Report: Seahawks, Wilson “very close” to a new deal

AP

The Seahawks have increased Marshawn Lynch’s compensation to $12 million in 2015.  They’ve also traded for Jimmy Graham, who’ll get $27 million over three years despite never playing a down for the team.  Meanwhile, quarterback Russell Wilson continues to operate under a slotted third-round rookie deal that in comparison pays him peanuts.

That soon could change.

Terry Blount of ESPN.com, while appearing on 710 ESPN in Seattle, said that a deal between the Seahawks and Wilson could be coming.

“From what I’ve been told they’re very close, they’re just trying to make sure every single thing is in place before they go forward with this,” Blount said.  “I think it’s going to be bigger and crazier and different from what any contract has ever been.”

There has been plenty of speculation that the Seahawks are considering a fully-guaranteed contract for Wilson that would keep the cap burden lower while also ensuring he’ll get every penny.  This would require owner Paul Allen to fully fund the future guarantees at signing, but that’s something he easily can afford to do.

The Seahawks would have to be willing to assume the risk of career-ending injury.  And they’d have to assume the risk of ineffectiveness.  Most importantly, the team would be assuming the risk of non-career-ending injury leading to ineffectiveness.

Case in point:  Robert Griffin III.  His torn ACL didn’t end his career, but it changed his career to the point where Washington may not pick up the fifth-year option on his rookie contract in May.  A similar injury to Wilson wouldn’t end his career but it could significantly diminish his skills.  Then what would the Seahawks and their “always compete” approach do with a guy into whom so much money has been invested?

However they do it, the time has come to reward Russell Wilson.  The challenge will be determining the right amount and the right structure — especially since some would say the jury is still out on his overall passing skills.

UPDATE 11:35 p.m. ET:  In response to the report from Blount, a source with knowledge of the situation tells PFT that talks have not yet commenced.

141 responses to “Report: Seahawks, Wilson “very close” to a new deal

  1. wilsons good, but he aint half as good as seahawks fans think he is. guy plays hard though. and he can shoot from the hip , probably better than most. but hes on an insane roster, whos on an insane run. be interseting to see how he fares once beast mode and that great team chemistry theyve had going tje last few years fades…..as a niner fan, i hope im right.

  2. Pretty much anything the Seahawks do is risky and so far they have been able to reap the rewards. Hopefully this will continue after so many years of failure in the 90s under Ken Behring. Remember him trolls? Yeah, didn’t think so…

  3. This is impossible for them to overcome, they will lose some talent and perhaps slip in the power rankings. Look at what happened to the Ravens after they gave Joe all that money.

  4. RG3s injury didn’t change his career. His inability to become a more traditional QB has. Refusing to play a style that suits his skills, like Wilson does and basically dictating to coaches what plays and style the wants is the biggest problem. Two coaches same feelings isn’t a coincidence.

  5. calicokiller49 | Mar 21, 2015, 7:29 AM EDT
    wilsons good, but he aint half as good as seahawks fans think he is. guy plays hard though. and he can shoot from the hip , probably better than most. but hes on an insane roster, whos on an insane run. be interseting to see how he fares once beast mode and that great team chemistry theyve had going tje last few years fades…..as a niner fan, i hope im right.
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    I agree, but as a niner fan you need to hope for a miracle and for a new owner.

  6. Colts fan here: I still struggle with seeing so much money invested in one position. I cringe when our owner promises to make Andy the highest paid QB. It seems counterintuitive to put such a high percentage of your limited resources into one person. And yet everyone does it. Makes no sense to me. The Seahawks are about to find that out. My beloved Colts will return to that scenario next season. All the best to Wilson, who seems to be a great guy. All the best to Andy, who seems to be a great guy. Hopefully, their teams will find ways to be competitive going forward with less money to pay other guys who do play roles in the successes of those teams.

  7. ravenswhat says:
    Mar 21, 2015 7:40 AM
    Luck wouldn’t miss on that 1 yard slant. I’ll tell you that much.
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    No he would fumble the ball instead.

  8. Well, say what you like about Wilson he has more than earned a pay raise, he has played for peanuts so far in his career (In football money terms). He deserves his pay day he has been a major part of getting the Seahawks to two Super Bowls, he may not be the type of QB everyone wants to see but he has been so far very effective.

  9. No way Chip Kelly makes that move, which why he’s the sharpest GM in the league. Wilson’s not qualified to carry Bradford’s jock strap.

    The Seachokes are THEjokes of the NFL.

    Go Eagles!

  10. jimnaizeeum says: Mar 21, 2015 7:24 AM

    “Very close” as in at the one yard line. What could go wrong?

    +1
    Bazinga!

  11. At the signing just as he’s about to put pen to paper Malcom Butler comes out of nowhere blows up his agent and rips the pen out of his hand..,once again ripping his heart out and crushing his soul.

  12. Look what happened to the Falcons 3 years ago…. We hi the cap had to bust up the team and we go from knocking off the Seachickens and missing the SB by one play against SFO…..we had more wins in 3 years than anybody and sunk to the bottom last 3 years ….. Welcome Seattle

  13. Paul Allen will be even less popular at the owners meetings if he fully guarantees a contract as large as the one that Wilson is going to sign.

  14. I love how fans of other teams try to educate Hawks fans on Wilson, because you know… they’ve watched every single game Wilson has played for the Seahawks and know what he brings to the team… they must think that Lynch would run as he does for any other team if he didn’t have Wilson as a duel threat. They must think the defense is throwing TDs and long balls. No other QB in this league would be able to do as much as he does behind a very mediocre pass blocking OL.

    I have absolutely no worries that Wilson will always find a way to produce and will be worthy of the contract. I hope it’s friendly in therms of the cap hit and so having a larger guarantee is a good idea. Wilson has always been harping about winning, so I think the contract will reflect that he didn’t go for the highest amount of money possible.

    Look at Kaepernicks contract. The team basically says that they don’t trust him. It’s moronic to sign a deal where you can be cut each off-season. It’s great for the team in a way, but at the same time bad… because there will be controversy if he doesn’t deliver. Teams need stability. I want the Seahawks not to go for historic salaries, but just show trust in Wilson and that’s what likely will happen.

  15. Luck wouldn’t miss on that 1 yard slant. I’ll tell you that much.

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    Care to tell me how well has Luck done against the Patriots or elite teams?

    How many interceptions has he had against the Patriots?

  16. Maybe this will prompt them to draft some good O-line men to protect Wilson so he doesn’t have to run for his life on every other play.

  17. chiadam says:
    Mar 21, 2015 8:11 AM
    Paul Allen will be even less popular at the owners meetings if he fully guarantees a contract as large as the one that Wilson is going to sign.
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    Somehow I don’t think Paul Allen would care what the other owners think.

