!) 2 weeks ago, and everyone went crazy with that report. Oddly, not the same fervor with the buried report from Rappaport? So who do you believe… Mort or Rappaport?
    ————————————————–
    If there was an NFL cover-up, which person would you trust most? Someone from NFL.com or the more honest one?

  41. I think the Colts were the ones who cheated on the videotaping a couple years ago too. LOL

  42. Makes a lot of sense especially with Jackson’s resent history. Hmmm
    If and when this is proven to be the truth Indy should not be allowed to participate in the 2015 NFL draft.

  43. This theory actually makes more since to me then Bill or Tom paid off a ball boy to remove 2 PSI which has been proven to have a minuscule advantage on catching and holding on to the ball. It also creates a disadvantage throwing the ball. So yep I can believe this or that is was just nature freaking out the media the NFL and fans.

    Pats fans don’t really care. We are to busy shining that 4th trophy and getting ready to win our 5th. 😉

  44. doggsaint says:
    Feb 6, 2015 7:28 PM
    The Patriots cheat, they win the Super Bowl probably knowing the play call so end of story. Roger Goodell and the NFL will do nothing.

    (road rage)

  45. Now the NFL has to scramble to defend the rep of the Super Bowl champs. Pathetic.

    Why don’t they just say the investigation “found no evidence” and stop with the bull. You just know that now there’s no chance NE gets anything more than a piddly little fine for this.

  46. Facts:

    Grigson, the Colts GM, was outed by Troy Vincent as being the individual that contacted the NFL about the inflated ball instead of bringing it to the attention of the referee who was responsible for the balls.

    The story that the NFL was “investigating” the Patriots for using deflated balls was broke publicly by Bob Kravitz, a blogger for the Indianapolis Star who covers the Colts. Kravits reported that the source was an NFL official and Kravitz pointed to the interception as the smoking gun.

    Chris Mortensen, a central player in deflate gate has stated that the Colts warned the officials pre-game to watch out for deflated balls.

    Mortensen also reported as fact that 1o of the Patriots 11 balls were at least 2.0 psi below the minimum levels and stated his source was an NFL official.

    One week into the story, after Kravitz called for the NFL and Kraft to force Belichick out of the NFL and after many in the media took Mortensen’s report as gospel, a number of individuals in the media charged that either or both of Tom Brady and Belichick were responsible and that were cheaters for doing it and liars for not admitting to their responsibility, PFT and Ian Rappaport repoted that Mortensen’s report was materially inaccurate.

    Given the above facts, and reports that the only ball 2.0 psi or more lower that than minimum levels was the ball that had been in the Colts possession, this theory is not far-fetched.

  47. According to Pats fans, when trying to pin blame on their Pats, absolute PROOF is needed.

    When trying to pin blame on Colts, circumstantial evidence is all that is needed.

  48. And the Rams videographer decided to set up the camera for the Patriots video guy, who took it upon himself to video the Rams walkthrough.

  49. IF (emphasis in the word “IF”) Rapaport’s source is correct then there is reason to suspect that someone in the Colts organization tampered with the intercepted football.

    The original physicist that said natural deflation could not have occurred changed his tune and admitted a calculation error when presented the CMU Grad Student’s study. A study which also factored in another item the original physicist did not…the wet football.

    Also, we do not know that the Colts footballs didn’t suffer any loss of psi, we just know they were still in acceptable range.

  50. Jackson’s credibility is in question. If he is willing to punch and choke someone over a parking spot then it is perfectly reasonable to conclude that he is willing to deflate a ball to get “revenge” for the beatings the Colts are consistently handed by the Patriots.

  51. So now all the trolls should be putting an askerisk beside Andrew Luck’s name, right? Since these trolls are only interested in “the integrity of the game.”

    Also, let’s start saying, “Andrew Luck has never taken his team to the playoffs legitimately.”

    I mean, just because we are “fair and impartial thinkers.”

    Right?

  52. Remember the guys on here busting on Belichick for being so stupid as to let Welker go and trade Logan Mankins? How the Broncos were going to beat the world, set all offensive records?

    Thought it would be a good time to revisit that.

  53. It also creates a disadvantage throwing the ball.
    ——————————————–
    How many long balls did Brady throw successfully in any one game after the KC debacle? How many in the playoffs? All I remember is dink and dunk stuff, 90% under 10 yards.
    A deflated ball makes a difference in distance it will travel, except to Pats fans, of course.

  54. We’re talking about air in a football. Honest to god, a few ounces of air…but yeah, the most likely scenario is the Colts doing it. They had a history of getting destroyed and threw up a Hail Mary to try and disrupt the inevitable. It didn’t work.

  55. Every Patriots troll who comments here has been saying that for weeks. Honestly, do you PFT writers never read the comments?

    It didn’t happen that way, but that won’t stop the cheaters from doing everything to point the blame on someone else (after all, they don’t want to lose that hard-stolen Lombardi).

  56. As a Patriots fan I have to tell you, I just watched the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl again and it was just magnificent. The whole Patriots team played phenomenally on offense, defense, and special teams.

    Brady was 13 of 15 on the last two drives in the 4th quarter, and threw for two touchdowns against the best defense in the history of the universe (so they said). Personally, I think the ’85 Bears defense was better, but to watch TB12 and his teammates slice and dice those loud-mouthed a-holes was so sweet.

    “New England Patriots, Champions****

    ****May your jealousy drive you mad….”©

  57. I always find it funny when morons come on here and say no one outside of New England believes that they didn’t cheat. I live in NY and all of my friends think this is a media driven joke just like I do. Only a few trolls, like those on here, actually think they cheated.

  58. RIP 2015 Colts in Regular season and Post-season. Obliterated.

    Although thanks Colts for making this now an endless media topic the next time these 2 teams play for 10 years to come.

    ‘Ofcourse, the last time these 2 teams played was during the ‘deflate-gate controversy’ which began after the AFC title game’ – Al Michaels

    ‘You look at last year, the deflate-gate Controversy with Colts staff reporting the New England balls being deflated, and Troy you mentioned you thought Tom would have known about it in some capacity’ Joe Buck
    ‘I gotta tell you Joe, as a QB theres no doubt in my mind that Tom Brady was involved or knew about it in some way’ — Troy Aikman

    “Well Jim, we talked about it and talked to ‘Hyymm’ all week about the deflated footballs, and he told us I should just stop broadcasting games in the NFL”

  59. I think that ball boy is involved because he looks shady and has a guilty looking persona with shifty eyes. Of course we still have to identify said ball boy but I’m sure he looks like that.

  60. Boomer Esiason says he thinks that the Ravens and Colts conspired to embarrass Brady and colluded to make this happen. I think that’s too Machiavellian, but it’s interesting nonetheless that he thinks that.

  61. Ok for those of you with obvious reading comprehension issues. This theory came to light after NFL.com reported that only one ball was under inflated, the one the colts had in their position for up to 20 min before turning it over. That means, that 11 of the 12 balls were either in range or barely under. This is not a Mort report, or some other unnamed source this is the leagues own network. This did not start at WEEI or that other second rate sports station in Boston. Why this is so hard for some of you to follow is beyond me. It must be that your jealousy of the World Champion Patriots runs so deep that you ignore most of what was written in the article and just make up your own story. Most Patriots fans have been saying from day 1 wait for ALL the facts to come out, not unnamed sources and unconfirmed reports. Your welcome.

  62. We won the SB. We are immune to haters rant; we’ll just smile and wait for the result of the sting. No matter what, we won fair and square. As for those asteriskers? The only asterisk you see is on your keyboard. Keep hitting it all you want. Heck… ****************** there now. Doesn’t mean anything.

  63. willycents says: Feb 6, 2015 7:48 PM

    How many long balls did Brady throw successfully in any one game after the KC debacle? How many in the playoffs? All I remember is dink and dunk stuff, 90% under 10 yards.
    ————————————————————
    Belichick doesn’t believe in the throwing long – thinks it’s a low percentage play with a lot of risk. So they run less risky plays and execute to (near) perfection. But if you think this is easy, or something anyone can do, I have three questions for you:

    1. Why can’t defenses stop it?
    2. Why don’t other teams use this approach?
    3. How come Russel Wilson couldn’t complete a simple 5 yard pass?

  64. Can the Colts prove they didn’t?

    No? Then guilty until proven innocent

    They only needed 5 seconds

    This was just an attempt by the Colts to distract mid game

    It backfired 45-7

  65. Mcfaddenspulledhammy, do you have a pulled brain muscle? You do know an apology was issued and that story of the Rams walkthru being taped was retracted and proven false right? That story came from the Boston Herald and was almost immediately proven false, but go ahead and keep growing your nose out there Pinocchio. Your tears fuel our Duck boats

  66. hakunamangata says:
    Feb 6, 2015 7:09 PM
    then explain the other 10

    Ummm, what “other 10”???

  67. “Explain the other 10?”

    If you read the article only 1 football was anything more than a tick under

    Gotta love how the haters only hear what they want

  68. I don’t know where the theory started either, but I know that I said that same thing here last Sunday when Rapaport’s story came out that only one ball was underinflated. I’m not Bob Kravitz, so I’m not going to go accusing people without all the facts. I’m just saying it’s a little suspicious that only one ball was grossly underinflated so you can’t rule anything out.

  69. This coming from a team that pumps crowd noise into its stadium and tanks a season to get a number one pick. Yeah, no competitive advantage there. That’s why Pats fans say “everybody does it”, because they do. Now move on, nothing to see here.

  70. Mystery solved. I just watched the evening news and Brian Williams said he deflated the balls. Whew, that’s relief to hear.

  71. If the “one deflated ball” theory ends up being true D’qwell Jacksons comment about the ball not feeling any different when he had it automatically proves the ball was tampered with after the interception. The Colts organization absolutely HATE the New England Patriots so it’s believable they could do this.

  72. I wonder if the folks who’re pointing out that this was floated on a Boston Radio station, realizes that the initial ‘leak’, was leaked by a guy who works for the Indianapolis Star, and an Indianapolis TV station?

  73. I’m amazed at how many people post on this board and don’t even have a clue, or the ambition to get as many facts as possible, before spewing their ill-informed crap!

  74. To all of you haters out there;
    You hate our team, because they’re the best!
    Your hate validate their greatness, and makes the Pats stronger.
    We, as NE fans, embrace it and appreciate it.
    The day you stop hating the Patriots, that’ll be the sign that our team is no longer good. But for now, we’re really enjoying all the success and attention and hopefully, you’ll be hating us for years to come.

    PATRIOTS AND THEIR FANS, EMBRACE THE HATE!

    SUCK IT, HATERS…HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HAAA….! GO PATS!

  75. Man they are good, have a number of conflicting stories about this and guess what, they sweep it under the rug, much like they did with spygate. ****

  76. According to Pats fans, when trying to pin blame on their Pats, absolute PROOF is needed.

    When trying to pin blame on Colts, circumstantial evidence is all that is needed.
    _________________________________________

    The league stated a low amount of proof will be needed when the focus was on if the Patriots tampered. I certainly expect that same standard applies when the tables are turned on the Colts. They had means, motive and opportunity…Colts are toast.

  77. Hey PFT, it started on your site. Look back in the fan post of one of your Deflategate stories during SB week. A fan threw it out in a desperate attempt turn the tables. It felt like grasping at straws then and still feels like it.

  78. The balls were taken away at halftime right? So the pats still scored 28 points with correctly inflated balls and the colts didn’t score any points in the second half.

    Even if the Pats cheated their defense did not’ benefit from the deflated balls.

    I would imagine that all the balls in the SB were in the correct range and they won.

    Everyone is making this out to be a bigger issue than it actually is. The Real issue is that the NFL has rules that it really can’t inforce. The NFL far too often is reacting to situations instead of preventing them.

    If they NFL is going to have a guideline for the PSI in the balls, maybe they should measure and document each ball before the game. I’m sure they can find it in their budget to have someone do this prior to each game.

