Bucs locked in on Mariota or Winston with first overall pick

AP

With the first overall pick in the 2015 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers will select Oregon quarterback Marcus Mariota or Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston.

Well, we don’t know that for sure. But it sure appears that way, especially after the Bucs cut quarterback Josh McCown on Wednesday, leaving them with only Mike Glennon and Seth Lobato under contract. This year’s quarterback class in free agency is so weak that the Bucs wouldn’t be able to sign anyone better than McCown, and at this point it’s just about inconceivable that they wouldn’t pick Mariota or Winston.

The Tampa Tribune says the Bucs were already locked in on Mariota or Winston even before the decision to cut McCown, even if they’re not totally sold on Mariota as an NFL-style passer, or on Winston as a person they want to be the face of their franchise. Over the next two months, Tampa Bay will spend countless hours scrutinizing the two quarterbacks to figure out which is of greater concern, Mariota’s on-field shortcomings or Winston’s off-field shortcomings.

But it appears that the Bucs are down to one of those two quarterbacks. Either Mariota or Winston is the Bucs’ quarterback of the future.

80 responses to “Bucs locked in on Mariota or Winston with first overall pick

  1. Headline could read Bucs About To Make Another Personnel Mistake. They shold trade the top pick for a bunch of cheap, young talent. Use McCown’s money to sign Suh. Develop Glennon.

  2. Count on no matter what the Bucs do, it will have the worst possible outcome. Especially if they let Lovie make the decision.

  3. Whacking McGown is dumb–I would certainly think he would have renegotiated, and he’s a heck of a lot better QB Coach than most of them currently employed…..Lovie strikes again….Rex is our QB.

  4. Mariota lacks NFL accuracy and is a project as a pocket passer. Winston does not have maturity and character to handle the responsibility of being an NFL quarterback. It’s very simple. The pick should be either Leonard Williams or Randy Gregory. Somehow the Bucs will find a way to screw this up.

  5. Do you take the kid that needs some time to develop on the field, or the one that needs to develop from a maturity standpoint? Tough call for the Bucs on this one.

  6. Mariota has to be the first qb taken off the boards.
    Mariota as shown discipline, good decision making and an ability to win at the college level. Maybe not a sure fire #1 qb (ala Luck or P.Manning), he still stands heads and shoulders above his competition. I would trust him with my franchise.

    Winston, not so much. Given the apparent immaturity and questionable decision making of Jameis Winston, a team really has to step back and consider if he would be the type of person willing to put in the work needed to be a NFL caliber quarter back. Not sure I would use more than a third round pick on him.

  7. Haha sucks to be them. I was like 13 years old the last time the patriots had a quarterback controversy. And we got Tom Brady out of it. #oneforthethumb

  8. You can teach a QB mechanics, to his limit, and then natural talent and initiative must complete the process.
    Character is learned from childhood, from family and ones own respect for themselves. Very few have proved exception to this and even then, as in alcoholism, the subject is clean one day at a time. M. Vick has been quiet for some time. Hope he can finish his career and life in this fashion. ( Take Mariota )

  9. One needs a QB developer. The other needs a babysitter. Not exactly what Lovie needs considering he has to win next year to keep his job. And considering is history with QBs and personnel decisions in general, I don’t see this ending well.

  10. As a Panthers fan, I want them to take Mariota, who is a play or two from being a WR. I don’t see his skill set meshing with Lovie Smith’s philosophy.

    I don’t believe they are seriously considering NOT taking Winston, who’s off the field antics could explode, but on the field, he is the guy and it’s not that close.

  11. I have been a die heart fan of the Buccaneers since thier inception in 1976 & they’ve only done 4 REALLY smart personel moves…Leroy Selmon #1 pick…Jon Gruden …..Derrick Brooks….& John Lynch. I am really crossing my fingers on this one. I think they SHOULD trade the pick for a boatload of picks in 2015 and a 1st round pick in 2016. We have alot of areas to shore up on this team. The Eagles are ripe for the pickings because Kelly will mortgage the future for Mariota.