  18. If anyone that deserves to get paid, it’s Russell Wilson. Remember the Seahawks didn’t go anywhere even with Lynch and that Defense until Wilson came on board. The kid is a winner and an incredible leader. I hope they will give him $100M guarantee.

  19. Trudirk, it is laughable to read some of the posts.
    A comment that Wilson isn’t able to carry Bradford’s jock strap? Wow… just wow…
    I wonder what exactly Bradford has accomplished to make that comment.
    Russell gets called a game manager, but how is ANY QB not a game manager. It is part of the job description.
    They say that he owes it to the defense and claims that he wouldn’t have the success if he was on another team. While it may be true that the success would go down, he still would instantly improve ANY team out there. Including the Patriots and Green Bay.

  20. Patriots fan, but very impressed with how good Wilson is. Glad Seattle can now try to compete with a $10-$15 million QB cap hit. He is well worth it though.

  21. @lega1eagle, the most insane and stupid move Chip Kelly did this off season was to trade Foles for Bradford because Bradford is a BUST. Mark my words!!

  22. He is a .500 QB without that defense and Lynch. He is not good enough to be the main piece.

  23. The posters here criticizing Wilson for giving him fair market value are clueless, what should they do? Just let him walk? Of course we will need to get rid of some players with high cap hits, but we’re also a good drafting tream and Schneider will continue to fill those holes through the draft with inexpensive contracts. We’ll be absolutely fine, Wilson will look even better in a couple of years with an increased role.

  24. Wilson puts the ball on the ground too much. He coughed it up 12 times last season and unbelievably the Seahawks recovered every one.
    When the reality of “averages” catches up with him he’s going to look pretty regular.

  25. Here’s the deal folks. You are paying for past performance and hoping for the same in the future. Wilson has been a solid but not elite passer since his NC State days and he is blessed to have the legs to get him out of trouble. He should be the face of that franchise and I’ve long waited to see a fully guaranteed contract in the NFL!! I’d venture to guess he’s the kind of guy to take around 15 million avg per year for however long the team feels comfortable extending him. I think that sounds pretty cap friendly so the Hawks can stay contenders for the foreseeable future.

  26. The negotiations can’t have been contentious. A simple index card showing the Seahawks record before/Seahawks record after Wilson’s arrival.

    Sprinkle in back to back Super Bowl appearances, a SB win and the eyeball test. Throw in with who every DC would agree is the hardest QB in the league to defend.

    Did I mention all the 3-year records he shattered & a pro bowl in which in was the MVP.(though not rewarded) Anybody who says: “especially since some would say the jury is still out on his overall passing skills.” Just hasn’t watched him throw.

    Wilson should be the highest paid player in the NFL, PERIOD.

  27. The fact is that Wilson is very average and extremely overrated, this is a problem for the Seahawks.

  28. The price of a top 10 QB/SB winning QB is what teams look for when it comes to big days. All teams hope to be in a situation where they have a chance. Russ is at that point and to not pay him and go with another QB? What other QB? Pay him because the risk is much greater not to. This team went no place before he came here and they had Lynch and the LOB in 2010 and 2011 , both years they were 7-9. He was why they got to 2 SB’s in a row. If you think Tjack or BJ would have done the same thing then they would be getting paid right now.

  29. niners816 says:
    Mar 21, 2015 7:49 AM

    For the new Seattle fans, he’s your qb. He’s #3.
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    EVERY team acquires new fans when they’re doing well…a concept that may be very foreign to a Niners fan. I still remember when I first fell in love with football. Super Bowl III…NY Jets…Joe Namath. We were all “new” fans at one time or another. As a lifelong fan, I welcome any new fans to the game with open arms. Especially new Hawks fans!

  30. To suggest he would improve any team, including Zgreen Bay or New England reflects a thorough misunderstanding of the game. He is good, don’t get me wrong…he’s not Rodgers or Brady good….he’s not even Manning, Luck or Matt Stafford good. He’s Joe Flacco or Phillip Rivers good. He’s Eli Manning with a better defense. Seahawks fans are always a treat to listen to or read comments from, the hyperbole (Google.com) is laughable. If you’re going to try to talk about how great your QB is in a forum like this, try not to come across like you started watching the game this year.

  31. To suggest he would improve any team, including Green Bay or New England reflects a thorough misunderstanding of the game. He is good, don’t get me wrong…he’s not Rodgers or Brady good….he’s not even Manning, Luck or Matt Stafford good. He’s Joe Flacco or Phillip Rivers good. He’s Eli Manning with a better defense. Seahawks fans are always a treat to listen to or read comments from, the hyperbole (Google.com) is laughable. If you’re going to try to talk about how great your QB is in a forum like this, try not to come across like you started watching the game this year.

  32. dukeearl says: Mar 21, 2015 8:30 AM

    Trudirk, it is laughable to read some of the posts.
    A comment that Wilson isn’t able to carry Bradford’s jock strap? Wow… just wow…
    I wonder what exactly Bradford has accomplished to make that comment.
    Russell gets called a game manager, but how is ANY QB not a game manager. It is part of the job description.
    They say that he owes it to the defense and claims that he wouldn’t have the success if he was on another team. While it may be true that the success would go down, he still would instantly improve ANY team out there. Including the Patriots and Green Bay.

    That’s right. Slam everyone else for saying something laughable, and follow that with the dumbest comment of the day.

  33. He is a .500 QB without that defense and Lynch. He is not good enough to be the main piece.

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    We had that defense AND Lynch for almost two seasons BEFORE Wilson’s arrival. Both seasons we went 7-9. AFTER Wilson’s arrival, we go 11-5 with our first road playoff win in DECADES, 13-3 and our first Super Bowl win EVER, and 12-4, just one play from back-to-back Super Bowl wins.

    What are you talking about!?! Get a clue,troll.

  34. Could you imagine if they didn’t sign him, a PR nightmare. The cap isn’t the only thing needing managed. If they substitute more momey on a contract they’re gambling on his health; with a scrambling QB I’d stay away.

  35. As a Titans fan, I know what a quarterback deficit is. And in our position, QB excellence is pretty obvious when you see it. Russell Wilson is top shelf. There are only 4 active QBs I’d rather have than him.

  36. There are at least 25 teams in the league that could take Wilson today and their fan bases would fall over themselves praising ownership for getting him. Most of you that are disparaging Wilson are those fans. Just shut up and draft your own damn QB. Go Hawks!

  37. Wilson has an excellent career ahead of him and is worth investing in. I like the way he makes quick, correct decisions on the field–this is a quality that separates just a handful of today’s QB’s from all the rest. He looks comfortable in tough situations and knows when to run. Extremely difficult to game plan for.

