NFL investigator visited Jets facility over Revis tampering

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On the same weekend during which tampering was rampant via the decision of teams to exceed the permitted limits of the three-day pre-free agency negotiating window, the NFL sent an investigator to the Jets facility to explore whether tampering had occurred with cornerback Darrelle Revis.

Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News reports that the visit occurred on Sunday, March 8 — the same day that a slew of tentative free-agent deals throughout the league were reported, even though teams were strictly prohibited from striking deals with free agents.

The investigator interviewed G.M. Mike Maccagnan and other front office personnel regarding the pursuit of Revis.  Owner Woody Johnson was not interviewed.  (If the visit was timed to get the Jets to abandon their pursuit of Revis, it obviously didn’t work.)

The problem arose when Johnson said publicly on December 29 that the Johnson would “love for Darrelle to come back,” a textbook violation of the tampering rules.  (Johnson later said he “misspoke,” a term which suggests Johnson actually meant to say he would “not love for Darrelle to come back.”)

Mehta, a friend of PFT and frequent guest on PFT Live, makes no secret of his belief that the Patriots are being “petty” and “whining,” and that Patriots fans are acting “[l]ike a jilted lover” over the decision of Revis to leave.  Mehta also points to SpyGate and #DeflateGate in suggesting with sarcasm that the Patriots “had every right to be concerned about the integrity of the situation.”

Regardless of the lingering Jets-Patriots homage to the Hatfields and the McCoys, Johnson committed a clear and blatant violation of the tampering rules by telling the media that his team would “love” to bring back a guy who at the time was the exclusive property of another team.  While Johnson (as Mehta notes) was simply answering a direct question, the answer to that direct question should have been, “I can’t comment on players under contract with other teams.”

The anti-tampering policy makes it obvious that Johnson crossed the line.  Although tampering happens all the time in the NFL, the league tends only to punish those who are caught with one hand pressed to the bottom of cookie jar — and with the other hand firing off a middle finger to 345 Park Avenue.

In this specific case, the full body of evidence includes a March 3 report from Mehta that Johnson was leaning heavily on his front-office staff to bring Revis back.  Mehta’s source, undoubtedly a member of the team’s front office, committed a separate violation of the tampering rules by leaking the information to the media, since it had the clear impact of making it known to the football-following world that the Jets were indeed in play for Revis at a time when only the Patriots should have been talking to Revis.  While the NFL has no jurisdiction over Mehta, the questioning that occurred at team headquarters on March 8 surely extended to Mehta’s story from March 3.

Meanwhile, the fact that the Jets gave Revis $39 million fully guaranteed over three years could give the NFL separate motivation to punish the Jets.  There’s a belief that the NFL doesn’t want teams to fully guarantee contracts beyond the first year or two, a belief reinforced by the outdated, blanket requirement that all contract with full guarantees in future years be fully funded at signing.

The Jets willingly put the money aside for Revis, which could make the NFL even more willing to impose some sort of a sanction on the Jets for tampering with Revis.

170 responses to “NFL investigator visited Jets facility over Revis tampering

  1. Tampering? A guy saying he’d love to have a guy back on his team should not be considered anything but a common sense statement, not tampering.

  2. Investigator: “Did Woody mean what he said publicly?”

    Jets GM: “No.”

    Investigator: “I didn’t think so. Where can we go for brunch around here ?”

  3. Pats fan here… Let me clarify. No we honestly don’t care about tampering with Revis. We don’t care if Jets get penalized or not. Our only concern is which finger we’ll put our 5th ring on. Not sure it’ll fit on the thumb so we may have to switch to the other hand. Decisions… Decisions…

  4. Look at the Briggs Case…

    They will swap the Pats and Jets 2nd round pick….

    Still Bogus… Jets signed all these old guys not to try and win a SuperBowl, but instead, just to try and stop the Brady Belichick Express

  5. There’s no question about it. It was live, everyone seen it. If it was the Pats, it would lead the nightly news for two weeks. Mehta is just another hypocrite.

  6. Nothing less than a swapping of 2nd round picks between NE and the Tampering Jets will be acceptable, along with a loss of NY’s 5th round pick.

  7. This will cost at least a 2nd rd pick,,,,you watch…this happened before,,,when the JETS poached/tampered with Curtis Martin of NE,,and the league then hit them for a 1st rd pick. They are gonna take something from the Jets and give it to the pats,,and it won’t be cash. It would be incredible if it was the 1st rd pick….LMAO.
    There is nothing to “investigate really” He said I would would like to have MEVIS back on our team, while he was under contract to another team…you can’t do that. Plain and simple.

  8. “NFL investigators visited Jets facility over Revis tampering”-I don’t get it, where are they supposed to find the evidence-in the weight room?!

  9. I hate the Jets as much as anybody, but it’s hard to say that the Jets gained any advantage from the owner’s idiotic statements. Woody Johnson should be personally fined for breaking the rules and that cash should go to charity. The league itself is the biggest problem with tampering by creating a “legal” tampering period and everyone knows that the combine is tampering central for those few days.

  10. Let’s be serious and honest here. If Revis had been property of the Jets and Robert Kraft had overtly made the same statement Johnson did and then the Patriots struck the same deal with Revis at 1 minute past the okay to sign free agents, then the universe would be calling for the Patriots’ heads on a platter. Mehta is representing the classic example of a hypocrite. He would be leading the charge if the roles were reversed. Maybe Johnson can lobby the rules committee to change the rules just like Harbaugh is with the eligible/ineligible plays that Harbaugh got fooled on. Unreal.

  11. and with the 6th pick in the draft, the Super Bowl Champion, New England Patriots select…

  12. I think these are ridiculous. Crazy that is considered “tampering” when you say you would like to have a player on your team. I get why it is there but I think it is stupid.

    Now, if they were found to talk with Revis’ agents BEFORE he was let go then I can see getting a fine.

  13. Manish Mehta being a hypocrite. Blasted the Pats over deflated footballs but when the Jets have a case of “Textbook Tampering” as Florio puts it, it’s no big deal, the other team is being petty. Even though the Jets managed to sign the exact player they tampered with.

  14. As a Jets fan, what Woody said was a violation of the rules. However, it was like asking “would you want one of the best players at a position on your team?” I ,mean, who wouldn’t want Revis on their team? It should be a fine or at worst a 7th round pick. And yes, the Patriots are a bunch of whiners.

  15. Not so sure Pats fans feel jilted, think most believe Revis was a rental player, which is exactly what he turned out to be. And Kudos to Revis for gaming the system, something only teams seem to get to do.

    However, tampering is tampering. Give the Pats the Jets third round pick or have them swap second round picks. What isn’t needed is another never ending NFL investigation.

  16. Not a fan of either team, but this seems pretty cut and dry…..if the Patriots did the same thing, it would lead the nightly news.

  17. The Jets are gonna get hosed – and rightfully so. I’m sure Woody and their front office factored in 3 years at $39M guaranteed and a lost draft choice for how they handled this thing starting with Woody’s big mouth because they needed him that bad. When they lose a draft choice they’ll blow it off like they don’t care because “we got Revis!” That’s all that counts to them.

  18. Does this really need an “investigation”? The whole word saw him tamper, and he admitted it.

    And what a Jets reporters views on New England and its fans has to do with anything I have literally no idea.

