Bengals owner remains high on Andy Dalton

AP

Bengals owner Mike Brown still has faith in Andy Dalton and believes he is “a good quarterback.” That’s despite Dalton’s mediocre career 7.0 yards per attempt average, 0-4 playoff record, and 1:6 postseason touchdown-to-interception ratio.

“You go round and about and Andy is perceived higher by some people than he seems to be all the time locally,” Brown told the Cincinnati Enquirer. “He is the style of guy who can function best when he has a good group around him. He needs that. Maybe he needs it more than some, but they all need it. There is no quarterback that goes out and has success without good players in the mix.”

The Bengals have just that. A good group of players around Dalton. It will be a big boost to get all three of A.J. Green, Marvin Jones, and Tyler Eifert back to full health after the trio missed 34 combined regular-season games in 2014. Add them to Jeremy Hill, Giovani Bernard, and Mohamed Sanu, in addition to a solid offensive line, and Dalton has one of the better supporting casts in the league.

Brown signed off on a “seven-year, $97.09 million” contract extension for Dalton last summer, but he has no more guaranteed money left on the deal. The Bengals are committed to Dalton for 2015 and have no plans to add a veteran backup. They’ll give second-year quarterback A.J. McCarron every opportunity to win the No. 2 job. If Dalton can’t get the Bengals over the hump with a playoff win this year, Brown and coach Marvin Lewis may be singing a different tune this time next year.

48 responses to “Bengals owner remains high on Andy Dalton

  1. Andy is an average to above average QB and I bet half the league would want him starting on their team. Can he be upgraded? Sure but until their is a viable option that is actually an upgrade he needs to stay the starter. The heart of the Bengals lies in the defense if they are ever going to win a Super Bowl with this group it starts there.

  2. If you’re still living in denial, then you stay the course. and keep defending him.

    I think it’s beyond clear that Dalton isn’t tough enough upstairs to get the job done, and he has a weak arm to boot.

  3. The goal of every team every season is to win the Super Bowl.

    One team is the winners and the other 31 are losers, but no team should be happy to make the playoffs, or have a winning record.

    Either you win the Super Bowl, or you lose. With Andy Dalton, you are not going to win the Super Bowl.

  4. There are a few things to think about with regards to The Bengals and Andy Dalton. Andy is an average to above average QB. 10 teams would take him in a heartbeat. 4-5 others would consider it. The truth is that there’s no viable alternative and they would take a step back without Dalton. The problem I see is that The Bengals are fine with an average qb and even if an opportunity to upgrade presented itself, they wouldn’t pull the trigger because they believe Dalton can get them over the hump, which he cannot.

  5. Call me crazy, but I think that if you put AJ Green on Tom Brady’s team, he’s immediately the best receiver Tom has had since Moss, but you don’t hear people says he needs better players around him to make deep playoff runs.

  6. Well he’s obviously high on something. Especially if he thinks Andy Dalton will win anything significant this year. Andy Dalton doesn’t have the mental strength to win a big game. He completely collapses during those games. Unfortunately, there is probably no better option at this point. Let him play his last guaranteed year on his contract. If he does the same that he’s done the last 4 years, cut him loose and start from scratch at QB. Unfortunately though, Brown is perfectly ok with making it to the playoffs and nothing else. That’s a success for him. I don’t think his goals include going to the Super Bowl. They just want to keep fans’ hopes alive by barely making it. That way they can keep touting that we’ve been in the playoffs for so many years out of so many years and how “successful” the team has been. And the Cincinnati media will help him sell that as well.

  7. Headline should read:

    “Bengals Owner Remains High on Andy Dalton because Bengals Owner Remains High”

    Simply the only explanation for seeing any sort of potential in a quarterback as awful as Dalton. Surrounded by offensive talent and a potent defense, he singlehandedly destroys the Bengals’ season year in and year out. Quarterbacks always take too much blame and get too much credit but in Andy Dalton’s case, he deserves all of the blame. Ownership being patient with the Lewis-Dalton regime is due to what you see around the league with continuity and stability yielding positive results and championships but this is one of the rare cases where the glaring deficiency with the head coach and quarterback is holding back an otherwise great team.

  8. The problem isn’t Dalton. If Mike Brown would get him a true #2 recv’r, and a #3 wr, TE, LT, LG, C, RG, RT, FB, RB, a top 5 D, and game-breaking special teams play, dude would be a SB contender every year.

  9. ajgreenhof says: Mar 23, 2015 10:09 AM

    Andy is an average to above average QB and I bet half the league would want him starting on their team. Can he be upgraded? Sure but until their is a viable option that is actually an upgrade he needs to stay the starter. The heart of the Bengals lies in the defense if they are ever going to win a Super Bowl with this group it starts there.

