Lovie Smith hints the Bucs are open to trading down

AP

Some years, the team with the top overall pick in the draft is so enamored with a franchise quarterback that it never talks much about the possibility of picking anyone else. When the Colts drafted Andrew Luck, for instance, it was obvious for months in advance that that’s what they were planning to do, and the team never said otherwise.

The Bucs aren’t taking quite the same approach this year. Although most people think they’ll take Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston, and that if they don’t they’ll go for Oregon quarterback Marcus Mariota instead, Bucs coach Lovie Smith told NFL Network his team might surprise people.

“I can see why people would assume we’re gonna take a quarterback,” Smith said. “There are two excellent quarterbacks that are available at the top and when you get a chance to draft someone like that, most of the time, people do. But there are other good players in the draft also. I think it’s a deep draft for defensive line. Like last year, there are a lot of great receivers that are coming out. I think, just overall, the amount of athletes coming into each incoming class, it’s pretty deep for players that can make an immediate impact.”

By making those comments publicly, Smith is signaling to other teams that if they’re interested in trading up, they should call Tampa Bay and make an offer. And that’s a smart thing to do: It’s always good to find out what you could get in a trade.

Whether the Bucs would actually pull the trigger on a trade remains to be seen. Passing up on a potential franchise quarterback is a tough decision to justify. But it’s a decision the Bucs will consider, if Smith is to be believed.

103 responses to “Lovie Smith hints the Bucs are open to trading down

  1. sounds like he wants to pull a Jimmy Johnson and get a boatload of pics for the #1, can’t blame him. there are lots of teams that need QBs.

  2. Its a smart move for the Bucs to be willing to have everything on the table. What ever is best for the team. If they feel Winston or Mariota is their best move, then that is what they need to do. If they think a trade package for the top spot will net them more than what they will get by making the pick, they need to do that. Especially if they dont absolutely love one of the QBs.

  3. The New York Jets are willing to offer $300 million in cash and six Cromartie’s kids

  4. thewizardofbs says:
    Mar 23, 2015 10:41 AM
    sounds like he wants to pull a Jimmy Johnson and get a boatload of pics for the #1, can’t blame him. there are lots of teams that need QBs.
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    But none that will give up a boatload of picks for Winston.

  5. Maybe Lovie is really saying that he knows there’s not a potential franchise quarterback in this years class and hopes another team thinks there is.

  6. The Colts situation of intentionally tanking the season to get Luck was a complete farce and is why the NFL needs to change the draft order. Take the average of the last 3 years record and the lowest average drafts first. No more suck for Luck type of seasons which makes a mockery of the game.

    In short, Irsay is scum.

  7. I can see why Tampa might want to trade down. Putting your trust – and the future of your franchise and your own job – in the hands of Crab Legs Winston is playing with fire. If you can trade down and pair Williams with McCoy, look out.

  8. So the Bucs want to trade down? And their QB will be…?

    I don’t think Glennon has been really given a fair shot so far, but they’ve kind of ruined it with the kid at this point by treating him like unwanted leftovers last year.

  9. Anyone else roll their eyes when someone suggests…just trade down! Well, you need to find someone dumb enough to move up in a weak draft.

  10. Well, Lovie, you can go ahead and follow in the Tony Dungy/Bill Cowher/Jeff Fisher footsteps of building a defense and completely ignoring the offense (which you’ve done a great job of in your career, to your credit), but you won’t be getting another job after this one if it doesn’t work out.

  11. whatnojets says:
    Mar 23, 2015 10:43 AM

    The New York Jets are willing to offer $300 million in cash and six Cromartie’s kids

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    Anyone else have a secret wish that most of Cromartie’s kids are boys and in 15 years, there are like 10 cromarties in the NFL?

  12. Smith doesn’t want to draft a true franchise quarterback because he wouldn’t know what to do with one. Year after year in Chicago he traded out of the first round and put the same old third rate quarterbacks on the field.

  13. Chip trades Bradford for one of their #1s to Cleveland. Chip gives the Bucs both #1s, Fletcher Cox, and 2016, 2017 #1s and either another player or another later round draft pick. That gives the Bucs 4 #1s and a defensive lineman that will be a pro bowl player for yrs to come. If Mariota ends up being what Chip says. He’s worth it. If not. Then we gave another person other then Santa Clause it Jimmy Johnson we can throw snowballs at. Either way, the Bucs win. They can get a WR AND a QB in this yrs draft.