    If the NFL had proper documentation then this would have never happened. Now it is a bunch of he said she said.

  79. “SAME INTENSITY OTHER DIRECTION!”

    – Michael Irvin to the media in 1998, after he was falsely accused

  80. If Boomer Esiason is correct in his belief that the Ravens and Colts conspired to smear Tom Brady’s career, then there should be at least a half dozen high ranking employees of both teams who should NEVER be allowed anywhere near any NFL function for the rest of their lives (on top of huge fines and loss of draft picks).

  81. First off, we may never know for sure if the official gave the Patriots footballs a squeeze test or truly inflated to 12.5.
    I doubt very much that he would admit in this case to going through the motions. PSI had never been such an issue.
    The footballs could possibly have started out too low.
    The league can spin this anyway they want, go after anyone they want, but doubtful they admit to their own problems with no history of recording PSI or consistency in the way they approve or disapprove footballs.

    Further, the league could clear up a lot by stating what the PSIs were for the 12 balls at the half.
    Instead they have their New York people leaking contradictory information to various media.
    If the Mort report is wrong, and only 1 ball was the outlier rather than 11, really hope that person is found out. Kraft would be well within his right, as well as Brady, to hold that guy responsible for irreparable damage.
    We don’t know. I would tend to believe Rapaport rather than Mort’s source which may be from the Colts or someone with a beef against the Pats, and knows that Mortensen has no love for the Pats, either.

  82. FYI: Brady & Bill are going to be around for another 4-5 years…
    Hoping we get another 3 out of 4 AGAIN!!!

  83. Peyton Manning and Brady went to the competition committee to demand a new rule that each team bring their own footballs. The committee approved.

    Think, if the football balls are supposed to be a standard size, why is there a need to make a rule allowing each team to bring their own football balls?

    Because every quarterback prefers a certain football ball. A preferred football ball = more completions = more points = more fans = more money.

    Thus, the NFL. via a rule change, enabled each NFL qb to have their own custom made football ball for the good ($$$) of the league.

    Forget this nonsense about cheating with deflated balls and forget the fake outrage over these foolish accusations.

  84. Every ball was de-pressurized 1 psi by the 21 degree drop in temperature, from inside to outside. PV=nRT. High school chemistry. Then the Colts took air out of the one they intercepted.

    Colts 12 footballs: 13.5 to 12.5
    1 Pats football: 13.5 to 12.5
    11 Pats footballs: 12.5 to 11.5, then one gets 1 psi taken out by the Colts

    simple

    Mother Nature affected every football, the the Colts helped a little on one, to push their frame-up job.

  85. This fits the fact pattern.

    Only one ball was significantly under the limit; the same ball that Jackson didn’t notice problems, and that sat on the Colts’ sideline in the possession of Colts’ staff for at least 20 minutes.

    We are likely going to find out that 10 of the 12 balls tested between 12 and 12.4, exactly what you would expect in one half of play under those weather conditions.

    This “conspiracy” was manufactured by John Harbaugh, communicated to Ryan Brigsby, and then passed along to the NFL. And both Bob Kravitz and Chris Mortensen fell for it – hook, line, and sinker.

    The NFL isn’t interested in learning this truth, just following along with public opinion and convicting the Patriots without a shred of evidence. The Patriots are expecting an apology but will never get one, and Roger Goodell has managed to alienate his most ardent supporter. Bad move, Rog.

    For all the haters, keep hating. It won’t take away our fourth Lombardi Trophy. But if it makes you sleep better at night, keep the hating on. #youhateuscuzyouaintus

  86. ..this nonsense is so boring. I just want to track now how many NFL players or employees get into legal trouble during the off season. The OVER/UNDER IS 30. And were at 4 arrests and firings already! FUN STUFF.

  87. You idiots that keep returning to the other 10 balls ….can you read, or have your mama read it to you…if the other balls were just a tick under then this story is possible…if the balls had been presented to the officials a tck under and were not messed with after they approved them….you have no cheating…it would fall on the officials to make sure…just like in a bass tournament I can call it 5lbs but it’s up the officials to weigh it….Falcons will end up with a stiffer fine….

  88. Remember that Jackson never said it felt flat. Probably because it wasn’t… yet.

    He only turned it over so that he could keep it later.

  89. I dont care who did what, where when or how.
    Make the game BALLS the League responsibilty.
    I’m sure there are alot of MLB pitchers that don’t like mud rubbed on the game balls, but the MLB does it and the game goes on.
    If qb A likes the ball at 12 psi and qb B likes it 14 and the Legue pumps in 13 PSI, deal with it, they’re making enough money to pay for counseling to get over the trauma.

  90. Noooooooooooo!!!! What will all the haters do with their sad little lives if Belichick, check that, “BELICHEAT”, is not the bad guy?

    This has to be Belicheat’s and Giselle’s Husband’s fault!

    Are you sure there isn’t a video of BB sneak down the Colts tunnel with the ball and handing it to a ball boy, who then goes into a bathroom that “locks from the inside” for 90 seconds, and THEN the ball is turned over to the NFL????

    \sarcasm

  91. hakunamangata says:
    Feb 6, 2015 7:09 PM
    then explain the other 10
    ——————
    Really?

    Brady likes footballs not too hard. Pats inflate to 12.5 as is allowed. When brought outside cold weather causes a slight drop (what? say 1/2 psi? Now the 12 balls are under the limit by 1/2 pound.

    Dequell Jackson gives the ball to the equipment manager whogives it to the guy Kensil. Someone tests the ball too many times, each time it is tested, air is removed. By the time the league gets the ball for testing it is down 2 psi.

    Colts footballs were filled to 13.5 (remember, the limit is 12.5 – 13.5). Cold weather drops it 1/2 psi, just like the Patriots footballs, but because they started out higher, they are within the limits.

    This is one scenario that explains the other footballs. There may be others, but I suspect the answer of every pinhead hater with one hand inside his hands will be, “Pats cheat.” Who needs facts when your hate is so strong.

  92. can someone please check the phone records between the Colts and Ravens leading up to the AFC championship game, something tells me all the info we need will be in these phone calls!

  93. This theory makes perfect sense. The Colts were in cahoots with the Ravens, who were mad at Brady for calling them out. Chuck Pagano and Jim Harbaugh go way back so it’s not out of the realm of possibility that they could have hatched this plan. I hope the NFL finds evidence of this and if they do, I hope they come down incredibly hard on the Colts and they will have to make a public apology to the Patriots. Most reports now are saying ONLY 1 ball was significantly deflated and the others were within the normal PSI range.

  94. Here’s a new theory …

    Everyone and their dog thought Lynch was going to get the ball at the 1/2 yard line EXCEPT Belichick …. hmmmmm.
    How did he know what play was coming … was he listening in?

  95. Predictable, once NE “won” the superbowl, it becomes much easier to create theories/deny/eventually try to sweep it under the carpet. If pats & fans can create & circulate such ridiculous theories & other conspiracy theories against them, then other theories may also be created.

    How about the NFL somehow persuaded/coerced the Seahawks to purposely blow SB XLIX (after placing themselves in a position to show the opportunity to close it out) in order to more easily deter/confuse/minimalize attention away from this happening. Creating for the NE apologists the opportunity to say, “See, we won with everyone watching our pressure, so therefore we obviously had no need to cheat in any other game either”

  96. floratiotime says:
    Feb 6, 2015 7:05 PM
    Makes sense … after his pick they deflated 11 balls. Sure. Right.

    Hey genius do you read the news?? Update homie: Only ONE ball was 2 psi under and that ball was the one taken from the colts player who was lied about saying he said it felt deflated. He openly said the ball was fine and he never said a thing. The other 11 balls were just a few ticks under the minimum or at it.

  97. Yet again, Pats fans out in force. Positive Pats comments = thumbs up, negative comments = thumbs down.

    Demonstrating some semblance of humility would earn you more respect than you could imagine. Try this on for size: “I am a Pats fan. Pats have the highest winning percentage in pro sports during the Brady/Belichick era. Six Superbowls, with 4 rings. That said, I do feel some bit of remorse for their antics. No doubt many teams were video taping other teams, but the Pats got caught. It was not a proud moment for the franchise and I wish they would not have done it. They were punished and they (and the fans) have moved on. Even with Spygate and the other controversies, they’ve shown tremendous reliance in the face of adversity. I will stick with my Pats through thick and thin.”

    You see, humility would earn you respect to go with your success.

  98. brenenostler says:
    Feb 6, 2015 7:31 PM
    There’s one problem with this theory. The Colts should be smart enough to know that the NFL would find the Pats did nothing wrong, if the Colts in fact deflated them. And then who are hey gonna go to once the Pats have been cleared? The Colts
    ——————————-
    Agree. That is EXASCTLY what is happening now, Bro. DeQuell Jackson has said that the ball did feelsoft. He said he gave it to the equipment manager becasue he wanted it kept for a souvenir.

    The pendulem is moving. Haters will remain ignorant of facts or ignore them, but facts are finally coming out.

  99. It’s funny how Florio and company have been slowly and quietly backpedalling away from this story.

    But unlike some others I don’t think Harbaugh and Pagano would be involved in a frame up – if there is a frame up at all…if Rapaport’s info is wrong you can disregard all of my thoughts that follow this — but I will also note that I am a trained investigator and have been involved in many corporate reviews and investigations. And before I continue let me say that many corporate investigations come about because of internal power struggles. I am starting to suspect that may the case here. So let’s play a little “WHAT IF”!

    If this was a frame job I think it is likely that Goodel is the actual target and the Pats are collateral damage. You would have to imagine that with everything going on Goodel has built up enemies within the NFL Office’s Executives. What better way to push his downfall over the edge by driving a wedge between him and one of the league’s most influential owners? The same owner that was the driver behind the new CBA and is the force behind the Network contracts.

    To pull it off you need someone well connected within the NFL Offices, with allies that also don’t support Goodell. Otherwise you get caught. However I think that those involved did not see Goodel’s move of hiring an outside investigator. In all honesty I was shocked that NFL security was not handling this investigation. This is the kind of stuff that they are supposed to investigate. Bringing in an outside investigator tells me Goodell smelled a rat in his own ranks.

    If nothing much comes of this investigation pay careful attention to who leaves their job(s) in the NFL offices over the coming months and up to 18 months from now. That will tell you who was pulling the strings. After all, firing them right away is a dead giveaway that there was a mutiny. You let them hang on to the title but move their power to someone else until they eventually leave with a nice severance to keep quiet.

    Once again, I remind you that this is just speculation based on the idea of Rapaport’s information being accurate. the reality is that at this point we really know very little. Anyone who tries to tell you that the Pats are clearly innocent or clearly guilty is not paying attention to detail.

  100. This is no new theory. Patriots fans have been saying this for the last three weeks. But the media wanted to slander in mislead prior to getting all the evidence.

  101. truthfactory says:
    Feb 6, 2015 7:31 PM
    Colts fan here.

    You guys are the first ones to call into radio stations and call out Alex Rodriguez as “A-Fraud” and Rodger Clemens was cheating and juicing the whole time.

    =================================

    If you had followed Clemens’ history at all you would know that he most certainly was not juicing at all while in Boston. If at all possible, find a picture of him during his last year in Boston and compare it to one during his first year in Toronto. Roger was super motivated to do anything to show up the Red Sox management that he wasn’t washed up.

  102. Only Cheatroits fans and Michigan fans think that Brady and Belicheat never cheated. Josh McDaniels did it with Denver. I wonder where he learned it from. Case closed the Patroits are cheaters and will always be remembered for SPYGATE

  103. I told you!!! This has officially picked up steam!! Yes it’s possible.. PED suspensions, arrests, and a GM who’s trying to Cheat Trent Richardson out 3M. The Colts are one of sneakiest franchises in the NFL. Why do they have Andrew Luck?? They tanked an entire season!! I’m telling you, when you have an el desperado like Irsay, anything’s possible. If true they should suspend the GM, Coach, and Owner for the 2015 season. The distraction could have cost the patriots a championship.