  38. If their owner is willing to go almost fully guaranteed so it doesn’t hurt the cap, the Seahawk fans are very lucky.

    I’m so sick and tired of this guy being questioned in skills. He won them a ring and is one butler play away from two. Wilson is not to blame for that play, butler is because he made the better play. Remember ot against the packers? All Wilson. Super Bowl last year? Looked like Tom Brady.

  39. The Patriots were 50/50 in taking Mirer over Drew Bledsoe in ’93. That’s how close those 2 were rated at that time if I remember correctly. Seems strange now. That one choice– (along with the purchase of the team by Kraft, hiring Bill Parcells) changed the fortune of the franchise.

    Bledsoe doesn’t get enough credit for helping to create that winning atmosphere that still exists. The Patriots had become a laughingstock prior to that.

  40. I feel sorry for the Seahawks when they ask Russell Wilson to carry a football team because they can’t pay other great players.

  41. Those who still bloviate about how Russell Wilson’s pairing with an elite defense magically accounts for his superb production need not look far to discredit that. The 2013 Seahawks had the best defense over the last decade but it’s widely agreed that the 2008 Steelers was right up there as second (or arguably tied) and also among the best ever. Now go look at Ben Roethlisberger’s stats that year. Dude barely had a positive TD/INT ratio. After that, examine Wilson’s stats from 2013. Suddenly a 26/9 ratio doesn’t look all that bad, and that’s not even touching his numbers on the ground as one of the rare true dual threat passers in the history of this league, such as Steve Young and Fran Tarkenton.

  42. Wilson is a game manager, throw him behind center to replace any of the greats (Manning, Rodgers, Brady, Luck,…) the teams would not even make the playoffs.
    The team is all about the run, stop that and you beat them, Dilfer would have had the same numbers and he was by no means a top tier QB.

  43. Damn. Russell Wilson is not RG3. RG3 was NEVER in Wilson’s class, even before RG3’s injury. There is not a person out there who would not be thrilled to have Wilson as the QB for their team. Dis him all you want, if he was leading your team you would be singing a very different song. Pay the man, he deserves it.

  44. jimnaizeeum says:
    Mar 21, 2015 7:24 AM
    “Very close” as in at the one yard line. What could go wrong?
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Now that’s funny, I don’t care who you are…..

  45. Two comments: First, to “These guys make way too much money–in any sport. It’s absurd.”
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    Yes, they make a lot of money. But it’s peanuts compared to what stockbrokers often make. And how often do stockbrokers put their health at risk? What, getting staple through a thumb? Choking to death on an ice cube during a meeting over lunch? And what is the skill level of a stockbroker compared to that of an NFL player, much less an elite one?

    Second, to “The Seachokes are THEjokes of the NFL. Go Eagles!”
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    Uh, what was the score in the Eagles-Seahawks game last year? And what team was in the last two SBs? Joke is kind of on you, now isn’t it.

  46. 3 time outs from the 50. It does not get any easier.

    Oh no!

    What happened?

    He undercut the route.

    I was surprised Seattle made the playoffs this past year. Let alone made it to the super bowl.

    Should be interesting next year with the pick up of graham. They might make it back.

    But I see this team falling apart in 2016.

  47. Always fun to read the comments from people who know nothing about the team.

    Cap hell? The core of the team is locked up until 2017, and isn’t going anywhere. The contract will be an extension that will pay Wilson a large signing bonus this year, but keep his salary flat. There was enough space this year to easily absorb signing Graham and Williams, and there is plenty of projected cap room next year for both Wagner and Wilson to resign moving forward.

    Someone said look at what happened to the Ravens after they resigned Flacco. I saw them miss the playoffs one season and then get right back into them the next, thanks to smart drafting and solid coaching. Maxwell and Unger are the two major losses this offseason, and the team has already taken steps to compensate for losing Maxwell.

    Plus, Seattle will receive four compensatory picks in the upcoming draft, and very likely four more in 2016 as well. The biggest challenge they face right now is replacing their center (and they already have Patrick Lewis on the roster, who played well during Unger’s injury last year), right guard (and finding an upgrade from Carpenter shouldn’t be too difficult), and adding to the depth of the offensive and defensive lines. Pick up a WR prospect and a PR/KR. These are not insurmountable problems by any means, especially when you’re starting with one of the best rosters in the league, and have already added a premier receiving weapon.

  48. LOL sooo many haters/wanna be GMs on here… the deal hasn’t come out yet, but oh, wait whats that?? We already know Seattle is screwed?! Yet, they keep finding effective ways to build a roster, cut their losses when they have to, draft better than most teams, and have a GM who actually knows how to manage a roster?!? But how?? How is that possible??

    All I’ve been hearing for years is Seattle is screwed because of Wilson’s new deal. We haven’t even seen it yet. Keep hating on Wilson all you want. Unless you’ve got Rodgers, Brady, or Luck lining up behind center you really have no argument

    And to the guy talking about Wilson not able to carry Brittle Bradford’s jock… don’t worry a subtle breeze will hit Sam in training camp and break his arm and then he won’t be able to carry his own jock

  49. Keep doubting this guy, it’s nothing new to him, he’s been overcoming that his whole life. Can’t wait to see what he can do with Jimmy Graham.

    Oh, and for those 49er fans, just remember: Shhhh, quiet on offense, SUPER LOUD on defense, and when you hear the foghorn start celebrating because your team just scored, hahahahaha, you guys should really just shut up about other fan bases, seriously.

  50. I actually am starting to hear a bit of panic and a whole lot of envy in the words being written by some of the other NFL Team’s Fans……….

  51. Through his first threw seasons in the NFL Wilson is the GOAT.

    There’s no arguing it. Look at the numbers.

    In addition to W’s, look at his QB stats. The Bradys and Mannings didn’t have a 100 QBR season until year 6, 7 or 8. Wilson has done it first 2 of three years and throw in his rushing yards and it’s 3 of 3.

    Get used to it.

    Hawks have been the best team in the NFL since PC took over an old, sub .500 team and has dominated since RW arrived.

    Now Beast is going to blow up when defenses start clearing the box to cover JG.

  52. nbaq49 says:
    Welcome to cap hell seachickens
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    Um, not really. They’ve got $44 million in cap space for next year, and by doing Wilson’s contract this way his cap hit will probably be $15 million at most.
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    lgw91s says:
    This will change their salary cap situation significantly going forward.
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    Not really. See Above.
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    crik911 says:
    This is impossible for them to overcome, they will lose some talent and perhaps slip in the power rankings. Look at what happened to the Ravens after they gave Joe all that money.
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    The Ravens had an incompetently managed cap in a stagnant cap era. The Seahawks have a brilliantly managed cap in a era when it grows by $10 million a year. Keep dreaming though.

