Reports: Packers considering changes to offensive staff, play calling responsibilities

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After the Packers lost to the Seahawks in the NFC Championship game, head coach Mike McCarthy said he was unaware that linebacker Clay Matthews was dealing with an injury in the second half of the game because he was focused on calling the plays for the offense.

McCarthy may not have that issue to deal with again in 2015. Chris Havel of WDUZ in Green Bay is reporting that the Packers will promote offensive coordinator Tom Clements to associate head coach and give him the play calling responsibilities while also moving Edgar Bennett from wide receivers coach to offensive coordinator.

No other Packers reporters have confirmed that report, but Tyler Dunne and Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Rob Demovsky of ESPN.com and Jason Wilde of ESPN Wisconsin all report some variation on the theme of the Packers considering changes to the responsibilities of the offensive staff.

Silverstein reports the goal is greater “team oversight,” something that became a concern when the team “lost its way” in that title game loss to the Seahawks. In the past, McCarthy has said he’s willing to make a change with play calling “if I felt we would be better served to have someone else call the plays.”

The Packers haven’t reached that point in the past, but it sounds like 2015 could bring a new approach on the sideline in Green Bay.

150 responses to “Reports: Packers considering changes to offensive staff, play calling responsibilities

  1. Oh great. The former GB backup running back Edgar Bennet, who, as receivers coach, coached the worst case of the drops on any team in the league, is given more responsibility.

    Fire everybody, don’t waste Rodgers prime

  2. This is huge if true. For several reasons but lets take a breathe here – if the game play is dictated by MM and he is telling the O coordinator what to do, then its not only a waste of time, its a communication fiasco – too many chefs in the kitchen phenon.

    What I’m getting at is Mike, runs one running back, Lacy. The others come in to give him a breather. Big opportunities are being missed by not mixing it up more like the Pats. They throw a power back at you, a speed, back and a guy who is in between and defenses have to prepare for that. Mike has a simple and easy to defend system, Lacy left, Lacy right. Thus field goals instead of touchdowns as Lacy gets stopped.

    If the O coordinator is forced to operate to the beat of that drum. its disasater waiting to happen.

  3. IMHO, the head coach has too much to worry about during the game to be the guy responsible for calling the plays. I think he should interject when necessary for strategic reasons but leave the actual calls to someone with nothing else to think about during the game. I also believe that guy should be standing on the sidelines rather than detached from the feel of the game up in the booth.

  4. The Packers, as well as the Bears and Lions, will be needing many changes over the next decade. For Zimmer and Teddy are taking over the North with an iron fist. I’m not even joking. Give Zimmer 2 more draft/FA sessions to stack the D and protect Teddy, this is going to be a very tough team .

  5. Just say’n Packer fans…..they might be overreacting a bit to that game.

    Keep overthinking it!!

  6. Reading all the comments it seems a lot of posters do not know how similar the packers and vikings are. So when you vikings trolls and packers trolls degrade the other team just remember your team has been there and probably will again.
    I put together these numbers for everyone to argue over.
    GB had a span of 21 years when they went over .500 twice.
    MN longest span losing record span was 3 years
    GB has taken advantage when they had good teams winning the SB 4 times in this span. MN has not.

    From 1960 – 2014 winning pct by decade
    Packers. vs. Vikings
    60’s. 71.3. 44.4
    70’s. 41.3. 69.4
    80’s. 43.7. 50.6
    90’s. 58.1. 59.3
    00’s. 59.3. 52.5
    10’s. 70.6. 39.3

    Superbowl years winning pct by decade
    Packers vs. Vikings
    67-76. 47.1. 71.4
    77-86. 42.7. 48.0
    87-96. 50.6. 56.6
    97-06. 60.6. 55.0
    07-14. 70.6. 39.3

    During that time GB had a better record 25 times. MN 24 times. Tied 5 times.
    60’s GB had a better record 6 times with 1 tie
    70’s MN had a better record 9 times
    80’s each had 4 with 2 ties
    90’s MN had a better record 5 times with 2 ties
    00’s GB had a better record 6 times
    10’s has been GB’s half decade so far with 5

    The cycle is turning again MN is on it’s way up and can GB keep it up?

  7. Viking fans on here are ridiculous. I get wanting to be optimistic about your teams upcoming season but you guys act and talk like Minnesota is well on their way to being a Super Bowl team with Bridgewater as your QB. You gotta be a playoff team before you can be a Super Bowl team and I don’t see that happening. Zimmer is a great DC ill admit that and IMO their D will improve with Zimmer but as long as Bridgwater is QB their offense will remain a joke and not even Norv Turner can fix that.

  8. Fans of a team that has:

    Lost all four Super Bowls they’ve been in…..

    And hasn’t even been to a Super Bowl in 39 years….

    Talking about “biggest choke in NFL History.”

    Hilarious irony.