  19. Mehta, a friend of PFT and frequent guest on PFT Live, makes no secret of his belief that the Patriots are being “petty” and “whining,” and that Patriots fans are acting “[l]ike a jilted lover” over the decision of Revis to leave. Mehta also points to SpyGate and #DeflateGate in suggesting with sarcasm that the Patriots “had every right to be concerned about the integrity of the situation.”

    Petty? It’s a clear violation! How is that petty? Can you imagine if it was turned around and Kraft said that about a Jets player??? Poor Mehta would be demanding that Kraft should have his team taken away! Of course he has to bring up Spygate and Deflategate because that’s what haters and deflectors cling on to.
    Let’s not forget what happened when the 49er’s tampered with Lance Briggs, they lost a 5th round pick and had to switch their third round pick with Chicago. All that and Briggs didn’t even sign with them. If the Pats get nothing from this, then it’s a clear sign that the league is out to get them. At the very least they should get what Chicago got, but since Revis signed in NY they should get switch and second round pick instead of the third.

  20. Oh my god get over it. Why is anybody acting like this really matters? Do you really think this had any impact on Revis leaving New England for the Jets? New England was never going to exercise his 2nd year option. Revis wouldn’t dare leave money on the table by resigning before free agency started. He was always going to free agency and since the Jets had more money than NE, he was always going to come to the Jets. This tampering case is extremely petty.

  21. Lol read Manish article.. The Patriots got Revis 5 h after he got cut because the Tampa Bay was shopping him and teams was allowed to talk to his camp.. Revis was still under contract to 4 pm with the Patriots..

  22. If NFL penalizes the NY Jets in any kind of way after letting the Patriots cheat their way to another Super Bowl Championship the league will have a sever credibility issue on its hands.

  23. Revis left the Patriots because they released him and they didn’t want to pay him his true market value. Kraft accusing the Jets of tampering is just sour grapes on his part. On the other hand, I sure would like to know what’s taking Ted Wells so long regarding deflate-gate. Ted Wells said in late January that it would be “at least several weeks,” until their done investigating. Today is March 20th, 2015 and we’ve heard nothing. Hope the report comes out before the draft.
    #Something is rotten in Denmark

  24. I think saying into a microphone that you would like a hall of fame type player to come back and play for you, trumps the taping of 6 or 7 defensive signals from the sideline in view of everyone on earth that wants to see it. Deflategate? a witch hunt sting operation aimed at embarrassing the Pats. Also, nothing will come of this tampering charge, after all Roger is a Jet toady. Doesn’t matter what they do, they never get punished.

  25. Manish Mehta is only concerned that his Jets front office source doesn’t get skittish and stop giving him stories when he should be keeping his mouth shut.

    As for bringing up tampering charges against the Patriots, I don’t recall any charges being filed or any investigation being done, or Robert Kraft grabbing a microphone to jabber on about Revis to the masses.

    There is also a legal tampering period where the Patriots and Revis’ agent could talk. That legal tampering period didn’t apply to the Jets and Revis, since Revis was still under contract to the Patriots for another year.

    As far as how quickly a deal could get signed. Revis tweeted out a picture of the deal getting done while it was still broad daylight outside – well before the 4 p.m. free agency start period.

  26. The anti-tampering rule may be considered a sham. However, it is an official NFL rule and is there to be observed. The New England Patriots always play strictly to the rules and with the highest integrity. However, if the Jets have broken the rules and Woody Johnson declared he would go after Revis months ago, then they have to live with the consequences. Mr Kraft will ensure that the Commissioner has the matter investigated. PFT readers may see this as petty but I’m sure that the Commissioner takes it very seriously.

  27. Good article. Here is an excerpt from the NFL anti-tampering policy, which makes you wonder why this wasn’t settled the day that the Jets owner made his statement, which clearly violated the policy: “Any public or private statement of interest, qualified or unqualified, in another club’s player to that player’s agent or representative, or to a member of the news media, is a violation of this Anti-Tampering Policy. (Example of a prohibited comment: “He’s an excellent player, and we’d very much like to have him if he were available, but another club holds his rights.”

  28. You lost me at Mehta and if he actually has a source in the FO of the Jets, if I was running that joint I would find the leak and plug it. Mehta is the biggest hack since Cimini. It’s like they try to outdo each other as to who can be the most useless in this world.

  29. The Jets and Colts have gotten away with more cheating than any teams in the league the last 15 years. Its absurd.

  30. After having to deal with hourly “deflategate” stories for weeks at a time, it’s about time PFT took some time to discuss some REAL cheating.

    This isn’t a case of “whining” like Mehta characterizes. If tampering IS truly a rule that the league intends to enforce, then this is a textbook example. Here’s why.

    1. Johnson’s supposed “lip slip” wasn’t just a casual misstatement, it was a critical first shot. It also was almost word for word for what you are NOT supposed to do, as cited by the Tampering rule

    2. This wasn’t Johnson’s first supposed “lip slip”. He had already been given a written warning within in the last year, to cease making tampering statements about other people’s players under contract.

    3. At a time where the Pats were supposed to have EXCLUSIVE negotiating rights, “somehow” the Jets managed to have worked out a complex 5 year deal, front loaded in such a way, it made it impossible for the Pats to match. It was like the Jets knew exactly what the Pats offer was and how they wanted to structure the deal

    You can’t tell me that the Jets managed to put this together in just a few hours after the real FA period began. No its a classic case of tampering, and if the league doesn’t come down hard on a REPEAT OFFENDER, then they should just do away with the rule entirely.

    The hypocrisy of pillaring the Pats over a pound of air pressure for weeks on end, yet ignoring actual rule breaking over and over again, is sad. it would be just ANOTHER example of Roger Goodell’s ineptness, and the uneven enforcement of the rules.

    If this was a first time offense, the punishment should be the Jets losing a low round pick, or swapping positions with the Pats on a mid round pick, like its been done in the past HOWEVER the Jets are multiple offenders, and the minimum punishment should be swapping 2nd round picks.

    You can’t allow your good buddy Mehta to minimize this. They want’s to hang the Pats for supposedly breaking an obscure rule that could easily been explained by HS physics…..and they did it for weeks at a time and are spending millions of dollars to “investigate” what amounts to a Colt’s instigated bag job.

    The Jets cheated, plain and simple, and after years of unfairly labeling the Pats with that moniker, the organization and their fans can’t deal with that FACT

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  31. When agents and teams discuss contracts it is almost impossible to discuss hypotheticals when agents are pushing for as much information as possible to decide whether they need to do more marketing for their players or wait the three days and sign. Clearly the NFL made another dumb decision by implementing this 3 day window idea and they just need to ditch it and free agency starts when free agency starts. It is about building hype amongst fans and at some point in time the NFL is going to lose more fans than it gains by doing these types of dumb things. Mark Cuban is a very smart man and he realized the NFL was digging a hole but the NFL is too blinded by money to see how deep the hole is getting.

  32. If Mehta has the truth about “frame – gate”, why is he not printing it? Does Mehta have a relationship with ex Jets and current NFL employee, Mike Kensil, aka the Father of Frame – gate?

    Mehta is the new Kravitz……..a media tool
    .

  33. Finally. Tampergate. The circumstances of this case are such that some punishment is due, but no pats fan should get their hopes up. We all know Goodell has two standards of operations; the rest of the teams and his NY Jets. Jets will get away with a slap on the wrist.