  104. Do you think the World Champion Patriots will score less than 100 against the Colts next season?

    Probably but I wouldn’t bet the house on it.

  105. The guy who intercepted the ball said it felt normal to him, but the Colts get hold of it and turn it in at 2 psi under. You got some splainin’ to do, train wreck Irsay.

  106. It was an nfl employee who released the fact that 10 of the balls were within a tick of 12.5 according to Boomer Esaiason so all the imbecile haters can crawl back into the slime from whence they came.

  107. thefox61 says:
    Feb 6, 2015 8:24 PM
    Ooooooh! I’ve got this!
    It was Professor Plum, in the Billiard Room, with a Lead Pipe!

    Actually, it was the Butler, in the End Zone, with a Pick!

  108. Seeing what Jackson could do to that pizza delivery guy’s neck … I don’t think it’s out of the question he squeezed 2 psi out of that ball once he got his mitts on it.

  109. Applying the principal that any rule change invalidates past Super Bowls and constitutes “cheating” as is the logic of Patriots haters then we have to all accept:

    Vince Lombardi*

    *cheater

    I know it’s silly but the Patriots haters are beginning to sell me on their warped logic

  110. “Or… OR…

    The team that has been known to cheat in the recent past to win Super Bowls… Cheated again to win a Super Bowl.

    There’s no “there” there.”

    How exactly did the Pats cheat in the past to win Super Bowls? I can only assume that you’re referring to the fact that a rule change that went into effect 3 years after their 3rd Super Bowl somehow equals “cheating to win Super Bowls”…….

    A technicality – an amendment that regulates WHERE you can record from, not the fact of whether you CAN record – that was ‘violated’ in 2007 (shortly after the amendment went into place) does not impact SB wins in 01, 03, and 04 no matter how many failed GMs and bitter retired players piss and moan about it

  111. The Patriots were innocent until proven guilty.
    But the Colts are guilty until proven innocent.

    Hypocrite much?

  112. I love how people think that an old man can deflate 12 balls in 90 seconds in a bathroom but think it’s completely outrageous that a suspicious team full of low character individuals had a ball in their possession for 20 minutes and did something wrong. This is the team owned by Jim Irsay with a head coach that came from the Ravens. They’ve pumped in noise, changed rules, turned up the heat, tanked seasons and, now, tried to frame another team.

    For shame, Indianapolis. For shame.

  113. raideralex99 says:
    Feb 6, 2015 8:56 PM

    Here’s a new theory …

    Everyone and their dog thought Lynch was going to get the ball at the 1/2 yard line EXCEPT Belichick …. hmmmmm.
    How did he know what play was coming … was he listening in?
    _________________________________

    go watch Sound FX…the Pats had their goal line D in and pulled a LB off the field and sent Butler in when they saw three receivers in the huddle.

    It was actually a pretty cool little personnel chess match. Carroll first thought he had the mismatch he wanted but the Pats countered it. Carroll took a shot and stayed with the pass play figuring the worst that happens on a 1 yard slant is an incompletion. Browner also did a helluva job jamming Kearse and preventing Butler from getting picked so that he could make that break on the ball.

    I know people are jumping all over Carroll for going with the pass play, but if it worked those same people would be praising him for catching the Pats off guard. It wasn’t a terrible play call. As Carroll said, he thought passing was the best option for second down because it meant the Pats still had to be ready for pass or run on 3rd and 4th down if the pass fell incomplete.

    Regardless, still one of the most memorable Super bowls ever. Phenomenal effort from both teams.

  114. When the Patriots came out firing vehemently with their denials we all knew they were not involved. This was a result of Brady saying in his press conference after the Ravens game they knew the playbook and maybe the Ravens should also regarding the 4 lineman plays. Harbaugh was furious, embarassed and thoroughly outcoached during this game and the only way to get even, other than to win the game, was to nail Brady with the footballs. Notice he didn’t go after Belichick. Harbaugh and Pagano are best of friends and when Jackson makes the interception and gives the ball for safekeeping as a momento the next thing you know its turned over to the NFL. Jackson has clearly stated he didn’t notice anything with the ball and now we find out only one was deflated 2 psi under and it just happens to be that one, well you know how it happened and so does Kraft, Belichick and Brady. The NFL must now punish the Colts severly, nail the Ravens if they can prove the conspiracy and apologize or the lawsuits from the Pats, Belichick, Brady and Gisele will be coming fast and furious!

  115. There is no way the NFL is going to get to the bottom of this. If the Pats or Colts did anything wrong, no one will ever know because a) the measurements weren’t recorded and b) they have no idea which ball was the one that was intercepted. In other news, anyone who thinks that if draft picks are taken away they are going to be given to the other team is an idiot.

  116. I think the prevailing theory now is that none of it makes a bit of difference, and never did.

    Ball variance, from all indications, seems to be business as usual across the NFL, and also from all indications, there is very little exactitude in how the balls are checked, let alone logged. And it seems to work perfectly fine.

    If the NFL really wants to have an iron-clad process for the balls, this will be a great opportunity to implement a new procedure and get every team on the same page. But as a chance to single one team out for doing something wrong, it’s a joke.

    I think this is about the Colts’ GM and an ex-Jets exec, and the NFL also realized that pretty quickly too. I expect new policy language but no punishment. Why would the league want to smear its latest SB winner, with such a trumped-up charge?

  117. It was an nfl employee who released the fact that 10 of the balls were within a tick of 12.5 according to Boomer Esaiason so all the imbecile haters can crawl back into the slime from whence they came.

    ——

    Yup. And Boomer also stated something I didn’t hear anywhere else.

    After the Ravens game, remember when Tom Brady was asked about the illegal receiver play? What did he say? He said that that maybe the Ravens need to read the rule book. Who do you think Tom was directing that to? According to Boomer, it was Coach Harbaugh of the Ravens. Harbaugh was very pissed at that. So, he made a little a phone call..

    Boomer continues on saying Pagano was the DC in 2011 with Harbaugh. And who is the head coach of the Colts? Pagano. And who was the supposed whistler blower? The Colts. All because of Jim Harbaugh getting back at Brady for this comments. These guys know; they all know deflating the ball is not a big deal.

    Just like BountyGate, this deflate business is nothing more than one of the mafiaoso spilling secrets to the public, pissing off their fellow brother for spilling blood. Everybody in the league knew it was common to gamble on how many sacks or tackles you got against this guy or that guy. But the snitch ruined it for everybody else and all those in the league and connected to the league, like the former players on TV, pretend stupid and act like this is the first time this ever happened.

    Same idea with this deflate business. Everyone does it but the Ravens told on the Pats and ruined it for everybody else.

  118. WHEN the pats are found guilty of cheating, I want ALL their draft picks forfeited for the next 2 years !!! Belicheat and shady Brady suspended for next year, and Kraft forced to sell the team and move to LA and re-named the LA Losers !!! the Pats know they cheated, we as fans KNOW they cheated and pats fans try and deflect the issues away from their own cheating team. Woohooo just what the Colts need, ALL the pats draft picks for the next 2 years !!!

    Hate on Colts haters, hate on !!! Colts are THE Classiest league in the NFL, you all wish you could be like us !!!r

    #Onceacheateralwaysacheater #cheatersneverwin #taintedlegacies

  119. You guys are the first ones to call into radio stations and call out Alex Rodriguez as “A-Fraud” and Rodger Clemens was cheating and juicing the whole time.

    ———–

    Clemens was not juicing in Boston, that started when he had moved to the Blue Jays.

    And the nickname A-Fraud is not only for his steroid use, it’s for a whole lot of other reasons too. I bet if I even talk to 100 Yankees fans, I’d find 90 of them who even call him A-Fraud.

  120. I just read what Boomer Essiason said about what he believes the Ravens and Colts did to instigate deflategate and why. These are very gutsy statements by Boomer. Unlike guys like Mortensen an Kravitz he doesn’t say he has the facts and he doesn’t say the Colts deflated the footballs. He doesn’t call for anyone to be suspended or be banned from the NFL. He states he believes they targeted Brady because Brady said the Ravens should read the NFL Rulebook. Boomer will have to into those stadiums and face those organizations.

    How is this unlike the wild accusations against the Patriots? In a number of ways but most importantly he was defending Brady who has been and continues to be under attack.

  121. What’s funny is that the initial report was 11 of 12 balls were illegally deflated. Now that’s not confirmed? I smell a rat and he’s covering up his own poop.

  122. who cares anymore. once the ball or balls were back to normal pressure the Pats scored more points. they still would have won that game even if nothing happened with the balls so how is it tainted. they won and scored more with normal pressured balls.

  123. How is this unlike the wild accusations against the Patriots? In a number of ways but most importantly he was defending Brady who has been and continues to be under attack.

    — dude, I was listening to him as he said it on the radio, not from some transcript. He was not defending Brady. He’s not been known to just say things off the cuff. He’s very reputable and a good guy. But, in no way, was he defending Brady. He was just stating the situation.

  124. WHEN the pats are found guilty of cheating, I want ALL their draft picks forfeited for the next 2 years !!! Belicheat and shady Brady suspended for next year, and Kraft forced to sell the team and move to LA and re-named the LA Losers !!! the Pats know they cheated, we as fans KNOW they cheated and pats fans try and deflect the issues away from their own cheating team. Woohooo just what the Colts need, ALL the pats draft picks for the next 2 years !!!

    Hate on Colts haters, hate on !!! Colts are THE Classiest league in the NFL, you all wish you could be like us !!!r

    #Onceacheateralwaysacheater #cheatersneverwin #taintedlegacies

    ——

    Oh yeah, and you’re doing a good job acting classy, too. Maybe you should act a little more like a QB, a class act instead of a clown.

    By the way, this isn’t twitter. Those hashtags don’t do anything.

  125. Are the Colts dumb enough?

    Let’s see

    Give HOF QB no support for 12 years – check
    Give Luck no support – check
    Trade 1st round pick for bust RB – check
    Get repeatedly blown out by Pats who rinse and repeat the same game plan – check

  126. Oh yeah, and you’re doing a good job acting classy, too. Maybe you should act a little more like a QB, a class act instead of a clown.

    By the way, this isn’t twitter. Those hashtags don’t do anything.

    ———

    Suurrrrrrrrreeeeee, just like ALL the pats fans are acting classy. NOT !!! Pats fans are the epitome of clowns !!! That’s all they know, that’s all they act like !!!

    Once again, Colts are THE classiest team in the league !!!

  127. WHEN the pats are found guilty of cheating, I want ALL their draft picks forfeited for the next 2 years !!! Belicheat and shady Brady suspended for next year, and Kraft forced to sell the team and move to LA and re-named the LA Losers !!! the Pats know they cheated, we as fans KNOW they cheated and pats fans try and deflect the issues away from their own cheating team. Woohooo just what the Colts need, ALL the pats draft picks for the next 2 years !!!

    Hate on Colts haters, hate on !!! Colts are THE Classiest league in the NFL, you all wish you could be like us !!!r

    #Onceacheateralwaysacheater #cheatersneverwin #taintedlegacies

    ——

    Oh yeah, and you’re doing a good job acting classy, too. Maybe you should act a little more like a QB, a class act instead of a clown.

    By the way, this isn’t twitter. Those hashtags don’t do anything.

    ——-

    I wanted to clarify I meant your QB, Andrew Luck, a class act.

    And you want to say cheaters never win? Well, the Pats aren’t saints. We all know that. But they just won. So I guess cheaters do win, huh.