  12. I think Mariota has the will to be a great QB all I hear is what good character he has and that’ll translate well to the nfl game. As for Jameis I hope that he realizes that his talent will only get him so far and that he needs to hit the film room very hard when he becomes a pro. If a guy is open in college he’s open but in the pro game if you see a guy open most likely it’s too late and he will be covered by the time you throw it

  13. Mariota will be like Aaron Rodgers except a little quicker with the release and quicker on the run….It’s a new day in Tampa Bay indeed !

  14. Does this mean Glennon will start at the beginning of 2015 because he is more experienced (and Lovie LOVES a QB with experience as shown with McCown)?

  15. My gut tells me they take the more pro-ready QB in Winston.

    Doubtful that he ever lives up to hype/potential, probably will be similar to Vince Young; win some games early on, show some flashes of potential, perhaps even make a playoff run within the first 3 years of career [if the Bucs can build a better team].

    However I do not see him ever winning a Super Bowl or becoming a top 10 QB in the NFL.

  16. Any truth to the rumor that the Buc’s have NEVER had a qb prospect that they drafted sign a second contract?

  17. If they draft Winston they had better hire a team of full time babysitters to look after him 24/7.

  18. And another desperate team (or two) will take QB(s) in the Top 5 even though they aren’t even close to one of the 5 best players available. It happens every year.

  19. On talent alone, it’s Winston. He can make every NFL throw. Mariota isn’t accurate and doesn’t have a strong arm, but he isn’t a train wreck off the field like Winston is. Which is worse?

  20. They could very well trade the pick if another team throws everything and the kitchen sink at them.

    In fact, I’m almost expecting that.

    Almost.

  21. I do think you can definitely go wrong with either of these guys. I am pretty sure that Winston simply cannot be counted on to keep his head on straight. We have seen this show before honestly.

    As for Mariota..he seems like a good guy, but it does appear that he could simply be a product of the Oregon system. The Ducks tend to prey on lesser opponents, who lack the speed they have. This will not be the case in the NFL. I just see him as a poor man’s RGIII…

  22. Im a Cowboys fan but givin that both of the two qbs are prob busts why not trade down a bit and take a shot on whichever one is left and get maybe another second rounder out of the deal anyways just a thought

  23. Mariota = Joey Harrington.
    Winston = Ryan Leaf.
    In all seriousness, I’d take Gregory or Williams at #1. Those 2 QB’s have too many “boom or bust” questions.

  24. Bucs are locked in on failing. Going to go after a ‘franchise’ qb but have offensive no line to protect or vet to sit behind How many times does this actually work out of the times it fails?

  25. If they both had the same off-field behavior it would be a no-brainer. The only reason Mariota is in the discussion at #1 is because of Winston’s behavior issues. On field talent says Winston is the pick. Off field issues says be very careful about him being the face of the franchise. I would pick Winston (if interview goes well) and assign a mentor and a structured environment to help him adapt.

  26. Winston had it pretty easy at FSU. It was a dominate team he had an effective role in, dominating subpar opposition. He has a good arm, but it’s not great. I imagine Bortles, Bridgewater or Carr would have faired similarly or better in the Seminole offense without the off field issues. But hey if a team wants to manage the drama?

  27. This could totally end up being a Peyton Manning or Ryan Leaf situation.

    Hope the Bucs get it right.

    Otherwise, they may never live it down.

  28. If they had any sense they would trade out of that pick and continue to develop Glennon. They won’t though, and they will continue to be a bad football team.

  29. For those comparing Mariota to “other Oregon QBs” and what not…Montana ran a triple option at Notre Dame and thrived in a passing west coast offense. Steve Young was a mobile guy who learned to pass first. There have been mobile QBs that ran spread Is and translated to the NFL. The Hawks, Panthers, Niners, and Skins (first year) built offenses around the QBs talents. When you try to ask a guy to do more than his skill set is when you get into trouble.

    Mariota will be just fine with the right playbook. Shows great ability to improve and adjust as he has done steadily through college. He’s a gamer.

  30. 75% of the people I knew in college were as or more immature as Jameis.

    People mature as they get older… didnt you?