  9. rjf15110 says:
    Feb 8, 2015 5:15 PM
    Reading all the comments it seems a lot of posters do not know how similar the packers and vikings are. So when you vikings trolls and packers trolls degrade the other team just remember your team has been there and probably will again.
    I put together these numbers for everyone to argue over.
    GB had a span of 21 years when they went over .500 twice.
    MN longest span losing record span was 3 years
    GB has taken advantage when they had good teams winning the SB 4 times in this span. MN has not.

    From 1960 – 2014 winning pct by decade
    Packers. vs. Vikings
    60’s. 71.3. 44.4
    70’s. 41.3. 69.4
    80’s. 43.7. 50.6
    90’s. 58.1. 59.3
    00’s. 59.3. 52.5
    10’s. 70.6. 39.3

    Superbowl years winning pct by decade
    Packers vs. Vikings
    67-76. 47.1. 71.4
    77-86. 42.7. 48.0
    87-96. 50.6. 56.6
    97-06. 60.6. 55.0
    07-14. 70.6. 39.3

    During that time GB had a better record 25 times. MN 24 times. Tied 5 times.
    60’s GB had a better record 6 times with 1 tie
    70’s MN had a better record 9 times
    80’s each had 4 with 2 ties
    90’s MN had a better record 5 times with 2 ties
    00’s GB had a better record 6 times
    10’s has been GB’s half decade so far with 5

    The cycle is turning again MN is on it’s way up and can GB keep it up?

    _____________________________________

    I will make this real simple for you. See below:

    NFC Championships (Division titles are great and all, but don’t really mean much when referring to Championships)

    NFCN Listing:
    #1 Green Bay Packers 13 NFL Championships
    (Alltime leader in the whole league)
    #2 Chicago Bears 9 NFL Championships
    (2nd most in the league)
    #3 Detroit Lions 4 NFL Championships
    I think they are in the top 15 in the league (don’t really care cuz it’s not even close…
    #4 Minnesota Vikings 0, ZIP, NADA, NO CHAMPIONSHIPS EVER!

    Everyone knows deep down that the Packers and Bears have the oldest and BEST rivalry in the NFL and possibly American sports. (If someone chimes in says its Steelers vs. Ravens, that is the most laughable piece of trash ever stated on Earth)

    Give it up with this Green Bay vs. Minnesota comparison because there is none. Green Bay owns Minnesota and always will.

  10. Playcalling is about the only thing McCarthy does right. It would make more sense to bring in someone who decides when to use timeouts around the 2 minute warning, when to go for it on 4th and goal from the 1, and when to challenge plays. Let McCarthy stick to the only thing he is capable of doing as an NFL head coach.

  11. pervyspankspackfans says:
    Feb 8, 2015 5:01 PM
    The Packers, as well as the Bears and Lions, will be needing many changes over the next decade. For Zimmer and Teddy are taking over the North with an iron fist. I’m not even joking. Give Zimmer 2 more draft/FA sessions to stack the D and protect Teddy, this is going to be a very tough team .
    ////////////////////////////////////////////

    Well, if you’re not joking, then it must be true. Thanks for the clarity.

  12. The only change I want to see is the Packers playing to win instead of playing not to lose.
    Don’t take the foot off the gas and put it on the brake.
    Don’t be afraid to be labeled or called “Not classy” and run up the freaking score and shove that ball down the opponents throats.
    If McJoke can’t get it done, and why would he change, then hopefully one of these other guys will!

  13. But how will score a td from the 1 yard line if we switch from McCarthy’s patented fb dive left, fb dive right, hb dive left, settle for field goal playing calling in that situation?

  14. It seems fitting that the 2nd biggest choke in history (GB loss to SEA) was followed by the biggest choke in history (SEA loss to NE).

  15. rjf15110 says:
    Feb 8, 2015 5:15 PM
    Reading all the comments it seems a lot of posters do not know how similar the packers and vikings are. So when you vikings trolls and packers trolls degrade the other team just remember your team has been there and probably will again.
    I put together these numbers for everyone to argue over.
    GB had a span of 21 years when they went over .500 twice.
    MN longest span losing record span was 3 years
    GB has taken advantage when they had good teams winning the SB 4 times in this span. MN has not.

    From 1960 – 2014 winning pct by decade
    Packers. vs. Vikings
    60’s. 71.3. 44.4
    70’s. 41.3. 69.4
    80’s. 43.7. 50.6
    90’s. 58.1. 59.3
    00’s. 59.3. 52.5
    10’s. 70.6. 39.3

    Superbowl years winning pct by decade
    Packers vs. Vikings
    67-76. 47.1. 71.4
    77-86. 42.7. 48.0
    87-96. 50.6. 56.6
    97-06. 60.6. 55.0
    07-14. 70.6. 39.3

    During that time GB had a better record 25 times. MN 24 times. Tied 5 times.
    60’s GB had a better record 6 times with 1 tie
    70’s MN had a better record 9 times
    80’s each had 4 with 2 ties
    90’s MN had a better record 5 times with 2 ties
    00’s GB had a better record 6 times
    10’s has been GB’s half decade so far with 5

    The cycle is turning again MN is on it’s way up and can GB keep it up?

    forgot…0-4….not that similar at all

  16. Sounds like MM may be going back to the arrangement he had with Joe Philbin at OC. Philbin crafted the game plan which gave MM a menu of plays to pick from and I think it worked better overall.