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    Agreed. I’m a Browns fan, so I don’t care what the Bengals do, but to all those calling for Dalton to be axed – who will replace him? 3/4 of the teams in the league need a reliable starting QB. They’re hard to find.

    You can’t just dump your imperfect-but-decent QB and just pick another up in front of Home Depot.

    Dalton has a lot to overcome, but losing in the first round of the playoffs every year is a problem a lot of teams would gladly have.

  10. Bringing up Tom Btady in this post is really ridiculous. He is an all time great. As mentiomed above, tell me who can they replace him with? He actually played well in the playoff game this year without Green, Jones, Eifert, and Gresham. But theres no mistake the clock is ticking on his future with the team. McCarron isnt ready, this year.

  11. “You go round and about and Andy is perceived higher by some people than he seems to be all the time locally.”

    It’s like this sentence was put into Swahili and then back into English through Google Translate.

  12. How about upgrading the #2 wide receiver position?!?

    Pseudo-#2 wr Marvin Jones = 8 starts in three seasons

    Pseudo-#2 wr Mohamed Sanu = 2nd in NFL in dropped passes

    Now… let me call out this current example of the Cincinnati Enquirer lobbing softball questions to cheap mike brown.

  13. Dalton is like the guy who has no problem getting a date to the prom and then the girl ditches him for another guy.

  14. even if deep down he knows Dalton can’t do it, there’s nothing good that can come out of dissing your quarterback; especially when no better alternatives are currently available.

  15. he’s high on him because he’s essentially a reflection of himself.

    Think about it, Dalton is seen as (and most likely is) one man who holds back the team from being great.

    Truly.

    You give those weapons to any other QB in this league and they’ll do exactly what Dalton can, or better. ANY. Even Hoyer, McCown or EJ manuel. They’ll post the same type of numbers. But give them to a QB either elite or on the cusp of it and they’ll give you a super bowl. Bottom line.

    Brown holds this team back with his inability to part with any money for coaches/players/scouting and Dalton holds it back on the field with his inability to play the position.

  16. therealtrenches says: Mar 23, 2015 10:37 AM

    Call me crazy, but I think that if you put AJ Green on Tom Brady’s team, he’s immediately the best receiver Tom has had since Moss, but you don’t hear people says he needs better players around him to make deep playoff runs.
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    Well, yeah. TB is arguably the best that ever played. The SB win just cemented his legacy as one of the greatest of the greats. You can say the first three were due to defense and kicking, but TB threw the ball over the field on Seattle and has EARNED his credit (from a guy that hates NE!).

    Andy Dalton on the other hand is trying to finally put a string of first downs together in a playoff game. Big, big difference in these guys!!!

  17. Meanwhile, Bengals fans have high hopes under the leadership of Mike Brown and Marvin Lewis.

    Just look at all those AFC Playoff participation ribbons they’ve collected.

  18. Andy Dalton is average and probably won’t lead his team to the super bowl.
    But whats the alternative?
    Trade up for a #1 pick (Winston?) and hope he’s a lot better?
    1 – at what cost two #1 picks and two #2, plus more?
    2 – who would they draft that would be a top 10 QB? Winston?

    What it comes down to is:

    – would you rather have Andy Dalton, plus use all the draft picks you would trade away for good players on your team.

    OR

    – trade all those picks for Winston and hope he’s a very good QB? What happens if he’s no better than Dalton? What if he’s worse?

    It seems to me that Dalton is good enough and it’s far too costly and risky to trade up to go hunting for a franchise QB.
    You win a super bowl with a good team. Having an above average (but not great) QB on a so-so team (because you traded away so many picks) wont win you a super bowl.

  19. This is exactly what Bengals fans want to hear, Mike.

    Please don’t be surprised when you can’t sell out a single game next year.

    What’s the definition of crazy? Something about doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?

  20. Andy Dalton will probably never be a HOF QB. It is also unlikely that he will climb to the ranks of the “Elite” QBs in the league. He is good enough for a franchise QB though. Think of all the teams that are struggling with career backup QBs or just washouts. He should be compared to Matt Ryan. he piles up stats in garbage time and against hapless opponents but struggles against good defenses and in the playoffs. Without the fine receivers that the Bengals have, he would be ranked even lower than he is now. Many times the QB makes the receivers look good. In Dalton’s case, it is the reverse.

  21. Somewhere out there is a QB who isn’t all that great, but is mentally tough. He has a chance to bring a team with a good defense to the playoffs and win a game, two, three or four.

    One thing’s for sure though, Dalton can’t.