  34. well when your team follows the rules to the letter you can accuse other teams of wrongdoing #* #itsokwhenwecheat #thepatriotway #aaronhernandez

  35. I’m all for Belacheat bashing, but the fact that he has walked the line (and fallen on the wrong side of it) in the past does not mean that the Patriots are no longer protected by the same rules that other teams are. I don’t find their complaints about an obvious, and public, violation of the rules petty at all. I do find the NFL to be petty, provided your contention that they will punish the Jets more than they otherwise would for breaking the rules because they are annoyed that the Jets are doing something well within the rules by providing 3 years guaranteed.

    In fact, such an over reach in punishment due to the Jets following another rule would lend credence to the collusion claims made during the recent NFLPA elections. The statute of limitations on reporting a known collusion incident won’t be an issue if this punishment of the Jets becomes another obvious collusion incident. Goodell had a warning shot fired over his head regarding the fully guaranteed issue and I suggest he backs off unless he wants to see the CBA set aside.

  36. Why would a Jets front office source leak their tampering to a reporter? That’s insanity. Regardless, the Jets clearly tampered. Now the NFL will just drag their feet until everyone forgets about yet another team cheating.

  37. One other quick point I forgot to mention. It has been widely reported that the Pats had dropped out of the “bidding” on Monday when it became clear that they couldn’t match the money and structure the Jets were offering.

    But here’s the thing. How could their even be “bidding” on Monday, since it was a full day before Revis was allowed to field offers from other teams.

    What a joke. Revis had a full blown offer on the table well before ANY team was allowed to even make an offer. Be honest Mike, it this were the Pats instead of the Jets, you wouldn’t be publishing one post every couple of weeks

    BTW- I have to credit you for even doing THAT much. According to ESPN, tampering is even worth THAT much space. Outside of you and Tom Curran, no one wants this story to come out.

  38. If the patriots were accused of this there we be people all over the country calling for Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft heads. This is a very obvious and textbook case of tampering. Punish the Jets just like you would punish the pats.

  39. A guy states the obvious and has tampering charges leveled against him…

    A team is a repeat offender of (and I’ll be nice) “flexing the rules” and seemingly nothing, or at least very little, is done.

    Saying you’d love to have a certain player back is small to no potatoes in my mind. Filming signals, extending talking time on a qb headset, and deflating footballs to gain grip while winning championships is a much bigger deal. The NFL should treat it as such.

  40. Considering we’re still waiting to hear on Noise and Deflategate, I wouldn’t expect a verdict until next April

  41. As a Pats fan, I knew that there was no way that they would pick up his 2nd year option at 20 million. I also knew that it would be unlikely that they could sign him to a more reasonable deal knowing that (a) he would have numerous suitors for his services, (b) his propensity for following the money, and (c) the fact that he already has his ring. So, to me this isn’t that big a deal since quite frankly, everyone does it. Yes – I’m letting the hated Jets off the hook here. That being said, what I cannot stand is the fact that if the Patriots had done this, the sky would be falling right now. There is such a double standard among NFL fans that they are willing to overlook other teams “doing the same things that all other teams do”, but when the Pats dare to do these same things, it all of a sudden becomes a crime against humanity.

  42. Tampergate… although when your teams stinks for 20 straight years do you give them a pass. But cheating is cheating it is what it is…

  43. The New Jersey Jets are saying another team is whining.

    This is the funniest post in PFT history.

    They wouldn’t know a dynasty if it slapped them in the face. Which it does, every year, twice a year.

    Bow down.

  44. The irony here is that this entire mess was completely unnecessary.

    1. When a reporter asked Johnson about Revis at the press conference, a Jet PR guy tried to deflect the question because he knew Johnson shouldn’t comment on a player under contract to another team. Nevertheless, Johnson barged ahead and expressed his desire to sign Revis. Johnson has been an NFL owner for more than a decade and should have known better.

    2. Johnson called the Patriots owner to apologize. Well, it looks like his apology was not graciously accepted, doesn’t it?

    3. Johnson’s comments were undoubtedly designed to reassure the fanbase that the do-nothing Idzik era was over. Signing Revis delivered that message far more effectively than some rah-rah comments at a press conference, so why make the rah-rah comments in the first place?

    4. While the Patriots may seem petty in pursuing the tampering case, we all know by now that the Patriots play for keeps. Their give-no-quarter/ask-no-quarter approach doesn’t include letting a rival owner off the hook. None of this should surprise us.

    5. In the end, the question will be whether Revis is worth the money the Jets are paying him + whatever penalty the NFL imposes for tampering.

  45. I love the “A Football Life” episode featuring Bill Belichick. There is a great scene where Coach is on the field talking to Ed Reed prior to a game in 2009. “Your the best free safety ever”, “that play you made two weeks ago was incredible etc…”, but hey, we don’t want you here. Stay in Baltimore by all means. It would never cross Reed’s mind that NE would want him in their uniform. So, when Houston was releasing Ed in 2013, the Pats(and Jets)came calling. Did Blount tank it in Pitt for some reason? Just a thought.

  46. As a Giants fan – I have no dog in this fight. However, if the Patriots are going to be scrutinized for Deflategate and Spygate – then they have every right to demand that other teams are scrutinized when they may have violated the rules.

    Bottom line is – the Jets did tamper. They made their opinions known publicly – and then they went out and signed Revis – on day 1.

    Where I don’t think that they should void Revis’s contract (and that should actually be the punishment in this case) – the Jets should be fined $$$ and/or draft picks. If not – then they need to get rid of the tampering rule.

  47. With the 6th pick of the 2015 NFL draft the New England Patriots select…..

  48. there has to be a draft pick 3rd rd or higher, it was clear tampering, you ppl blind, and a fine.

  49. Textbook example of tampering from start to finish. Public tampering, by a franchise’s owner, involving a rival’s star player, during said rival’s run to a Super Bowl win, after which said star player immediately leaves for huge contract with tampering organization. If the Jets don’t pay heavily for this, the tampering rules officially serve no purpose.

  50. The Jets are clearly guilty of tampering in the Revis case. Goodell, Jet guy will overlook this and the Jets will walk away scott free, just as they did in 2006 when they were caught videotaping in the endzone. This was the real spygate, the Patriots were fined for taking pictures from an enclosure that fit the letter of the rule, the Jets were blatantly in violation of Part A of the rule. Incidentally, for those who “think” they understand, the rule requires videotaping by the teams and requires that each team (2007) supply 4000 videos. It does not prohibit stealing signs, filming alignments or any of the folkloric interpretation of spygate. It does prohibit cameras in the open and filming FROM the sidelines, end zone locker rooms. For all the above reasons the Jets will once again skate.

    Having said all that, the tampering rule itself has insufficient punishment for real tampering (affecting the current season) and arbitrary consequences (left up to the Goodell and Co. for their sage or is it lemon grass wisdom) for negotiations after the season. Most of us do not care what happens after the Superbowl and before the next season (maybe a little negotiation window for trading, but not much more). So punish the Jets for violating the rule and then bring reality into the rule.
    While we are rewriting rules the ball rule needs some reality brought into it, it is violated in every non-climate controlled stadium. It is time that instead of running for Ted Wells they hire a physicist to write the inflation rule, they are clearly incompetent to do so.
    As for completion rule, we all know what the right call was, all except the officials who were out there covering their … Screwing with the field goal width is dumb, fans like to compare the old guys with the kids. I would like to see a 70 yarder anywhere but Denver. Then there is the stikum issue. Take away all the 49ers records with stikum Rice and get rid of all Rice’s records. I would like to see a stomping rule, with a lifetime suspension for stomping and eye gouging.