  17. @thevikesarebest(upid)-“The cheeseheads gotta find new and creative ways to meltdown in the post season.lol at you.SKOL”
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    As opposed to "Well…I guess all we can do is 'Embrace the Suck….'" SKOLOL

  18. ketch20too says: Feb 8, 2015 5:19 PM

    So he was calling plays while the D was on the field? Seems strange,

    ———————–

    In fairness to McCarthyism the offensive people have things to study and discuss when the defense is on the field.
    You might assume they are always playing angry birds on those tablets but sometimes they are studying coverages and discussing plays.

  19. They shouldn’t stop with offensive coaching… Throw the whole staff out, they have proved repeatedly they can’t get it done when the pressure is on.

  20. Silly Packer fans always obsessed about the past. Dealing with the present makes psychiatrists rich being forced to talking to so many whiny bandwagonners.

  21. McCarthy should be fired or at the very least NEVER again be allowed to participate in offensive play calling. In fact when the Packers get possession of the ball someone from the Packers organization should forcibly take away McCarthy’s headphones.

  22. MM cost the Pack this game. I was sick when the Pack went for FG’s twice in the first qtr on the 1 yard line! I thought Carroll was bad but MM is worse.

  23. The annual Vikings off-season Super Bowl Championship is in full effect….50 years running!!

    Let’s check reality, 0 Super Bowls, NFC North cellar dwellers since 2009, 1-9-1 vs GB in last 11, perennial 1st round busts (no bigger than CP84 and Tiny Hands Teddy…just wait), and finally something we all know THE 2015 MINNESOTA VIKINGS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MATHEMATICALLY ELIMINATED FROM THE PLAYOFFS, IN FEBRUARY, AGAIN!!!!

  24. This is an improvement, give McCarthy a chance to oversee the entire operation and not so focused on the playcalling. Clements always put together the game plan and this way it keeps those two (game plan and in game play calls) together.

    My advice is to ignore the Viking trolls. They have nothing to do until draft day when whoever the Vikings draft will be instantly upgraded to a sure-fire Canton bound Hall of Famer and the Vikings will win their 10th consecutive paper championship.

  25. lnfinite says: Feb 8, 2015 5:53 PM

    Silly Packer fans always obsessed about the past. Dealing with the present makes psychiatrists rich being forced to talking to so many whiny bandwagonners.
    ————

    Ok, let’s deal with the present. In the last five years, the Vikings have won exactly one game against the Packers, and their star player likes whipping toddlers.

    Psychiatrists in Minnesota must be raking in the dough.

  26. I don’t know why teams insist on being so cute with their job titles. The only person that should “head coach” anywhere in their title is the actual head coach. No associate head coaches, no co-head coaches, no assistant head coaches. It looks the head coach look weak. And the OC calls plays. That’s what an OC does.

  27. The Packers laying claim to “13 World Championships” is ridiculous. For the first 50 years of their franchise, they were playing against teams like the Frankford Yellow Jackets and the Providence Steamrollers. Yes, those were real teams! Over half of their “WORLD” championships were played in a league with less than a dozen teams, all from small towns across the NE. Yes, the modern-day Packers are a great team, but those first 50 years are in no way comparable to football during the Super Bowl era.

  28. All I know is all of them should be sick in their stomachs after puking up that game to Seattle.

    Had them beat dead to rights and let em off the hook.

    It wasn’t even the early field goals, I have no problem with that. It was going turtle for the whole 4th quarter

  29. Mike McCarthy is the biggest benefactor of deflategate. He should have been excoriated for those horrendous calls in the NFC championship game.

  30. They will be behind the historic Minnesota Vikings every year from now on.

    Coach Zimmer is turning this team into a powerhouse. And Adrian Peterson will be back in full form next year.

    Not to forget they have Teddy Bridgewater who posted the best rating in the last five weeks of the season.

    The season series will be 2-0 for the Vikings by a differential of close to 80 points.

    Skol.

  31. The Patriots and the Packers were probably the two best teams at the end of the season. It would have been nice to see them square off in the super bowl. I think they’re making a good move here. Somebody should have made sure they were in a base defense on that faked field goal. That was the only real coaching blunder, and it might not have happened if the head coach wasn’t pre-occupied with play-calling. Clinton-Dix laid an egg on that 2 pt. conversion, and the onside kick that went through the players hands was just a bad play. But the Packers beat the heck out of Seattle, even though they ended up losing. The same thing almost happened to the Patriots.

  32. I love all the Monday morning QB football fans who know exactly what the right play calls are after the fact. It’s amazing how hindsight turns every NFL fan into Vince Lombardi.