  128. I am sure that Goodell is the one floating that theory he has to protect his buddy Bob Kraft!

  129. The pats haters know the pats cheated and the colts could never do anything like this as they are such honest people just like evey non pats teams in the league

    Rumours of them pumping in sound are just rumours unlike all the concrete facts the haters are running with now

    I mean c’mon Jim irsay would never be a part of something like this, I mean he was only caught high on drugs, with drugs and 29 000 dollars in cash while driving a car. he was such an honest guy that he explained that the 29 000 was because he is generous guy, I for one can tell you I know many generous guys and they all drive around with approx. 30 0000 in cold hard cash

    Hmmm so here is what we know forsure

    -The nfl has nothing or they would have come out already
    -We know the nfl never recorded any psi tests, and based on multiple reports its very often the refs just feel the ball
    -We know the nfl has no recollection of any testing of balls during the game and at halftime in their entire history
    -we know that despite multiple unproven reports, that harbaugh, his ex D coordinator Pagano and dquell Jackson have been linked to the tip off of the balls to the nfl
    -we know harbaugh wants no affiliation to this story and has completey denied any part of it
    -we know the colts said that Dquell noticed after the pick while Dquell says he absolutely didn’t notice any difference
    -we know the ball handed over to the nfl went to at least three different high up (well one was an equipment manager) people before making it to the ex jets employee working for the nfl (no conspiracy theory here, just stating a fact)
    -we know Robert Kraft and belichek ran thier own investigation, handed over all videotapes, one of which was an older man who went into a bathroom with the balls for 90 seconds
    – here is what we can conclude, based on every test of deflating balls guys were doing it within 90 seconds, but not one of them was testing the balls pressure and therefore with this method you would probably not have all the balls exactly the same (my comment on this is I would be surprised someone was so intent on a specific air pressure that he would want them exact)
    -now let’s just assume for a minute the one ball thoery holds true, this means you have a team that truly belives they did nothing (you can’t belive Kraft comes out with that speech if he thinks they did it) they have been cooperating and adamant of thier innocence, handing over maybe the only piece of evidence to even allow a 90 second window where tampering was possible. Now you have the colts, the coach’s ex boss is involved in the story, the team pins it on a receiver who denies it, they have an endless window to tamper as they held and passed the ball around (a lot more then 90 seconds) and the biggest coincidence of them all, that the one deflated ball was the one the colts got thier hands on in the entire batch and the guy who held it first openly stated he did not notice anything wrong with the ball.

    Now you tell me who looks worse in this situation? The pats or the colts

    And that people is why pats fans think this is a witch hunt and why us pats fans think the haters are ridiculous. The hater scenario assumes many unproven rumours while we insert one rumour (the one ball theory) and you get a very vivid picture who is probably wrong here, and yet haters are desperate to start with thier conclusion they desire and build thier facts from there.

  130. lol……..what a cover up….like the guys going to pick a pass and have the his own team members deflate it. No the tainted tom had them deflated. Please come up with something better then that!lol

  131. Smoke and mirrors. Brian Williams meet New England patties. Neither has credibility. The same reasons Williams is in hot water is the same way pasties shod be looked at. Can’t trust either now.

  132. As a Pats fan, I initially dismissed this theory. I figured the Colts could not possibly have deflated that ball, it was just too irrational, and they must have known they would ultimately get caught. I don’t go in for outlandish conspiracy theories, but over the past week I’ve come to believe that it is a plausible theory, and Boomer Esiason’s comments certainly support that. The ball the Colts turned in was significantly underinflated, whereas the others were only marginally below. I’m not willing to convict the Colts at this point, because I want to see all the evidence, but what seemed entirely unbelievable just a week ago now seems to be worth reviewing, so that we can figure out if the impossible really did happen.

  133. SPYGATE/DEFLATEGATE

    1. Add your opinion here…

    2. SPYGATE, DEFLATEGATE, (time for some original conspiracy theories).

    3. Commenters who say the Patriots filmed the Rams walk through practice…SORRY, NEVER HAPPENED.

    4. Commenting irresponsibly without reading ALL of the facts.

    5. Do any of you know that the week after the Patriots got caught “CHEATING” against the Jests, the Jests got caught doing THE EXACT SAME THING?!

    6. Never heard about that…Do what I do…It’s called research…Look it up!

    7. After doing #6. Form your own opinion instead of following trolls..

    I learned.

    Surfin’ The World

  134. Patriots = Best ever at everything

    Your team = Destined for 8-8

    ———

    GREAT POST!

    ALL US FANS OF THE WORLD CHAMPIONS ARE ON TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN. WE LOOK DOWN AND SMILE ON ALL THOSE FANS BENEATH US THAT ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO BE PATRIOT FANS.

  135. The Problem here with all you patriots haters, aside from you looking past facts and believing disproven speculation, is that you let your clear jealousy blind you from logical thought. The major fact here that makes this a very plausible situation is very simple but I wouldn’t expect simple minded morons to think logically. I ask you, cheating is classified as breaking a rule in order to gain a definitive advantage in order to gain. The problem with applying that definition to this story is what advantage does a team gain from deflating one football out of 11 in wet conditions? During a rainy game a team’s footballs are frequently swapped out in order to get a dry ball in the QBs hands. This means the Patriots by deflating ONE ball are only giving themselves a 1:11 chance of getting their “ideal” ball in order to “cheat” into play. This somehow makes sense to you close minded morons, but smart intelligent individuals question this. Why would a team that is trying to cheat make their odds of actually cheating the smallest margin possible? It makes no sense that NE deflated one ball in order to cheat. Also it’s funny that Jackson notices nothing wrong with the ball in question, then it magically becomes 2 PSI low, very convenient for you Pats haters huh? Also to say that rappaport’s report is wrong is idiotic, for the simple fact that Ian works directly for the league, if he divulges false info while working for the league, his paycheck is on chopping block, where mort has nothing to lose by throwing out junk for you pats haters to eat up and regurgitate over and over, even after it’s been proven a complete fabrication. I repeat I don’t expect you pats haters to actually think logically because you’re blinded by jealousy, but no crying once it does come out that the NFL is focusing the investigation on the IND equipment manager. Lastly to the idiot who made a comment about the GM being on the sidelines, wow you a slow, it isn’t hard for a GM to directly talk to his staff on the sidelines, as well as give orders. Just wait, your silence once the shot hits the fan will be music to Pats fans, and I cannot wait for it when you are collectively shut up.

  136. THE PATRIOTS ARE THE PARAGON OF ALL THAT IS GREAT ABOUT THE NFL.

    THE WORLD CHAMPIONS WILL GIVE YOUR TEAM ITS WELL DESERVED BEATING. AND THEN YOU WILL SMILE. BECAUSE IT IS AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO GET WHOOPED BY THE WORLD CHAMPION PATRIOTS.

  137. It’s amazing how the pats fans come out strong to support any comment that makes pats look favorable and go against anything that makes the pats look like the lying,cheating organization that they are. It’s a well known fact that NO ONE outside of New England believes this corrupt organization.

    #proveuswrong

  138. Hollywood couldn’t come up and write this script…NFW!

    NE gets cleared of “DEFLATEGATE.”

    NFL awards NE the Dolts and Skyrats 1st round draft choices.

    Belichick trades down and for the future to insure NE is good for 10 years down the road after he retires.

    You might not like his methods, but he gets results, and wins…

    Off the top of my head I can think of AT LEAST 23 teams who hate NE and Belichick who would sign him up as HC before you could blink your eye!

    I’ll trade Rex for BB right now!

  139. edgarpoe3 says: Feb 6, 2015 7:09 PM

    So a Boston station threw out this theory? It must be true then.

    ———————————–

    Why not? You and everyone else believed the accusations coming from an Indy area “reporter.”

  140. @nepats4n6 says:

    You should work for a network…

    Great comment…Like me, you obviously take your time to examine the facts.

    Koodos…

    Great Post

    Thanks from all the sane people who are REAL football fans…Not just rooters for one team.

  141. colincb says:
    Feb 6, 2015 11:18 PM

    Hopefully Patriots fans will reserve judgment on the Colts/Ravens cheating scandal until all the facts are in.
    _______________________________

    The reality is we know next to nothing at this point. We really don’t even know if Rapaport’s sources are credible. So you really cannot say the Colts deflated the intercepted football. However, you can look at the information and speculate about what might have happened if Rapaport’s sources are correct.

    But as I said earlier, if you claim to know that the Pats definitely cheated or that they are definitely innocent then you are a fool who doesn’t pay attention to details.

    I must admit that I do find it funny that the same people that think someone deflated 12 footballs in 90 seconds also think there is no way that one football got deflated in the 20 minutes that the Colts had it. I also find it funny that many of the same people that were quick to point out that Mort’s sources were not yet substantiated are very quick to grab on to Rapaport’s story as if it were gospel.

    I’ll be honest, I am hoping Rapaport is right. But it is far from a given that he is.

    Lots of hypocrisy on both sides.

  142. Not sure if this has been mentioned yet in this lengthy comment thread (regrettably, I don’t have time to read through all of them) but this whole issue begs the question: Why do both teams each have their own supply of footballs??? Why aren’t all the balls kept under the custody/supervision of and distributed by League officials and/or the officiating crew??? Is the League office so cheap, that they can’t hire someone to do this job???

  143. Next, Patriots will say Dolphins are guilty of spygate, lol. once a cheat always a cheat.
    Patriots need an asterisk by their name since they’re known cheaters, just like they do with baseball players

  144. It’s been almost three weeks since this story came out. I don’t think it takes three weeks to come to a conclusion on something like this. Therefore, the NFL should come out and ban Belichick and Brady for life, strip the Pats of all their Super Bowl wins, wipe out all of their statistics, and contract the franchise.

    I’d enjoy that.

  145. All I will say is this (even if it is long-winded)

    I try to go with the “latest” reports; the latest reports said that out of 12 footballs, 1 was good, 10 were just a hair under, and the other one was super under.

    So if there is ONE *super* under, followed by this report, I honestly don’t know what to think.

    If nothing else it does at the least raise an eyebrow about why 10 of 12 balls were slightly under which is feasible with the cold and the other one in question was so far off that it offers no feasible explanation whatsoever.

  146. nyjetsfan08, sorry but I did listen to Boomer’s interview and he was defending Brady from what he called a coordinated attack by Harbaugh and Pagano. He called the the attack insecure and childish and said it was done in retaliation for Brady saying the Ravens should read the rule book. He said Brady got the last laugh by winning his fourth Super a Bowl and third Super Bowl MVP. On Inside The NFL Essiason said that Brady was the best quarterback in NFL history.

  147. It is a great time to be a PATRIOTS fan! Ah to bask in the glory of their greatness! I remember the 3 win seasons, not seeing home games, and HATING teams like the Steelers, Cowboys, Dolphins, and Bills. So, I feel your pain haters, but I’m going to enjoy this ride while it lasts! Go Patriots, Super Bowl Champions! AGAIN!

  148. Man, this has all the makings of a showtime movie.

    Jackson was forced to deflate the football and that lead to his tumultuous encounter the pizza guy.

  149. kinguga says:
    Feb 6, 2015 11:55 PM
    It’s been almost three weeks since this story came out. I don’t think it takes three weeks to come to a conclusion on something like this. Therefore, the NFL should come out and ban Belichick and Brady for life, strip the Pats of all their Super Bowl wins, wipe out all of their statistics, and contract the franchise.

    I’d enjoy that.

    ________________________________

    Did you run out of Adderall 12er?

  150. The Pats won’t get either of the draft picks that the NFL will take from the Ravens & Colts for collusion to frame the Patriots but when all is said & done I’ll be quite happy with the results of the investigation & the Patriots are exonerated of all wrong doing & the other 2 franchises are tore apart by the media like they attempted to do with the Patriots…correction, World Champion Patriots!!
    Why else could this investigation be taking so long unless there was some really really bad information coming to light as the independent investigation is now getting to the truth on just how dispicable 2 envious organizations had gone to portray the Patriots as the villains when really they are in truth the victims of 2 conniving & putrid franchises that are now to be seen for what they truly are!!!
    Mr Kraft , you have Roger on line one…

  151. No records were kept, the refs reinflated the balls at the half, so everything is conjecture. That Harbaugh went from calling BB a borderline cheater to slurping him a week later points to the truth IMO. But as there’s NOTHING to support either theory so the league handles all balls from beginning of game to end from now on. Privately, Kraft gets his apology if Baddell wants to survive (where do you think the real power is) and Iray, Grigson and the D’Olts! special teams coach all get a stern reminder, but in private. Why? because the league comes off worst in this, with its leaking Jets employee spewing garbage. At least he gets fired: good riddance.