  51. It’s clear to me the Jets knew what they were doing and decided that any punishment for tampering was just the cost of doing business.

    The Jets were seeing red over the fact their favorite player ended up winning a championship the only year he spent on a rival’s roster. They knew they had 40 more million to spend than New England and they were going to get him back no matter what.

  52. From the News article:

    “The Buccaneers officially released Revis at 3:53 p.m. EDT on March 12, 2014. Less than five hours later — 8:23 pm EDT — the Patriots amazingly agreed to terms on a contract with the star cornerback. Who knew that Kraft and Belichick could broker a deal for a player with so many options in warp speed?”

    Guess the Pats get pissed off when others bend the rules just like them?

  53. Wow, Patriots get away with a lot in this league because Goodell is a puppet to Kraft……..Why did Sean Payton get suspended and Belicheat didn’t? The Saints got hammered for Bountygate! We all know who runs this league!! I think he make pretty good macaroni and cheese!!

  54. Manish Mehta is easily one of the biggest homer hacks in the business. His paper, the Daily News, should be distributed in rolls by the four-pack.

  55. What if this were the pats tampering and Kraft running his mouth? Then all the other fans would Rush here and call pays cheaters! It’s true. So … It’s my turn the jets are cheaters! How do you like it?

  56. Why does Mehta bring up deflategate as a Patriot violation- it was a witch hunt led by the all the Ex Jet employees in the NFL front office including Goodell as well as Irsay and the Colts. Mehta and all the New York Sports Media have had a hair across their collective behinds, since Belichick left the Jets at the alter 16 years ago… including a trumped up minor filming from the wrong spot violation 7 years ago. The Jets clearly violated the tampering rule, Mehta was involved and the Patriots should be compensated as such.

  57. To me, the funny part about this is that Woody Johnson isn’t knowledgeable enough about the business side of football to know that you can’t do this – especially with cameras rolling. No wonder the Jets are such a rudderless ship.

  58. I’m a Pats fan. The Jets clearly tampered, Woody was caught on tape saying he would love to have Revis back. Do you really think that Revis needed to hear this to gain leverage against the Patriots during negotiations?? Come on. Everyone tampers in the league and it’s no secret. It doesn’t matter because with a player like Revis, if you want him, you just pay him. The fact that an investigation is taking place is warranted but it’s a joke.

  59. Really? This is still news?

    If Jerry Jones can openly have a conversation with Adrian Peterson on the phone and recruit him to become a Cowboy but not get any punishment from the League. Why is everyone in such a fuss about Woody Johnson speaking about hypothetically wanting one of the greatest players to play for the Jets back on the team.

    The tampering laws itself are bologna.

  60. Swap draft picks in the 3rd round? That’s pretty delusional, but when someone is sour, that can happen.

  61. The floor of the punishment in this situation should be the 2008 Lance Briggs tampering case with the 49ers and Bears. In that case, the 49ers were caught tampering and did not even get the player. The penalty? A swap of 3rd rounders (Bears moved from 12th to 7th in the round) and the 49ers forfeited a 5th to the league.

    In this case, as good as Briggs was at that time, Revis is a clearly superior player and the Jets signed him (i.e., in the division) meaning the damage done to the Patriots is magnified to a much larger degree than what occurred in the Briggs case.

    Just pure speculation, but given above and what Florio outlined in terms of the extended guaranteed contract, perhaps the punishment will be a swap of 2nd round picks and the Jets forfeit a 4th rounder. Otherwise, just take the rule off the books as this is as clear as it gets.

  62. NFL investigator visited Jets facility over Revis tampering
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    Nothing more than posturing… Lets be real, its a NY team, nothing will happen…

  63. Losing respect for Mehta.. How is it that all of the local radio stations (in Boston) have had a decent amount of pro “In Belichick we Believe” sentiment and yet Mehta states, as if it were fact, that Patriots fans are acting like jilted lovers..

    Mehta lives, works and writes in/for NY.. How is it that he has his finger on the “Pulse of Patriots Fandom”?

    Not sure about that honestly.. I mean I don’t like that we lost Revis but I also believe in our Coach who has a proven track record with or without top notch Cornerbacks..

    There is more than one way to win..

    On a side note: Saying Pats fans are whining etc. is a blanket statement.. Blanket statements are like stereotypes.. So, essentially, Mehta just labeled Pats fans as whiners.. My opinion: Some are, some aren’t so it’s not fair, nor newsworthy, to paint a whole fan-base with one negative brush stroke.. And this just shows Mehta’s true lack of integrity as a journalist (and as a man, that’s my opinion).

    Plain and Simple: He has an agenda that’s anti-Patriots. Not much integrity there..

  64. Jet fans say tampering charges are petty and everybody is doing it. Wow! They broke the rules. Yes they did. What are the only thing jets are known for in national football league. As whistle blowers and pointing fingers at the pats for spygate and deflategate. Even though everybody was doing it the jets only have that to fall back on. Oh and one superbowl when man first walked on the moon. H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E-S! Hypocrites! Stupid chant.

  65. I can’t wait for Goodell to announce to the world that the rules that apply to OTHER teams in the NFL are waived for his Jets.

    Lance Briggs actually RE-SIGNED with Chicago and Goodell stripped the 49ers of a 5th rounder and made them swap 3rd round draft choices with Chicago.

    This is BLATANT tampering and Revis signed elsewhere.

    Strip them of a mid rounder and make the Jets swap 2nd round picks with the Patriots is the only thing that makes sense here.

    BTW – I’m FINE if the NFL wants to eliminate the tampering rule. But when Belichick is getting fined for “breaking unwritten rules” there’s no reason why Goodell should turn a blind eye to the Jets breaking WRITTEN rules and selectively enforcing those written rules depending on whether he likes the team or not.

  66. Why do people keep referring to Goodell as a Jets guy? He worked in the Jets PR department for one year more than 30 years ago and long before current ownership came on the scene. That hardly seems like a strong enough connection to give him a pro-Jets bias.

  67. No one ever mentions the context of the Woody Johnson statement. It was in response to a question asking why they didn’t sign revis last year, and he was basically saying that while he would have loved to have revis back he didn’t think it was possible. I’m not a woody johnson supporter ( why would anyone be really), but this is blown out of proportion and unlike most times the phrase is used, was truly taken out of context.

  68. What Mehta didn’t say in his column is that the league investigated several teams around this time including the Dolphins and Eagles because there was so much blatant tampering on the 7th. He makes it sound like the Pats called the league to investigate. The league just targeted teams they felt were tampering and since the Pats already filed a grievance for Woody’s comments and Mehta reported that Johnson was all in for Revis, they were on the League’s radar.

    This seems like a spin campaign by the Jets to take blame off of them and make the Pats look like the ones who are in the wrong.

  69. The real news here is that someone still reads what Manish Mehta has to say.

    Also, the Pats would’ve been skewered if Kraft had made the exact same comment.