  33. adoombray says: Feb 8, 2015 4:55 PM

    Oh great. The former GB backup running back Edgar Bennet, who, as receivers coach, coached the worst case of the drops on any team in the league, is given more responsibility.

    Fire everybody, don’t waste Rodgers prime..

    Have you lost your mind? BTW-it’s spelled Bennett. He was(if you’re old enough to recall) one of the ime reasons the Packers made the Super Bowl in the 1990’s. The Packers had one of the lowest percentages of drops in the league(look it up). And last, but always, not least, “fire everybody”, the call of the youthful Packers fan who doesn’t have a clue. Who are they going to have coach, dig up Vince Lombardi?
    —-
    jbvikes says: Feb 8, 2015 4:57 PM

    I think they have reached it now! Biggest choke in NFL history! Still doesn’t get old!!

    Sorry, dude, the Vikings and the Bills still hold the record(s) for the worst choke jobs in history. Green Bay has a long way to go. BTW-since the Packers were THERE deep in the playoffs, where were the Vikings? Trying to find a couple more ex-Packers to add to the roster? If the Vikings weren’t so pathetic they would be laughable.

  34. I’m here just to read what the Packer trolls are saying in response to my fellow Viking trolls.

    Good luck next year cheddarheads and don’t discount my mediocre Vikes this coming year, Zimmer’s the real deal.

    Skol

  35. you mean he s being stripped of his play calling duties? hes not a good coach.. he’s just a puppet ! hahaha oh sorry this is Jason Garrett who believed having more responsibilities when not calling the plays was a good thing for the team and it turned out it was … kinda odd this is not trending it was when garrett gave up his duties lol

  36. If you’ve ever been working at the top level of an organization you should be able to appreciate the decision made by the Packers brain trust. It shows that they are giving more than lip service to the saying “everything is on the table”. Good decisions require everyone having their egos in check.

    Seems like the Seahawks, Pats, and Packers have organizations that are ahead of everyone else. The Browns on the other hand….

  37. A Rod is in GB, Vikes aren’t winning it.

    And I’m a Seahawks fan. I am not opposed to change ups in coaching and play calling. It worked for the Cowboys. But I also wouldn’t be in a rush to dismiss the success that McCarthy has had there over the last decade. The run the Pack has had has been extremely impressive.

    As for you Vike trolls…. bwahahahaha…. you are the ultimate chihuahua. Constantly yapping at the big dogs (Hawks, Pack, etc…), just begging for someone to notice you….

    Its sad, and funny, all at the same time.

  38. Richard Sherman plays with a torn ligament.
    Earl Thomas plays with a torn labrum in his shoulder.
    Kam Chancellor plays with a torn MCL.

    Clay Matthews pulls himself out because he’s too tired. Must have been all the cheap shot attempts.

  39. cinzano08 says:
    Feb 8, 2015 6:02 PM
    MM cost the Pack this game. I was sick when the Pack went for FG’s twice in the first qtr on the 1 yard line! I thought Carroll was bad but MM is worse.
    ——————————–
    MM’s gameplan gave us a 16-0 lead at half time on the road against the defending champs and no.1 ranked defense.

    And everyone wants him fired cause a doofus 3rd string Tight End didn’t do his job?

    Fail…
    Let’s run proven and successful coaches out of town cause one or two things didn’t go our way…

    smh, our fans are spoiled dolts.

  40. riverace19 says:
    Feb 8, 2015 5:50 PM
    They shouldn’t stop with offensive coaching… Throw the whole staff out, they have proved repeatedly they can’t get it done when the pressure is on.
    ————————-
    Cause Superbowl 45 wasn’t a high pressured situation…smh.

  41. poorcalvinisstuckonthecrappylions says:
    Feb 8, 2015 5:01 PM
    Cutler>Romo>Stafford

    17 60
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Wow… not even close…

    Romo>Stafford>Cutler…

    AND I’m a long time Bears fan too!

  42. Hawks – Big Dogs? umm im sorry congrats last yr on winning the big one but umm a few years of success does not ll the sudden make you “big dogs” with deades upon decades of terrible seasons … show me 10-15 years of success before you call yourselves “big dogs” LOL

  43. myhawks1976 says:
    Feb 8, 2015 7:23 PM……..As for you Vike trolls…. bwahahahaha…. you are the ultimate chihuahua. Constantly yapping at the big dogs (Hawks, Pack, etc…), just begging for someone to notice you….
    =========================================
    Malcolm Butler says you’re a rather SMALL Dog

  44. Packers window of opportunity has closed with improvements to all other nfcn teams and an aging team. They’ll be lucky to win the division next year so why worry about choking away another nfc championship game.

