Lions G.M. “very optimistic” Ndamukong Suh deal is close

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Lions General Manager Martin Mayhew wasn’t able to step to the podium today and deliver news of a done deal (as Arizona’s Steve Keim was able to with Larry Fitzgerald), but he did offer a bit of somewhat surprising news Wednesday at the NFL Scouting Combine.

Mayhew sounded more than a little positive about a deal for defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh.

“Very optimistic we’ll get something done,” Mayhew said. “I don’t have a timetable on when it’s going to happen, but I feel good about it.”

That would be a huge move, involving huge money for the Lions if it’s as close as Mayhew indicated.

Mayhew said the deal wasn’t done, but the “essential elements” were in place for a new deal.

Until we hear from Suh’s camp on this one, it’s hard to know how close they actually are.

But Mayhew stepped to the podium and brought it up unbidden, and sounded like a man with a huge burden off his shoulders.

56 responses to “Lions G.M. “very optimistic” Ndamukong Suh deal is close

  1. 6yrs $101m with $55m guaranteed. It’s gonna cost the Lions about $17m this season leaving them with around $4m of cap space before any cuts are made. If the Lions have a mediocre draft they’ll be a really good team next season.

  2. How? Did they raise the salary cap $25 Million dollars?
    Don’t get me wrong… I would love to re-sign him, but is it going to destroy our Salary cap? Guess we will have to wait.

  3. Seattle doesn’t have the cap space, with contracts for Russell and Bobby Wagner this offseason, in addition to trying to also resign Maxwell and Carpenter and others that the team really needs to keep moving forward.

    Where someone says he wants to play in Seattle (who wouldn’t want to play for the best ‘future’ franchise in the NFL) and what the reality is under the salary cap are two separate issues. He won’t be a Seahawk. Bummer, but true.

    js

  4. Suh is an amazing player and dominant interior lineman. Detroit is wise to keep him. He plays day in and day out. Keep him out of the NFC West. My only other preference is that he goes to the AFC.

  5. suhmonster90 says: Feb 18, 2015 1:49 PM

    Yes, it must be shocking to the PFT community that a playoff team would lock up their best player.
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    Won’t be a playoff team too many more times with that much cap space tied up in three players. Especially with one of those players being Matt “Jay Cutler 2.0” Stafford.

  6. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah……….”Suh’s response……..”Show me the money…100 million +”

  7. I thought they only had $15M in cap space? He’s the best DT in the NFL, but it looks like there will be quite a bit of can kicking down the proverbial salary-cap road in Detroit.

  8. lionsdraftguy says:
    Feb 18, 2015 2:43 PM
    Thats bad news for all the PFT trash talkers who talked crap about Suh but deep down was really hoping their team signed him.
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    I wouldn’t want an interior defensive lineman that will cost $15+ mil a year. Not to mention, one that may or may not be facing a suspension after every game he plays.

    Face it, he isn’t a QB, or a player that can make the difference between a win and a loss. Double team him, and he isn’t a constant threat, because he’s an interior lineman. JJ Watt is the best defensive player, and Houston still can’t win.

  9. that sounds well enough…but there is no deal until the fat lady has sung…there’s not even a chirp yet…good for the Lions if they can get it done

  10. maybe they do, but how can they sign anybody else…especially next year, when their starting left tackle Reiff is a UFA next year, along with starting DE Jason Jones, starting linebackers Lewis, and Whitehead, and their safety Ihedigbo………kiss them all goodbye next year, let alone you other starting free agents this year that are all free agents… DB- Mathis, OLB Palmer, and your starting LG, OC, and RT……is this GM a dufus……sign one guy at the expense of the future.

  11. Why wouldn’t he field offers from numerous teams before making his decision? This is his one contract to be set for life.

    I’m pretty sure he was set for life with his rookie deal.

  12. It doesn’t matter how many people he steps on or kicks.. He’s gonna use those same feet to walk right to the bank.

  13. 9,6 mil is his cap hit for the coming year, no matter what. Since he already counts for that due to past restructuring, re-signing him is not as big a hit as most seem to think.

  14. Everyone harping on about the Lions’ cap woes are overlooking how much production they’ve gotten out of their rookie classes the last two years (Eric Ebron and Kyle Van Noy aside… and there’s still time for both), as well as cheap street free agents. Suh being re-signed will necessitate some hard choices, probably including cutting Reggie Bush, and not re-signing Nick Fairley (but he’s always injured anyway).

    There will probably need to be a renegotiation of Megatron’s contract in the near future as well, maybe as soon as next year, to prevent all three crippling next year’s cap. But if the Lions can keep hitting on starters in the draft (Warford, Swanson, Slay, Quin, Levy, Ansah, Jones) and making wise free-angency decisions (Ighedibo, Mathis, Bell, especially Golden Tate even though he cost plenty of $$$) then they really can position themselves as contenders, especially as their QB situation is locked up for the foreseeable future.

  15. Get mad all you want it is Suh that said he wants to be a Seahawk not me!!! I dont blame him though he wants on a championship team not a joke. You guys can keep Tate.

  16. @tap79, Yes he said it. However, where in the cap world of the NFL, how does Seattle possibly create the room to sign him and keep their core intact?

