No Tannehill talks, yet

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Every member of the quarterback class of 2012 has become eligible to do a second contract. With much of the speculation centering on Russell Wilson and Andrew Luck, David Hyde of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel has thrown another name into the mix: Ryan Tannehill.

Hyde reports, citing an unnamed source, that the “framework” of a seven-year contract worth $105 million currently is being discussed. Multiple sources with knowledge of the situation tell PFT, however, that negotiations have not yet commenced.

One source said that, while the situation could change, discussions aren’t happening. Another source said that talks haven’t started, but the source expressed optimism that discussions will occur, at the Scouting Combine in Indianapolis.

Tannehill is under contract through 2015. The team has a fifth-year option that, if exercised, would pay Tannehill in 2016 the average of the 10 highest quarterback cap numbers in 2015.

The structure to any new contract would be the key, along with the amounts paid out in the early years of the deal.

If the Dolphins believe Tannehill is poised for a breakthrough season in 2015, it makes sense to lock him up now. If they don’t and if he becomes one of the top quarterbacks in the game, it could become much more expensive to lock him up later.

75 responses to “No Tannehill talks, yet

  1. Quarterbacks have all the leverage in negotiations now. If a team tries to lowball them, they can just point at Colin Kaepernick and say “if that gangly sprinter masquerading as a quarterback is worth $126,000,000, I’m worth at least that much!”

  2. Are they insane all that money for a guy who chokes when the game is on the line and who always overthrows WR’s. He couldn’t even beat the jets to get into the playoffs.

  3. So nice to finally have stability at the QB position. Now all we need is a G, TE, WR, ILB, CB, Free safety, NT, Big RB, a real head coach and some depth and we will be kicking some butt! Go Phins!

  4. Top QBs can throw a ball further than 20 yards accurately. Tannehill has never shown he do that, even after they threw too much money at one of the best deep threats in the game. Signing him to a big money, long term deal will screw the dolphins up for years. Their best bet for future success would be to let Tannehill play out his contract and immediately start looking for a QB actually capable of taking the dolphins to the promise land. He will make a fine QB #2 somewhere.

  5. Everyone who actually knows football understand’s that the real downfall for the dolphins this year was the defense blowing the game’s. It’s too bad tannehill doesn’t have a defense to bail him out of a terrible performance of 4 int’s and the team still wins, actually, tannehill has yet to throw 4 int’s in a game.

    This kid is the real deal, people keep hanging on to an irrelevant stat of the deep ball when the NFL trend for almost every team is short, efficient pass game. And if people want to get technical, pff, the site who grades a players impact on the team and factors in all situations, have tannehill’s deep ball graded at a positive 2.7, you know who has a negative grade, Wilson with a negative 2.7. Matter a fact they have tannehill rated as a better qb this year when given the whole teams situation.

    Of that draft class only luck has had to deal with carrying a team more than tannehill has had to do, not everyone from that draft class was given the #1 defense and run game to get them success.

  6. Let it fly into next year. See how he does for the first 8 games, then make a deal. Even if you pay more you get the benefit of a low cost in 2015 to average in. The facts are they were 8-8 at best with him. That’s the facts. The rest is speculation. Most great QBs in the last 10 years have made it into the playoffs by their third year and won Superbowls by their 4th. With the new passing rules where 4000 yards is the new 3000 yards, I think we are reaching with Ryan’s ability.

  7. dude will get overpaid..all mediocre qbs get overpaid thx to flacco who had one magical 4 game run with a huge assist from a dencer cb…completely skewed the mediocre qb market..which includes flacco, kaep, cutler, tanehill, etc.

  8. Colts to Andrew luck: here are the keys to the ford pinto, good luck.

    Dolphins to Ryan tannehill: here are the keys to the dodge neon, try your best.

    Seahawks to Russell Wilson: here are the keys to the Ferrari, don’t scratch it.

  9. I just don’t buy that Tannehill is the real deal. Seen too many qbs like him NOT “turn the corner” when people expect them to.

    Hope I am wrong. Dolphins fans deserve a winner. It’s about time they replace Dan Marino. Big shoes to fill.

  10. If I’m Les Snead, I offer the Dolphins Bradford and a 5th rounder for Tannehill. Or a 4th rounder if Mrs. Tannehill agrees to do a calendar.

  11. Tannehill is no beast and he’s not one of the great young QBs. He’s pretty good though, and gets better every year. Still learning the position. I’d pay him 15 mil/yr. You could do better, but could also do a lot worse. I’d rather have him than Kaepernick or ADalton.