  45. I get a kick out of folks here who call the coaches and players by their first names, or talk as if they’re in the Packers coaches room or actually coming up with something that might be used by the team. I guess people take this stuff at various levels and themselves, of importance. That said, all I can add is that the Packer fans should be pretty upset with how their coaches blew the Seattle game. Even more so since the Pats ended up winning it all, and that the fans were convinced they’d easily handle the Pats in any rematch. I’m not a Pack fans but watching the Seattle game was hard enough, now the Seahawks fans got theirs (karma again). I think this is the Packers coach’s way of saying he screwed up. On most teams he’d be on notice right now.

  46. cboys4life2014 says:
    Feb 8, 2015 5:23 PM
    …….. but as long as Bridgwater is QB their offense will remain a joke and not even Norv Turner can fix that.
    ==================================
    Judging a rookie season which wasn’t that bad considering it wasn’t a full season & he was missing a MVP running back & the starting TE is the sign of an idiot.

  47. fartweasel says:

    Packers window of opportunity has closed with improvements to all other nfcn teams and an aging team.
    +++++++++++++++++++
    Facts are a stubborn thing, the Packers were the 4th youngest team in the NFL last season. Add to that the general trend for the greatest improvement is from the rookie year to the player’s second year and the Packers started 4 rookies and I will take my chances with the Packers. BustH2O wasn’t exactly setting the world on fire but he did better than Ponder, I’ll give you that much.

  48. One thing I know for certain is “Muslim Ponder” is a trash talking Viking troll. You’re like an obsessive exgirlfriend. Why don’t you worry about your own miserable team?

  49. ionlyrootforthewinningteam says:
    Feb 8, 2015 5:31 PM

    I will make this real simple for you. See below:

    NFC Champions
    #4 Minnesota Vikings 0, ZIP, NADA, NO CHAMPIONSHIPS EVER!
    ————————————————————************************************************

    If you are going to count championships back when the league had about 12 teams you need to count the Viking’s championship when they went to the Super Bowl against the AFL champion.

  50. McCarthy is a good coach but at times he has caused this team wins by getting to conservative maybe now he can focus on the team as a whole instead of just worrying about offense. I am sure the calls will still have to go through him no matter who is calling them and if he don’t like it he will change it but the bottom line is it comes down to Rodgers at the line to make the final call according to the defensive read he sees.

  51. @Ionlyrootforwinningteams

    If you’re going to count pre NFL-AFL merger championships that were won before you were even born, then the Vikings have 1 NFL championship won in 1969, they didn’t win the Superbowl that year, but yes they were NFL Champions.

  52. sportsfan18 says:
    Feb 8, 2015 7:30 PM
    poorcalvinisstuckonthecrappylions says:
    Feb 8, 2015 5:01 PM
    Cutler>Romo>Stafford

    17 60
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Wow… not even close…

    Romo>Stafford>Cutler…

    AND I’m a long time Bears fan too!

    ______________________________________

    Both of you are completely wrong!!

    Cutler=Romo=Stafford THEY ARE ALL THE SAME!

    AND if you’re a Bear’s fan, did it ever occur to you that booing Cutler and not supporting your QB isn’t going to make him play better!

  53. thevikesarebest says:
    Feb 8, 2015 5:01 PM
    The cheeseheads gotta find new and creative ways to meltdown in the post season.lol at you.SKOL

    …………………………………………………………………………………………..

    Whereas the Vikings needn`t change a single thing for the half century plus of ineptness and futility to continue unabated..

  54. carloswlassiter says: Feb 8, 2015 6:14 PM

    I agree with the guy who said they are wasting Aaron Rodgers prime. This guy is the league’s best and somehow they can’t get to more than one Super Bowl?
    —————————————————————

    GIVE AARON RODGERS COMPLETE CONTROL

  55. rjf15110 says:
    Feb 8, 2015 5:15 PM
    Reading all the comments it seems a lot of posters do not know how similar the packers and vikings are.

    …………………………………………………………………………………………..

    One big difference- Lambeau Field houses 4 Lombardi trophies whereas none of the venues infested by the Vikings has seen need to even build a trophy case.

  56. wahoo21 says:
    Feb 8, 2015 6:56 PM
    Minnesota is as relevent as the Jets

    Congrats

    …………………………………………………………………………………………

    At least the Jets won a Superbowl.

  57. ablazinpanda says:
    Feb 8, 2015 8:03 PM

    @Ionlyrootforwinningteams

    If you’re going to count pre NFL-AFL merger championships that were won before you were even born, then the Vikings have 1 NFL championship won in 1969, they didn’t win the Superbowl that year, but yes they were NFL Champions.

    ______________________________________

    I have overlooked a Championship, I apologize and thank Viking’s fans everywhere for bringing this to my attention.

    Packers Bears and even the Lions are in a much bigger level then the Vikings are and you all need to come terms with reality and move on. Teddy Bridgewater is not the next Aaron Rodgers. Brett Favre was your only hope in recent years and that ship has sailed and Bridgewater was on the wrong ship, sorry Viking’s fans, but it’s the truth….NOW GET OVER IT.

