Dave Gettleman: Teams increasingly wary of “ticking time bombs”

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Even though Panthers General Manager Dave Gettleman wouldn’t speak specifically about pending free agent Greg Hardy, he did make it clear how worried his team has to be moving forward with players with character questions.

The Panthers have always been sensitive about it, going back to former first-rounder Rae Carruth’s conviction for conspiracy to murder his pregnant girlfriend.

And while nothing Hardy did approached that level (the criminal domestic abuse charges were thrown out recently), the economic damage to the Panthers salary cap was worse.

They paid Hardy $13.1 million last year for one game, and it’s clear they’re not looking to re-invest in that project.

“I think every organization is careful about that,” Gettleman said at the NFL Scouting Combine. “This game is too hard. There are 53 guys and you’ve got all these coaches, all these personnel people, everybody’s working.

“Who wants a ticking time bomb? So I don’t think it’s going to change. Every organization I’ve ever been with that has gone into the draft and you talk about the background stuff, they’ll stay away from the guys that have character issues and the potential to continue those issues. This is too hard to have to worry about that.”

Prior to last year’s arrest, the problems Hardy had were of the nuisance variety, the kind of bad decision-making that’s not uncommon for guys who fell to the sixth round for reasons not physical.

But when it’s time to pay those guys beyond rookie deals, the scrutiny has to be more intense.

With 10 percent of their salary cap sitting on the commissioner’s exempt list last season, the fact the Panthers were able to win the NFC South might be doubly amazing.

And as he tries to build the Panthers into consistent winners, the memory of that hole blown into his salary cap is clearly going to linger in Gettleman’s mind.

24 responses to “Dave Gettleman: Teams increasingly wary of “ticking time bombs”

  1. Hey Dave, you’re the ticking time bomb, based on the way you handle players. I can’t wait for you to explode your way out of Charlotte.

    I would pay to see Steve Smith face you, if you were man enough to face him. From 12-4 to 7-8-1 in one season is unprecedented failure. You did it all by yourself.

    You paid Smith anyway and gave Belichick your 6th rd RB for free. It’s well documented all the other personnel blunders. Rivera nor Cam deserve you.

  2. Let him play then and let our fundamental principle of innocent until proven guilty prevail. You’ve only got yourselves to blame for going along with that dopey commissioner’s suspend first ask questions later philosophy.

  3. So the courts let Hardy off the hook and he’s viewed as “innocent” but when they did that to Ray Rice he’s still considered a wife beating monster?

    People scare me.

  4. “So the courts let Hardy off the hook and he’s viewed as “innocent” but when they did that to Ray Rice he’s still considered a wife beating monster? ”

    Everyone knows that both are completely guilty. But Hardy paid off the victim to leave town so the case was dropped. He’s only innocent if you’re a Panthers fan and have no moral fiber left. Everyone else finds him disgusting.

  5. Except for Tampa Bay. Lovie Smith has psychic powers and will prove to the world what a guru he is with the selection of Jameis Winston…………… LOL

  6. There is a simple way to solve this problem… The NFL could institute a policy that if a player is convicted of a crime, then that player’s contract will count against the salary cap for the team, until the contract would normally expire. So, the team could release the player, and save the salary. But, on paper, the player’s salary would continue to count against the salary cap for the team.

    This policy would create a significant incentive for teams to avoid contracts with players who exhibit behaviors that reflect badly on the brand.

  7. “There is a simple way to solve this problem… The NFL could institute a policy that if a player is convicted of a crime, then that player’s contract will count against the salary cap for the team…”

    How would the Ravens field a team?

  8. drcap says:
    Feb 20, 2015 11:38 AM

    There is a simple way to solve this problem… The NFL could institute a policy that if a player is convicted of a crime, then that player’s contract will count against the salary cap for the team

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    To get that, the NFL would have to give up rights to punish BEFORE a conviction. Which they won’t do.

  9. qdog112 says:Feb 20, 2015 11:03 AM

    Hey Dave, you’re the ticking time bomb, based on the way you handle players. I can’t wait for you to explode your way out of Charlotte.

    I would pay to see Steve Smith face you, if you were man enough to face him. From 12-4 to 7-8-1 in one season is unprecedented failure. You did it all by yourself.

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    It’s hardly unprecedented. For example, the Texans went from 12-4 in 2012 to 2-14 in 2013. Also, if Gettleman is a ticking time bomb, I don’t know how to classify Smith.

  10. floratiotime says:
    Feb 20, 2015 11:25 AM

    “So the courts let Hardy off the hook and he’s viewed as “innocent” but when they did that to Ray Rice he’s still considered a wife beating monster? ”

    Everyone knows that both are completely guilty. But Hardy paid off the victim to leave town so the case was dropped. He’s only innocent if you’re a Panthers fan and have no moral fiber left. Everyone else finds him disgusting.

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    No, we just actually have a clue what we’re talking about. Anyone who believes the “Story” never looked any deeper than the headline into an article about it.

    Find me someone who actually read up on it and thinks that way and I’ll show you a liar… or a women’s rights judge in an election year.

  11. “Teams increasingly wary of ‘ticking time bombs'”–oh, really? So why are they lining up to draft Jameis Winston? If ever there was a ticking time bomb waiting to happen, Winston is it. He’s a million-dollar physical talent with a ten-cent head, no apparent moral or ethical standards, and a alleged propensity for theft and rape. If your team drafts Winston, be afraid. Be very afraid.

  12. Gettleman said teams stay away from guys with character issues? And he said it with a straight face?
    Look, fans will put up with a lot of BS just so we can cheer for our teams, hope they’ll get better, win the BIG ONE, etc.
    Then someone like this gets in front of a microphone and treats us like complete frickin’ ijits. Enough already.
    Maybe it’s time for the fans to go out on strike.

  13. Let’s hope this is actually true, or at least beginning to be true more often and with more organizations. They look around and see what the Ray Rice thing turned into, Aaron Hernandez, Sam Hurd, et al. If the league actually cares about behavior standards (because it harms ‘the shield’) they won’t enable teams who accommodate those kinds of players, and those teams are that much less likely to reward extremely low character individuals with multi million dollar contracts (because it harms the team). If there’s a direct link between the league’s behavior standards and teams hiring practices, then it will hopefully signal to players that their conduct affects their ability to cash in on their talent.

  14. It is fine if you cheat the game, but you just can’t cheat off the field?

    Caveat…Unless you are Tom Brady, then you can cheat on and off the field (pregnant wife)

  15. I think at this point (finally) the average NFL fan is becoming *very* sensitive to violent crimes against women.

    From head butting, to choking, to a closed fist punch to the face knockin’ her clean out (huh?) and much worse as we all know. Everyone is fed up with it.

    Teams don’t want to appear soft on this issue (for good reason) and will steer clear of players with these types of character issues. There are plenty of other ‘issues’ that can and should be worked through in privet between a player and a team. Violence towards woman though is a show stopper in today’s league.

    If a player cannot accept that responsibility when coming into the league, hit the road and go do something else. I’m tired of hearing about it.

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