Bucs may have concerns about Mariota’s laid-back personality

AP

Quarterback Jameis Winston presents concerns regarding his off-field personality. Quarterback Marcus Mariota may present concerns regarding his on-field personality.

Via JoeBucsFan.com, Roy Cummings of the Tampa Tribune recently explained during an appearance with WHBO-AM that the Buccaneers have misgivings about Mariota and his laid-back nature.

“The other thing that [the Bucs] are not a big fan of, and you’re going to hear more about this, they are not big fans of his personality,” Cummings said. “And you’ve got one very engaging guy with loads of charisma. He’s likeable when you get around him, in Jameis Winston. And then you’ve got another guy who’s very introverted, very quiet. He doesn’t really command your attention when you’re around him, a very quiet soft-spoken guy.

“The Bucs are looking at it and saying, you know, ‘I got a guy here that kind of grabs you by the throat when he’s in the huddle and says, ‘We’re going guys. We’ve got 82 yards to go. We’ve got a minute and 12 seconds to do it. We’re going to get there.’ And then you’ve got another guy who, I don’t know what he says in the huddle, but it doesn’t come across that way, at least according to scouts it doesn’t.

“So I think the Bucs are in the camp that they’re a little bit concerned about that guy, not the face of the franchise, the leader of the football team,” Cummings said. “I think they want the leader who has more natural leadership abilities.”

It’s a fair point, but weren’t folks saying the same thing last year about Teddy Bridgewater? Besides, it may be better to have a soft-spoken guy who leads by example than a guy with a propensity to stand on a table and yell an obscene phrase.

Despite Winston’s past issues, the Bucs appear to have no qualms about him.  Based on Cummings’ remarks, the Bucs seem to be more concerned about the guy who has done nothing to make anyone concerned about him ever getting in any trouble.

If nothing else, it’ll make for an even more interesting comparison as the two men adapt to the NFL.

112 responses to “Bucs may have concerns about Mariota’s laid-back personality

  1. The bottom line is that neither Winston nor Mariota is even close to the total package. But in a draft class as bad at QB as this year’s, the teams that are truly desperate and in a position to get one of them will have to decide if what they bring is good enough.

  2. …anything to add to the Bucs decision to draft Winston. Really the NFL draft is nothing but a big crapshoot. Look up the 2012- 2011 draft list and you’ll be amazed how few of those drafted are still in the NFL. It’s a gamble plain and simple.

  3. And where is Roy Cummings getting this information. Everybody knows there are different types of leaders out there. You don’t have to be a “Ra ra” type of guy to command a team.

  4. I would have more concerns about a thief and someone who’s been accused of sexual assault.

    But hey, that’s just me……..

  5. When Jason Licht and Lovie Smith are the People running your organization, Things like a QB being laid back in a meeting room become decision maker drivers. A true staple of downtrodden QB Evauating Organizations Over emphasizing meeting room personalities an neglecting on field instincts..

  6. Perhaps this leak means that the Bucs are taking Mariota instead of Winston and want to throw off the other teams looking for a QB.

  7. let me go on PFT record as saying I think Mariota is going to have a far better career. Hopefully as a Jet

  8. Laid Back??? The New York Media will eat this kid alive………Stay away Marcus….stay far away from New York……like maybe Philadelphia ….

  9. Gee, Marcus is laid back and Jameis is a criminal. I wonder what I would do? SMH

  10. If this is truly what the “scouts” believe, it is pathetic and explains why so many are so often completely wrong about players. It could also just be a Corporate Sports Media hack fantasizing about a young man grabbing him by the throat.

  11. This is the exact logic that has led the to the Bucs being where they are at today.

  12. It’ll be interesting to see how this shakes out. I get the feeling one of them is going to be a colossal bust when it’s all said and done.

  13. Nice Mr. Cummings! Great, lucid, well thought out report. NOT!

    Comparing: ‘I got a guy here that kind of grabs you by the throat when he’s in the huddle and says, ‘We’re going guys. We’ve got 82 yards to go. We’ve got a minute and 12 seconds to do it. We’re going to get there.’ TO: And then you’ve got another guy who, I don’t know what he says in the huddle, but it doesn’t come across that way, at least according to scouts it doesn’t.

    So you’ve ‘got’ two guys (never mind the blatant mis-use of pronouns), and you’re making a comparison between one of them, whose actions you describe very clearly, to the second, whom you admit to not even knowing what he says in the huddle.