  152. Another asterisk will be added to this Super Bowl win along with all the others New England has won in the Belicheat era. They only win when they cheat.

  153. ..at 1st I though the maid did it with a lead pipe in the living room…BUT know we all know it was the Butler , with the great hands, in the arizona dome ,who committed the Seahawks murder.

  154. The theory is: A deflated ball makes it easier to grip…. The FACT is, that Stickum makes the ball easier to grip. Jerry Rice ADMITS to using Stickum. Where’s the ESPN outrage? Mike Greenberg… why aren’t you shrieking at the top of your lungs about Rice?

    Answer: Because this has always been about taking a cheap shot at the Pats. And, NO ONE with a brain gives a crap about what a ballplayer does to get a better grip on a football.

  155. coltsfan4yfe says:
    Feb 6, 2015 10:03 PM

    WHEN the pats are found guilty of cheating, I want ALL their draft picks forfeited for the next 2 years !!! Belicheat and shady Brady suspended for next year, and Kraft forced to sell the team and move to LA and re-named the LA Losers !!! the Pats know they cheated, we as fans KNOW they cheated and pats fans try and deflect the issues away from their own cheating team. Woohooo just what the Colts need, ALL the pats draft picks for the next 2 years !!!

    Hate on Colts haters, hate on !!! Colts are THE Classiest league in the NFL, you all wish you could be like us !!!r

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

    Hey, Look! Jim Irsay posts on this board!

  156. kinguga says:
    Feb 6, 2015 11:55 PM

    It’s been almost three weeks since this story came out. I don’t think it takes three weeks to come to a conclusion on something like this. Therefore, the NFL should come out and ban Belichick and Brady for life, strip the Pats of all their Super Bowl wins, wipe out all of their statistics, and contract the franchise.

    I’d enjoy that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>.

    It takes longer to investigate three teams…Pats, Colts and Ravens.

    If the conspiracy theory is actually found to be true, Colts should lose 3 draft picks and be fined $1 million, and the Ravens should lose 1 pick and be fined $500,000.

    Oh, and Andrew Luck probably won’t extend his contract…why would he want to be associated with this cheating organization?

    Nice job, Grigson….another fine mess.

  157. NEW THEORY CREATED BY THE DEFLATERIOTS NO DOUBT. SAY, ISN’T IT TIME TO TAKE DRAFT PICKS, AND SUSPEND BRADY OR BELICHEAT,OR BOTH FOR NEXT SEASON? TIME TO PUT THE HAMMER DOWN ON THIS CORRUPT FRANCHISE!

  158. CHEATING=THE PATRIOT WAY!

    ALL KRAFT HAS TO DO IS OPEN UP HIS WALLET OR THREATEN GOODELL TO MAKE THINGS GO AWAY LIKE HE ALWAYS DOES!

    THIS PATRIOT ORGANIZATION STINKS FROM TOP TO BALL BOY!

  159. For those saying about the other ten if they are only slightly a tick under and that one ball was the only one really deflated yes gotta wait for the facts to come out.

  160. Not exactly a new theory. As soon as the report came out that the only significantly deflated ball was the one in the Colts possession, there were a lot of people (and a number of comments on this site) questioning whether the Colts may have had something to do with it.

  161. I would like to interject a little sanity,if I may.The rest of the trolls can skip the remainder of this post.
    …………………………………………………………………………People just don’t listen to anything and God help you if they are put on a jury to decide someones fate.That being said,here it is.First off,the NFL has reviled that only ONE ball was “missing” 2 p.s.i. It was the intercepted ball that went to the Colts sideline/locker room for 20 minutes.(that’s normal) the remainder of the balls were only down a couple of ticks,which is really a non issue. The Colts were handed a crushing defeat, IF you watched the game.They were embarrassing and that is not the only crushing defeat at the hands of the Patriots this year.Patriots have never been proven to cheat(the pure definition) at anything.If you are thinking of Spygate,forget it.They filmed a live game from the wrong spot in the stadium and the cameraman had the wrong color vest on,now if that is “cheating”,then I cannot help you and I feel sorry for you.And as far as SB 49 goes,Seattle is very lucky to have lost by only 4 points.Lastly,watch out for #5, Brady/Belichick,they still have it going!

  162. I really cannot believe this is still a thing.

    Spygate was stupid. Bountygate was even more stupid. Deflategate is the stupidest yet.

    NEWS FLASH: EVERY TEAM, IN SOME WAY OR OTHER, ENGAGES IN AGAINST-THE-RULES-ACTIVITIES TO GAIN ADVANTAGES IN GAMES.

    How can this still be a story?

  163. A guy thrilled by his play to intercept a pass doesn’t give a hang about how the ball feels. Check those game cams, fellows. Wouldn’t surprise me at all to see a Colts’ ball boy sticking a needle in there.

    As a practical matter, how in the heck did the NFL place the integrity of ball inflation into the hand of opposing teams? They don’t have each side mark the field, do they? Get real guys and handle the balls yourself…including the ones the kickers use.

  164. Why can’t it be possible for someone to have paid some off? I’m not saying it was the Colts, it could have been anyone (like any of the other 30 teams who hate the Patriots). I hope some people a whole lot smarter than all of us armchair qb’s thought of that already!

  165. Does anyone else remember Pélé? Brazilian FOOTBALL stud. All the American yahoos, who are nothing but unathletic fat kids whose parents won’t take responsibility for, are pitiful athletes. So much so that this “deflategate” buffoonery precedes the “sport’s” championship? Another example of America “”not getting it.” Athletic competition should be won on the field, not in some genius’ hoody.

  166. The Colts are the biggest cheaters in the league – they PIPED IN CROWD NOISE for years – there’s tons of articles about that

    And now they are in an era where they PURPOSEFULLY THREW GAMES to SUCK FOR LUCK

    Any Super Bowl they won or win is tainted #ColtsCheat

  167. This is completely plausible, and one I tend to believe more than the Patriots doing something after the fines and trouble they have gone through.

  168. Pumping in crowd noise, screwing with the visiting locker room temperature, and now this. Do the Indianapolis Mayflowers have no shame?

  169. I find it hilarious that the haters will believe the anonymous source who said 11 of 12 balls were under inflated by 2 psi but refuse to believe the anonymous report that it was only one ball that was 2 psi under and the other 10 were only a “tick” under. And then they slam anyone on the Patriots side as being crazy.

    Nobody floated this theory. It wasn’t a fan or a talk show host who floated this theory. This was another anonymous report who said that the ball that was 2 psi under was the ball intercepted by the Colts. The only question being asked was that if 10 balls were just a “tick” under, then how come the ball the Colts turned in was 2 psi under. It’s not like they turned it in right away after the interception either. The ball was in their possession for about 30 minutes.

    Haters wanted to claim a ballboy deflated 11 balls in 90 seconds, but can’t believe an equipment manager couldn’t deflate one in 30 minutes? Haters will say, “Yeah, but he couldn’t have done it in full view of everyone.” Well, haters claim Belichick spied in full view of everyone.

    If the haters would simply do their research on who is behind the investigation into deflategate and even read the rules on videotaping instead of regurgitating anonymous reports, they might learn something.

  170. PATRIOTS = CHEATERS!! Proven fact…since Bellacheat and Shady Brady have been on that team. Brady wouldn’t start on any other team in the NFL. Fact. He isn’t any better than Matt Cassell.

  171. This isn’t even a new theory. It’s been out there since before the SB when it was noted that the only ball that was strangely deflated was the one that the Colts had. Every other was was “a few ticks” below the minimum.

    It’s that easy. 1 ball which the Colts had was 2psi below. All the others were barely below.

    You tell me how that works out…

  172. edgarpoe3 says: Feb 6, 2015 7:17 PM

    Deep down New England fans know the Patriots cheated; playing make believe is just one way of coping with it.

    ———————————————–

    You’re on drugs if you believe that.

  173. Can’t trust Goodell and certainly can’t trust the Bellichick and the Patriots. What I’ve learned in the NFL is that the Patriots will push the rules to their limit and sometimes a little beyond and the NFL commissioner is going to handle disciplinary actions/investigations with absolutely zero consistency. This one time ardent fan is now apathetic when it comes to the NFL. Used to not miss a Sunday…now I could take it or leave it.

  174. billswillnevermove says:
    Feb 7, 2015 8:35 AM
    PATRIOTS = CHEATERS!! Proven fact…since Bellacheat and Shady Brady have been on that team. Brady wouldn’t start on any other team in the NFL. Fact. He isn’t any better than Matt Cassell.

    ———–

    A delusion is a belief held with strong conviction despite superior evidence to the contrary. As a pathology, it is distinct from a belief based on false or incomplete information, confabulation, dogma, illusion, or other effects of perception.

  175. kevhurls says:
    Feb 7, 2015 7:32 AM
    Does anyone else remember Pélé? Brazilian FOOTBALL stud. All the American yahoos, who are nothing but unathletic fat kids whose parents won’t take responsibility for, are pitiful athletes. So much so that this “deflategate” buffoonery precedes the “sport’s” championship? Another example of America “”not getting it.” Athletic competition should be won on the field, not in some genius’ hoody.

    ———

    Wow… You schooled everyone. Why are you even posting here? Just so you know, if great american athletes start caring about soccer, your precious game will be dominated by them.

  176. IF we ever get a response from the NFL with the truth, I think this story is the most probable for one simple fact: Kraft, Belichick and Brady have stated multiple times to national media that they did not do it. If there was any possibility that they did do it, coming out so strong and then be proven that they lied would bring their downfall. I don’t think they’d be that stupid.

    No…I think they knew all this and came out strong knowing eventually this truth would emerge.

    Watch and learn people

  177. ryangralinski says:
    Feb 7, 2015 6:13 AM

    For those saying about the other ten if they are only slightly a tick under and that one ball was the only one really deflated yes gotta wait for the facts to come out.
    _________________________________

    You mean the same way people waited for confirmation of Morts’ information before demanding the Pats face fines/suspensions/removal from the Super Bowl?

    I see nothing wrong with speculation on the latest “news” as long people do realize that info from a source in not necessarily fact and evolve their opinions as new info comes out.

    As I’ve repeatedly said, if at this point you believe that either the Pats definitely cheated or definitely did cheat then you are a fool, as there is not yet enough confirmed information to support either claim.

  178. …there are people who believe that,” Schefter said. “I know there are people who believe that. . . . I’ll just say, I’m not even going to specify, there are people who believe that.”

    SO…THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THAT?

  179. kevhurls says:
    Feb 7, 2015 7:32 AM

    Does anyone else remember Pélé? Brazilian FOOTBALL stud. All the American yahoos, who are nothing but unathletic fat kids whose parents won’t take responsibility for, are pitiful athletes. So much so that this “deflategate” buffoonery precedes the “sport’s” championship? Another example of America “”not getting it.” Athletic competition should be won on the field, not in some genius’ hoody.
    ___________________________
    I don’t know for sure, but I’m guessing you are British. They are obsessed with us. I can’t read a post from anyone who is British without them taking shots at Americans. An obsession, I tell you. And if our athletes are pathetic, why do they always kick butt in the Olympics? For example, Americans won 104 medals in the 2012 Olympics. 46 were gold, 29 silver, and 29 bronze. Great Britain won 65 medals: 29 gold, 17 silver, 19 bronze. Of course, we don’t do so well in SOCCER, which is boring game not even comparable to our American football. That’s because the larger percentage of the best American athletes go to other sports.

