Robinson reiterates that Marshawn is considering retirement

AP

Seahawks running back Marshawn Lynch either doesn’t know whether he wants to play football any longer — or he’s pulling off one of the all-time great misdirections.

The Seahawks still don’t know whether Lynch’s grinning-in-disbelief exit from the playing field at the Super Bowl will be his final appearance in an NFL uniform. Folks close to Lynch claim they don’t know, either.

Former Seahawks fullback (and current NFL Media analyst) Michael Robinson reiterated on Thursday in an appearance on 710 ESPN in Seattle that he doesn’t know whether Lynch will play in 2015 — and Robinson had just spoken to Lynch before doing the interview.

I don’t know,” Robinson said, via Bob Condotta of the Seattle Times. “I don’t think Marshawn knows yet. . . . I don’t know what a timeline is, guys. I would guess that Marshawn doesn’t even really know what a timeline is. Probably going to be a feel thing and we’ll just see like everybody else.”

The problem for the Seahawks is that, if Lynch isn’t going to play, they need to know. Soon. With other options potentially available via trade or free agency, they could end up holding the bag if Lynch ends up walking away. Or the Seahawks could end up acquiring a veteran they may not need — or burning a draft pick on a tailback when they could have focused on filling a different position.

“Has he had enough football? You can’t ask him that right after the season because your body is telling you ‘yes’,” Robinson said. “Right now you just have to let him wait it out, see how the off-season goes, let him get his body right again, and then you will see if he wants to come back or not.”

So how can the Seahawks get a “yes” out of Marshawn before March 10, the start of the new league year? The easy solution would be to throw a little more money onto the pile, enough to get him to commit.

Or maybe the Seahawks could call his bluff. If Lynch retires, he’ll owe the Seahawks $1.5 million in prorated bonus money.  He knows it, the team knows it, and no one involved in this dance needs to mention it.

The best move could be to publicly acknowledge that Lynch doesn’t know whether he’s going to play, but to privately assume he won’t be interested in writing a check for $1.5 million, especially with the Seahawks apparently willing to pay him a lot more than $7 million to play in 2015.

78 responses to “Robinson reiterates that Marshawn is considering retirement

  1. Look at me … look at me … over here … I’m thinking about retiring you know … look at me.

  2. So he was holding out for a new long term deal last year, but now that he sees he makes headlines with his adversarial, leave me alone attitude, he’s saying he’s going to retire maybe. But only maybe, so everyone chases him down. He loves the media, drama, and attention while pretending to hate the media, drama, and attention.

    I hope he does retire, just go away…

  3. Good, go away. Tired of all the attention and page space this idiot keeps getting when I’m trying to read about football news.

    Dude is like a Kardashian when his attention grabbing antics.

  4. floriotime beat me to it.

    Look at me look at me look at me Meshawn.

    I would like to predict that he will NOT retire. Next year when he’s giving one of his stupid press conferences, we’ll look back and snort at this notion in knowing fashion.

  5. First Peyton and now Lynch are playing the “holding out for more money under the empty threat of retiring” game. Take note Luck and Wilson. this is how you negotiate.

  6. Marshawn has been all about attention his whole career. He gets more attention now that he doesn’t talk to the media then he ever has before.

  7. Guy looks so sick & uncomfortable in front of large groups of reporters, &wants to be left alone so bad that he was getting fined large chunks of the money he literally risks life and limb for. But PFT commenters somehow thinks he’s doing it all for attention LOLWUT? who in their right mind would go “being the best back in the league doesnt get me enough attention, let me just get fined a whole lot of money and piss reporters off so they can paint me in a negative light.” Lmao Football fans are a special breed.

  8. So apparently crotch grabbing is the newest way to get a pay increase.

    Nice message your sending there Seattle.

    Can’t wait to see the 12-year olds in my sons pee-wee league grabbing their crotches every time they score.

    The most pathetic, classless team in the NFL.

  9. I still wonder about how Lynch was smiling walking off the field as they had just lost the Super Bowl. Especially how he put his helmet on while walking past Pete to the bench.

    Why smiling? Because he didn’t get the ball?

    Why put the helmet on? To try and hide the smile from Pete? To signal to Pete “don’t talk to me?”

    We all know Marshawn moves to his own beat. But that whole episode was kind of strange to me.

  10. Love Lynch and I’m anti-Seahawks everything. He’s giving you all a lesson in shrewd negotiating.

    What do you all think will get the Seahawks to dig deeper in their pockets?

    A) Lynch professing his love for Seattle and the desire to win more SBs and finish his career a Seahawk?

    B) Lynch toying with Seattle knowing that he’s the engine that fuels that train?

    Strahan played the same “contemplating retirement card” in 07′ and got PAID!