  14. “Hello, Lovie? It’s your old team, the Bears calling…remember when you gave up 2 first round picks for Cutler? Well, we’re having a 50% off all QB’s sale, you can have him for just ONE first round pick.”

  15. Chip trades Bradford for one of their #1s to Cleveland. Chip gives the Bucs both #1s, Fletcher Cox, and 2016, 2017 #1s and either another player or another later round draft pick. That gives the Bucs 4 #1s and a defensive lineman that will be a pro bowl player for yrs to come. If Mariota ends up being what Chip says. He’s worth it. If not. Then we gave another person other then Santa Clause it Jimmy Johnson we can throw snowballs at. Either way, the Bucs win. They can get a WR AND a QB in this yrs draft. They won’t get a better offer

  16. Neither Mariota nor Winston are once in a life time players… They are only the best of a weak QB class coming out… Both have an uphill climb and a lot to overcome if you look at NFL history on Hiesman trophy winners and success of the #1 pick….. The Bucs need more players than they need to settle for either of these guys…

  17. I don’t think he’s necessarily suggesting that a team wants to trade up to take a QB or that he wants to trade down to not take a QB. If he can get a team to trade up and take Williams and he only moves down a few spots he can collect a few extra picks and still have a shot at one of the top 2 QBs.

  18. perhaps he’s referring to his second rounder?

    sometimes it blows having the top pick in a terrible draft.

  19. granadafan says: Mar 23, 2015 10:52 AM

    The Colts situation of intentionally tanking the season to get Luck was a complete farce and is why the NFL needs to change the draft order. Take the average of the last 3 years record and the lowest average drafts first. No more suck for Luck type of seasons which makes a mockery of the game.

    In short, Irsay is scum.
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    I’m not a Colts fan, but this is not accurate.

    The Colts spent $4M to lure Kerry Collins out of retirement.

    Laugh all you want at Collins, but the Colts wouldn’t have signed him if they were trying to tank. No owner will throw $4M away for no reason.

    They had Curtis Painter. He was capable of losing every game on his own, with or without Collins.

    I think everyone knows how bad those Colts teams really were in Manning’s last few years. Manning held those teams together and got them to the playoffs, which was quite a feat considering the talent.

    But when he got hurt, that team was exposed for what they really were…an AWFUL team.

    That’s why Manning got MVP votes without playing a single snap.

  20. vontae21 says:
    Mar 23, 2015 10:39 AM
    Thank god we got Luck #coltsnation
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    There was no divine intervention involved. Indy “sucked for Luck” more than any other team.

  21. Even if Winston is the second coming of Andrew Luck, the Bucs would still ” Suck With Luck”. Their roster is deep nowhere and deficient almost everywhere. They need 25 new players on the team . If they can swing a deal to acquire extra high value picks, it may be in the best long term interest of the franchise.

  22. Whatever the worst, most disastrous decision possible – THAT’S the one the Bucs and Lovie will make. Bet your house, your truck, the wife and kids on it.

  23. Lovie Smith does not believe in the concept of building a team around a franchise QB. That should be obvious by now.

    He sees all those stud defensive linemen and he just can’t help himself. It just chafes a guy with his background to “waste” a high pick on a guy that plays on the offensive side of the ball.

    And yes, I know they took a WR #1 last year, but you darn sure know they wouldn’t have if Clowney or Mack were still on the board.

    That’s why he and Rex Ryan will retire from the league with the exact same amount of Super Bowl rings as a head coach.

  24. Apparently, nobody wants there pick. So he’s trying to generate interest….hilarious!

  25. Bryce Petty supposedly had a great Pro Day and Mariota’s was mediocre, Winston has character issues, Maybe he see’s this as a way to get a few more picks and draft Bryce Petty

  26. As a bears fan I hate to see the Lovie hate considering he will go down as one of the greatest bears coaches of all time. He had an AWFUL GM in Jerry Angelo and still almost took the bears to two Super Bowls. Hell, if the bears didn’t lose some key defensive players in ’06 maybe he is still there. Lovie has purged the buccaneers of all players that didn’t fit the cover 2 system, and there were a lot of them. He’s trying to do what Lovie does, and that’s build disciplined defenses that fit a team system and will keep you in any game. Lovie got a lot of wins off just defense and he’s never had the offensive talent around him like he will in Tampa when they have Winston/Jackson/Evans. I think he will have this team at the cusp of a winning season this year and by year 3 a playoff contender.