  70. mrrmiyagi says:
    “Sure, let’s investigate the meaningless tampering case and sweep the Deflategate under the rug.”

    ———————————-
    How in the name of Zeus can you call it a “meaningless” tampering case? If, in six months for example, Robert Kraft talked about how much he’d like to have Mohamed Wilkerson on the Patriots, you and every other Jet fan would collectively lose their minds. Manish Mehta would be screaming at the top of his lungs about tampering.

  71. Manish Mehta is a homer hack. Nothing he has to say holds any water, especially in regards to the Pats. The idea of someone from the Jets referring to any other team as petty is hilarious, they are most spiteful and vindictive organization in sports.

    Both teams should swap first round picks, after all, it’s pretty much the only way the Jets are going to ever get the 32nd overall pick in the draft.

  72. If there’s no penalty, there shouldn’t be a rule against the practice.

    If the penalty is weak, team’s will continue to ignore the rule.

    Your move Goodell.

  73. Yep, it’s tampering. If Revis doesn’t know that the Jets are or were interested in bringing him back then he might not be interested in hitting free agency to see what the Jets would offer. Since it affects the Patriots negotiation position with their own player while he’s not a free agent it’s tampering and there is proof. They should lose a draft pick equal to what they would get for a compensatory pick if Revis left (easily a 3rd rounder).

  74. Die hard Patriots fan. This is (1) a clear technical violation and (2) nonsense. Woody Johnson didn’t need to say anything; everyone knew there was a market for Revis. Johnson’s remarks changed nothing. Of course, I’d be delighted to have the Commish award Patriots a draft pick.

  75. j0esixpack says:
    Mar 20, 2015 9:40 AM
    I can’t wait for Goodell to announce to the world that the rules that apply to OTHER teams in the NFL are waived for his Jets….

    Goodell will never announce that fact but we all know it to be true. Chances are that Goodell and Kensil sent someone to speak to the Jets to work out a plan for punishing the Pats for having filed tampering charges against the Jets when the Jets were, you know, blatantly tampering.

  76. Bob Kraft, today listed Jason Pierre Paul, Justin Houston and Dez Bryant as their top three targets in 2016 free agency.

    Fans of the Giants, Chiefs and Cowboys are reminded to stop the pettiness, the whining and the acting like a jilted lover.
    .

  77. As a Pats fan, I’m ok with getting the Jets 2nd round pick.

    I just don’t want their 1st round pick…

    I don’t want my team to be involved in that Mariota talk…

  78. For anyone to still be pushing the bogus Spygate and Deflategate non-stories is the height of hypocrisy. EVERY team was videotaping because it was LEGAL and EVERY teams plays fast and loose with ball inflation as Aaron Rodgers admitted and the NFL DOESN’T CARE because they’ve never enforced the minor fine on the books for it. Cool, so it looks like the Patriot’s are getting the Jet’s draft pick out of this, which would be a delicious reward for losing Revis to the clown show.

  79. Anyone who says Goodell favors the Pats is cukoo for cocoa puffs.

    Goodell is former Jets employee who loathes the Pats. If he was going to help them the bogus deflategate that was manufactured by Harbaugh, his toady Pagano and former Jets employee Kensil would never have happened.

    As to the tampering there is nothing even to debate about it. Johnson’s public statement 100% meets the definition of tampering as it is laid out in the NFL rule book. Johnson cheated period.

    And all the zero tolerance Pats haters here who want Belichcik charged with a war crime for employing poison gas if he farts on the sideline don’t get to say it was only a small cheat by Johnson and shouldn’t matter.

  80. The Patriots were never going to be able to keep Revis. Great rental, and it worked.

    I’d like to get a draft pick out of the tampering charges, but it was actually much more of Woody speaking off the cuff, even though it is technically not allowed.

    Let Revis get old on someone else’s dime. He’s not changing the Jets fortune anytime soon.

  81. The Patriots cheated their way to the Super Bowl and have a history of circumventing rules. They are the last team that should be pointing the finger. Talk about no class.

  82. punish the Jets by giving them Jay Cutler and his huge contract. That’ll make an example of them

  83. if the jets are punished in ANY WAY with “tampering” with Darrelle Revis and the Patriots are let off with nothing with Deflate-gate then it is clear that Kraft runs the NFL and it is absolutely UNFAIR……if the patriots and jets are both punished then ok, you can’t have it both ways Gooddell

  84. This is different from the other tampering that was going on all over the league that weekend

    Why?

    Because Revis was NOT a free agent UNTIL that Monday at 4PM when the Patriots declined to pick up his option. Thus he was UNDER CONTRACT with a team.

    Other teams were negotiating with players who actually WERE free agents, but just before they were supposed to.

    So the “everybody does it” excuse doesn’t really apply here.

    Then you have the blatant Jets owner comments as a SEPARATE tampering incident that was textbook tampering

  85. Its amazing how many Pats fans have nothing better to do than blog all morning over a #7 pick in 2016. If you wanted Revis you could have picked up the last year on the $25 mil you had him ” contracted” for in 2015. Commit or the player should be able to hear anything. I’m a free market guy.

  86. joeconnorjr says: Why do people keep referring to Goodell as a Jets guy? He worked in the Jets PR department for one year more than 30 years ago and long before current ownership came on the scene. That hardly seems like a strong enough connection to give him a pro-Jets bias.
    ———————————–

    Look at the record. Goodell is from NY, he works in NYC. When Woody tampered in the past Goodell looked the other way, but took a 5th rounder away from the 49ers and made them swap 3rd round picks with the Bears – and Lance Briggs DIDN’T EVEN LEAVE

    Look at how he went out of his way to broker the Farve to NY deal

    Look at how he hired former Jets President Mike Kensil to be VP of NFL Game Operations – a guy with a HUGE chip on his shoulder against Belichick

    There’s more but that’s just a taste of why everyone expects that the rules that apply to OTHER teams will again be waived for the Jets

  87. The notion that Pats fans and the team are whiners after what the media and every other team in the league did to them for two weeks, over what seems to be natural deflation of a football in wet rainy weather is absolute HILARIOUS.

    Football fans are so stupid sometimes.

  88. malab377 says,

    I don’t want their first round pick..

    I don’t want my team involved in the Mariotta conversation.

    WHY? As a Patriots fan you know BB will trade it to Chip Kelly for the Eagles 1&2 this year and first round pick in 2016 ( probably trade that too)

  89. jalbs says:
    Mar 20, 2015 8:16 AM
    Let’s be serious and honest here. If Revis had been property of the Jets and Robert Kraft had overtly made the same statement Johnson did and then the Patriots struck the same deal with Revis at 1 minute past the okay to sign free agents, then the universe would be calling for the Patriots’ heads on a platter. Mehta is representing the classic example of a hypocrite. He would be leading the charge if the roles were reversed. Maybe Johnson can lobby the rules committee to change the rules just like Harbaugh is with the eligible/ineligible plays that Harbaugh got fooled on. Unreal.
    ======================================
    You might be confusing Mehta with Kravitz and Doyel.

  90. Several things:

    Mehta posted this on Twitter the day before Revis became a free agent.

    “What will it take to pry Revis away from Pats? $48M over first 3 yrs ($40M fully guaranteed)”

    Revis signed for $48 million over the first three years and $39 million fully guaranteed. Either Mehta is psychic or the Jets told them what they were offering Revis.