    The Tampa Tribune? Sorry Mr. Cummings, but I’d suggest they send you home until you learn how to write something other than incoherent, incomplete, poorly thought out, speculative, opinion pieces.

  14. After watching Mariota’s post-Pro Day interview workout with Mike Mayock I have to agree. He seems like the type of fragile softie to have mental breakdown and quit on his team in times of adversity like Jonathan Martin. Dude is softer than baby thighs.

  15. People keep citing Joe Montana, well let me cite another laid back guy — Jay Cutler. That sure worked for Lovie in Chicago. My point is Mariota is his own man and obviously a different QB.

    Besides, they, look most other teams scouting him, just wanna see some fire from the guy, that’s all they are saying.

  16. NFL starting quality football players are professionals. They are paid and paid very handsomely to do their jobs. You don’t need Knute Rockne qualities in the huddle to be the starting QB.

    Where you DO NEED a firm commanding QB is when you have a few prima donnas on your team. I won’t name names, but you know what I mean.

    Charisma, that’s more of an off the field quality.
    The calmest of animals can be the fiercest beasts when necessary, and that includes athletes.

  17. I seem to remember another quiet leader having been to a couple of Super Bowls lately. Oh yeah that guy Russell Wilson…..Ever heard of him?

    Not sure what they are putting in that water down in Tampa but it’s making them stupid.

    You own a billion dollar investment and you want that kid Winston to be the face of it? Morons. Now you know why they have the record they have and the #1 pick. Not because they need a QB either.

  18. Mariota has the same demeanor as Eli Manning and that demeanor hasn’t prevented Eli from going 80 yds not once but twice on the world’s biggest stage.

    That’s why TB is a perennial doormat. Focusing on nonsense.

  19. therealtrenches says:
    Mar 19, 2015 4:17 PM
    The laid back personality helps when there’s adversity. It’s a problem when it’s time to raise it up a notch and be intense.

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    True, but the problem with Mariota is that he hasn’t had to face adversity, so we really don’t know how he will respond to it. His personalty suggests that he wouldn’t respond well to anything negative said about him, at least IMO. This is not to say that he wont be a great QB, but can he be a great leader who doesn’t say much?

  20. Regardless of charisma there’s only one thing that comes to mind when I look at Jameis Winston’s. It’s not if he blows up, it’s when he blows up.

    Go watch his one and only loss in the playoffs. Dude lost his cool. Everything is great when he’s on a stacked team that can tank it for 3 quarters and go out and steal a win.

    Homeboy can’t handle the situation when he’s not coasting. He’s the perfect example of the type of player who doesn’t talent-out of the NFL he flunks-out when he doesn’t have the mental toughness to not be the best player on the best team.

    He’s going to have to work, and so far the only thing Winston has worked at is to avoid getting in trouble for stupid decisions.

  21. nfloracle says:
    Mar 19, 2015 4:13 PM
    Perhaps this leak means that the Bucs are taking Mariota instead of Winston and want to throw off the other teams looking for a QB
    ———–
    Having the first pick in the draft means nobody can jump in front of you and poach the guy you want. Tampa could announce who they want right now and nobody could stop them from drafting the guy. Teams setup smokescreens hoping the guy they want falls. If this is what Tampa’s doing, they’re telling you all you need to know about how smart the kids at One Buc Place aren’t.

  22. Haha, really?! Roy Cummings is probably the same guy that said prior to the 2011 draft that he’d have concerns drafting Andy Dalton because he has orange hair. Silly.

  23. And why am I thinking that Tim Tebow was a whole bunch more of a Bucs kind of guy coming out of college than someone like, say guys that grew into their leadership (ie Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady).

  24. Would you trust the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to make any right decisions when it comes to football operations or their players???

    Regular Season Record (all-time) : 235-376-1
    Playoff Record (all-time) : 6-9 (Last playoff 2007)
    Super Bowls Won: 1 out of 1 appearance
    Passing Leader (all-time): Vinny Testaverde
    Rushing Leader (all-time): James Wilder
    Most Wins By Coach (all-time): Jon Gruden

    Maybe Florida should have a state NFL Draft and combine the three teams….any bets on how bad they would still be?????

    Go with Winston his track record says it all!!!! If you overlook the rape allegations, crab leg theft video, derogatory statement about sexual relations with women in the library video, maybe steal some soda from a fast food restaurant ……hey who wouldn’t want their daughter to bring this shining beacon of a leader home????