  12. 100 million? What has he done in the NFL? People criticize Daltons contract, but the Bengals have made the playoffs every year since they drafted him.

    Do the Dolphins even have a winning record with him playing QB?

  13. Huh? Someone please remind me what this guy has done warrant a 100 mill contract.
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    3 years, 23-25 WL, 63 TD, 42 INT, 139 Sacks, 27 Fumbles, No playoff appearances. Apparently… this, SMH.

  14. Better to pay him now rather than later. If they exercise the option, Wilson and Luck deals could balloon the already high top 10 average. Any future contract for Tannehill would start there.

    I think this kid is going to be a very good QB for several years. His deep ball is not what many people seem to think. If you factor in how historically bad the Dolphins offensive line has been, his stats are extraordinary. He does need to work on the deep ball, touch and pocket awareness. Any improvement in any of those areas would push him towards the top tier of league QBs. His comeback win # should be better but the defense blew most of the games he gave them a late lead in. Miami has some questions to address but QB is not among them. Sign him quickly.

  15. If I’m Les Snead, I offer the Dolphins Bradford and a 5th rounder for Tannehill. Or a 4th rounder if Mrs. Tannehill agrees to do a calendar.
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    No way would the Dolphins give up Tannehill for Bradford and a 1st and 2nd. Tannehill is way better than Sam always injured Bradford.

  16. Tannehill is in the decent to good but not spectacular range, and that is how he should be paid. It is a mistake to overpay for a QB in this range. You can win with a QB of his status, but only if you have enough cap space to cover for his limitations with good players at other positions as well.

    I hope we keep him, but at a reasonable price.

  17. He’s an adequate QB. That’s not meant as an insult–in today’s NFL, that means he’s better than average. He won’t carry a team, but he won’t sink one either.

  18. I actually like Tannehill. 2nd best qb in the AFCE, and he’s a guy you can win with if you surround him with the right pieces. He isn’t Brady or Rodgers but he can be Wilson, Flacco, Roethlisberger. Put him on a great team and he can do enough to not screw it up and make enough plays to win.

  19. Dear Miami Dolphins,

    PLEASE sign Tannehill to a 10 year deal.

    Yours Truly,

    All Pats fans

  20. Let the contract play out without signing him to a long term deal. He has not taken his team to the playoffs yet. So what is the rush. Defensive Coordinators love game planning against Ryan in the big games. Why? Due to his inability to throw the ball accurately on deeper routes.

  21. Ahem, I’m a dyed in the wool Patriots fan, and I think Ryan Tannehill is pretty darn good, and getting better every year. For those that want him replaced, I’d like to know who it is that you’d like to replace him with, and whether or not they’re available.

  22. “Please sign Tannehill to a long time contract with lots of guaranteed money.”

    Sincerely,

    The rest of the AFC East

  23. There is one issue that has been skirted around here when people discuss his stats.

    His numbers are good, and on the upswing.
    His sack total is ridiculously high.
    The number of games he has missed due to injury in the face of that ridiculously high sack total… zero.

    $100 million in the NFL for a QB is nothing. The Fins will lock him up, and absolutely should.

    All these “they hate us cause they ain’t cheaters” Pats fans here are going to eat their words when Ryan Tannehill is the best QB in the AFC East, and those days are coming.

  24. Tannehill is a good quarterback if you like passes under 10 yards. But if you want a QB that can throw downfield or come from behind (you know, an NFL quarterback) then you might want to look elsewhere.

  25. That’s a long time to have a game manager as your starting QB. Maybe before this contract he can, oh I don’t know, make the playoffs. But hey go for it – nothing quite says mediocrity for a decade quite like the Miami Dolphins

  26. the “framework” of a seven-year contract worth $105 million currently is being discussed.

    WOW

    Is that the going price for 7-9 wins ?

  27. rjpats says:
    Feb 9, 2015 9:56 PM
    I actually like Tannehill. 2nd best qb in the AFCE, and he’s a guy you can win with if you surround him with the right pieces. He isn’t Brady or Rodgers but he can be Wilson, Flacco, Roethlisberger. Put him on a great team and he can do enough to not screw it up and make enough plays to win.
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    Fair pt -but did you ask Seahawk fans about that grouping?

  28. Tannehill may become the best qb in the east but you’ll never know that whenMike Wallace is your top target…the Bills have by far the best wr’s in the east but well , no one to throw them the ball….

    Maybe we should unify both teams .

  29. Newsflash: Tannehill’s breakthrough season was 2014. All he really needs to fix is deep ball accuracy. Even so, from the Raiders game forward, Tannehill was a huge part of why the Dolphins were in the mix.