    Also, how could the Pats pull themselves out of the running a day before Revis became a free agent unless Revis was talking to other teams and knew his value.

    Lastly, Jason Cole wrote this last week:

    “NFL went so far as to have investigators go into the offices of several teams, including and most notably the New York Jets, to specifically look at whether the Jets had prior contact with cornerback Darrelle Revis and his representatives.”

    So the Jets were investigated as part of a larger league wide investigation and not because the Pats cried to the league as Mehta implies.

  91. BTW, I think tampering is not a big crime because the league lets everyone get away with it, but I also think videoing defensive signals which are in plain view for 80,000 people in the stadium to see isn’t a big deal either.

  92. So the Jets tampered and signed one of NE’s best defensive players away.

    the Patriots are petty for being upset about this and trying to get compensation.

    Swap first rounders, loss of a 4th.

  93. The whole “tampering” thing is pretty ridiculous, IMHO. What owner/team wouldn’t want a player like Revis?

    And this Manish guy stating Pats fans are petty and whining? Dude, we just won the Super Bowl. Not to mention, same could be said for anyone that complains about a guy video taping a sideline in front of 60,000 people – which people still whine about.

  94. Apologies for posting twice on this topic, but reading everyone’s comments so far led to some observations/thoughts.

    1) Goodell is in trouble. Jets fans thinks he is in the bag to Kraft. Pats fans see him as a Jets puppet. His credibility has never been lower and repairing it will be nearly impossible.

    2) Kraft’s anger over Deflate Gate could have impact here on Deflate Gate and Tamper Gate verdicts/penalities. Sorry Jets fans, but in terms of “owner rankings” Kraft is in top 5 with Mara’s, Rooney’s, Jones, etc. Woody is not. If Goodell wants to get Bob back in his corner, then this is an opportunity. Also important to contrast this with Spy Gate where Kraft’s anger was directed at Belichick and he was 100% in the Commish’s corner. If Goodell drops hammer on Pats and goes lightly on Jets – especially since the tamper case is clear and in lieu of a confession or video “smoking gun” the league may not have goods on Pats in deflate case – then look for Goodell to possibly be replaced in the next 1-3 years.

    3) There are 4 pending cases we know of right now – Text Gate with Browns likely guilty; Noise Gate with Falcons admitting guilt; Deflate Gate with Pats claiming innocence and with plausible scientific explanation – plus lots of bad leaks later losing credibility; Tamper Gate with Jets guilty only question is penalty in terms of $ &/or picks.

    4) The “noise”, coverage, and outrage over Deflate Gate has so far outpaced the other 3 cases combined and the others may have had more impact on integrity of game relative to balls underweight by the weight of dollar bill or 10th of an ounce of water. Points to Pats success, dislike/distrust of Belichick and some form of double standard.

    4) What is taking league so long to adjudicate these cases? The league should have all it needs by now in all 4. As this site and others have projected, look for something today/this weekend or late next where league clears the decks before lead up to draft.

    5) The fact that we have this many cases speaks to an issue with how Goodell is running league. Under Rozelle and Tagliabue, there were cases like these, but they were handled more competently and quietly.

  95. Just one question. How was Mehta able to tweet out SPECIFIC details of the Revis contract, days before he became a FA. That’s right sports fans, Mehta tweeted out that the Jets offer was likely to be $48MM over 3 years with $4oMM fully guaranteed. Again that was DAYS before Revis hit the market.

    It must have been a shock to everyone when the deal was announced, it was for $48MM over 3 years and $39MM guaranteed. 😮

    Mike, either Mehta knew the Jets were in negotiations with Revis illegally, or he has to be the go to guy when you need a lottery number. 😉

  96. “This will cost at least a 2nd rd pick,,,,you watch…this happened before,,,when the JETS poached/tampered with Curtis Martin of NE,,and the league then hit them for a 1st rd pick. They are gonna take something from the Jets and give it to the pats,,and it won’t be cash. It would be incredible if it was the 1st rd pick….LMAO.
    There is nothing to “investigate really” He said I would would like to have MEVIS back on our team, while he was under contract to another team…you can’t do that. Plain and simple.”

    Not sure who is more clueless, the poster or all the people who liked this comment. The Jets gave up a 1st round pick for signing Curtis Martin because he was a restricted free agent, not because of tampering.

  97. The facts in evidence:

    1. Revis was under contract to Patriots.

    2. The Pats had publicly stated they were looking to restructure Revis contract at the end of the 2014 season.

    3. The Jets and Johnson had not expressed an interest in signing Revis prior to his signing with the Patriots but once he was under contract, had proved himself on the field, and the Patriots were reaping the benefits the owner of the Jets made public comments that he wanted to bring Revis back to his team.

    4. Johnson’s comments interfered with the Patriots exclusive rights to negotiate with Revis who was under contract.

    5. Through surrogates in the media, the Jets allowed a steady stream of reports that Johnson not only wanted Revis back but he would be aggressive in his pursuit of the player if he hit free agency.

    6. The Jets knew or should have known that their statements and those of their surrogates would interfere with the Patriots exclusive rights to negotiate with Revis.

  98. Patriots fans are so off base here it’s ridiculous……

    the Jets signed Revis because they OFFERED HIM MORE MONEY bc they had the cap space to do so,…The Jets signing Revis has nothing to do with what Woody said, before Woody’s comments everybody in the world knew that the Jets wanted Revis back….

    Also, you don’t have to “tamper” with a player to get the word out that you want to sign a player…..where do you think these reporters get their “sources” from? From the damn teams!!!

    It happens all the time, if the jets are punished for Woody’s comments in any way besides a fine it is absolute joke

  99. This all makes perfect sense to me. Under this rule a person who says they would like to let the air out of my tire is guilty of tampering with my car. even if no tire ever goes flat, he tampered with them. Seems ok doesn’t it????????????

  100. An important point to everyone saying “of course the Jets wanted him back” is that last off-season they didn’t make any effort to sign him despite Revis reaching out to them. He would obviously have been far more likely to sign an extension in NE had he still believed the Jets didn’t want him.

  101. If Jets get penalized (let’s say swap of 2nd or 3rd rounder with NE plus a forfeiture of a 4th or 5th), it will be interesting to see if this “trade”works out well (cap space lost + draft pick).I say they make that trade every time for a talent like Revis, even at 30 years of age. Plus it helps del tickets this season & send a message to Jets fans in post-Idzik era

    For Pats, trade will be $39 million of cap space over 3 years + a 3rd round compensatory from league in 2016 + whatever they get from Jets. Do not like that in short term for Patriots, but could work out well over 2-4 year period – plus this aligns with Patriots philosophy of maintaining flexibility, building depth, “trading” down for more assets/swings of bat, not putting to many resources into one asset, etc.

  102. The NFL has absolutely no shame. They kowtow to Robert Kraft, let his team repeatedly cheat an skirt the rules in all sorts of ways, but immediately run an investigation because an owner who Kraft doesn’t like made a simple off-hand comment.

  103. For you Pat fans who don’t know Mehta. He trashes the Jets constantly. Diggs up unamed sources who say Ryan wants to be fired, Tebow was this and that in locket room. To call him a Jet homer is comical.