  180. Harbaugh denied any involvement and said he called Pagano to make sure no one else on his staff was involved in deflategate. The problem for Harbaugh is that Pagano in a videotaped interview said in the week leading up to the Patriots game that he spoke in detail with the Ravens about the about the Patriots substitutions. So, has anyone pulled a Chris Collinsworth and asked both Harbaugh and Pagano to look them in the eye and tell them that there was no way they told anyone or that anyone could have interpreted that they should ask the NFL to investigate Brady? Excuse me, Harbaugh is on videotape after the Ravens Pats game saying he is sure the NFL will investigate the substitutions. Just maybe, when the NFL refused to do so Jim found another way to get back at the Patriots.

  181. Sound like team Obama may be running interference here, isolate, denigrate, point the finger and then just run with it.

    If the Patriots had 11 ball with <2 psi under specifications how can the only ball now with low air pressure be the one the Colts had, Telepathy.

    The balls all had electronic master/slave valves (installed at the Wilson factory-by Colts plant)that were all in sync with each other and when the pressure of one ball is reduced they all correct to the new pressure, the one ball that did not correct was the ball in play at the time the Colts equipment manger deflated the master ball, the ball in play was in flight and the inball receiver was revolving at 32 rpms at 24.642 MPH and could not receive the signal, and therefore was the only ball with in specs. If Brady would have thrown a ball with 18 RPM at less that 23.750 MPH the inball receiver would of corrected to the Colts equipment manger ball and all would have been in sync.

    Glad we solved that mystery.

  182. Let me be the first to break the true story –

    It was Don Shula.

    He was the elderly man with the bag of balls in the hallway that took them into the rest room and deflated them.

    “Belicheat! Belicheat! HAAA HAAA HAAA!”

  183. It actually is the only LOGICAL explanation.

    The football the colts had was the only ball under 2psi.
    The ten or eleven other balls were all under an average deflation of 0.5 psi.

    Any unbiased investigator would IMMEDIATELY know that the burden of guilt is upon those individuals who ‘Have an axe to grind’, Jealous, Hateful, Envious towards the innocent party that is being falsely accused.

    Mother Nature – SCIENCE – Has already declared WORLDWIDE that the PATRIOTS did nothing wrong – ABSOLUTELY no breaking of Rule 17.

    All fingers now point to the Colts. Just as LOGIC, SCIENCE and JUSTICE agree!

    You reap what sow HATERS!

  184. And, for all of you guys that like to sprinkle in a little “liberal” and “Massachusetts” into your posts, terms you think are epitaphs, into your posts, Boomer Esiason is a Republican who defended Chris Christie’s omnipresence in Jerry Jones’ suite during post-season games. Boomer will not only be scorned in Indy and Baltimore for speaking out; he will feel the heat in New York for supporting anything Patriots. I don’t always agree with Boomer but he is one of the most decent human beings associated with the NFL, on and off the field and his sincerity is beyond reproach.

  185. There is as much evidence for this as there is that the Patriots did it.

    NFL, just end this story. Just come out and say only one was 2 psi under. Admit that it could have been a combination of colder weather, rain, going inside and outside for “the investigation”. Reference some kickers back in the day talking about the nearly deflated footballs they were stuck kicking in Green Bay and the such.

    Then just come out and say that next year that the refs will have complete control of the balls. Not too prevent natural deflation, but just to end conspiracy theories.

  186. I’ve mentioned am a professional investigator previously. This morning I met a peer to look over case notes on something he is working on for a client. After going through those our conversation turned to this situation as part of a hypothetical what if game, and where would we be looking next.

    So, the two latest stories relevant to Deflategate have come from Rapaport and the NY Time. The NY Times article was indeed factual and the physicist original quoted as saying the deflation in question could not have occurred naturally admitted a calculation error. He admitted this error after he was asked to vet a study from a Carnegie grad student. That study also factored in calculation for wet footballs, this was another error from the original physicist as he did not factor that in. That physicist was quoted in the article as saying the CMU grad student’s tests looked solid.

    So, at least some natural deflation of the football was possible if not likely.

    the other release was Rappaport’s story. At the the very least this brings us back to a chain of custody issue (which many people raised before Mort said all 12 balls were 2psi under).

    Now, presumably the investigation is still going. that means that so far they don’t have a definitive answer. But the would have working theories to guide them. If the Rapaport story is correct about the psi levels then we would be pursuing several possibilities at this point:

    1. The locker room attendant- conduct follow up interviews to look for inconsistencies from the prior interview. This is necessary as we know there was approximately a 90 second window where this person had the footballs in a privacy

    2. Colts involvement- interviews w. coaches, equip staff, D. Jackson and GM Grigson. This is necessary as there is a chain of custody issue if the one football the colts reported was the only one 2 psi under (this may not be necessary if Rapaport’s info is incorrect)

    3. Walt Anderson. Natural deflation still a likely cause and the one ball variance could simply be the result of WA not properly checking the footballs despite statements to the contrary. (Regardless of the veracity of the Rapaport story this still needs revisiting) We have Belichick on record saying they do not fill the footballs before hand but request the balls to be filled to 12.5 by the officials. Equipment used to fill footballs to must also be checked to see variances in deflation rates between pump types.

    At this point in time, given the most recent information and taking it as correct, the 3 scenarios above are what we’d be looking into. Any of these 3 or even a combination of the above items is possible. And this is why almost 3 weeks later the investigation has not yet been finished.

    Bottom line: Pats fans – pump the brakes, pats are not in the clear yet. Colts fans – be a little nervous, there may be something there. Pats haters – pump the brakes as there may be nothing there at all.

    At this point, we just don’t know for sure. And if you think you do, you’re a fool.

  187. NFL is desperately trying to bury this rather tahn properly address it.

    If they throw smoke out there they can pretend they don’t know what happened and then they’ll destroy the evidence.

    Baffle them with a Doug Baldwin TD celebration.

  188. Common. They suspect the ball guy did it. Take the balls into the john, come out and only the Pats ones are low on air.
    How about we finally do a lie detector test on these guys. Get it over with so we can move on the the draft.

  189. Right, then deflated ten more balls. Plus the CIA killed Kennedy, vaccines cause autism, GMOs are harmful, aliens are among us, pop rocks and Coca-Cola killed a guy, Obama is a muslim, minimum wage increases won’t lead to inflation and higher unemployment, and saying “candyman” five times in a mirror invokes him. Please…

  190. Patriot fans used to laugh at Bills fans about defending OJ Simpson. Look who is laughing now.
    Patriot fans are now doing the “why slow ride getaway”.

  191. Wow…There are some pretty lame supposed PIs adding their input.

    They completely ignore the most critical of the evidence. The Patriots likely DID NOT DEFLATE balls for only one game. This is likely a pattern of abuse. The colts suspected this in November.

    Bellichek tells you he researched stitches, he researched how many PSI increase when they rub the balls up. Yet, all of that makes no difference because the ball boy delivers the ball to the correct spec to the Refs. Everything Bellichek said is meaningless, except for the Patriot fans and supposed PIs who want to confuse the issue and chase rabbit trails.

    Sheesh…is it any wonder Bellichek did this? He knew he could get away with it.

  192. Thank you Mr. Smith for mainataing an objective point of view. Its about time somebody stood up and decided to review this witch hunt and think that its a big misdirection effort to discredit the pats organization. I mean especially before the superbowl. That would be an all time low. Anyhow thanks.

  193. I mean its not like the Colts are some squeaky clean organization, the whole suck for luck deal, drug dealing at times incoherent owner. I mean they are no angels.

  194. I’m sure it came from Kraft. I’m also sure nothing will come of this. Frankly, this is becoming quite the joke, NFL should just strip NE of their superbowl and a draft pick or two and move on.

  195. …..so please explain the other 10 balls that were under inflated, and the video.

    Like i have said before , for Pats fan denial is a river in Egypt…….

  196. Too funny..

    This is just like the Bills fans claiming that Ron Goldman killed OJ’s wife and then turned the knife on himself. The Patriots like OJ were there, but not involved.

  197. Modern news is nothing but quotes and speculation and opinion. Rarely is anything KNOWN reported. By the time the truth is known and reported the story is old and dried up and nobody cares anymore – their opinions have already been shaped by the prior speculation/opinions.

  198. To all of you immediately declaring this impossible because there were 10 other balls under inflated, you are still carrying on a falsehood from the beginning of the fake conspiracy. ONLY 1 Ball was under-inflated (The one the colts themselves turned in) while the other 10 were just under by a tick, which even Bill Nye will agree is very possible if not LIKELY to happen to the balls in those extreme weather fluctuations. They never took a reading before the game, they never confirmed the Colts balls were also not a tick under, they simply went off what the Colts wanted investigated.

    You know, if people are allowed to accuse, actually not even accuse but declare that the Patriots are cheaters, then by all means we should declare a man like Irsay guilty as well. He is a man who lied outright to the people of Baltimore/National Media before running away in the middle of the night like a cowardly thief, as well as busted for DUI/Drug Abuse and lying to the cop (with a letter from the cop stating he truly believes this owner needs help mentally and medically). So he should be declared guilty of this crime outright, correct? Wait we don’t believe conspiracy theories unless it is about the Patriots? Oh yeah, double standard IS the standard in this league. But hey we only hold the Patriots to past incidents as proof of current guilt.

  199. There was no “spygate”, spies don’t stand out in front of 80 thousand people spying, there was no Rams walk through tape. Johan Tomase of Boston Herald didn’t verify his sources and later had to apologize. Patriots placed their cameras in the wrong place on the field, that’s it. You can’t blame the whole organization on the act of one person. None of the players were involved nor any of the coaches. So there is no scandal there. As far as under inflated footballs, that’s a soap opera with more to came, let the facts come out first.

  200. Colts tampering with intercepted football is the only LOGICAL explanation.

    The football the colts had in their possession for 20 minutes was the only ball found to be under 2psi.
    The ten or eleven other balls were all under an average deflation around 0.5 psi.

    Any unbiased investigator would IMMEDIATELY know that the burden of guilt is upon those individuals who ‘Have an axe to grind’, Jealous, Hateful, Envious towards the innocent party that is being falsely accused.

    Mother Nature – SCIENCE – Has already declared WORLDWIDE that the PATRIOTS did nothing wrong – ABSOLUTELY no breaking of Rule 17.

    The fingers of LOGIC, SCIENCE and JUSTICE now point to the Colts as the main suspect.

    You reap what you sow HATERS!

    Kraft should offer a $1 Million Dollar Reward to anyone who will come forward from the Colts, with the truth, of who let the air out of the intercepted ball.

  201. AFC Championship Game Colts vs PATRIOTS
    Brady & Pats rack up 17 points in first half, Brady realizes ‘Hey! Underinflated footballs cost me an interception and 7 points. Damn if I will let that happen again,’ and so Pats inflate footballs to proper NFL specs. RESULTS Pats 28 – colts 0 in second half.
    Now it gets even BETTER – Eve of Super Bowl XLIX
    Tom Brady calls Aaron Rodgers and asks for advice on beating the Seahawks. Rodgers says ‘Listen Tom, just overinflate the balls to 14psi, the way I like them, and you will win – TRUST ME & RELAX!
    Superbowl XLIX– 1st HALF – All footballs are proper NFL specs, Dammit – Brady still gets intercepted.
    2nd HALF – Brady sneaks in a 14psi football (signed by Aaron Rodgers) and scores 14 unanswered points in fourth quarter to win the game!
    Brady texts Rodgers – “IT WORKED – THANKS”
    Don’t believe me? Rodgers was there at the game – PROOF!
    Well it is PROOF according to your tainted jealous filled condemnation of the New England Patriots.
    4X SUPERBOWL CHAMPIONS and COUNTING!!!
    GO PATS!
    P.S. Aaron Rodgers signed the 14 psi football so Brady & the Ball Boy knew which one to grab (laughing at you Lynch) when it came to 4th Quarter Crunch Time!