  53. Why is a fully guaranteed contract such a gamble? If it helps keep your cap hit down and the owner is a multi-billionaire so what? It is well worth the risk.

    A bigger risk is trying to find a QB capable of leading your team to a SB win. Look at the top QBs in the draft this year – THAT’s a gamble!

  54. Russell Wilson will get paid well and he’s a good QB, but that last play in the SB might be the worst play in SB history. Will be interesting to see if the Seahawks recover from it. But their window might have slammed shut with that play.

    As for the Luck lovers, seems that Deflatgate scandal was good for one thing. It buried how awful Andrew Luck played in that game.

  55. I think its funny how everybody thinks seaatle will be horrible after he signs he’s deal. Seattle core players are alredy signed for multiple tears. The rest we will fill in the draft.

    And Russel wilson is one of the best QBs in the nfl. His stats dont show it because we run the ball alot and our oline is horrible at pass blocking. We know what we got in russel wilson.

    Oh and all you 9er fans who think most of our fans are band wagon fans. Except for the pacific north west there all 9er fans who cant stand the garbage fire of a team that is the 49ers. Have fun sucking.

    #Go hawks
    #The rivalry is over

  56. commenter says:
    The beginning of the end.
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    Or not. Unless Wilson gets hurt they’ll be in the Super Bowl again this year. And probably several more times in his career. They have $44 million in cap space next year.
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    birdman6162 says:
    Look what happened to the Falcons 3 years ago…. We hi the cap had to bust up the team and we go from knocking off the Seachickens and missing the SB by one play against SFO…..we had more wins in 3 years than anybody and sunk to the bottom last 3 years ….. Welcome Seattle
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    You know nothing about how the salary cap works. I’m sorry your team mismanaged theirs. Enjoy watching the Seahawks in the Super Bowl over and over for years to come.
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    ftblfan9 says:
    Patriots fan, but very impressed with how good Wilson is. Glad Seattle can now try to compete with a $10-$15 million QB cap hit. He is well worth it though.
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    yeah, pretty easy when you’ve got $44 million cap space even with all your best players pretty much already locked up.

    I know you all hope that Seahawks will have to break up their team because of the salary cap, but it just isn’t going to happen. They have managed their cap brilliantly, better than any other team, and the cap is in a major growth era. You better pin your hopes on something else because the Seahawks are going to be at the top of the league competing and winning Super Bowls for at least the next 5 years. It will be easier if you just accept that rather than hoping for a cap miracle that’s not going to happen.

  57. ravenswhat says:
    Mar 21, 2015 7:40 AM
    Luck wouldn’t miss on that 1 yard slant. I’ll tell you that much.

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    Luck throws his INTs much earlier in the game.

  58. Just want to thank all the salary cap experts and arm chair GMs out there. You know, with the cap increasing by about 10 mil each season, how will Seattle ever find Superbowl caliber players for this team? Oh that’s right, they’re already full of quality players. See you all in the playoffs.

  59. “The jury is still out on his overall passing skills”? Someone didn’t look at his passer rating, comp % and TD/INT ratio over his first three years. Take the running out of it and you still have a top 5-10 passing performer in NFL history, over a starting QBs first three years.

    Some of these assumptions are so lazy. Get NFL ticket so you can actually watch him sometime.

  60. ….”— especially since some would say the jury is still out on his overall passing skills.”

    Only the clueless, Wilson has the highest passer rating in history in his first 3 seasons.

    With 1252 regular season attempts, Wilson ranks #2 all time, (just behind Aaron Rogers), in the post season, he ranks #5 all time, at 97.8.

    The Seahawks don’t ask him to pass a lot, but Wilson is very effective when passing.

  61. The way Seattle has their core groups contracts set up, Wilson’s contract can only make their future cap situation worse.

    Seeing as Seattle has limited cap space for this season, Wilson’s money will be pushed into the future. His cap numbers are going to be huge in future years.

    Best part of what is gong to happen (Wilson being overpaid) is that the fans think Wilson is elite and deserves elite player money. They want Wilson to be paid a ton of cash. The Seattle fan doesn’t consider the cap in their frothy support of Wilson. Some Seattle fans think their team can stay good while paying half a dozen guys 2/3rds of the cap. I can’t wait to see Seattle fans reactions when the Seahawks have to cut some high priced, but skilled guys to get under the cap.

    If Seattle doesn’t win it all this season, be prepared to wait a long time until your team is relevant again. Will take a decade to recover from he cap problems. Maybe even longer, look at the Redskins and Raiders.

  62. purplepride11 says:
    Mar 21, 2015 9:59 AM
    Give a mediocre qb elite qb money! Good job.

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    Yes, we’ve all witnessed the elite QBs being churned out by the Vikes over the years.

    Ironically RW is always compared to probably the Vikings best QB ever Fran Tarkenton. To bad Fran never won a SB with the great defenses he played with for a large part of his career……sad really.

  63. People here are so dumb. It’s not even really up to Seattle to determine how much he’s going to make. If they don’t make him a huge offer, there are be teams lining up around the block to snatch him up in free agency. I know he has a great team, but he’s already been to the SB twice, winning once. He’s never had less than 10 wins in a season. Dual threat QB who’s only getting better at making use of his arms and legs. He’s had at least a 2:1 TD:Int ratio in ever year he’s played. He’s never shown up on an injury report. Seattle HAS to pay him this big because other teams will and then they’d be stuck with at Jax, BJ Daniels or a new draft pick at QB next year. Their hand is forced.

  64. Statistically Wilson does not have strong chart numbers but if there was an intelligence chart he would be on top. This would include topping Harvard Grad Fitzpatrick, who I have seen do bonehead throws. In know because I am a Bill’s Fan.

  65. Simple contract structure.. 500k for every Td, plus $100k for every win, $500k for every playoff win, and $1 million for every super bowl.

    If the Seahawks are successful with him, he’s a very wealthy man. If they’re not, they are not tied down by his cap number.

    This would prove that Russell is in fact a team player.

  66. shlort says:
    The way Seattle has their core groups contracts set up, Wilson’s contract can only make their future cap situation worse.
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    Any time you sign a player for more money, it makes your cap worse. In other news, the Earth gets hotter in the summer.