  11. Well, if Peyton & Lynch both retire this year, they will have something in common. “One and Done”, both have a single SuperBowl ring.at least Lynch will have a very excellent reason …. Not having to talk to Reporters again!

  12. Why would he retire now, when his team has a shot at a historic 3-peat after he scored the game winning touchdown from 1 yard out to win the SB just two weeks ago?

    Oh, wait…

  13. What do you all think will get the Seahawks to dig deeper in their pockets?

    Nothing. I’m relatively certain John Schneider has a ballpark figure that he’s already discussed with Lynch’s agent. He has other deals to negotiate, so he can’t waste time and/or money waiting to hear back.

    This will be similar to last year, where Schneider made an offer in March and left Lynch to think about it. Lynch held out as long as possible, then came in and accepted the deal.

  14. Maybe Marshawn will be John Riggins 2.0.

    Remember how Riggins retired? For one year? And then changed his mind? (Saying, “I’m bored. I’m broke. I’m back.) He then went on to have the most successful post 30-year-old running seasons in NFL history.

  15. Good retire. Because now we will all see that Russell Wilson really is a mediocre QB. Wilson is overrated and with no Lynch he is far worse than mediocre.

    Seattle won’t even make the playoffs this upcoming season if Lynch retires.

  16. Tired of his childishness anyways. Go away troll. You are almost as fake and corny as Russell Wilson. What kind of grown man can’t bring himself to answer a couple questions after the ballgame? An attention seeker.

  17. I don’t get the hatred of this guy. How is refusing to talk to the press a form of attention seeking? I think he just wants to do his job and then go home and enjoy himself. I hope he plays at least a few more years because he is ridiculously entertaining on the field and isn’t that the point of all this?

  18. Doesn’t make sense. Plenty left in the tank. Almost guaranteed to hit 10,000 yards.

    Even as aloof as he appears to be, he must know his own stats and understand what he is on the cusp of.

    He’s bluffing.

  19. This dude is just a drama queen now. His shtick has become old. Just freaking retire, then. Who cares.

  20. abninf

    How can he be a drama queen when he never says anything? Seriously! Any drama around Marshawn Lynch is created by the real drama queen(s) – a (relatively) few fans and the media, who are voracious and insatiable and don’t know what to do with a guy who knows who he is and what his priorities are, and feels no need to share any of that with anyone outside his personal circle. He also takes care of business on the field better than any RB in the NFL.

    Any drama you perceive comes from the observer, not from the ‘observed’. Find a different target more worthy of your hatred.

  21. He doesn’t owe Seattle anything. So what if he’s undecided? He has every right to take his time and think about it. He’s not paid to help them manage the team. He’s paid to be a running back. Let those who get paid to manage the roster worry about covering all of their bases.

    Easy to see why he hates you drama queens in the press.

  22. I hope Marshawn Lynch and the Seahawks come to terms soon. Marshawn is one of those players that you feel something magical could happen each time he touches the ball-and often does.

  23. The media, and those who believe the media, are the only ones that don’t love Marshawn. His coaches, teammates and fans who know him, love him.

    Your hate proves your ignorance.

  24. “I don’t know what a timeline is, guys. I would guess that Marshawn doesn’t even really know what a timeline is.”

    Somebody on the Seahawks has to own a dictionary. Please tell Robinson what a ‘timeline’ is. As a TV personality, you’d think he’d know something about research. ‘Timeline’ is not a difficult concept. Or maybe he just mis-spoke and was actually referring to Lynch’s particular timeline. That’d be my guess. In which case: He’s a TV football analyst, he should know or learn how to speak clearly and say what he really means.

    Until then, somebody ought to stuff a sock in Robinson’s mouth. Purporting to speak ‘for’ Lynch is not a good look for him. 35 comments so far on this post, most of them based on Robinson’s words rather than on anything Lynch has said. And it’s unlikely that Lynch is knowingly using Robinson as a conduit to the media.

    That should tell you something.

  25. Lynch is a great player with the maturity of a 5 year old.

    Would not shed a single tear if I never hear of this dbag again.

  26. I remember when Barry Sander’s waited until mid-Summer before letting the Lions know. That can screw the team in a hurry. I can understand the predicament it can cause.

  27. Getting a five million dollar a year raise. Ten million next year. Won’t retire. All the Oakland raiders fans need to stop dreaming that he’s gonna go there. He’s under contract even if he retires. Want him? Same as Carson Palmer deal. A first and a second round pick. Remember how well that went for Oakland? He did nothing and set your franchise back years by not not having young talent

  28. “tattooit says:
    Feb 13, 2015 1:04 PM
    He doesn’t owe Seattle anything. So what if he’s undecided? He has every right to take his time and think about it. He’s not paid to help them manage the team. He’s paid to be a running back. Let those who get paid to manage the roster worry about covering all of their bases.

    Easy to see why he hates you drama queens in the press.”