  202. Patriots conspiracies are getting silly. Rapoport use to work for the patriots so to say he is unbiased is wrong and it is funny how when reports come out that pats fans don’t like it is unconfirmed hearsay but when a report comes out that pats fans like it is gospel truth.
    What rapoport said was that 1 ball was 2 lbs under, a few were 1 lb under and a few were just a few ticks under.
    He did not say all but one were a few ticks under.
    The league could had finished this investigation in a few days like they first said but their cash cow bowl was coming up and if the league had said the patriots balls were deflated that would make brady a liar and a huge outcry would happen to DQ the patriots so the league is waiting for everyone to forget about deflate gate and then rule on it then give the patriots a little slap on the wrist like with spy gate and then business as usual. We know goodell and kraft are good friends so he is covering for his cheating dynasty.
    What the league should had done was interviewed Brady and other immediately after it was found that the balls were deflated and then DQed the patriots and had the colts play in the Super Bowl but the name of the game is money and covering our behinds since the league has been so incompetent with dealing with scandals like Ray rice and Peterson. Sad day for genuine football fans

  203. I wish all you pats fans would quit trying to change these haters minds. The more haters the better. It just makes every win that much better, knowing that they’re going to bed crying every night, dreaming their losing team could ever be even a fraction as good. 😤😭

  204. and then DQed the patriots and had the colts play in the Super Bowl

    The Colts failed to show up for the AFC Championship, what makes you think they would have showed for the Super Bowl?

    You just wanted another team to lay down for the legion of goons like the Broncos did.

    Sorry.

  205. remember Pélé? Brazilian FOOTBALL stud

    That’s the sport where they take dives all the time, right?

  206. I love the fact Pats fans think they have a legitimate team. Kinda like children believing in Santa Claus. Cute…

  207. Colts tampering with intercepted football is the only LOGICAL explanation.
    The football the colts had in their possession for 20 minutes was the only ball found to be under 2psi.
    The ten or eleven other balls were all under an average deflation around 0.5 psi.
    Any unbiased investigator would IMMEDIATELY know that the burden of guilt is upon those individuals who ‘Have an axe to grind’, Jealous, Hateful, Envious towards the innocent party that is being falsely accused.
    Mother Nature – SCIENCE – Has already declared WORLDWIDE that the PATRIOTS did nothing wrong – ABSOLUTELY no breaking of Rule 17.
    The fingers of LOGIC, SCIENCE and JUSTICE now point to the Colts as the main suspect.
    You reap what you sow HATERS!
    Kraft should offer a $1 Million Dollar Reward to anyone who will come forward from the Colts, with the truth, of who let the air out of the intercepted ball.

  208. #1 AFC Team beat the #1 NFC Team

    *BRADY’S #4 OFFENSE beat the Seahawks #1 DEFENSE

    *BRADY & PATS the ONLY Team in NFL History to win the Super Bowl when behind ten points or more in fourth quarter.

    Super Bowl XLIX NFL Records – *BRADY 37 completions

    Most first downs passing game, 21, *Tom Brady

    Love those *

  209. #1: Unsubstantiated recording of PSI by the NFL Officiating crew, not only in this game but in all other previous games, as the NFL has zero policy on proper scientific standards of recording.
    #2: Inaccurate/false leaking of information
    #3: NFL Rules seek to prevent unfair advantage in a game – Rule 17 was not broken/violated in the AFC championship since it was PROVEN beyond a shadow of a doubt that ALL the footballs on both teams had zero impact on the outcome of the game.
    #4: 5th Grade Science as well as college science dictates loss of air pressure as temperature drops. DUH – We all know this with pure scientific observation of our tires losing air pressure from cold temps every winter – DUH
    #5: Defamation of Character is a SERIOUS CRIME people – wake up Haters and smell the stink of your own biased self righteous bigotry.
    #6: UNFAIR ADVANTAGE was given to he Seahawks via two weeks of false reporting by the NFL, news media and general public believing the reported errors and misinformation.
    #7: Goodell hires high priced law firm to ONLY investigate the Patriots thus creating a smear campaign started by the colts – who by the way – had possession of the ONLY football under 2psi.
    #8: Defamation of Character/ Slander is a CRIME but this is of no concern to Goodell. It is a fact that Goodell feels he can breake the rules by not doing an impartial fact gathering analysis from BOTH teams while LEAKING false info to the news media that slanders/defames the Patriots. – These are the FACTS !!!

  210. Surprised this theory wasn’t published sooner. Certainly is more practical to deflate one ball than 11 balls while going from official locker room to the field. Also would be consistent with the Colts organization. For those of you that may remember, Colts have a history of crying wolf. Years ago they requested a rule change after they were beaten up in the playoffs. Their President, Polian, who sits on the rules committee pushed the change now known as “illegal contact”. According to the Bleacher Report “Polian is on the NFL’s competition committee and as such is in a position to help change the league’s rules. Is it a coincidence that the NFL started changing rules left and right to favor offense in the last decade, approximately the same time that the Colts got their hands on franchise quarterback Peyton Manning?”

  211. I get that the fans of other teams are sick and tired of having the Patriots succeeding when their favorite team can not. But, I find it humorous that so many of the Pats haters insist that the Patriots have a long history of cheating. Exactly when was it that they cheated?

    The definition of cheating (in a football context, not cheating on your girlfriend) should be: Intentionally breaking a rule (or rules) to gain an unfair advantage over your opponent. To be cheating you have to break a rule, and you have to do it intentionally.

    Spygate was definitely not a case of cheating. Yes, they broke a rule, and that rule says that you are not allowed to have any video equipment on the field, in the coaches box, or in the locker room during the game.

    Even though the ignorant haters all think they got busted and fined for “stealing signs”, it is NOT against any rule to video tape your opponent giving signs. Of course the league did not make any effort at making it clear why they were fining the Patriots, and the fact that the commissioner imposed the huge fines ($750k altogether) under rule 17.2 “Extraordinary Unfair Acts”, which is incontestable, and made solely at the discretion of the commissioner, did not help in that regard.

    To this very day, you can still video tape your opponent giving signs, you just need to do your video taping from inside an enclosed video booth with walls and a roof per the rules. The intent of that rule is to prevent the team from benefiting from the video during the game in play, which was never really in question in the case of Spygate.

    Belichick and the Patriots staff clearly did not understand that (new at the time) rule, else they would not have had their team videographer standing on the sideline in full Patriot team gear, with the camcorder. If they were trying to cheat, don’t you suppose they could have hidden the guy or the camera a little better? Because the rule breaking was not intentional, it fails the true test of being “cheating”.

    The reported video taping of a Rams walk through was a total fabrication, and was immediately retracted by the Herald. It never happened, but the haters missed the retraction because it doesn’t support their position.

    And now it appears most likely that there was no intentional deflating of the footballs before the AFC playoff game with the Colts, contrary to all the initial speculation and hate.

    The limited evidence we do have now is somewhat condemning of the Colts, but there are certain other plausible explanations. The most tenable one right now is that the Refs never actually checked the ball pressures before that game because, frankly… it had never been an issue before. They say they have no recorded values, which would be consistent with them having used a squeeze check.

    Once the accusations had been made during the game, they did check them at halftime and found the pressures of the Pat’s balls were all over the place. One was above the 12.5 psi minimum spec, some “a few ticks” (ounces) low, and some others were 11.5 psi low. All of those 11 balls would have been at or above 12.5 psi in the warm locker room before the game.

    The only ball that was 2 psi low was the one that the Colts equipment manager grabbed after the Jackson interception and surreptitiously conveyed to the league.

    How did that ball become deflated? We may never know, but having one of the Pats balls deflated does not suggest cheating by the Patriots.

    Unless or until there is additional hard evidence that implicates the Colts did something to that ball, I would give them the benefit of the doubt and say that the ball was 2 psi low when Jackson picked it off. The reason he wouldn’t notice that is because it is very hard to feel a 2 psi difference unless doing a side by side comparison.

    But why the Colts took the actions that they did after they judged the ball pressure to be low is a matter of question. What did they hope to gain by passing the ball along (for a long period of time) to the league rather than just notifying a field official right then? Something about their actions doesn’t smell right, and I would hope that this part of the story is investigated and reported on further. They may not have technically “cheated”, but there was certainly some pretty extreme unsportsmanlike conduct going on there.

  212. Cheaters just can’t win any SB any time without a cheating controversy.
    Yeah, they cheated just like they did the other three times. Otherwise they wouldn’t have even been in the SB.

  213. I think the colts should move back to Baltimore
    The Ravens should move back to Cleveland
    And the *Browns should move to Los Angeles

    And the new LA team gets three picks from the Ravens and colts

  214. patriotsdefense says:
    Feb 6, 2015 10:43 PM
    If the Colts are found guilty say goodbye to that 2015 1st round pick.

    ———————————————————————

    That, and take away Irsay’s pile of coke and painkillers. Give them to the Colts defense so they don’t surrender 45 points to the Patriots every game.

  215. Guilty of draining air from the Pats balls? (sorry giggling here) Everything about the Pats is now under a cloud of suspicion, nothing will change that nor should it…

  216. #1: Unsubstantiated recording of PSI by the NFL Officiating crew, not only in this game but in all other previous games, as the NFL has zero policy on proper scientific standards of recording.
    #2: Inaccurate/false leaking of information
    #3: NFL Rules seek to prevent unfair advantage in a game – Rule 17 was not broken/violated in the AFC championship since it was PROVEN beyond a shadow of a doubt that ALL the footballs on both teams had zero impact on the outcome of the game.
    #4: 5th Grade Science as well as college science dictates loss of air pressure as temperature drops. DUH – We all know this with pure scientific observation of our tires every winter – DUH
    #5: Defamation of Character is a SERIOUS CRIME people – wake up Haters and smell the stink of your own biased self righteous bigotry.
    #6: UNFAIR ADVANTAGE was given to he Seahawks via two weeks of false reporting by the NFL, news media and general public believing the reported errors and misinformation.
    #7: Goodell hires high priced law firm to ONLY investigate the Patriots thus creating a smear campaign started by the colts – who by the way – had possession of the ONLY football under 2psi.
    #8: Defamation of Character/ Slander is a CRIME but this is of no concern to Goodell. It is a fact that Goodell feels he can breake the rules by not doing an impartial fact gathering analysis from BOTH teams while LEAKING false info to the news media that slanders/defames the Patriots. – These are the FACTS !!!

  217. Haters are just jealous, and it could not be more obvious, as their numbers are dwindling and some of them come to their senses and disappear.

    Only the dummies in the class remain, and their jealousy of the Patriots is embarrassing. Such wussies.

  218. Still waiting for proof the patriots did any thing wrong, that being said I find this game from the 2012 season very interesting:
    2012 Patriots vs Sanfrancisco 49ers played week 16 in New England
    With a kickoff temp of 34f and cold rain. New England had 2 fumbles and two picks in the game and trailed in 4th quarter 31-3 only to comeback and tie the game 31-31. Ultimately they went on to lose 41-34 snapping a 21 game home winning streak. It was cold out and raining the patriots fumbled and threw interceptions and flat out were outplayed through 3 quarters. They didn’t need deflated balls then and almost won the game. Not because they were cheaters, because they are a good football team. They never use excuses when they lose unlike the colts and Ravens who always cry (especially the Ravens who blame everyone else – refs want protect Brady or the nfl because they want a certain out come or the lights went out in the super bowl because the nfl wanted them to lose or Because the formation gimmic this year or the kicking balls were deflated even though the officials are the only ones who handle those balls). You lost. Quit crying and deal with it.