  27. Every team always claim that they were open to moving down. But they never do, it hasn’t happened since the Chargers did it.

  28. the cover 2 system sucks and lovie didnt evolve like th rest of the league…this dunce spent a year in his basement with tedford planning to win a crappy nfc south and tedford gets sicka nd lovie has no response, lovie doesnt take over the offense he gives it to some inept tedford flunkee……take lovie back to chi-town

  29. Sam Bradford to the Bucs along with swapping #1’s this year and a #1 next year so Chip Kelly has a shot at either Winston or Mariotta. Put it in your minds.

  30. dusthtyrhothdes says:
    Mar 23, 2015 11:49 AM
    the cover 2 system sucks and lovie didnt evolve like th rest of the league…this dunce spent a year in his basement with tedford planning to win a crappy nfc south and tedford gets sicka nd lovie has no response, lovie doesnt take over the offense he gives it to some inept tedford flunkee……take lovie back to chi-town
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    Seemed to work fine for marinelli in Dallas last season

  31. Trade down and get a QB in round 2. Get the best O Line and D Line they can get with the new picks.

    The teams that win seem always have solid line play. Always. Nothing else matters without those.

  32. A QB that has just had all his shenanigans validated by being chosen #1 is not who you build a team around. TB would be very wise to trade out of the #!, even if they don’r get anything like other teams have gotten. A #1 and maybe #3 and #4 would be a boon to this struggling franchise. Winston is a crapshoot and Mariota is RGIII II.

  33. Trade down and get more picks and spend the first pick on an offensive lineman. We just signed a few Cowboys in free agency and Lovie lnows you need a line like Dallas to take that next step. Give Glennon a line and he will show the Bucs franchise a success.

  34. Lovie Smith is a hack who’s coaching on borrowed time. Not many coaches are luck/bad enoughlead their team to the 1st overall pick and end up with the privilege of exercising their choice with it.

  35. I can’t think of one successful QB that had the kind of off field incidents in college that Winston has had.

    Sure, Vick and Roethlisberger both struggled badly at times in the NFL, but they managed to keep pretty clean images coming into the NFL.

    There is no precedent for Winston to be successful. Doesn’t mean he won’t be, but it’s a massive risk.

  36. GOOD MOVE!! Trade out of the pick, get more picks and perhaps a player, use the deal to fix the most glaring issue on the team, the offensive line!! Tom Brady would have been 2-14 behind that line. Glennon is an NFL ready QB (which no draft pick is) and he just needs a serviceable line so he’s not A) running for his life every play, B) getting pummeled. A decent line would also help our stud RB’s. Fixing the line fixes a lot more than just the line!

  37. As soon as you hear … a team may trade down … you know it’s not going to happen.

  38. I’d be surprised if another team offered enough to make it worth the Bucs while. You don’t want to drop down outside the top ten and miss on the great d line/rush linebacker options. I think only a team with a top 10 pick is really going to have a chance to put a package together, but no team is giving up three number ones for one of these quarterbacks.

  39. Is Lovie giving next years #1 up too? It’s the only way he is trading out of the the #1

  40. There you go Chip, go get him. We all know you’re the worst liar in the league, now you have a shot at a Herschel Walker type trade for your mediocre Marriotta to qb your mediocre team.

  41. Why would anyone listen to the guy who tried to sell us that Glennon and Josh McClown were the answer? This is just clickbait.

    Jets are interested … in Mariota. Look for Jets to make a trade with Oakland. Oakland will still have the pick of the best receivers at 6.

  42. Tannehill and a 1st for Jamies Winston.

    Tampa gets a Future QB, Miami gets an upgrade at QB and won’t have to shell out a 100 million contract on Tanny

  43. Poor Winston and FSU fans. There’s only one coach dumb enough to take Winston # 1 and that is Lovie. If he doesn’t Winston will fall ala Rodgers to the 20s. He’s simply an average QB prospect at best. Add his behavior into the mix and he is undraftable to me. There is a zero chance of him ever being a SB winning QB. Zero. So why draft him at all? Maybe as a backup? Fine, then do it in the 5th or 6th.

  44. God dammit, I change the station every time in the car when I hear the name Mariotta, it was starting to die down a little bit but now this is gonna ramp it back up, ughhhh

  45. So they tanked but didn’t tank to get the number 1 overall only to trade it? Watch them trade it to the Eagles. I don’t know who the bigger fool is, Lovie or Chip. Oh well Bucs, I guess you could always not tank next year too.