  25. What a bunch of over-analysis-paralysis hogwash.

    You’d rather have the “Charisma” of the guy who will say “Cmon guys.. there are some crab-legs we have to go steal”… or the integrity and calmness of a guy you can trust to do what he says and be a leader by example with his work-ethic?

    Geez…

  26. Have the Bucs paid the least bit of attention to their history of decision making? What they should do is to call in all their experts, do an in-depth study, get a consensus as to their preferred course of action, and then do the exact opposite. Then maybe finally they’ll get something right.

  27. Lovie Smith and Tony Dungy are close by all reports. Dungy has known Mariotta for years. Don’t you think Smith would’ve talked to Dungy about this? Dungy loves Mariotta. Non-story.

  28. justintuckrule says:
    Mar 19, 2015 4:28 PM
    Mariota has the same demeanor as Eli Manning and that demeanor hasn’t prevented Eli from going 80 yds not once but twice on the world’s biggest stage.

    That’s why TB is a perennial doormat. Focusing on nonsense.
    —————————————————————-

    He doesn’t have Eli Manning’s skill set though

  29. greenbleeder says:
    Mar 19, 2015 4:07 PM
    The more you knock, the farther he falls.
    E-A-G-L-E-S–EAGLES!!!
    ——-

    I hope the Eagles do it, too. Just makes it that much easier for the Giants to win the division.

  30. As far as the soft-spoken, laid back personality goes, Steve McNair was the same way. He led by example: determination and toughness. I’ve seen those traits in Mariota’s style of play and seen his teammates respond to him the same way McNair’s did. Titans fans haven’t had that since McNair went to Baltimore (2006), and I for one, hope Mariota brings that unflappable leadership back to Nashville.

  31. chargerdillon says:
    Mar 19, 2015 4:29 PM
    Regardless of charisma there’s only one thing that comes to mind when I look at Jameis Winston’s. It’s not if he blows up, it’s when he blows up.

    Go watch his one and only loss in the playoffs. Dude lost his cool. Everything is great when he’s on a stacked team that can tank it for 3 quarters and go out and steal a win.

    Homeboy can’t handle the situation when he’s not coasting. He’s the perfect example of the type of player who doesn’t talent-out of the NFL he flunks-out when he doesn’t have the mental toughness to not be the best player on the best team.

    He’s going to have to work, and so far the only thing Winston has worked at is to avoid getting in trouble for stupid decisions.
    ———

    This is about as dumb and inaccurate comment regarding Winston’s football performance that I have ever seen. He wasn’t the one fumbling the ball away on back to back drives and bobbling an easy reception off for an interception. He still outplayed Mariota despite the outcome. Bottom line.

  32. concmike says:
    Mar 19, 2015 4:35 P

    “Maybe Florida should have a state NFL Draft and combine the three teams….any bets on how bad they would still be?????”

    ________________________________________

    Lol OK guy. And what horrible state do you live in? I can promise you, it isn’t as good as South Florida. You sound bitter. So sorry you probably have to deal with snow and fat women everyday. Roughly 35% of the players in the NFL were born in the state of Florida as well. So – you’re welcome for all that young talent and speed we put out every year loser.

  33. Sounds like the Bucs feel pressured to take Mariota but are engaging in mental gymnastics to give themselves a reason to pass on him for Winstson. Who are they kidding.

  34. Joe Montana (was not) and Eli Manning (is not) the yelling, “in your face” type of QBs but they both took command in the huddle. Also, Montana and Manning were both accomplished PASSERS in college and fairly versed in reading defenses. I’m not hating on Marcus Mariotta but we don’t know how he’ll be in the huddle because he never did it in college. Also, Oregon’s offense didn’t call for Mariotta to make progressive reads in their passing game. Like I said, good luck to him and EVERY youngster trying to live their dream(s).

  35. Not much of a scout if he’s talking about Mariota talking in the huddle when he rarely if ever ran a huddle whilst at Oregon. So, not only does he get those details wrong, he then makes faulty conclusions on incorrect data. If the guy’s not in a huddle then why does his being soft-spoken mean a thing? He’s not geeing up anyone in the huddle not because he’s soft-spoken but because he plays in a no-huddle offense.

  36. You also have to love the “one of them is going to be a bust” guys who love to see players fail. News flash, there aren’t too many competent QBs in that league, so you better hope both succeed. Brady, Manning, and Brees are getting pretty old.