  17. Haha, looks like you guys don’t like my Matt Stafford – Jay Cutler comparison. Let us look at the career stats:

    Matt Stafford – 59.6% completion, 83.6 passer rating, 1.54/1 touchdown/INT ratio, 7.0 yards per passing attempt.

    Jay Cutler – 61.7% completion, 85.2 passer rating, 1.41/1 touchdown/INT ratio, 7.2 yards per passing attempt.

    Seems like a pretty fair comparison to me. Almost identical stats. Though there is one difference…. Jay Cutler won one playoff game in his first six seasons, while Stafford has won zero.

  18. @ Lions draft -I am very glad he had done so much better with your team…. How many superbowls have you been too again? Sure looks like Tate is helping you get there huh LOL.

    At silver dear- The cap numbers have already been run… Depending on wilsons contract all they would have to do is wave Mebane and Mcdaniel who they will likely become cap causalities anyway. IF they let Miller walk they would have plenty of cap to sign Suh.. It is not a pipe dream the numbers are real.

  19. zvikes says: Feb 18, 2015 1:53 PM

    Hasn’t he been saying that since this time last year?

    Yes, he has, and as a Lions’ fan, I don’t believe a word of it. This one is heavily edited, but I saw all the quotes elsewhere, and the “key elements” are Suh likes the coach, likes his team-mates, and wants to win, and we can win right now. That’s it. no numbers, no term, no “framework of a deal,” nothing substantial.

    However, for all the people saying the Lions can’t make it work, just keep in mind that they had a 22M cap hit for him this year, and the 9M in “dead money” for next year can be spread over the length of a new deal.

    So for comparison, if they get him at 17M for 6 years (102M) the cap hit would be 18.5M/year. Yeah it is high, but it’s 3.5M less than last year, and that didn’t work out so bad. It is do-able, I just think Mayhew is blowing a little sunshine right now. and Suh is gonna test that market.

  20. If I’m his agent I tell him to leave for 2 reasons. 1-Money. 2-A new team will give him the opportunity to create a new image. Like it or not, he has the image as a very dirty player with the Lions. I don’t think the image is an accurate reflection, but it is established. A new team allows him a fresh start to build a new image. He’s a great player, but I think he is gone.

  21. I’m not saying I know for sure if he’ll stay or if he’ll go, but something that has always baffled me is why everyone and their mother just kneeeeeeeeeeew he wasn’t staying in Detroit. I just don’t get where such a strong opinion comes from.

    A perfect example of this is the very first comment on this page…”I’m finding this hard to believe”. Uuuuuuummmm….why?

  22. Craig Gallagher says:
    Feb 18, 2015 4:18 PM
    Everyone harping on about the Lions’ cap woes are overlooking how much production they’ve gotten out of their rookie classes the last two years (Eric Ebron and Kyle Van Noy aside… and there’s still time for both), as well as cheap street free agents. Suh being re-signed will necessitate some hard choices, probably including cutting Reggie Bush, and not re-signing Nick Fairley (but he’s always injured anyway).

    There will probably need to be a renegotiation of Megatron’s contract in the near future as well, maybe as soon as next year, to prevent all three crippling next year’s cap. But if the Lions can keep hitting on starters in the draft (Warford, Swanson, Slay, Quin, Levy, Ansah, Jones) and making wise free-angency decisions (Ighedibo, Mathis, Bell, especially Golden Tate even though he cost plenty of $$$) then they really can position themselves as contenders, especially as their QB situation is locked up for the foreseeable future. ———————————————————————————————————————————————————— if you think your qb situation is all locked up, you are in for a rude awakening!! did you see the same qb play i did last year? stafford was all over the place! over throws under throws, i mean he’s been around long enough he should be much more accurate than he his. don’t get me wrong elite qb’s are hard to come by, but he should be better than he is.

  23. Haha, looks like you guys don’t like my Matt Stafford – Jay Cutler comparison. Let us look at the career stats:

    Matt Stafford – 59.6% completion, 83.6 passer rating, 1.54/1 touchdown/INT ratio, 7.0 yards per passing attempt.

    Jay Cutler – 61.7% completion, 85.2 passer rating, 1.41/1 touchdown/INT ratio, 7.2 yards per passing attempt.

    Seems like a pretty fair comparison to me. Almost identical stats. Though there is one difference…. Jay Cutler won one playoff game in his first six seasons, while Stafford has won zero.
    ———————————————————————-
    Matthew Stafford: 77 games, 131 TD’s, 85 Ints, all while playing on historically bad teams with little talent on or off the field for the majority of his career.

    Jay Cutler: 119 183 TDs, 130 INT’s, all while playing on good teams with great running backs and coaching.

    Stafford took over a team that went 0-16, Cutler took over a team fresh off a Super Bowl berth in spite of having Rex GROSSman starting at QB.

    You probably should reconsider your comparison.

  24. theneedforspeeed says:
    Feb 18, 2015 3:30 PM
    9,6 mil is his cap hit for the coming year, no matter what. Since he already counts for that due to past restructuring, re-signing him is not as big a hit as most seem to think.
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    What kool aid do you drink?…..if they tag him it’s 26.9 million ….all to the cap 100%……..if they redo his contract then maybe the cap # is somewhere between McCoys 15 million, or JJ Watts 22 million….only way you get 9.6 is to backload the deal, and guarantee it 100%,…on the other hand the Raiders will front load the deal for him, and pay him more like Watts next year somewhere between 20 to 25.

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