    Packers>Bears>Lions>Viking

    this is the recent trend and most likely will continue unless the Lions manage to stay ahead of the Bears in the division for a long period of time(not likely), 1 season (last year) is not enough after the Bears have dominated the Lions for some many years.

  58. Mike McCarthy is the most overrated head coach in the NFL. His play calling consistently makes me yell at the TV and I’m not even a Packers fan.

  59. I have overlooked a Championship, I apologize and thank Viking’s fans everywhere for bringing this to my attention.

    Packers Bears and even the Lions are in a much bigger level then the Vikings are and you all need to come terms with reality and move on. Teddy Bridgewater is not the next Aaron Rodgers. Brett Favre was your only hope in recent years and that ship has sailed and Bridgewater was on the wrong ship, sorry Viking’s fans, but it’s the truth….NOW GET OVER IT.

    Packers>Bears>Lions>Viking

    this is the recent trend and most likely will continue unless the Lions manage to stay ahead of the Bears in the division for a long period of time(not likely), 1 season (last year) is not enough after the Bears have dominated the Lions for some many years.
    __________________
    The Lions may be good now, but calling them better then the Vikings is just kinda dumb, I mean they got 4 NFL championships, but the Vikings didn’t even exist then, so theres not much bragging rights there. If you compare the existense between Vikings-Lions games, then history points very favorably towards the Vikings. Honestly on Packer threads, Vikings fans come to hate, and vice versa on Viking threads, its just pure idiocy that makes me comment

  60. Just let Wonder boy Aaron Rodgers and his golden calf make the play calls. Maybe he can have the turf changed in Tampa while he is at it. Its never Aarons fault, just listen to him

  61. johnnytarr says:
    Feb 8, 2015 8:02
    If you are going to count championships back when the league had about 12 teams you need to count the Viking’s championship when they went to the Super Bowl against the AFL champion.
    ////////////////////////////////////////////

    The NFL does not give credit for “NFC championships” earned by the Packers in 1966 and 1967. They acknowledge only the SuperBowls as championships from those years. The same rules apply to the Vikings in 1969.

    Makes no difference to me. But if you insist that the Vikings earned a championship, then the Packers have fifteen titles, not thirteen. Count ’em. You’ll see.

    Oh, by the way, back in the old days every other team had the same opportunities to win titles as the Packers did, and against the same competition. Why is that a bad thing? It’s bad because you weren’t there?

    OK…..try this…. Count the Packer titles earned only since the Vikings entered the league in 1961. Now compare that number of titles against the titles earned by the Vikings in the same period of time. 7-0. Your number is still zero.

    Good luck with that.

  62. Lions > Vikings not even close!

    I have been a fan in the NFCN since 1979. Now your just being butthurt cause the Viking’s are terrible and always have been. Your fans are ridiculous, biggest low life trolls ever and you’re just being desperate. The Packer’s fan base has way to much to much class to be considered on the same level as the Vikings.

    “Honestly on Packer threads, Vikings fans come to hate”<<<<<<Real mature statement here, stay classy, l0ser!

  63. So, you’re telling me that MULTIPLE BLOWN CALLS IN THE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME IS ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY THESE ACTIONS?

    Me, I would have fired a couple of people. Conservative, borderline cowardice. Certainly malfeasant. AS BAD as Christmas “Pete” Carroll.

  64. This is just one example of why it’s GREAT to be a Packer fan! The organization is progressive – always evolving .. always improving.

    Tom Clements has plenty of experience in the offense, and a great relationship with Rodgers. Edgar Bennett was a Super Bowl winning running back who coached running backs for a number of years before moving on to coach receivers – he’ll be a great coordinator!

    Both of those guys will have McCarthy in their corner to bounce ideas off of.

    Looking forward to the 2015 season – should be another great one Packer fans!

  65. The NFL does not give credit for “NFC championships” earned by the Packers in 1966 and 1967. They acknowledge only the SuperBowls as championships from those years. The same rules apply to the Vikings in 1969.

    Makes no difference to me. But if you insist that the Vikings earned a championship, then the Packers have fifteen titles, not thirteen. Count ‘em. You’ll see.

    Oh, by the way, back in the old days every other team had the same opportunities to win titles as the Packers did, and against the same competition. Why is that a bad thing? It’s bad because you weren’t there?

    OK…..try this…. Count the Packer titles earned only since the Vikings entered the league in 1961. Now compare that number of titles against the titles earned by the Vikings in the same period of time. 7-0. Your number is still zero.

    Good luck with that.
    _______________
    With your consensus, the Vikings have 1 championship, so if you’re trying to make fun of a team for not having any championships, you failed.