    Amen! Right on! Tell it like it is! Yeah! Your astute comment deserves so much more than a mere ‘thumbs up’ click.

  29. 12brady2moss81 says:
    Feb 13, 2015 11:41 AM

    Guy looks so sick & uncomfortable in front of large groups of reporters, &wants to be left alone so bad that he was getting fined large chunks of the money he literally risks life and limb for. But PFT commenters somehow thinks he’s doing it all for attention LOLWUT? who in their right mind would go “being the best back in the league doesnt get me enough attention, let me just get fined a whole lot of money and piss reporters off so they can paint me in a negative light.” Lmao Football fans are a special breed.

    Umm, grabbing his crotch in the endzone is seeking attention.. Making people wonder if your going to retire when everyone knows you’re going to play is seeking attention. And you call other posters special breeds?

  30. “So how can the Seahawks get a “yes” out of Marshawn before March 10, the start of the new league year? The easy solution would be to throw a little more money onto the pile, enough to get him to commit.”

    So he’s just angling for more money, what a shock.

  31. Nearly everyone here is just proving ML’s reason for not talking to the media.

    You all hate the “nice” guys that give us clichés all day… you hate the “evil” guys that speak their minds… you hate the “idiot” guys that won’t talk at all.

    What in god’s name do you want?!

  32. I’ve got to hand it to Marshawn, he certainly understands marketing, supply and demand. When Favre did it everyone was on pins and needles but he wasn’t a bad guy. If Marshawn does it he’s a bad guy. doh’k.

  33. Marshawn knows Seattle has a bazillion dollar salary cap. He is going for the cash. He can read, and he knows how smart Seahawks fans are. Seahawks fans think everyone on the team should be signed for 20 million per year, and that is what Marshawn is holding out for. After they sign Lynch to 20 million, they can extend Wilson for 30 million and go after Suh for 20 million. No problem, they are 30 million under the cap.

  34. Floratiotime etc.: how is this a “look at me” move? Marshawn hasn’t said ANYTHING. This is all just speculation from other people and media. Robinson is milking this hard.

    And patriots fans coming to comment: You won. Congrats. Enjoy it. Are you scared for next season? Why are you so interested in the Seahawksin the offseason?

    Broncos fans: 43-8

  35. Marshawn hasn’t said a word, yet he’s receiving blame for making media headlines…is this real life?

    Sheeple will be sheeple, I guess.

  36. jmc8888 says:

    Throw money at him? Good plan.

    The problem is, they have a bunch of players they need to throw A LOT of money at.
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    Which is why it’s good to have $25 million in cap space this year and $67 million next year.

  37. shlort says:

    Marshawn knows Seattle has a bazillion dollar salary cap. He is going for the cash. He can read, and he knows how smart Seahawks fans are. Seahawks fans think everyone on the team should be signed for 20 million per year, and that is what Marshawn is holding out for. After they sign Lynch to 20 million, they can extend Wilson for 30 million and go after Suh for 20 million. No problem, they are 30 million under the cap.
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    You don’t understand a thing about how the cap works. They could easily do that, plus Wagner. $67 million in cap space for 2016 will do that for ‘ya.

  38. 2019 Headline Reads: Marshawn Lynch sells Super Bowl 48 Ring to pay off debts.

    Go ahead and retire and live the lifestyle you live. See how long before it catches up to you.

    From BEAST MODE to BROKE MODE in no time.

  39. A blurb about a guy saying nothing, about a guy saying nothing.

    This is a prime example of how much a connected world has changed sports media for the worse.

  40. I sure hope he announces something soon so we don’t have to read another 421 word post with no new information.

    Maybe next time you could just post that you have no new information and save us all some time.

  41. Simple,
    Plan for him not to return.
    Make moves based on him not returning.
    If he retires fine, you prepared for it.
    If he doesn’t retire, decide based on the moves you made to cut him or not, or how big of a contract to offer.
    But don’t be in any rush. “make up your mind” to cut him (or not) as late as possible, so his options to sign elsewhere are limited if you do.

    If he can leave Seattle hanging being indecisive, they can do the same.

    He’s not going to break the bank going elsewhere. Sure he’ll get a bonus and the numbers for year 2 and 3 will look pretty. But any contract will make him easy to cut if the impending breakdown arrives.

  42. Seahawkboymike, you actually think you are smart, right?

    Seahawks have exactly 23,195,405 in cap space for this year. They have like 66 million for next year. The reason they have 66 million for next year is because contracts will be expiring and some of them are core players that will have to be paid. Not to mention, Wilson will be getting 20 million or more of that money. Also, any signing bonuses that roll over to 2016 will come off that 66 million. Oh, and contracts for players they draft this year and in 2016 will come off of that 66 million. Oh, if they sign any free agents to contracts that pay them in 2016, that money will come off of there too. It also assumes the cap will rise to 150 million.