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    Seeing as Seattle has limited cap space for this season, Wilson’s money will be pushed into the future. His cap numbers are going to be huge in future years.
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    1st year hit will probably be only $7-9 million. We have $14 million left and several candidates for restructure/extension. $44 million in cap space in 2016. Wilson’s cap hit will probably be on about $15 million on average. That’s why the deal is structured this way.
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    Best part of what is gong to happen (Wilson being overpaid) is that the fans think Wilson is elite and deserves elite player money. They want Wilson to be paid a ton of cash.
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    Let’s see, 2 Super Bowls in 1st 3 years, 1 Super Bowl win, most playoff wins of any team since he became QB, most wins in NFL since he became QB, highest passer rating of any QB in his first 3 years, 84 TD passes (more than tom Brady). Um, yeah, I’d say Wilson is elite. Only the clueless would doubt it.
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    The Seattle fan doesn’t consider the cap in their frothy support of Wilson. Some Seattle fans think their team can stay good while paying half a dozen guys 2/3rds of the cap. I can’t wait to see Seattle fans reactions when the Seahawks have to cut some high priced, but skilled guys to get under the cap.
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    Kinda hard to see that happening with $44 million in cap space for 2015 and $70 million in 2016, but knock yourself out hoping for it while your team gets crushed under the tires of our “bandwagon.”
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    If Seattle doesn’t win it all this season, be prepared to wait a long time until your team is relevant again. Will take a decade to recover from he cap problems. Maybe even longer, look at the Redskins and Raiders.
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    No, the Seahawks are well positioned to compete for Super Bowls for the next 3-5 years, easily. Once Wilson is done all their best players will be signed long term with plenty of space to do things like trade for the best tight end in football.

    Every time you post in here all you demonstrate is your lack of knowledge of how the cap works in general and the Seahawks cap specifically. Enjoy watching us in the Super Bowl again and again.

  67. You’re comparing RG3 to Wilson? Have you had the chance to compare their playing styles? RG is a kamikaze on the field while Wilson is amazing at avoiding contact.

  68. I’m going to hold opinion/judgement until the contract is inked and we can see the $$ and the guaranteed $$$. I don’t think this management team is stupid.

  69. I love all these Seahawk haters who think Wilson isn’t a great QB. You obviously don’t watch him play, or know his commitment and dedication to the game and the team.
    He was very close to leading his team to the Super Bowl in his first year, if not for a great Falcon comeback.
    He has led his team to 2 straight Super Bowls.
    His qbr is among the leaders over the last 3 years.
    His ypa is one of the best in the league, and if not for WR’s who aren’t the best at getting open, his comp % would be much higher.
    And speaking of WRs, he hasn’t had a wr1 or te1 at any point in his career.
    His passing precision is fantastic, and it has to be with WRs who don’t get separation.
    Sure, he doesn’t have to pass much, but that’s not how fault. But, if you’ve seen him in the handful of games where Seattle has fallen behind early, he has led them back to victories with his arm.
    Just keep on hating…he’s going to prove a lot of people wrong.

  70. Why shouldn’t he get paid? Every other winning team has a high priced QB. Even some non- winning teams have high priced QBs.

  71. I don’t really care who the player is – Wilson, Manning, whomever. What I do care about is GAURANTEED CONTRACTS. It will destroy the NFL as we know it. Player agents will be demanding guaranteed contracts. Teams will be upside down on deals which could affect it’s ability to operate effectively season to season because of the HARD CAP.
    It’s BAD BUSINESS.

  72. This will begin the end of the dominant Seattle defense as they will be up against the cap and the defensive players will go for paydays. The fact that the defense gives Wilson leads, short fields, and points will be more obvious when he has everything on his shoulders. So much for a dynasty. Enjoy the road down.

  73. spot on truedirk! Couldn’t of said it better myself:

    truedirk says:
    Mar 21, 2015 8:12 AM
    I love how fans of other teams try to educate Hawks fans on Wilson, because you know… they’ve watched every single game Wilson has played for the Seahawks and know what he brings to the team… they must think that Lynch would run as he does for any other team if he didn’t have Wilson as a duel threat. They must think the defense is throwing TDs and long balls. No other QB in this league would be able to do as much as he does behind a very mediocre pass blocking OL.

    I have absolutely no worries that Wilson will always find a way to produce and will be worthy of the contract. I hope it’s friendly in therms of the cap hit and so having a larger guarantee is a good idea. Wilson has always been harping about winning, so I think the contract will reflect that he didn’t go for the highest amount of money possible.

  74. The Hawks were absurdly lucky this past year. Their top competitors in the NFC, all had major QB injuries; Cardinals, Rams, Packers, Cowboys, Eagles. That’s not going to happen again next year.

    The Packers were beating their brains out and just choked as bad as any team I’ve ever seen. Hawks were lucky to make it to the SB, and they’re not getting any better.

    RW will start losing steps, and will start getting injured. It always happens to these running QBs. Then it’s going to be all over, because he can’t throw from the pocket.

  75. “Then it’s going to be all over, because he can’t throw from the pocket.”

    2 NFCC games, 2 game winning TDs, both thrown from the pocket…. You should put down the fantasy football stuff and start watching real games, you’ll be amazed at what football really is.

  76. Haters. At least our team has been in the Super Bowl 3 times in the past 10 years, twice in two. Favored to go back. I’m proud of my Hawks. All you can come up with is 1 yard line jokes. At least the Hawks were there, where was your team?

  77. varangia says:
    Mar 21, 2015 12:50 PM

    “RW will start losing steps, and will start getting injured. It always happens to these running QBs. Then it’s going to be all over, because he can’t throw from the pocket.”

    You do realize Wilson is not a run 1st QB right? Or that he has a higher passer rating in the pocket than on the outside? Hmm I seem to recall some play where Wilson threw some pass from the pocket and some “mediocre” receiver named Kearse caught it for a touchdown. They won some sort of conference championship or something?

    And are you seriously still beating the soft schedule drum?? Injuries are a part of the game and the Hawks dealt with just as many as any other team. When the schedules were originally released last spring Seattle had like the 6th most difficult strength of schedule. Is it there fault that all those other teams didn’t end up being as tough of competition as they should’ve been??

  78. Can’t throw from the pocket? What? You should actually watch the young man play, don’t just regurgitate Pete Prisco garbage.

  79. “This will begin the end of the dominant Seattle defense as they will be up against the cap and the defensive players will go for paydays.”

    Trouble with this theory is most have already had their paydays. Bennett, Sherman, Chancellor, and Thomas are all under contract until 2017. KJ Wright and Cliff Avril signed extensions before the end of this past season. The only real loose end right now is Bobby Wagner, and with $44 million in cap space for 2016, there’s more than enough to pay him. Expect his new contract to be announced a few weeks after Wilson is taken care of.

    Throw in Cary Williams to replace Maxwell, and that’s 8 of 11 players, including the heart and soul and the leadership of the defense, who are under contract for some time.

    Then calculate that due to other teams signing away talent in free agency that Seattle will have up to 8 more picks in the draft over the next two season, including a likely third-rounder in 2016 for losing Maxwell this year.