  66. Bridgewater did well for a rookie thrown into the situation he was… 4 starters out for 6+ weeks after 2nd game (five if you count Cassel). Yes he made some rookie mistakes early on, but in the final four games he posted numbers almost as good, if not better, than the four QB going to the division championships. Last year I predicted the Vikings would have an 8-8 season… and I was close. 7-9 with half of the 9 losses settled by less than a 7 point margin. This year (2015) I predict the Vikings will come in a VERY close 2nd to the Packers… something along the order of an 12-4 vs 11-5 season. I also predict they will be the NFC wildcard team. Will they make it to the Super Bowl? Probably not. All day will be back to make what is now a young but average team better… but they still need work in the OL and their secondary could use some shoring up as well. Watch the free agency and drafts little sisters to the east… the Purple People Eaters are making a return visit… SOON!

  67. All we ever see here is children spouting off about the past like obsessed maniacs. Too bad the present reveals another epic choke job in the NFCCG. Sucks to be a packer fan.

  68. For a team that was an overtime loss away from a Superbowl appearance, and a rematch against a team they’d already defeated during the season, sure hope they don’t get carried away here.

  69. It gets more and more obvious with each new piece of information that Mike McCarthy needs to move away from coaching.

    The GM should have fired him the day after the Seattle game.

  70. Let’s all try this little sing-a-long…. Brett Favre goes back to pass, he pumps. Now he throws over the middle…..

    Come on, you know the rest. The best chance Minnesota has had and will have in three decades….and just like that, the same result. Deserved.

  71. Who doesn’t love seeing the Pack scrambling…whoever said there would be no fallout after the loss to Seattle is now working somewhere new, that was easy to predict…

  72. Now he doesn’t want to be accountable for play calling. Let Laazzzzy be the play call guy and Packers will win Super Bowl for sure. The only so Packers who choke, collapse, and or melt down

    GO PACK!!!!!!

  73. They need to put the offensive play-calling responsibilities in the hands of the offensive coordinator, and they need to put the snack-vending responsibilities in the hands of McCarthy, Capers, and Bostick.

  74. @ionlyrootforthewinningteam

    For what it’s worth you are wrong when you say that the Vikings don’t have a NFL championship. They won the NFL championship before losing Super Bowl IV. It wasn’t until Super Bowl V that the Super Bowl crowned the NFL champion.

  75. Don’t you Bears, Lions, Vikings, and Seahawks fans get it? The reason Matthews didn’t play at the end of the game was because THE DOCTORS DIDN’T LET HIM!!!!!!!

  76. The Vikings fans are talking about NFC Championship games? Pretty funny coming from a team that LOST 5 IN A ROW! At least they didn’t lose there 5th SB in a row yet!
    Skoal!

  77. So… What is wrong with the defensive coaches that McCarthy being completely focused on the offensive play-calling (even though that didn’t help during the Seattle game) and being unaware of an injury on defense would be an issue?

  78. It takes a big man to admit when he’s done wrong. McCarthy knows that even with his overly conservative play calling, the Packers would still be in the Super Bowl if they had just recovered the onside kick. A great coach makes both big changes, like letting go of Shawn Slocum and giving up play calling, and small changes, like changing the workout regime to reduce injuries. McCarthy is vastly underrated as a head coach. Call him conservative, call him quiet, call him rigid, but don’t say he isn’t open to change when that change can be for the better.

  79. No offense people, but this change is not about McCarthy’s poor play calling or oversight issues, it’s about giving Clements a chance to take on more responsibility so that he can eventually get real consideration for a head coaching job. He’s getting passed over because he doesn’t call the plays. Now, if the pack offense does well next year, he could get a job and Mike will go right back to calling plays again!

  80. This is the step before showing the entire coaching staff and the GM the way out the door!

    In all reality McCarthy should be fired now for incompetence for not knowing a player was injured!

  81. “#1 Green Bay Packers 13 NFL Championships
    (Alltime leader in the whole league)
    #2 Chicago Bears 9 NFL Championships
    (2nd most in the league)
    #3 Detroit Lions 4 NFL Championships
    I think they are in the top 15 in the league (don’t really care cuz it’s not even close…
    #4 Minnesota Vikings 0, ZIP, NADA, NO CHAMPIONSHIPS EVER! ”

    I’m a longtime Packer fan, but one correction in fairness: The Vikings DO have one NFL championship. They won the 1969 NFL title but lost Super Bowl IV. The first four Super Bowls were pre-merger and didn’t crown the NFL champion. The AFL and NFL sent their respective league champions to play in the Super Bowl.

  82. @smedley61: Why not? Rodgers is at least as smart as Manning. As long as he was given information from the coordinators and assistants in the box, he probably could do at least as good of a job as McCarthy.

  83. @Brandon: You mean the same play calling responsible for six running plays (two three-and-outs) in a row that used up no time and gave Seattle more time to come back? That kind of perspective?

  84. Viking fans count NFC Titles as World Championships ????
    I thought you had to beat the AFC title holder ???

    VIKING FANS still pathetic as ever

  85. “The AFL and NFL announced an agreement to merge in 1970, and the Super Bowl, a matchup between the two league’s best teams, began determining the world champions at the conclusion of the 1966 season.”

