Rooney cites scheduling as potential impediment to playoff expansion

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The many proposed rule and bylaw changes to be considered next week by NFL owners don’t include a potential expansion of the postseason from 12 to 14 teams.  Unofficially, the NFL is waiting to tie to larger postseason pool of games to the next sale of the Thursday Night Football package.  Officially, the NFL is concerned about how to properly schedule the two extra wild-card games.

“I think we’ve always said [playoff expansion] is something that’s worth considering,” Steelers president Art Rooney II told the team’s official website.  “But the details of it, when would the game get scheduled?  Monday night is one of the possibilities, which I don’t think is a great alternative.  The idea is OK, it’s just that when you get down to exactly how does it work, it gets a little complicated.”

It gets complicated because adding a game on Monday night could require a team to play in the divisional round on only five days later.  Which apparently is a problem even though the NFL has no qualms about requiring every team to play at least one regular-season game only four days after a Sunday game.

“That’s not ideal for the league to have a team that’s going to play on Monday night and then have to come back the next week and play on a short week, where even on a Saturday is a possibility,” Rooney said.  “That’s a complication that, there again, we need to figure it out.  The [new expanded] college playoff piece of it is sort of in the mix there in terms of when does that game get played?  It’s part of the discussion.”

It’s odd that the NFL seems intent on putting one of the extra games on Monday night, especially since the NFL doesn’t currently play a Monday night game in Week 17.  The easiest change to the schedule would be the creation of a Saturday and Sunday tripleheader, with kickoff times each day matching the kickoff times of the Thanksgiving trio of games.

A Friday night playoff game also is possible.  Though it would entail a short week, both teams would be playing only five days after their final regular-season game, avoiding any potential competitive disadvantage.

Regardless, the NFL stands to make many more millions by making the No. 2 seed in each conference play the No. 7 seed.  It’s believed to be an inevitability, once it can be linked to the many more millions that will be made once the Thursday night games are placed out for bidding on a multi-year deal.

65 responses to “Rooney cites scheduling as potential impediment to playoff expansion

  1. Just do three games on Saturday and Sunday. FOX gets two games on Saturday and CBS or NBC or whatever the other one is gets two games Sunday

  2. Add a week for a play in game this gets them extra games plus brings them closer to getting the Super Bowl on Presidents day weekend which is the ultimate goal.

  3. Football Outsiders did a study of the current playoff format vs. the 7 team playoff format ( 2 v. 7, 3 v. 6, 4 v. 5, 1 bye) and the regular season’s best team won the Superbowl much more frequently than in the original format. I think this is great. More teams, more stability since less personnel will be fired, more revenue, more Potential for bigger upsets, and (on average) the best teams win more frequently. I think this is a win-win for the NFL and it’s fans.

  4. Playoff expansion was not a priority this year because Jerry’s team made a rare postseason appearance. Once Jerry’s team returns to form and starts missing the playoffs again, the issue will be one of the top items on the agenda because Goodell follows Jerry’s instructions.

  5. The system works just fine the way it is now! No expansion, no dilution.

  6. the playoffs are special b/c only good teams who earn it get in (well and Indy too, they’re trash but) adding more teams would reward trash and dilute the regular season.

  7. Yeah, let’s just let everybody in the playoffs. While we’re at it, why not have one team divisions that way everyone can win their division and get a little trophy?

    Trophies for everyone!

  8. It’s already spread itself so thin… Any thinner and the dough just might break.

    Might turn into the NBA where many fewer fans even care about regular season because half the league will be in the postseason.

    NFL might garner larger ratings from January forward…. But will it make up for the hit to interest during the entire regular season?

    Preseason is already abysmal. Expanded playoffs might make them even worse. If possible.

  9. The playoff system is fine. The NFL is doing well. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

  10. if it has to happen, it’s very simple…
    12:30 (Eastern) kickoff, 4:30 kickoff, and 8:30 kickoff on both Saturday and Sunday. Fox and CBS do the afternoon games, alternating as they do now (Fox 12:30/CBS 4:30 on Sat, CBS 12:30/Fox 4:30 on Sun – then reverse the following year), ESPN gets Saturday night, NBC gets Sunday night.

  11. I think Rooney also cited the lack of Dr Rydze to explain both the lack of Steelers presence in the playoffs in recent years, and the lack of Steelers success if there…..

  12. One of the reasons NFL is so popular because it leaves people wanting more, if you start to over saturate it like the other sports, it will lose it’s shine.

  13. I’m so sick of the constant money grab by the NFL(among all the other Goddell driven nonsense) that frankly the NFL could disappear tomorrow and I wouldn’t care.