    The defense isn’t going anywhere…especially with young talent like Jordan Hill (5.5 sacks in six starts) returning from injury to a larger role on the team next year, and up to 11 draft picks with which to restock and add depth and competition in camp. You will find yourself hoping that your own team is able to sign the guys we have to get rid of because there’s not enough available roster space.

  80. I can hear Seattle fans singing now, “Goodbye yellow brick road.” Enjoy the era of mediocrity.

  81. Wilson was #12 in QBR in 2014, and that was with an overwhelming lead in the Run part of the equation. Once he loses those steps, as Vick, Brunell and others did, he will be #20 in QBR, and no more rings. It’s just common sense, no great analysis required.

    He’s had the best or 2nd best Coach, best RB in the league, best TE last year, best defense, compared to the 85 Bears. I’m telling you, the guy is slightly above average, he can’t single-handedly carry a team like a Luck, Brady or Rodgers can to the playoffs.

  82. Go for it Seattle , by next season you’ll be cutting marquee players , lose free agents , and have to make trades to be under your salary cap !
    Go ahead and give your choker midget qb that big contract . Your defense will bolt away to play for Quinn in Atlanta slow but surely they will walk and Seattle will still only have 1 super bowl championship …… One & Done

  83. Russell haters abound!!!!! You are all so full of hate. We are so glad to have him and have him QB our Hawks for many years!

    Suck it up haters!!! He is ours!

    Go Hawks!

  84. Glad to see the Hawks have the haters full attention yet again. Prepare for total domination. This is only the beginning. GO HAWKS

  85. I still want to hear from these Seattle fans who still think their brain trust is so brilliant with drafting and other personal moves explain the contract they gave Matt Flynn. $26 million! Yes, they knew Wilson was their franchise QB and they were so much smarter then everyone else… Give it a rest! The funny thing will be is when their defense is no longer elite and their jerkish running back is retired and I will laugh at all these fools who think he is a great QB when he doesn’t have the talent around him.. Good Luck. Enjoy it folks! Kapernick is still a better athlete and has more upside.. Shut up haters! He led his team to the superbowl. Better then you could ask for from most qbs.. Loser!

  86. Russell Wilson has been successful, and more, at every level he has ever played. HS, college, pro’s. he has an excellent football mind, and I’ve seldom ever seen him look flustered or out of control on the field.

    People call him a game manager as if that’s ALL he is. He does manage the game; very well, in fact. News flash: ALL QB’s manage the game. It’s kind of their job.

    Wilson plays smart. He’s already very good at reading defenses, and takes what they give him. If they don’t give him anything, he’ll bootleg it and scramble for awhile, or throw it away and try something else on the next play.

    I predict the team will give him fully guaranteed contract for something like $15 mil, in the 5-6 year range. That will be a manageable cap hit, and as the cap goes up each year, it leaves them more money each year to pay for other talent.

    The gamble on their part, of course, is if he gets hurt. But he is built like a bull, and has an affinity for running smart and getting rid of the ball or sliding before getting hammered.

    To those that hate the Seahawks already, all I can advise is that you pace yourselves. It’s going to be a long decade.

  87. Amusing how many clowns keep repeating the same salary cap meme’s even though it’s already been proven false. As to Mr. Wilson, let me ask you this:

    Russell Wilson is one of only 3 players in NFL history to throw for 50 TD passes his first 2 seasons. The other 2 were Peyton Manning and Dan Marino.

    Peyton Manning and Dan Marino. Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers are not in that group.

    After his 3rd season and 2nd Super Bowl appearance, Russell Wilson now has 84 touchdown passes for his career, more than Tom Brady.

    Tom Brady.

    So my question to you doubters is… how many of those touchdown passes did Marshawn Lynch or the defense throw?

  88. Please chickens sign him to a $500 mil/2 year deal.

    Oh, and I think Marshawn is still waiting for the hand off at the 1 yard line. Just waiting for the ball to be snapped.

  89. It’s amazing how many people say “it makes no sense to me to pay a QB all that money.” Completely effing clueless. QB is the marquis position and it is the single biggest factor in your team winning. You can split all that money up among other players and you will still have a losing team without a great QB.

    Anyone who disagrees should analyze the state of the Browns, Jets, Bills, Tampa Bay, Houston, and even a few other teams. Hell, even a decent QB can take your team a long way. Once you have a proven winner at QB you’d be a moron as a GM not to lock him up. Almost as big a moron as the people saying it shouldn’t be done.

  90. calicokiller49 says:
    Mar 21, 2015 7:29 AM
    wilsons good, but he aint half as good as seahawks fans think he is. guy plays hard though. and he can shoot from the hip , probably better than most. but hes on an insane roster, whos on an insane run. be interseting to see how he fares once beast mode and that great team chemistry theyve had going tje last few years fades…..as a niner fan, i hope im right.
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    LOL !! That’s hilarious calicokiller49, No team could possibly self-destruct as fast the 49’ers starting with drop-kicking your head coach. (the rest is purely poetic) The key to Russell Wilson is the man plays within his limitations and takes what the defense gives him. You mention Beast-mode and the probability of what Russell will do when the Beast is gone. Hell, i think they reload knowing damn well he’s not coming back but Russell will simply do what he always does, “pick his spots” to run or throw. As long as Coach Carroll leaves the play calling to his offensive coordinator (and not get too cute) we will be fine. The USC-Hawks are the future !!!!

  91. nfliferfan22 says:
    Mar 21, 2015 2:24 PM
    I still want to hear from these Seattle fans who still think their brain trust is so brilliant with drafting and other personal moves explain the contract they gave Matt Flynn. $26 million! Yes, they knew Wilson was their franchise QB and they were so much smarter then everyone else… Give it a rest! The funny thing will be is when their defense is no longer elite and their jerkish running back is retired and I will laugh at all these fools who think he is a great QB when he doesn’t have the talent around him.. Good Luck. Enjoy it folks! Kapernick is still a better athlete and has more upside.. Shut up haters! He led his team to the superbowl. Better then you could ask for from most qbs.. Loser!

    ______

    Hilarious a santa clara niner fan dogging on the Seahawks front office and owner for paying Matt Flynn 10 million guaranteed to come in an compete for the starting QB position with Travis Jackson who was making nothing at the time.

    When the Seahawks signed Matt Flynn, Russell Wilson wasn’t even a member of the Seahawks organization. So how did the Seahawks know Russell Wilson was going to be their franchise QB before they even drafted him, in the 3rd round??? I’m confused……

    Explain why the 9ers front office signed Kaperchoke to a 100+ million $$ contract with no rings to show for it and then essentially fire their head coach after going to 3 straight NFC title games. Its been 3 years now and the 9er fans are still waiting for that “upside” to finally kick in for Kap.