  219. The Pats beat the Colts by enough of a margin that cheating wasn’t the only cause of that. But The Pats still cheated anyway. That’s the issue. That’s what this is all about. That’s what will be remembered…

  220. tdsin says: Feb 8, 2015 3:24 PM

    The Pats beat the Colts by enough of a margin that cheating wasn’t the only cause of that. But The Pats still cheated anyway. That’s the issue. That’s what this is all about. That’s what will be remembered…
    ————————————————————-
    No, actually what will be remembered is the Patriots winning Super Bowl 49, and the greatest defensive play in NFL history to win it

    The Colts will not even be an afterthought or footnote in this story, and may well look at 2014 as their highpoint under the current coaching staff. That’s a shame, as they are probably nice people, and the coach has overcome some personal challenges while the owner is still struggling with his. Their next regime may do better, but by that time Andrew Luck may well be on a different team, tired of playing for an organization that was not capable of building a team around him.

    So goes life in the sportsworld, with only the winners earning the spoils, and fans of other teams looking for ways to try to knock them off their perch. It’s sad, really.

  221. gtodriver says:
    Feb 6, 2015 7:08 PM
    I think the best solution to this issue is for them to just forget about what happened last month and then implement a plan to prevent any team from altering the PSI of the balls in the future.

    The NFL can have their own employees inflate all the balls and maintain control of the balls for every game.

    Problem solved.

    And I’m not a fan of the Patriots.

    *****************************************************

    I would think the Patriots and their fan base would not want that to happen. It would allow the Spygate and Deflategate Truthers to carry on forever. I could see the league trying to bury this if the Colts did indeed try to pull a fast one here, but the Patriots need to be cleared. If they are innocent, then they need to press hard for the truth, because we are living in a guilty till proven innocent world. The burden of proof here potentially lies with the victim. Welcome to America.

  222. Maybe one of these rocket scientist Patriots fans can define a tick for me, is that 1/10th of a psi a 1/3 of a psi, 1/2 a psi. What exactly is it.

    The bottom line is, does it really matter how much under the psi was there is a rule for a reason, account for it when you inflate the footballs.

    If the NFL takes action against the Patriots, which they won’t because of the personal relationship between Kraft and Goodell, they would have no one to blame but themselves.

  223. If the Colts really did this, then I will owe the pats fans a small apology… It means 1 out of 4 rings was deserved. And if it’s true I say the colts better do some firing… GM of the year a couple years back… Ummm no. But I seriously I doubt that it’s any thing other than the norm… Pats cheating… And my thought is that any advantage that helped these guys hold onto the football. Hey some early turnovers that might have happened could have a big impact on that game. Probably not, but we will never know will we?

  224. coltzfan166 says: Feb 6, 2015 7:29 PM

    Oh please. The Ravens were the first ones to be suspicious of the footballs after they played the Pats

    ———————————————-

    Yeah, the geniuses on the Ravens came out after the fact to complain about the K balls, which are kept by the refs the entire game. And Harbaugh has already said that it’s nonsense.

  225. Well, the initial report that 11 of 12 were 2 PSI under has now been refuted. So why is this new rumor so hard to believe?

    And don’t say “spygate”, because that was such a non-story. Not cheating, but a camera placement issue. The Jets did the same thing to the Pats the previous season during the playoffs, but former-Jets-employee Goodell didn’t put them through the ringer.

    The fact is, the NFL doesn’t know what any of the balls for either team started at and doesn’t know what they measured at halftime. So without any measurements, how can they possibly come out with any sort of definitive findings?

  226. Funny how once the saga questions the Colt’s role in this, the media gets very quiet, ain’t it?

  227. “jaysmack says:
    Feb 7, 2015 1:21 PM
    Patriots conspiracies are getting silly. Rapoport use to work for the patriots so to say he is unbiased is wrong and it is funny how when reports come out that pats fans don’t like it is unconfirmed hearsay but when a report comes out that pats fans like it is gospel truth.
    What rapoport said was that 1 ball was 2 lbs under, a few were 1 lb under and a few were just a few ticks under.
    He did not say all but one were a few ticks under.”

    Rapaport never worked for the Patriots. He worked for the Boston Herald. To claim he has a bias is wrong.

    As for what Rapaport actually reported, “Eleven of the 12 footballs used in the first half were judged by the officials to be under the minimum of 12.5 PSI, but just one was two pounds under. Many of them were just a few ticks under the minimum.”

    So you’re wrong on both counts. I think we can take your version of “truth” with a grain of salt. If you want credibility, don’t fudge public record facts.

  228. I think Ryan Grigson is going to want this to go away fast or if Goodell says there was no evidence this was purposely done expect Grigson to come out and say “I am satisfied with the commissioner’s ruling”

    Just don’t lump in Colts players with Grigson / Pagano / Harbaugh.

    Luck, Marvin Jones, Vinatieri, Matt Hasselbeck and D’Qwell Jackson have all pretty much said this is all nonsense.

  229. I am one of the people just catching up with this story – I gotta admit – it sure did just get very interesting.

    SB was a great game. Pats can go every year if the game is going to be that interesting. In fact, other than Pats/Bears and Pat/Packers, the Pats in the SB have produced some of the best games I’ve ever seen. Not a NE fan, but at least they’re fun to watch.

  230. LOL this is just hilarious. Yeah the Colts are going to deflate the balls themselves, then tip the league off that the Pats are deflating balls. That would make 0 sense by the Colts. This is a far reach. This has to be the most absurd theory that’s been thrown out there…

  231. swagger52 says:
    Feb 7, 2015 11:09 AM

    Bellichek tells you he researched stitches, he researched how many PSI increase when they rub the balls up. Yet, all of that makes no difference because the ball boy delivers the ball to the correct spec to the Refs.

    ——————-

    Actually, when the ball boy turns the footballs into the refs, they do NOT have to be within “specs”. It’s the refs job to make sure they are within “specs”. So, nice try. Keep turning over every rock though. Don’t forget to cite your sources.

  232. Aw, Tdsin has a crush on the Patriots.

    Awwwwwww. You’re too cute. You can secretly root for the Pats anytime you want. Don’t worry, you can keep pretending to not like them in public.

  233. New DEFLATEGATE THEORY:

    I tried this with a couple of friends this past weekend…

    1. Put NEW totally DEFLATED football in a refrigerator for two (2) hours.

    2. Inflate the football to 12.5 psi.

    3. Put back in ‘fridge for 30 minutes.

    4. Put the football outside on the lawn in 77 degree weather (I live in South Florida). Wait 1 hour.

    5. Test ball pressure…Mine came out to 17.12 psi.

    Just something I tried.

  234. As opposed to some Ridley, I don’t follow a team because I want to cuddle with it and rationalize away the questionable things they do. That’s purely a Pats thing…

  235. As a Patriots fan I find it so flattering and satisfying that a small but vocal subset of morons come on here and label the Patriots as “cheaters.” No, no they Patriots aren’t cheaters. In 15 years the only thing they did wrong was Belichick placed a camera in the wrong location in violation of a rule created in 2006. It was a rules violation and they paid their penalty. That’s it.

    That some people have no other explanation for their 14 year run of excellence but to come on here and say “they cheated” like a bunch of small minded, pouty children is such a tremendous compliment to this anomalous run of success. It is a great compliment to the Patriots organization.

    Go Patriots! I have enjoyed this run and I have enjoyed their 4 Super Bowl Titles and all their other great seasons, which will NEVER EVER EVER have an asterick next to them and yes haters each one was oh so sweet!!!!!!!!!!

  236. If Boomer is right, this should be the biggest scandal in NFL history. Imagine, two franchises conspiring to discredit the league’s biggest star. It doesn’t get more Machiavellian and he responds by winning the Super Bowl in historic fashion.

    The silence from virtually everyone in the NFL in response is compelling and that isn’t because what Boomer said isn’t true.

  237. Jim Irsay has ruined the NFL since watching his boy Manning get man handled by the Pats. Everyone that hates how soft this league has gotten can thank him. He single handedly ruined the game crying about the Pats beating the crap out of his Colts. No wonder he does drugs. He can’t handle it and I bet he is behind this witch hunt.

  238. Can you handle the truth? You can’t handle the truth! Deflate-gate = for those of you who haven’t figured it out yet, several (5) NFL team owners who are jealous of the Patriot’s success over two decades decided to connive a scam sham sting to do damage to Robert Kraft and the Patriots’ legacy with zero ammunition and zero veracity – no evidence and no proof – just an evil desire to pull someone else down, which is easier than pulling yourself up – so they pressured and manipulated Roger Goodell to create and market this fantasy phony contrived scandal called Deflate-gate.
    It is expensive to become a world class organization like the Patriots and it takes a very strong “brain-trust” – which these conniving 5 owners do not have between them. So as usual in the NFL, they took the low road.
    This will not fully come out for ten to twenty years until a tell-all scandal book on the inside of the NFL is produced without NFL approval or acceptance. It will be merely the tip of the iceberg of scandal and atrocity behind the scenes of the NFL inside. Rich does not mean classy – at times quite the opposite. Do not EVER confuse the NFL with ‘class’ – unless you mean low class or classless.

  239. “Deep down New England fans know the Patriots cheated; playing make believe is just one way of coping with it”

    Cope with what? There’s nothing to cope with.

    The Patriots are SB champions, and the fact that all you jealous idiots think they cheated just makes it that much sweeter!

  240. “Patriots are Cheaters…plain, simple, undeniable!”

    Quite deniable. As I asked earlier, when was it that they actually cheated?

    Did they break some rules? Yeah.

    Cheating infers they knew they were breaking he rules and did it anyway.

  241. Pats fans are the worse…. you got cheating, man up already. If my team could cheat their way to a Super Bowl win I’d be totally onboard, so would 100% of the people complaining.

  242. How about “Pat’s haters have to be the dumbest folks on the planet, no doubt.” You kind of undermined your own argument there Einstein.

  243. The blatant ignorance and disregard of recent reports and evidence on the whole DeflateGate nonsense just further confirms the complete and utter jealousy powering their hatred towards the Champs. For all the idiots saying what about the other 10? If you read past the headlines you would have seen the recent Ian Rappaport report (who is on the NFL payroll mind you) that stated out of the 12 balls in question, 4-5 were about 1lb PSI below while the rest were “just a tick below” and the 1 ball that was 2 lbs below just so happened to be the one turned in by the Colts(should make anyone w common sense wonder y). Also, the other report/statement released by the VP of NFL Officials who came out and apologized for his refs not following proper protocol when measuring the PSI level bc they used the “squeeze and feel test” therefore eliminating any chance of ever proving or disproving the Pats deflated the balls after being inspected. But, the fact that the entire Patriots organization has denied denied denied to the point of calling their own press comferences isn’t just out of character for them, it should be another tell tale sign to anyone w a brain that they did nothing wrong here. But what’s sad but true is that when the Pats are mentioned ppl always assume when there’s smoke there’s fire because it’s a lot easier to accuse them of cheating than admitting that they own ur favored team. The slanted reporting on this topic has been atrocious but I honestly can’t decide what’s worse, the fact that ESPN and their talking heads refuse to make any acknowledgement of the recent evidence that pretty much exonerates the Pats(minus a small blip on their ticker), or the fact that the ignorant Pats-haters out there just choose to ignore these recent updates bc it hurts their argument that the Pats cheated. And it’s been stated above but I’ll reiterate, TB has been on record saying he likes the balls at 12.5 or the minimum level, the reason any of the balls would be below that is simply due to the temperature change and usage that took place during the game. Also, Spygate was not a matter of the Pats illegally filming the other teams signals, that was legal then. It was where they filmed then from that was the issue…not a huge competitive advantage of u ask most ppl w some sense…at least not nearly as much of an advantage as having half ur team on PEDs. It’s really sad, but the vast majority of ppl these days are so biasly selective in what “news” they choose to believe or even acknowledge that true legends and top-notch sportsmen like Tom Brady and Bill Bellichek have to listen to and endure this kind of blind, ignorant hatred as opposed to being admired for what they are (the greatest QB/Coach combo ever) and have accomplished.

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