  30. If this is the kind of money they are looking at then the language of the contract should be incentive laced with a low starting guarantee that increases each year with an emphases on playoff wins and Superbowl appearances and wins.

  31. After reading some of these comments, it becomes clear who is only repeating what they heard, and have never really watched the kid play.

    Has improved every year, a lot last year, and is as tough as coffin nail.

    He’s the right guy. Pay him.

  32. He’s a good kid. Unfortunately he has a very poor deep pass, poor footwork in the pocket, stares down receivers (too many batted balls), and has very little overall ‘feel’ for the game as he can’t hit receivers in stride, anticipate guys breaking out of routes and has about the worst pocket presence in the league. As long as RT is the Dolphins QB they will NEVER win a SB. If SB is what it is all about…and it is…you need a better QB. Sure, the homer fanboys will say he is but a discerning eye can easily see he just isn’t franchise QB material. As bad as the franchise is though they might as well sign him to that team friendly deal. After all, it isn’t like they have anyone in the organization bright enough to find and draft a franchise guy so…

  33. Most of the members of Seahawks were late round picks that were passed on by many teams multiple times.

    We Seahawks fans know what type of car Russell was given and the car it became after Russell took over.

    Don’t act as if your once in a generation talent is playing all by himself.

    finsphan says:
    Feb 9, 2015 9:16 PM

    Colts to Andrew luck: here are the keys to the ford pinto, good luck.

    Dolphins to Ryan tannehill: here are the keys to the dodge neon, try your best.

    Seahawks to Russell Wilson: here are the keys to the Ferrari, don’t scratch it.

  34. Folks are impatient. The guy played what, one season as a QB at A&M? You can actually watch his progression since being drafted. The Dolphins still need to add some pieces. Having talent on the team doesn’t mean it’s the right talent. Besides, all teams have to pay is guaranteed money, you can offer him $300 mil, but if he’s only getting 30 of it, the billionaire bosses don’t care.

  35. I am not sure what some of you on here know about Tannehill. Just worry about your own teams and not the Dolphins.
    If he had an offensive line and a defense last year things would have been a lot better. One thing for sure, he’s a very tough guy.
    Getting knocked down like he has been, and missing I think a couple of plays in 2 years is telling something.

  36. Tannehill has shown promise for a guy who has played behind a horrible offensive line, questionable coaching staff, and mediocre skill players. But, enough excuses, it’s time for this kid to bring Miami back to being legit.

  37. tedmurph says:
    Feb 9, 2015 9:26 PM
    Tannehill is no beast and he’s not one of the great young QBs. He’s pretty good though, and gets better every year. Still learning the position. I’d pay him 15 mil/yr. You could do better, but could also do a lot worse. I’d rather have him than Kaepernick or ADalton

    That is accurate….He will NEVER be a top 5 QB, but on his best year could be #6-14 …His issue, is Dolphins a fractured franchise..and always will be as long as Ross owns the team.

    Dolphins do not get it…they spend all sorts of $$$ overpaying FA’s, like the jets do…just to attract fans. Bottom half of their roster doesn’t belong in NFL.

    Makes no difference anyway, as long as Patriots in same division.

  38. He Dolphins as usual are delusional. They’re the only one who they no that college WR is a franchise QB. They think they have a good coach coach too.

  39. Love the uneducated comparison to Wilson. True he has a better team, but that us due to DEFENCE. Wilson has one off hem lest O-Lines in the game and THE worst receiving core….and still has beaten Tannehill in almost every career statistical category.

    TD’s – Wilson (72) v Tan (63)
    INTs – Wilson (26) v Tan (42)
    Rtg – Wilson (98) v Tan (84)
    Com% – Wilson (64) v Tan (62)
    Avg – Wilson (7.0) v Tan (6.2)

  40. Russell Wilson had more beautiful deep balls in the Super Bowl alone than Tannehill did all season. Whoever posted that deep ball statistic is on drugs. He was at the bottom of the league in passes over 20 yards, throwing at around a 20% completion rate.

    The kid is a top 11 QB in yardage for a pass happy team. I don’t see him ever being much more than average.

  41. I believe he will become an elite qb,remember he played wide reciever at the college level,he’s probably two years behind in experience compared to the other qb’s in his class.He has also showed improvement every year behind a makeshift offensive line.

  42. stickman18 says:
    Feb 10, 2015 9:33 AM
    Love the uneducated comparison to Wilson. True he has a better team, but that us due to DEFENCE. Wilson has one off hem lest O-Lines in the game and THE worst receiving core….and still has beaten Tannehill in almost every career statistical category.