    I can walk you through it step by step if you need me to. I get the salary cap. Do you understand it? Or are you just hoping that the Seahawks salary cap is in great condition. If you think that having 23 million this year to sign guys and 66 million next year is awesome, wait until 2018 when the Seahawks will have 130 million in cap space. That is assuming they don’t sign any players between now and then and that the cap goes up to 170 million that year.

    Any estimates for future cap does not consider anything but current contracts. Future contracts go against that cap space. Hope you enjoyed the lesson.

  43. IWho cares if he wants to retire, he has every right to walk away if he wants. He pretty much carried that Seahawks team for years before they really kicked off, that amount of work load is probably double the amount of any normal RB in the league. I mean Sanders walked away eaarly, so did Jim Brown and they didn’t really like talking to the media either. I think the fact that the Seahawks get a bad rap in the media already anything a player does is front-page news

  44. Randy Gerbschmidt says:
    Feb 13, 2015 2:36 PM

    2019 Headline Reads: Marshawn Lynch sells Super Bowl 48 Ring to pay off debts.

    Go ahead and retire and live the lifestyle you live. See how long before it catches up to you.

    From BEAST MODE to BROKE MODE in no time.

    ———–

    Randy! Good to hear from you, see you Saturday! Go Packers!

  45. Lynch is not considering retirement. Marshawn is simply holding out so that the team will increase their offer.

    Marshawn, while being the worst orator in history, knows how to play the Seahawks front office like a Stradivarius.

  46. Those of you that think that Seattle should hire DeMarco Murray are deluded. Seattle can’t afford to pay DeMarco.

    DeMarco will be the highest paid RB in the League. Lynch, while a great RB, is nearing the end of his career.

  47. shlort:

    Every time you post you prove me right. And I don’t “think” I’m smart, but I know I’m smarter than you.

    shlort says:

    “Seahawkboymike, you actually think you are smart, right?

    Seahawks have exactly 23,195,405 in cap space for this year. They have like 66 million for next year. The reason they have 66 million for next year is because contracts will be expiring and some of them are core players that will have to be paid.”
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    Core players already under contract and accounted for in that $67 million cap figure:

    Sherman
    Thomas
    Bennett
    Avril
    Wright
    Chancellor
    Baldwin
    Unger
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    “Not to mention, Wilson will be getting 20 million or more of that money. ”

    A $20 million per year average doesn’t mean a $20 million cap hit. The Seahawks will probably pay Wilson $30 million when he signs and his cap number will be $7-9 million.
    ———————————————————-
    “Also, any signing bonuses that roll over to 2016 will come off that 66 million.”

    — Already accounted for in that $67 million figure.

    “Oh, and contracts for players they draft this year and in 2016 will come off of that 66 million.”

    — $10 million, at best, and the cap will go up by twice that in the next 2 years.

    “Oh, if they sign any free agents to contracts that pay them in 2016, that money will come off of there too.”

    — That’s what $67 million in cap space is for, Einstein.

    “It also assumes the cap will rise to 150 million.”

    — It will be more than that.

    “I can walk you through it step by step if you need me to. I get the salary cap.”

    — Obviously you do not. Even after extending Wilson, Wagner, Mebane and Okung and signing Suh, the Seahawks should still have $20 million plus in 2016.

    “Do you understand it?”

    Obviously far better than you. You don’t even know the difference between a per year average and a cap figure.

    I can’t wait to see you in here whining after the Seahawks pull this all off.

  48. Seahawkboymike, you can claim you know, understand and really get it, but you do not.

    That was an interesting process you came up with there. problem is, you have no idea how it works. Your definition of having a guy locked up is interesting as well.

    Most of the contracts expire soon. Some will need to be reworked this year with very limited cap space and many will have to be reworked next year. That’ll suck up all that cap space. I won’t list all the players, but you can look it up like I have. Lots of talent needs to get paid to keep the team somewhat intact. Forget about signing big money free agents. Seattle won’t even be able to keep all the guys they have.

    There are several websites that can be found easily that will tell you cap information and contract information.

    8 guys under contract past 2016. A whole bunch that expire n 2016 and a whole bunch that expire this year. That is what they have going on there. Like it or not, what I am telling you is how it is. No fantasy land stuff from my end. You can dream about all those things you wrote, but reality is much, much different. Seattle getting lucky in the draft is going to hurt them. So will overpaying Wilson, but they will have to. Seattle is on the same road as San Francisco.

  49. I hope he negotiates some guaranteed money to pay all of his fines. No hit on the cap and he can just be himself without fear of having to pay through the teeth for it. It’d be great to see him just cut loose during his last year.

  50. He’s not retiring. It’s his agent leaking out info to gain leverage and thus get more money for his client from the Seahawks or, perhaps, elsewhere. He wants that paper.

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