  104. To everyone who doesn’t understand what tampering is. It doesn’t just mean that the Jets might have been talking with Revis or his agent while he was still under contract with the Patriots (they did), but also if they gave the impression that they would pursue him if he were to be a free agent. Typically a team would simply leak interest to the media (which they did) or via direct contact with the agent through unofficial channels (which they also did). What’s shocking is they were caught red handed when Woody opened his mouth in front of the press.

    Why is this an issue? Let’s say the Pats are trying to work a contract restructure with Revis, and in the middle of negotiations he sees Woody’s press conference. At the very least he can use the Jets interest as leverage against the Pats for better terms. At worst, the discussions are tainted and he leaves for the better offer that, without tampering, he wouldn’t have know about.

    That said, does tampering happen every day? Sure it does. Does every team do it? Of course they do. But the NFL doesn’t want teams to be so blatant about it. That makes them look bad.

  105. Malab377:

    Swapping the 1st round would be great. BB would easily swap the 7th pick for a 1, 3 &4 easily…… If we get a 2nd, then again BB would swap that for two more picks. Remember the 1st round pick we traded to the Ravens where they pick Kyle Boller in 2003? That got us Wilfork…… BB knows when to trade picks.

  106. “The whole “tampering” thing is pretty ridiculous, IMHO. What owner/team wouldn’t want a player like Revis?”

    Its not a question of who wouldn’t want him, its a question of which owner is willing to pay him a huge contract.

    Johnson’s public comments made it clear that a player under contract to another team was wanted and that he’d pay big dollars for him. A textbook case of tampering per the nfl rule book.

    Any smart owner or coach has only 1 comment when asked about wanting players currently under contract to a different team –

    “I can’t comment on that because the player you’re asking about is under contract to another team”.

    Any other response is a mistake.

  107. “petty” and “whining”

    Oh, like how the Jets front office keep using Manish like a mouth piece to continue to try to cover themselves against clear rule violations?

  108. You people claiming the Jets gained no advantage, or that Revis would’ve left anyway are clearly delusional.

    Of course the Jets gained an advantage! Forget Revis for the moment, free agents to-be aren’t allowed to talk to other teams so the FA and his current team can negotiate in good faith without a bunch of noise to deal with. The Jets absolutely gained an advantage in that, at the very least, Revis then gained not only leverage over his current team, but also knowledge that there was another team THAT HE WANTED TO PLAY FOR that he now knew also wanted him. Period. If you don’t think that is gaining an advantage then you are drunk on your Patriots Haterade.

    If this sort of tampering were allowed then every team could throw a monkey wrench into their competitors negotiations by either leaking, or outright saying, they’d pay bucko bucks for player so-and-so.

    Mehta is a hack who would be crying like a 2 year old who lost his teddy bear if the roles were reversed here.

  109. this is as clear a case of tampering that is possible , the jets even tampered their way to getting the player . the pats will get one of the jets draft picks and maybe swap a early round picks .

  110. Once the Ted Wells Deflategate Report comes out the Patriots will likely lose their 1st round pick in this years draft, and Brady will sit the first 4 games of the 2015 season. That sure will take away from the luster of NBC’s Thursday Night 2015 NFL Kickoff Game, when the Patriots trot their backup QB out there. LOL

  111. I’m shocked at Pats fans interest in this story….we rented Revis for a year and won the SB. Everyone knew we wouldn’t pay him long term. Revis wanted to go back to NY, end of story.
    We should be more concerned about who we’re adding now, not who we lost. Kraft bought himself another 5-10 years before we win another one. Could have kept him if we really wanted to. We’ll still be competitive, just not as good.

  112. for anyone who think this isn’t a big deal be prepared for Bill Belichick (if he thinks there is a weak spot in the rules) to pick a player from another team he’d like to sign and say ” JJ watt is a great play , he fit right in for the pats , he would get 99% of playing time , he workouts so hard he probably deserves $1 mil in a bonus , and we’d love to have him be part of the patriots about 19.2 million percent “

  113. Lol at the hypocrites bending over backwards to explain how the Jets cheating is ok.

    It’s interesting how something so sad can be so funny.

  114. I love how the Cheatriot faithful whine about Johnson’s “tampering”, but ignore the fact Kraft did the same thing this week about the same player. Yes, Krafty made comments about Revis at the ST Patty press conference. Not to mention the fact Revis was in Mass and signed less than six hour after he was released by Tampa last year. How Belichick is even allowed near a football stadium is unfathomable. He makes Pete Rose look like an Alter Boy!

    The Chreatriots skirt more rules then the other 31 teams combined, but that’s okay in their fans pee brains.

  115. Mehta is a hack, and he is right in the middle of this mess, which explains why he wants it all to just go away. When the Jets are penalized, it will be his partly his fault for exposing the tampering, and he knows it. He’s looking for a “Get Out Of Jail Free” card.

  116. “Once the Ted Wells Deflategate Report comes out ”

    Oh and PS you’re dreaming about the penalties the Pats would face even if they were at fault. The NFL rules consider this so tiny a violation the penalty is listed as $25,000 for doing so. No loss of draft picks, no player sitting, nothing of what you expect.

  117. The Patriots are sick and tired of being falsely blamed for some things and solely punished for Tue good of everyone else, I.E the Jets also filmed defensive signals, only it was the year before the memo came out. Jets are the the hypocritical “whiners”, Mix. mehta.

  118. Pats fan here… Let me clarify. No we honestly don’t care about tampering with Revis. We don’t care if Jets get penalized or not. Our only concern is which finger we’ll put our 5th ring on. Not sure it’ll fit on the thumb so we may have to switch to the other hand. Decisions… Decisions…
    ________________________________________
    Wouldn’t it be nice to have 1 ring not marred by cheating?

  119. “Wouldn’t it be nice to have 1 ring not marred by cheating”

    Pats have 4 rings not marred by cheating. Keep up the whining though.

  120. Goodell could just suspend Sean Payton again and call it a day… It worked for him before SMH

  121. bigbits2 says: Mar 20, 2015 2:10 PM

    The Patriots are sick and tired of being falsely blamed for some things and solely punished for Tue good of everyone else, I.E the Jets also filmed defensive signals, only it was the year before the memo came out. Jets are the the hypocritical “whiners”, Mix. mehta.
    _____________________________

    Any proof or is this more NE bullmanure?

    BTW, if it happened before the rule was made, it wasn’t breaking any rules.

    There is an old cliche: Where there is smoke, there is fire. EVERY year Belichick has been in NE, they have been caught cheating. We know it’s a conspiracy; just like those black helichopters.

  122. Let’s be clear here:

    Patriots won the SB because Seahawks couldn’t take the lead back. Seahawks had it by 10 points, Patriots took it away from them, and Seahawks couldn’t take it back.

    It’s that simple.

  123. metlifeteardown says:
    Mar 20, 2015 11:47 AM
    For you Pat fans who don’t know Mehta. He trashes the Jets constantly. Diggs up unamed sources who say Ryan wants to be fired, Tebow was this and that in locket room. To call him a Jet homer is comical.
    ==================================
    To call him a responsible journalist is even funnier. I think Jonkybon is probably his biggest fan.

  124. Any “opinion” Mehta has comes directly from Woody Johnson, just like Kravitz is Irsay’s little errand boy. The Jets are using Mehta now because they think they may be in trouble for tampering with Revis and are trying to get ahead of any penalty by acting like they did nothing wrong.