    TD’s – Wilson (72) v Tan (63)
    INTs – Wilson (26) v Tan (42)
    Rtg – Wilson (98) v Tan (84)
    Com% – Wilson (64) v Tan (62)
    Avg – Wilson (7.0) v Tan (6.2)

    First off its DEFENSE and secondly the uneducated thing would be to say that Wilson has done more with less than Tannehill. He has dealt with historically bad offensive lines in two of his three years. Even with that in front of him he has still managed to take huge steps forward every year and is progressing very nicely for a young quarterback. In today’s world where for some reason everyone thinks their qb needs to come right out of the draft and take their team to the superbowl within two years, I’d take a progressing qb over one who has basically hit his ceiling. If you put Russel Wilson on the dolphins I guarantee there is very little talk about him. It’s really an apples and oranges conversation. There is a level of qb in the league that is very elite and only a few are there. Neither Wilson or Tannehill are there or will most likely ever be there, however they are very good young qbs. So throw all the stats that are a half yard or two percentage points different out there but its really just silly. Unless your team is winning(which Wilsons is) it doesn’t matter.

  43. Try giving THill the same offensive line as is in Seattle and his production would be off the charts. Even with the bad o-line he threw for over 500 more yards than Wilson and few were deep. Wilson is good but too small to be consider elite. Brees maybe but no even sure about that.

  44. Tannenhill is a average QB at best, so is Andy Dalton and a host of others that are getting big time money..It’s ridiculous!
    These guys will never win a super bowl, Dalton will make the playoffs due to his defense and having Hue Jackson there but that will only get him a 1 and done. Even Andrew Luck is average despite ESPN and other media praising this guy like he is great.. You see how great he is when he could only score 7 points against New England..I say it all the time The Colts play in the weakest division so you can be a average team and go to the playoffs every year. If Colts were in AFC EAST or AFC WEST they would be a 6 win team..Don’t give me “he has no weapons” excuse either..Ask any team if they would take T.Y Hilton and Reggie Wayne and they have a decent TE it’s just Luck is AVERAGE.. Same goes with Tannenhill who has a ton of weapons yet he can’t win..Dolphins should move on before they get stuck being a 8 win team for the next 8 years..Russell Wilson is also average, we seen what happens when you put the ball in his hands when it counts…He loses the Super Bowl! I would of cut him right after that play but nope Seattle instead is going to reward him for losing the Super Bowl! That whole group of QB’s are just average, I think the group of Carr,Bridgewater and Bortles might be the real future. I think in 3 years we will see if I’m right

  45. The dumb just keeps getting stronger in this thread. Tannehill has a ton of weapons? Luck is an average qb? Bortles and bridgewater are the real future? Id love to know what planet you are watching nfl games from but I would love to join you.

  46. Luck, Tannehill, Wilson, that’s the order based on general feel for the player. Luck is way of in the distance. Tannehill has a better all round game than Wilson, Wilson has a fantastic deep ball a thing of beauty and is a very nice mover avoiding pressure. If Tannehill had the deep ball he would be the real deal up there with the very best. Tannehill has had terrible protection which has hurt his deep ball progress and also has been learning the position on the fly in the NFL. His peaks have been sharp were Wilson more steady but this year and next will truly tell us who the man is.

  47. Im 27, so I don’t really have too many memories of Marino…

    However I have countless memories of some pretty legendary dolphins QBs like Cleo Lemon, John Beck, Tyler Thigpen, AJ Feeley, Chad Henne, Sage Rosen….

    Please for the love of God, pay Tannehill whatever he wants! I can’t go back to that!

  48. What this guy has done is more than Brady did at the same juncture of his career…After 3 yrs Brady had 46 td’s 26 int’s and 6500 passing yards. Tannehill 63 td’s 2o something int’s and 11,000 passing yards.

  49. And that’s the problem. Settling for an average guy just because he’s been better than crap…

  50. canetic says:
    Feb 9, 2015 11:27 PM
    Tannehill is a good quarterback if you like passes under 10 yards. But if you want a QB that can throw downfield or come from behind (you know, an NFL quarterback) then you might want to look elsewhere.

    ——————————————————————— Uhhhh, did I miss something, or were the last two teams to win the AFC quarterbacked by Peyton “flutterball” Manning and Tom “dink and dunk” Brady?

  51. That’s nice. Show me seasons Brady played. Brady won 2 Super Bowls in the first 3 seasons he played…

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