    (Oh and the other 25%? I dont hang with nerds…)

  31. Whomever drafts Winston is in for a long, long losing streak. He doesn’t exhibit any of the qualities you want mentally in a QB. But whatever, the Buc’s suck anyway and Lovie is awful so they deserve each other.

  32. Name the last successful QB from ANY of the schools in Florida.

    Name the last elite QB who won the Heisman trophy in the last 25 years or so since 1989.

  33. ragnarthemagnificent says:
    Feb 12, 2015 1:00 PM
    Whomever drafts Winston is in for a long, long losing streak. He doesn’t exhibit any of the qualities you want mentally in a QB. But whatever, the Buc’s suck anyway and Lovie is awful so they deserve each other.

    He only has an extremely high football IQ and has played well under a lot of adversity all year. So what exactly do you mean by that?

  34. The success rate of QBs raised in gimmick offenses at the NFL level is pretty low … as in nil.

    I’m not saying “take Winston”, I’m saying DO NOT hook your franchise to Mariota.

  35. Can you imagine using the top overall pick for Jameis Winston?!?!? This must be the weakest draft in years.

  36. I have been a die heart fan of the Buccaneers since thier inception in 1976 & they’ve only done 4 REALLY smart personel moves…Leroy Selmon #1 pick…Jon Gruden …..Derrick Brooks….& John Lynch. I am really crossing my fingers on this one. I think they SHOULD trade the pick for a boatload of picks in 2015 and a 1st round pick in 2016. We have alot of areas to shore up on this team. The Eagles are ripe for the pickings because Kelly will mortgage the future for Mariota.

    What about Ronde Barber? If you ask me Hardy Nickerson and Warrick Dunn weren’t too shabby either.

  37. I really don’t care about any perceived ‘NFL game readiness’ advantage that Winston might have over Mariotta. I, simply, would want NOTHING to do with paying this train wreck significant money to be the face of my franchise. Just on General Principal. People need to stop rewarding stupidity. The Manziel rookie season debacle only steels my argument.

    If Mariotta’s not The Guy, trade down, and pick up talent in more numbers. Find your franchise QB next year. The Bucs aren’t going to compete this year, so take a long-term approach to building the franchise.

  38. Half of you jokers should file an application for an analyst gig on one of the fathead networks.

    The Buccaneers are one solid quarterback and two good or good offensive linemen away from being contenders for the playoffs.

    Glennon is serviceable. Serviceable, in today’s game, makes the postseason but never makes it to the big dance. If you are satisfied with just making it to a wild card, stick with him.

    Winston is ready to win now. Pair him with Mike Evans and we’ll have a top five duo for years to come. He’s not as mobile as Mariota, but he’s not the statue Glennon is, either.

    People who have never met him, who only read the papers or what the media says, are calling him a rapist when he very may well have been in a messed up situation with a girl who went emotionally unstable when he wanted a fling and she wanted something more.

    There are people on this board who cheat on their significant others, maybe even abuse them, or who are just downright unpleasant, ugly people to be around.

    Draft Jameis and we will win games. I trust in Mr. Derrick Brooks and Lovie Smith as grown men to show the 21 YEAR OLD kid that playtime is over.

    How many of us were as mature as Mariota when we were 21? I think personal adversity builds grit and character, especially when one puts himself is such a situation.

  39. Has to be Winston. He’s the better option — either way, I’m glad McCown is gone. I’ll happily support either of them as our QB, but Winston is the better fit regardless of my bias.

  40. My biggest problem with drafting Jameis Winston with the #1 pick in the 2015 NFL Draft is I cannot get this image out of my mind of a grown man wearing Pampers. Seriously, does anyone think Jameis is changing his own soiled diapers yet? Fact. My 4 year old daughter is more mature than lil Jameis. She’s courteous, competitive, humble, eager to learn and not full of herself.

    Drafting Jameis Winston with the #1 pick sets the expectation he is ready to be a leader of men. A leader of men whose maturity level has yet to exceed that of a 4 year old girl? Here comes that image of a grown man wearing Pampers…or Huggies ultra fit if you prefer.

  41. Jameis Winston belongs in the same place that you would toss a soiled diaper. Why would any team waste their pick on a “problem” of such magnitude?

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