  14. You guys must be really young if you don’t remember the last playoff expansion…how did that turn out? Pretty good I’d say…

  15. 4 new expansion teams. 18 game season. Make it a nice round 16 teams into the “February Frenzy!” (TM) extended playoffs (round robin). Have the draft happen 4 weeks after either the NFC Superbowl of Champions, the AFC Championship Super Bowl, or the Final Superbowl Armaggedon Series (best of 7).

    Sorted!

  16. Hell it’s the NFL.

    Get Godell to expand the year to 54 weeks from 52 and problem solved.

  17. Road Trip hit the head of the nail, regarding expanding the playoffs. His concept would work. The likelihood of upsets would be high,and most importantly of all, the TV ratings would go through the roof.

  18. I would like to see more NFL action. Too short as it is.

    For the regular season go to 18 games with 2 pre-season games and force the teams to only allow each player to dress for 16 games. The intrigue would be worth it and make fantasy football more interesting. The NFL in return could expand rosters and allow for more player development (especially for back-up QBs). They would have more revenue which means more money for the players too.

    Win-win all the way around.

  19. lolatpatshaters says:
    Mar 20, 2015 7:10 PM
    I think Rooney also cited the lack of Dr Rydze to explain both the lack of Steelers presence in the playoffs in recent years, and the lack of Steelers success if there…..

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  20. Don’t change a thing

    The current system lets 7-9 teams into the playoffs but keeps 11-5 teams out

    The LAST thing we want to do is water down the playoffs with 11-5 teams or other teams with winning seasons. That’s just going to make the competition tougher and NO ONE wants to see THAT!

    I say lets find a way to let 6-10 teams in before we consider expanding the playoffs to include 11-5 teams

  21. So they want to show a Monday playoff game at 5:15 west coast time? How is that better than doing 2 triple headers? We know they’re going to start at 10am PST, so west coasters will still be inconvenienced either way.

  22. I hope someone has thought about the real problem of playing the Super Bowl on Valentine’s Day, because playing it on February 14th will cause a lot of relationship strife that won’t be fixed by putting a female-friendly halftime act on.

  23. you would think another reason is that the playoff system is great just the way it is. if you start to allow half the league to make the playoffs instead of about a third you water down the playoffs. its just a way to keep crappy teams in the mix so ratings never slip end of year and those thursday games between two 5 and 9 teams will have playoff implications. this country rewards mediocrity enough already!!!

  24. Remember how awful the games on wild card weekend thus year were ?

    Now they want to add another crappy game and dilute the playoffs. Horrible idea.

  25. commenter
    Mar 20, 2015, 4:19 PM MDT

    Just leave the game alone. Hasn’t it made you people enough money?
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    Their greed know no boundaries.

  26. ddaveyy says: You guys must be really young if you don’t remember the last playoff expansion…how did that turn out? Pretty good I’d say…

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    Are you kidding me??? Just as I said back in 1990, expanding from 10 to 12 playoff teams only watered down the playoffs

    The NFL is weaker today than ever before, just like I said, it was going to ruin the league and it did

    And things will be even WORSE if they start letting 11-5 teams into the playoffs

    We need to protect the integrity of the game and continue giving 7-9 teams the home field advantage in the playoffs that they earned in the regular season

    We WANT the weaker teams in the playoffs, don’t you get it?

    If it’s not broke, don’t fix it

  27. realnflfan2015 says: Mar 20, 2015 8:10 PM

    lolatpatshaters says:
    Mar 20, 2015 7:10 PM
    I think Rooney also cited the lack of Dr Rydze to explain both the lack of Steelers presence in the playoffs in recent years, and the lack of Steelers success if there…..

    6 2
    Report comment
    ———————–
    recent poll on reason people are down on the nfl:
    Violence against women
    Drugs, Dui and PEDs
    And Pats cheating.
    Look up what poll that was. If I mention it here I’ll get deleted

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    Nice red herring 🙂

    How come after Dr Rydze left the team the Steelers can’t even win a playoff game? How come they’re not even good enough to not get incinerated by Tim Tebow of all QB’s?

    #hmmm
    #iknowwhy
    #Steelers0LegitTitles
    #4bycheating2byrefs

  28. Play them at 1, 4:30 and 8 on Saturday and Sunday.

    Early game on Saturday to ESPN, late game on Sunday to NBC and the other four get spilt up between FOX and CBS.

    What so hard?

  29. RE: sasattack

    What are you doing commenting on PFT if you’re so over the NFL????

  30. It’s simple: expand the playoffs by one week. That would put the superbowl on the Sunday before President’s day and everyone would get a holiday after their superbowl party!