  37. concerns about Mariota’s laid-back personality
    ———————-
    That’s right, we want someone who will go after those crablegs if that’s what he wants. We like those self starters.

  38. “It’s a fair point, but weren’t folks saying the same thing last year about Teddy Bridgewater?”

    —————————————————————-

    I swear I have nothing against Teddy Bridgewater, but why do we talk about him as if he’s a proven commodity?

  39. So, if Jay Cutler were coming out in the draft this year, the Bucs would prefer him to Mariota? No one questions Cutler’s athletic ability and he’s anything but laid back.

    By the by, sounds like the Bucs are taking Winston and, knowing there’s going to be a lot of criticism by doing so, they’re starting to build a firewall.

  40. Maybe there is something to that … Brady is a compleat lunatic on the field , he go’s crazy every game yelling , screaming ,throwing air punches, head butting, and when he runs one in he spikes it. Maybe I’m bias but I prefer that over someone like Cutler that looks like he’s just donated blood when he scores.

  41. Bucs are obviously looking for an excuse to take this criminal. Mariota is likely to have a great career in the NFL. Winston is likely to end up bunking next to Hernandez.

  42. “We’re going guys. We’ve got 82 yards to go. We’ve got a minute and 12 seconds to do it. We’re going to get there”

    Except with the Bucs they are almost always down 14+ with more than a minute.

  43. I was indifferent before but now I’m really rooting for Winston to fail and Mariota to succeed just to make a point at how ridiculous Tampa’s rationale is.

  44. I would rather be in a firefight with a leader who is cool under fire as opposed to one who’s spazzing out. Been there, done that.

  45. The lack of understanding of leadership is funny. Rah, Rah is not leadership; it’s cheerleading. A boisterous personality does not equate to leadership either but it can motivate the stupid easily enough. Competence, trust and integrity are huge factors in leadership. Just because Mariotta is a quiet guy does not mean he isn’t an effective leader.

  46. I remember when all the fans/experts were calling cam newton scam newton and how he was gonna be Jamarcus russell haha how did that turn out? I hope Marriotta goes to ur favorite team(hopefully the Jets and watch him crumble.Oregon was my favorite team until the idiot trolls came out of the woodwork calling Marriotta Jesus,while calling Winston the antichrist. really sickening.why can’t you root for who you like and move on?! #GO DUCKS

  47. Mariota is my bet to succeed. Kap like running ability, but has a head on his shoulders. Sure, he isn’t NFL ready, but he can get better, whereas Winston has peaked (a few more body shots, and he’ll be like Vick). Or I could be all wrong, but Mariota hasn’t shown a shred of inconsistent behavior in his short career.
    The whole charisma nonsense is just that, nonsense. Half the QBs in league are introverts, show little emotion, and I sometimes wonder if they have a pulse. Even Brady (my bud), is rather subdued at times, and his high pitched shrieking sounds manufactured, but his MMA stare is real and effective.

  48. Bridgewater is a lot different than Mariota. He’s a leader in a different way. I don’t really see the comparison. I don’t see Mariota with that sense of calm leadership that Bridgewater has. Everyone that’s ever coached or played with Teddy knows how much of a leader he is. No he’s not Winston or Brady, but Bridgewater’s teammates respect him in the huddle and know that’s his team. On the other hand, I’m not sure if Mariota’s huddle presence even exists. I don’t see the leadership at all, and I would worry a little about his ability to gain respect from his teammates.

  49. “We’re going guys. We’ve got 82 yards to go. We’ve got a minute and 12 seconds to do it. We’re going to get there”

    Except with the Bucs they are almost always down 14+ with more than a minute.

    bucs had lead and lost it to lose in the 4th quarter in 10 games last year, just wait till next year when we have Mr 4th quarter

  50. Joe Montana. Andrew Luck. Both “quiet and introverted” off the field, even shy. But on the field? Absolute field generals, leaders of men. Montana has his rings, Andrew will surely get his. If it comes down to this or a guy with a sketchy off-field history, I’m rolling the dice with Mariota, without hesitation.

  51. He’s from Hawai’i.

    As a person from the same state, there is nothing wrong with being ‘laid back.’ We take care of business when needed.

    Aloha.