    See the difference?

  22. Bengals owner remains high…

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    If he thinks Dalton is anything more than a bridesmaid.

  23. 61.6% completion rate
    99 TD
    66 INT
    85.2 Quarterback Rating

    60.5% Completion Rate
    148 TD
    90 INT
    84.8 Quarterback Rating

    Guess which of those is Andy Dalton, who everyone agrees is terrible, and which is Joe Flacco, one of the highest paid quarterbacks in the game.

    Of course ownership is sticking with Dalton. Not only is he more than serviceable at the position, but he has also taken a franchise that was wallowing in mediocrity since the days of Boomer Esiason to the playoffs four out of four seasons.

  24. steelerben says:
    Mar 23, 2015 12:36 PM
    61.6% completion rate
    99 TD
    66 INT
    85.2 Quarterback Rating

    60.5% Completion Rate
    148 TD
    90 INT
    84.8 Quarterback Rating

    Guess which of those is Andy Dalton, who everyone agrees is terrible, and which is Joe Flacco, one of the highest paid quarterbacks in the game.

    Of course ownership is sticking with Dalton. Not only is he more than serviceable at the position, but he has also taken a franchise that was wallowing in mediocrity since the days of Boomer Esiason to the playoffs four out of four seasons.

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    The difference is, Flacco was good enough to not choke during that playoff run and Super Bowl. Dalton will NEVER be able to mentally handle the playoffs and the Super Bowl. Grab Dalton’s stats from post-season and compare them to regular season and that’s all you’ll have to look at. It’s not his inability as a QB, it’s his mental toughness that hurts him. He just can’t handle it mentally.

  25. Did any one hear his pre game speech before the playoff game? Sad…so…so sad …. Ned Flanders would have fired up the team more that.

  26. Believe me, no matter what he says now the Bengals have the option of walking away from Dalton’s contract at the end of the 2015 season, and I believe they will if he doesn’t improve. Words are one thing. Money is another. That being said, you cherry picked your statistics to fit your article. His regular season numbers have been good, and he has averaged 10 wins a year since he became the starting QB.

  27. Nobody’s saying Andy Dalton is an “elite” QB. But there is a lot to be said for making it to the dance four years in a row, when a recent Superbowl winner resides in the same division.

  28. He’s a good qb but good qb’s don’t win you Super Bowls great qb’s win you SB’s. Look at the last decade who has won SB’s. Brady, Wilson, Flacco (the playoff Flacco is great, regular season Joe not so much), Eli, Rodgers, Brees, Roethlisberger, Eli, Peyton, Roethlisberger, Brady. If my math is correct that’s 8 out of the 32 current starting qbs in the league that have won a SB.

    These guy just don’t grow on trees. Dalton is not a SB winning qb with what he’s shown the last 4 years, but you can do a lot worse than him. That being said if the Bengals ever want to win one Dalton will either have to get significantly better or they’re going to have to try out a new guy. If Dalton does not get it done this year, there may be a change. His arm is not the issue, if you watched their games last year he overthrew receivers a lot. The offense was pretty banged up, outside of AJ there really was not a legit threat in the receiving game. Sanu stepped up for awhile, but he was also 2nd in drops in the league. Gresham was inconsistent, has issues securing the ball and commits quite a bit of penalties. I think Eifert being injured really put a damper on the passing game, he was looking great against Baltimore before he got injured.

    The guy has just got to get more consistent, he’s shown he can be really great or really really bad. He makes too many stupid plays and has got to get his accuracy better or else it will not get any better for this team.

  29. bonniebengal says:
    Mar 23, 2015 5:05 PM
    Believe me, no matter what he says now the Bengals have the option of walking away from Dalton’s contract at the end of the 2015 season, and I believe they will if he doesn’t improve. Words are one thing. Money is another. That being said, you cherry picked your statistics to fit your article. His regular season numbers have been good, and he has averaged 10 wins a year since he became the starting QB.
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    We are talking about Mike Brown here. He’s perfectly ok with “just good enough”. Because then they can write letters to season ticket holders saying “hey look how great we did again! playoffs 4 years in a row! Now buy our tickets again because we are great!”. That’s all he cares about. He doesn’t care about going to the Super Bowl. He cares about money and he gets money by keeping hopes alive. Lots of homers around this town who blast you if you talk down about Andy and Marvin because they drank the kool-aid Mike is selling.

  30. Dalton beat the Broncos last season at home on Monday night in the rain.

    Also, NO ONE is saying he is Tom Brady so your stupid analogies mean jack squat.

    He’s an average QB, we get it. Most of the time the play calling is a much bigger issue than Andy’s playing though.

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