    Otherwise, the Packers would have two championships in each year of 1966 and 1967, for a total fifteen…..not thirteen. But they don’t. They have thirteen and the Vikings have zero.

    This should really end this conversation, but I’m sure it won’t.

  86. jbvikes has a bad case of short term memory loss. Who can forget Jan 24th, 2010 and the Porter pick of Favre. Still one of my all time favorite plays!!! Unlike the loser Queens the Pack will be back in the playoffs next year. Troll on Queen fans!!

  87. …. will it be a one and out for Rodgers and the Packers…. for Super Bowl wins.. .?

    just saying…

    Brady took 10 years… yes 10 to get back….

    will the Pack ever see that trophy again…

    good news… Seahawks lost their Def Coord…

    Will Wilson like baseball better this time ?

    San Fran won’t be a contender… Giants any better….

    they’re missing out on opportunities…

  88. “Not a bad idea. Great to know he’s humble enough to consider it.’
    Humility has nothing to do with it, common sense has taken over. as a play caller he was an OC and not a head coach during games,he missed an awful lot of what exactly was going on during games that he should have known as HC. a gameday HC gets involved in the whole team aspect not just the offense,this will certainly help the Packers.

  89. The coaching should include providing Rogers with the option to check out of a bad call at a critical time. Following Burnetts int the three rushes into 9 in the box was the perfect moment for Rogers to get creative. Also Capers needs to watch the sequence of plays that lead up to 4 and 26 and compare it to his defensive call on 3 and 19. Please stop doing this to us fans. And finally where were the coaches when there was 5 minutes left in the game and players were congratulating each other. If McCarthy wasn’t busy calling awful plays during that moment maybe he could of been keeping his players minds in the game. Whatever you coaches decide to do in the future please look at your past errors and admit them. Ignoring them will only mean that it will happen again.

  90. I am going to ignore the standard Vikings trolls. But, this is good news. I am not a McCarthy fan- he has proven that he struggles in the big games, with the exception of the run to the Super Bowl a few years back. His play calling gets noticeably worse and seems to be far off the standard gameplan in the bigger games. This is not a players issue, this is a McCarthy issue.

  91. I agree that this is a good idea. It will allow him to better manage the overall game (including clock management and using timeouts, challenges, etc.) and he can still provide input in situations.

  92. McCarthy is a great coach but can struggle with maintaining the edge at the end of games. It’s been frustrating at times. While I welcome the change of play-calling duties, I hope it doesn’t create other issues.

  93. Love the passion from Packer nation. No matter how gut wrenching the loss, it’s never the players’ fault. You ALWAYS blame the coach, GM, refs, water boy, etc. Fact is, Rodgers threw a costly INT in the red zone when McCarthy let him throw. Perhaps the coach decided that Rodgers’ injury and/or play that day didn’t warrant going for it on 4th down. Or maybe McCarthy is a gutless coward. We will never know because the Packer D folded (again) in the clutch and Bostic’s Butter Fingers did the rest.

    What IS clear is that Rodgers continues his whiny ways. He whines about the turf in Tampa. He whines about the coach not calling the right plays. It’s never Rodgers’ fault, is it?

    A true leader would have accepted the blame–even if too much of it is heaped on the QB–but Rodgers’ arrogance would never let that happen.

  94. A head coach has more to worry about than play calling. He is the orchestra leader and has to know what is going on from an overall standpoint. This is a good move.

  95. Wow, you people are stupid. Who cares that the Packers won some championships before the NFL draft even existed? The Lions haven’t won a playoff game since 1957 and I’m supposed to believe they have a better history than the Vikings? The Bears won one Super Bowl, congratulations. The only thing that matters is what’s going to happen from this point forward and Packer, Bear, and Lion fans are going to be in for a surprise.

  96. Rodgers should have all the cheese he needs to go with his whine over the play calling. As for coach McCarthy, with those lazy eyes there’s no reason he shouldn’t be able to see what’s happening on the field at all times. Bear down!

  97. I can only conclude people calling for Mike McCarthy’s head are just jealous fans from other teams, hoping he gets hired by theirs. If you’re a Packer fan and want him fired, your an idiot. Just who would you rather have, that is available? Mike called a brilliant game UNTILL the after the interception by Barnett . Yes those 3 running plays were too conservative. Aside from that no issues with HIS calls. Special Teams, that was another matter, coach was fired and rightly so. Even that could be argued had the players executed. Taking F.G.’s instead of going for it on 4th and 1, that move failed against the Lions and Bucs. On the road, you take the points any way you can get them, period.

  98. Rodgers threw at Sherman thinking he had a free play because the Seahawks were offsides. However, the refs failed to call it. That one is on the refs. The other one was because the receiver ran the wrong route.

  99. Vikes title in 69 doesn’t count cuz it is the equivalent of the NFC Championship, not whole league. Packers are way back on choke list. Anyone remember Houston/Buffalo in 93 playoffs?

    If true this is a good move for the Pack. McCarthy seems to have too much going on. He should let go of play calling.

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