  52. Yep. The laid back thing will get you every time. It’s part of the reason Joe Montana went in the third round, and then didn’t become the full time starter until his third season. It’s also why Kurt Warner never got a chance. When the Rams finally had him in camp, he was too laid back, and the coaches liked Trent Green better. It wasn’t until Green got injured that the laid back Warner got a chance to hold the fort down until Green returned. Lol. Mariota is probably hoping that a doormat like the Bucs don’t draft him.

  53. Trade the pick to San Diego…..Rivers is from the south, loves throwing to VJ and will get everybodies attention in the huddle

    San Diego takes Mariota….I mean what is more laid back than San Diego….perfect fit

  54. You know who else thought a QB prospect was too laid back, Mike Nolan. (he picked Alex over Aaron)

    Wonder where he is and the QB that was not laid back are at?

  55. Mariota will answer the critics. Smart, good throwing mechanics, athletic, and fast. Unquestionable character and work ethic. He will adjust to the pro game with proper coaching. Don’t count this kid out before he’s had a chance. Still think Chip Kelly will make a play to grab Mariota.

  56. Kind hard to take command of a huddle, when he hasn’t been in a huddle since 11th grade. But go ahead Bucs keep thinking Winston won’t steal some wings or crablegs from the teams FREE buffet..after a couple woman accused him of assault the day before. At least he grabs your throat in the huddle. Welcome to Philly Marcus.

  57. I see Winston snapping and slapping a ref in the face. I’m not sure about Mariota, he didn’t do much in that last bowl game.

  58. Smoke screen. Nobody lays out their agenda pre-draft. You won’t find local media being welcomed back at One Buc if they did either.

  59. quinzze says:
    Mar 19, 2015 5:40 PM
    Maybe there is something to that … Brady is a compleat lunatic on the field , he go’s crazy every game yelling , screaming ,throwing air punches, head butting, and when he runs one in he spikes it. Maybe I’m bias but I prefer that over someone like Cutler that looks like he’s just donated blood when he scores.
    =======

    You’re right. The one thing that always held Joe Montana back was his laid back personality. Imagine what he could have accomplished if threw more air punches.

  60. Where was the criticism of Rodgers when he told everyone to R-E-L-A-X? Wasn’t that showing a laid back personality?

    The media needs to get rid of the double standard when comparing people, especially when Rodgers is concerned.

  61. Hmm. And with all the ENTHUSIAM that reeks from Timmy Tebow’s presence on the gridiron, I guess Lovie/T-Bucs find that to be too extreme. SMH lol

  62. Roy – are you afraid the Bucs won’t let you in the locker room or what – Dude?
    Do you and Lovie share the same brain or do you actually have thoughts of your own.
    Tallahassee, college town, football town – FSU world!
    Do you or anybody else with half of a brain think that for one minute, a renowned football star (FSU football God) could possibly be brought to justice for any unwanted sexual assault on an FSU Campus?
    Really?
    This guy Winston is a headline away from imploding!
    The Bucs have no idea what they are doing here flirting with this jerk and this is precisely the reason why they have the first pick in the 2015 Draft and may also have the first pick in the 2016 Draft.
    Be smart, trade down, amass multiple picks and own this thing!
    Are the Bucs going to a SB with this pick – absolutely not – trade down!

  63. The Great FSU QB’s. Tell me which one of these guys is an overwhelming star that you would mortgage your entire teams future for? Ward, Weinke, Weldon, Kanell, PT Willis, McManus, Busby, Ponder,Rix, EJ Manuel, Weatherford.
    It’s obvious that FSU does not turn out star QB’s Bucs.
    You succeed in the future when you learn from the past.
    Bucs fans don’t deserve to have to continually endure losing seasons year in and year out!

    TRADE DOWN and build your future!

  64. pretty ridiculous opinion…. yup, no way the quiet adult can compete with the loudmouth fratboy

  65. When was the last time a Heisman Trophy winning QB did above average in the NFL? The Heisman has jinxed most if not all QBs. With that said, will it jinx Winston and Marcus?

  66. “The Bucs are looking at it and saying, you know, ‘I got a guy here that kind of grabs you by the throat when he’s in the huddle and says, ‘We’re going guys. We’ve got 82 yards to go. We’ve got a minute and 12 seconds to do it. We’re going to get there.’

    …”Unless I throw another interception. I only had 18 last year, that’s not bad, right?”

  67. Non-Leaders: Joe Montana; Roger Staubach; Aaron Rodgers; Russell Wilson, etc. These poor fellows may have made something of themselves had they screamed at their players.

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