  125. I think it’s likely to be a swap of third round picks as punishment.. and dont forget that compensatory pick either.

  126. jonkybon says:
    Mar 20, 2015 2:55 PM

    There is an old cliche: Where there is smoke, there is fire. EVERY year Belichick has been in NE, they have been caught cheating.

    ———-

    first of all, “where there’s smoke there’s fire” is actually an idiom, not a cliché (it is also the name of an album by Buckwheat Zydeco put out in 1990, but that’s another story). and just because it is an idiom doesn’t that doesn’t make it factual. I’ve burned toast before and created a lot of smoke in my kitchen, but there wasn’t any fire. I’ve seen cars with smoke coming out the tailpipe…..but that was because it was burning oil, not because the car was on fire. people burning their tires on the pavement can make smoke….again no fire. the fact is that smoke is evidence that there MIGHT be a fire….and might not.

    ever hear of the idiom “don’t judge a book by its cover”? It is a metaphorical phrase that means “you shouldn’t prejudge the worth or value of something by its outward appearance alone”. you should study it, might do you some good

    whitetrash69 – you too

  127. This year Pats win SB. They will be cleared of any cheating. The Jets however will be cited for tampering.

    It doesn’t get any better than this.

  128. I should correct myself…..in fact an idiom can be a cliché, because basically a cliché is a phrase that is overused and lacks any original thought…..so jonkybon you were right to call it a cliche. my apology.

  129. 6ball says:
    Mar 20, 2015 9:57 AM
    Bob Kraft, today listed Jason Pierre Paul, Justin Houston and Dez Bryant as their top three targets in 2016 free agency.

    Fans of the Giants, Chiefs and Cowboys are reminded to stop the pettiness, the whining and the acting like a jilted lover.
    ///////////////////////////////////////////
    6ball must have graduated from the Chris Mortenson school of making crap up.

  130. @whitetrash69, yeah, since the Pats were accused (story retracted only after the SB loss) of taping a walkthrough practice, and that story being 100% untrue, the Pats are indeed wick and tired of being falsely accused of misdeeds. Most recently they have been destroyed and accused of witchcraft regarding what I thought was basic 10th grade science by the flat earthers.

  131. bigbits2 says: Mar 20, 2015 4:45 PM

    @whitetrash69, yeah, since the Pats were accused (story retracted only after the SB loss) of taping a walkthrough practice, and that story being 100% untrue, the Pats are indeed wick and tired of being falsely accused of misdeeds. Most recently they have been destroyed and accused of witchcraft regarding what I thought was basic 10th grade science by the flat earthers.

    —-
    Who cares what the inferior fans of inferior teams think. All that matters is the World Champion Patriots are on top of the mountain where they should be. 🙂

    And that makes those inferior fans of inferior teams so angry. 🙂

  132. Just check phone records. If anyone in the Jets organization called anyone in the Revis camp before Revis was released, then it’s tampering. PFT keeps talking about the 3 day window for legal tampering. Problem is that Revis wasn’t a FA in that window. He was still under contract to the Patriots. That’s the difference. That is tampering.

    And if you punish the Jets, none of this swapping picks like in the Lance Briggs case. The Pats should get the Jets pick in whatever round.

  133. whitetrash69 says: Mar 20, 2015 4:17 PM

    The Pats are sick of being accused of cheating? Simple solution, STOP CHEATING.

    —-

    Not sick of that at all. Inferior fans of inferior teams to the Patriots say anything to make them feel better about their inferiority.

    What I AM sick of however is Steeler fan demanding respect for the fraud that they call a dynasty. No…you will get no respect for that because you didn’t earn it.

    Let’s see your team win ONE legit title first, untainted by PED cheating or paid off refs, and THEN you can compare your team to the measuring stick of greatness that is the World Champion Patriots.

    Not before.

    🙂

  134. As for the Jets and tampering…

    Florio eloquently stated the facts. This is NOT IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM a simple case of someone making an off the cuff remark without thinking. There is MUCH more to it, and it’s clear as day that tampering occurred. That is not opinion, that is fact.

    If the NFL wants to demonstrate the integrity that it likes to talk about, then I will accept nothing less than a punishment that makes the Jets organization feel a lot of pain.

  135. My feeling is that, no matter what the Patriots offered (and they went high enough in my opinion at 35 million in guaranteed money) is that the Jets were going to one up them on the deal, knowing that Revis would bite on the money FIRST, and the “I want to win more rings” second.

    The Patriots don’t, and never have, played that game. It’s too bad, because I believe more rings are possible. That bid is significantly hurt by the loss of Revis, and Brady is getting older.

    Brady has deferred so much money and restructured enough over his career that this has to upset him, though he’ll never admit it publicly.

  136. I went to the 2010 AFC Divisional, you remember, the game the lowly Jets made 14-2 Brady flinch all day. Anyway, upon arriving a confused rent a cop pointed in 2 different directions as to which way to go. We froze as he had two arms going different ways. This Mass person then came up to the car and yelled “your an Explative”. It must have been the NJ plates. This is why no one likes you guys. That and the old cats working Fenway. Outside of Spygate, deflategate(still waiting), dancing on Chargers emblem to taunt, Hernandez, Brady flopping and dropping F bombs all game and pouting to officials,Welkers Hooters wife, your treatment of long time veterans, 4 man lines, pick plays. Trickery. Now you have a 4th SB and your totally whining like a bunch of PETA attorneys about how some owner said hed love to have a player everyone would love to have and everyone knows it. Your 2003-2004 teams were awesome BTW. Defense. 2007 got figured out.That 2003 team, NEVER, loses that divisional. Mark Sanchez 3-2 versus Mr. Universe at the time? Ryan may be a genius after all. I mean, he beat Manning the week before on the road. I’ll go with any ruling the NFL makes on this, but Kraft hanging with the Commish is a conflict of interest is it not?

  137. rollotomasi14 says: It’s not about a pick, it’s about the hypocrisy
    _______________________

    Well said,

    NFL executives and former Jets executives want to punish Belichick for any violation of “unwritten rules”

    Clear violations of “written rules” by the Jets?

    No big deal and anyone who expects the Jets to actually follow the NFL’s rules is just a whining nitpicker

  138. Want to stop tampering? Well if the. Jets tampered take away 39 million for this years salary cap, if the Dolphins did take away the 60 million that will end the tampering just make their teams uncompetitive .

  139. Interesting tweet from Mehta going back to December 29

    @MMehtaNYDN: Woody Johnson on Revis: “Darrelle’s a great player. I’d love Darrelle to come back.” …. Revis under contract w/ Patriots. Tampering? #nyj

    So, what made ya change you mind Manish? 🙂

  140. For those who say they get it, but it’s not a big deal, what Woody did was give Revis leverage against the Pats and knowledge that the Jets were willing to spend big for him.

    That is why tampering is bad, and this was clearly tampering.

    Also, what do spygate or deflategate – an unresolved issue, no less – have to do with this?

    The Pats were grossly overfined in one case due to a camera placement technicality, and the other is shaky at best and still pending, but because of these things the Patriots should allow the Jets to tamper with their players?

    Mehta may be a friend of PFT, but he’s clearly a hypocrite.

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