    If your going to wait for the Seahawks defense to fall from the elite category your going to be waiting at least 4 year. Good luck with that hate.

    Now 9er fan22 go back out side pull up a chair and watch the dumpster fire that is in full bloom down there in santa clara forty niner land.

  92. Lot of Russell Wilson hate on here today and in reality all you haters would be doing back flips if your team had the chance to sign a QB of Russell’s quality to a long term deal.

  93. I forgot to mention, if you remove the Run portion of the QBR, Wilson is #18 in 2014. But go ahead guys, keep cherry picking stats.

  94. Bet against the Seahawks at your own peril. It’s REALLY humorous to listen to the Seahawks-haters, just DESPERATELY hoping that the salary cap can stop the Seahawks. There is a reason that the day AFTER Super Bowl 49, Vegas already had the Seahawks FAVORED to win Super Bowl 50: That reason is that EVERYBODY knows that the Seahawks only missed out on winning a second Super Bowl in a row on a fluke coaching error, AND that such an error will never happen again. The Seahawks and the Seahawks management are not a stupid team: All of the same smart football strategy which has helped them become the most dominate team in football today (again, only lost on a fluke and everybody including Vegas knows it), the same smart strategy will be reflected in how the Seahawks handle Russell Wilson’s contract. There will be no “salary cap hell” in Seattle as one commenter said, no the Seahawks will continue to do all things football better than everyone else (and go to a third Super Bowl in a row, and win a second out of three in 2015-2016.)

  95. Wilson IS a mediocre QB; stats are proof. He runs around all the time because he can’t see over the O-Line. Elite QB’s do something that shorty-russ can’t: throw from the pocket. Does RW make everyone on the team around him better? NO. He can’t. He would have to be a pocket presence and deliver throws on routes from the pocket, which he can’t (because of his vertical limitations) – last time I watched, anyway, hahaha. You think that Graham is going to make Russ look better? LOL. Percy was supposed to do that…

    Russ is a fun story, but that 2013 season was a gift from the stripes.

  96. varangia says:
    Mar 21, 2015 3:24 PM
    I forgot to mention, if you remove the Run portion of the QBR, Wilson is #18 in 2014. But go ahead guys, keep cherry picking stats.
    **************************
    One play by the Falcons & Seahawks defense from being in 3 straight Super Bowls, is a fact. That’s cherry-picking for ya!

  97. Stats are proof?

    First QB in NFL history to have a QB rating > 100 his first two years and if you throw in his runs, first three.

    Here’s your sign.

  98. It makes zero sense for the Seahawks to address the contract until his current contract expires. Same with Carolina, Indy, etc, any of these teams with a QB on a new cba rookie deal.

  99. Every team in the NFL except maybe two would trade their starting QB for RW tomorrow if offered.

    NE, Denver, NO? Yes, yes, yes. They are in their sunset years and would kill to have RW to win for the next decade plus.

    The only two who may not? GB – Rodgers is really good AND has tread left.

    Indy because they don’t care about wins (witness Megahead and now Unluck)

  100. Seattle will continue to work outside the box…instead of being a me to franchise in the NFL…they have done that with the bulk of their low cost show me FA signings that evolved into a fair contract…not a Suh backbreaker but…ie…Bennett and Avril…

    Seattle also front loads their contracts…so dead money is still not on the books 2 years plus later…it’s the using restructured contracts as a high interest credit card…that keep draining the cap…and gives less options in trading or cutting a player 2 years plus out…pay as you go instead of gambling on the what if’s of tomorrow in a injury prone profession.

    Seattle has rewarded draft picks that have evolved into first rate pro bowl caliber players with contracts that reflect that…Sherman, Thomas, Wright, and soon to add to that list Wagner and Wilson…that adds to their core and longevity of team makeup more often seen in the era of no cap and pre-FA.

    Seattle made some bad choices with Flynn and Harvin…but made those choices when most of their players were low cost minimizing cap chaos …even PC and JS are willing to admit their mistakes and move on…another reason why Seattle has been in the playoffs the last 3 years…and haven’t put all their eggs and future competitiveness in one basket….they cut their losses.

    Seattle has made some quality trades as well….. Lynch ( a 4th and 5th round pick to Buffalo in 2010) and now Graham (also got a 4th from the Saints in 2015) for a 1st (31) and Max Unger…a great player for Seattle…but injured a lot the last two years (9 games missed in 2014)…they also let Carpenter walk as a FA for the same reason (13 games in 2014 most in his 4 years of being mostly injured)…

    Seattle has not been able to keep guys healthy on their offensive line the last two years…so they decided to rebuild before the last horse is out of the Barn…Okung at LT contract is up next year…Seattle already has a a young UFA who was picked up last year they like and will get some adds in the draft…not to mention their utility man Bailey (also a UFA), Drafting Britt (2nd) last year…and Sweezy who was a 7th rounder who will be resigned next year as part of that new look…Seattle will pick up more lineman this year…where most draft evaluators say that in rounds 2-5 there is still good value for lineman in 2015…and still have a chance to add some lower cost vet options between now and cutdown.

    Seattle has 8 picks in those rounds due to compensatory picks due to lost FA last year (they will have a total of 11 picks this year)…more of the same will happen in 2016 with Seattle losing 6 players this year to FA (and adding one, DT Rubin from the Browns)…none of which will cripple the team…last year they lost 8 and still returned to the SB.
    There is no comparison to the Baltimore collapse after the 2012 super bowl season (I saw comparison earlier in the comments) and the way Seattle does business…apples and oranges

    Seattle unlike many other NFL teams who are #1st round pick happy as a cure all or magic bullet…find their talent for the most part by getting as many picks as they can with lower round talent and salaries. These picks are much more financially solvent initially as well as through the contracts maturity…good cap management…and this is really important…players that fit their team style and personality…other teams may see little or moderate value in these types of players..no one was crazy about Maxwell, Johnson, Tate, Wright, Sherman or Wilson for that matter…how times have changed…Look at the teams like St Louis, Jacksonville, The Browns…who have had some years of multiple first rounders since 2011…1st rounders aren’t always the answer…many of Seattle adds like Baldwin, Kearse, Bailey, Helfet, Lewis, Coyle, Morgan, Burley and Mathews (CFL) are all former UFA’s still on the roster…probably for awhile….another cost saving move in mining talent….again good cap management.

    Seattle has turned over from 18-25 players each year on their 53 roster since 2012…looking for the new add, finding new depth…some of these players have moved on in FA…some are constituting Seattle next generation of depth…Lane, Hill, Willson, KPL, Daniels and Simon.