  31. How about Super Bowl SATURDAY so I can get hammered because I usually hate both teams and really why watch it otherwise?

  32. It would be a lot easier and more profitable if the NFL scheduled the games first then auctioned each one off.

  33. This is not about football, its about making money, how do you think Roger keeps his job. The talent pool has been weak since there were only 14 teams, and there is talk of adding more teams. I was happy to get a team in the mid 60’s, even when it reduce the league talent pool. However if they do increase the number of teams in the post season then some day in 2020 my fish may find there way there. Bill

  34. Outside of the Saturday and Sunday tripleheaders, you schedule 3 games SAturday,2 games Sunday and one Monday. Slot the Monday winner to play the Sunday of divisional weekend. As it is now, a Sunday winner on many occasions has won on wild card weekend then played the following Saturday. Just make sure each team has a least 6 days between games. In 2010 when Green Bay won the Super Bowl, they beat Philly in Philly on a Sunday then turned around and played Atlanta the following Saturday. How hard can this be, think boys, think!!

  35. Of all sports in America, the NFL is the best. The NFL gives you just enough with 16 weeks and then the playoffs to leave you satisfied and not burnt out. Its special as we don’t have 82 games and its on a few times a week. Now as the years are passing, they are adding and changing rules and trying to have a game on every frigging night. Stop taking away the things that make the NFL unique.

  36. One each at 1, 4, 8 Saturday and Sunday using the same format on a regular season schedule. There are 1 PM games, 4 PM games, and Al Michaels and Cris Collinsworth do Sunday Night Football. Really not that hard to figure out when you have been doing it all season long for a while now.

  37. I don’t mind keeping the old 6 team format but every year there’s a team with a winning record, 11-5 or 10-6, that can’t make it to playoff while a team with losing record like the Panthers, 7-9, that got in. With the 7 team format, it might balance things out.

  38. How about starting the season a few weeks earlier? Instead of playing meaningless games all August, why not start the season before Labor Day, finish before Christmas and add one extra week to the playoffs?

  39. sw19womble says:
    Mar 20, 2015 7:35 PM
    4 new expansion teams. 18 game season. Make it a nice round 16 teams into the “February Frenzy!” (TM) extended playoffs (round robin). Have the draft happen 4 weeks after either the NFC Superbowl of Champions, the AFC Championship Super Bowl, or the Final Superbowl Armaggedon Series (best of 7).

    Sorted!

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    Brilliant!

    However – I think we can even improve upon this…

    By expanding 8 teams (4 in Europe and 4 in Asia) you could hold a Continental Super Bowl Tournament (TM) – followed by the World Champions League of the NFL , where each leagues champion and runner up enter into a round robin tournament – followed by a knockout stage!

    The winners THEN goes into your Final Superbowl Armaggedon Series (best of 7).

    I just want to clarify something, however;

    If in the best of 7 – Final Superbowl Armaggedon Series, a team starts out and wins 4 games straight, to go up 4-0, the final 3 games are still played – right? I mean, after all, those seats will be pre-sold and the fans will want to see those games, yes?

    Just wondering.

  40. Rooney needs to answer for covering up the Goodell scandal.

    He must be a liar just like Goodell

  41. People already whine about some team every year that didn’t “deserve” to make the playoffs, usually due to a poor record but winning a weak division. Either stick with what you have, or adjust to two divisions in each conference, so you don’t have as much chance of winning a weak division.

  42. Great idea!

    Next, let’s see the NFL extend the regular season to 17 or 18 games, eliminate two of the exhibition shams and value price them to $20 (optional purchase), and add 4 teams via expansion, including Canada & UK.

    The naysayers dropped similar negative comments re previous schedule and team expansions of the 60s – ’90s: “too diluted” and “the NFL is expanding itself out of business”. Yet, NFL popularity continues to grow and dominate sports — 19 of 20 the highest rated 2013 TV shows were NFL games.

  43. I LOVE football…so the more football, the better!

    Here’s a simple solution to the playoffs and also a simple solution to expanding the regular season.

    Start the season in August, and expand the regular season to 20 games. Give each team 4 Bye weeks.

    That still gives an extra week for an additional playoff game at the end of the season.

    The best part of the 4 bye weeks is the players get rested AND they still only play 16 games a season!!

    What say y’all?

  44. They’ve already go losing teams making the playoffs but they want still MORE playoff teams?

  45. First of all the playoffs shouldn’t be expanded. The 3 of the 4 first round playoff games were awful and horribly played.

    Second if they do expand it, i love how the NFL and their clueless owners cant figure out a simple thing like scheduling. Goes to show money doesnt equal intelligence

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