    Finally, Seattle has had some excellent coaches…taking talent for the most part that most think don’t fall in the “elite” category…and making them solid performers as a team. PC has always held to the philosophy of his staff to move up and succeed…even with the losses for Bradley, Quinn, Norton and a few others that went to Atlanta, Oakland and Jacksonville…Seattle has some really good talent in place…the new DC Richards, Seto, Travis Jones DL (hand picked by Quinn last year), Cable, Schneider (ST) are first rate…the new additions at LB and offensive assistants have sound resumes as well.

    Proactive management, unique talent mining / development and creative cap management is why signing Wilson isn’t going to limit Seattle’s ability to compete…this year or the next couple…always by design…never by accident.

  101. Seattle is a good team but their time has ended. They could get back to the playoffs but it will end there. They should be careful to overpay for Russell Wilson who is a good qb but far from elite.

    I actually rooted for Seattle but they choked at the goal line or just maybe Bill Belicheat had spygate cameras set up and knew exactly what seattle was calling. Their not called the NE Cheaters for nothing.

  102. I also don’t think RW’s contract is going to wipe out the team, although it will degrade it. Couple that with the inevitable injuries and short shelf life of a running QB, and it means you probably will not see another SB win from the Hawks. It was a good run, but now other teams will step up and take them out.

  103. RK PLAYER 2014 PASS RUN TOTAL QBR
    1 Tony Romo, DAL 86.2 +3.3 82.7
    2 Aaron Rodgers, GB 91.9 +11.7 82.6
    3 Peyton Manning, DEN 91.3 -3.3 77.2
    4 Tom Brady, NE 81.6 +3.6 74.3
    5 Ben RoethlisbergerPIT 91.8 -2.1 72.5
    6 Drew Brees, NO 89.7 +2.4 71.6
    7 Eli Manning, NYG 84.4 +1.8 70.9
    8 Joe Flacco, BAL 65.5 -0.9 67.3
    9 Matt Ryan, ATL 81.6 +2.9 67.0
    10 Philip Rivers, SD 81.0 -0.1 66.8
    11 Andrew Luck, IND 63.7 +8.5 63.8
    12 Russell Wilson, SEA 48.0 +31.8 62.4
    13 Nick Foles, PHI 31.0 +1.8 62.2
    14 Ryan Tannehill, MIA 72.9 +3.7 59.1
    15 Mark Sanchez, PHI 38.0 -0.3 58.2

    Here is the QBR, and as I said, RW would be much further down without his running game. My guess is he will start slowing down next year.

  104. i’ve been suggesting teams guarantee a higher percentage of QB salaries in exchange for a reduction in the average salary per year which seems exactly what the seahawks are going to do

    the million dollar question is how much of a discount are you willing to give for a contract thats fully guaranteed?

    i think if they signed him to a 6 year 90 million dollar contract fully guaranteed then it makes sense, once you start guaranteeing salaries in excess of 15M per season you might as well just sign him for 20M a season with only half guaranteed

  105. Say what you want about the guy, but he does win games and leads his team without distractions.

  106. I see the mouths of the NW are back after their choke job in the SB!! “we’re going to dominate” “beast mode” ” In pete we trust” It was a nice vacation from their pie holes, now it’s over…:(

  107. “He’s had the best or 2nd best Coach, best RB in the league, best TE last year, best defense…”

    Best TE? Do you mean Zach Miller or Luke Willson? Because Miller was on IR by week six, and Willson, while I’m a Hawk fan and I love the guy, the “best”? He’s not even top ten, still puts too many passes on the ground.

    Throw in the fact his pass protection ranked among the league’s worst, largely due to multiple injuries constantly shuffling the line. He took snaps from four different centers last year.

  108. billsjunky says:
    Mar 21, 2015 3:32 PM

    New England” got lucky ” gronk is a rock head, good luck after football.

    ———————————————————————–

    1. So, by putting ‘got lucky’ in quotations, you’re implying that it was not luck, but in fact skill and execution that won New England the Super Bowl, correct?

    2. Gronkowski is the best TE in the league. Not even debatable. I don’t need him to be a member of MENSA for that, or even to be able to do my taxes. He’s a football player and a great one to watch help us win–good enough for me.

  109. NEWSFLASH:
    University of Phoenix Stadium
    On Saturday, March 21, 3015, 5:51pm PST, it has been reported that Marshawn Lynch is seen at the 4 yard line on his stance, getting ready to take the hand-off from Russell Wilson, to finish off an excellent 2014-2015 season. More on this next week.

  110. It doesn’t matter if they have 60 million in cap space. If they can’t find a back to replace Lynch, Wilson won’t be as revered as he currently is.

    Let us not forget that the reason they got to the Super Bowl was Lynch, and not Wilson.

    As for supposed 44 million in cap space they have next year, let’s go ahead and allocate 18 million(being generous that he takes a team friendly deal) to Wilson and 10 million to Wagner. That takes out 28 million leaving them with 16 million in cap space to sign rookie contracts and only have 42 players under contract for that year.

    You have players like Okung, Kearse, Irvin, and Mebane being UFA. Not saying you won’t have a great team, just saying that the 44 million won’t go as far as most envision. It’s highly unlikely you can keep Wagner, Wilson, Okung, Irvin, Kearse, and Mebane. Yes these guys like winning, but they also like money. Don’t forget that you don’t have anyone to currently occupy the CB role opposite Sherman. Lane shows promise, but he also broke his arm and tore his ACL.

    Again, not saying you won’t have a great team, just that there are far too many variables for you to say you’re competing for Super Bowls for the next 5 to 7 years. You have no idea if the LOB will be intact in 3.

  111. They got to the SB because of TEAM play, not any ONE plaYER. But I’ll play along for a sec. Who won us the NFCCG? You know, the game which SENT us to our second Super Bowl in a row? Was it Lynch? Or was it WILSON’S outstanding OT throw to Kearse? From the POCKET, no less? Reading the defense, and then striking the fatal blow like the ELITE ones do? Exactly. (Remember, I said LIKE).
    As far as next offseason, Mebane may be a cap causality THIS offseason, that’s why we picked up Rubin. Okung is not going to get reupped for big money unless he can make it through a whole season without missing games, AND plays at the Pro Bowl level he’s played at in the past. Irvin will get extended, more than likely, and without having to break the bank to do it. They already tendered Kearse THIS offseason.
    5-7 year window for Super Bowls? I don’t see that either, but 3-4? Yep. And that’s FINE with this Seahawks fan!

  112. Love the comments by the ignorant masses who haven’t been watching John Schneider for the last 5 years. IIRC, last year we were going to lose Earl and/or Sherm and/or Bennett and/or Avril and/or…well, you get the idea. You can’t hold on to the idea, so you’ll be trolling again soon, but you get it for right now…

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