  46. 1st overall pick and a 5th round pick for the Vikings 11th overall pick and Adrian Peterson?

  47. The Bucs have a lot of holes to fill, so it’s sensible that they would entertain offers that would net them more picks. It’s also sensible since none of this year’s QBs is a can’t-miss prospect like Luck, Rivers or the Mannings were.

    I’m just hoping that whatever they do with the pick, they screw it up. Anything to help the Panthers out.

  48. Trading that pick would be a career saving move for lovie, picking winston or mariota would be a career endeing move. Get our oline right and glennon can do the job.

  49. To the posters above who throw around that number one overall picks don’t get traded. Its because up until a couple yrs ago the #1 pick cost 60 million plus to sign. Since then only Luck was worthy of a blockbuster trade. The Colts were offered the farm, I’m sure. The rookie salary cap is the best New addition to the NFL since replay

  50. somethingcool82 says:
    Mar 23, 2015 11:42 AM
    As a bears fan I hate to see the Lovie hate considering he will go down as one of the greatest bears coaches of all time. He had an AWFUL GM in Jerry Angelo and still almost took the bears to two Super Bowls. Hell, if the bears didn’t lose some key defensive players in ’06 maybe he is still there.
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    Your defense of him actually kind of makes everyone else’s point. There’s a whole lot of “almost” to Lovie’s career. Just like there was a whole lot of “almost in Buddy Ryan’s career and there has been a whole lot of “almost’ in his son Rex’s as well.

    How many times does the lesson that you need a franchise QB to win a SB have to be drilled into your head. You can only bring up the Brian Billick Ravens so many times.

  51. Not something I’d like to see because I feel the top 2 qbs will be busts, but would the Browns offer their 2 no 1’s and Johnny Football for the pick? Personally I’d rather see the Browns add a WR and DL with the picks and get a franchise qb next year.

  52. Lovie Smith: Super Bowl 41 (Rex Grossman); NFC Conference Final 2011 (Jay Cutler).

  53. this really is a no win for lovie no matter how you look at it.
    if he takes marcus, everyone will be mad he didn’t take Winston, if he takes Winston, they want marcus, if he gets the best player in the draft and shows it on the field, the player will be compared to how marcus or Winston are doing. and if tampa doesn’t have a winning record, everyone will insist lovies gets fired.

    im glad I don’t work for the bucs.

  54. He’s probably just fishing knowing that people like Chip Kelly are out there and might be interested in trading up.

    The Buccaneers need a quarterback. Mike Glennon has the skillset to be a franchise quarterback, but Lovie didn’t give him the chance to develop in 2014.

    It really made no sense considering they were a 2-14 team and Josh McCown (who isn’t as good as Glennon) was the starter. Glennon gave them a better chance to win last year and in the future, but they kept going back to McCown even after the season was lost. That indicates they don’t view Glennon as the future, and therefore that they have to draft a quarterback 1st overall.

    If they don’t draft a quarterback 1st overall and decide to stick with Glennon, then they just wasted a year of his development.

  55. Winston may have had some troubles in the past, but he’s already been acknowledged as the best football mind to come along in years. Whoever gets him will have their franchise QB. I expect the Bucs to make the wrong decision again.

  56. Look Buc fans. Lets Face the music and keep it real. When you are 2-14, that means you sucked. It means a lot of..housecleaning in order. I do think Winston will be a good QB in the NFl. But….Our needs are many. We need 2 quality O linemen, a fierce pass rusher, and a host of other players more than a QB. Your best O linemen and that pass rusher is in the 1st and 2nd rds. And let me remind you all, this past yrs superbowl QB finalist were not drafted anywhere near the 1st rd. Brad Johnson was no Manning. But he did have one hellava Defense and Offensive line behind him. Glennon is by no means a savior. But he’s serviceable and will play well behind a good O line. We need to trade down and get those two 1st rders and whatever else a team is willing o give us for that 1st pick..that is IF..we want to win at least 60% of next years games.

  57. Doesn’t anybody else think that Mike Glennon can be a very good quarterback in this league? I wanted the Jets to draft him when they selected Geno. If the Bucs take either quarterback at the top of the draft I hope Maccagnan picks up the phone to at least inquire about his availability.

  58. I think the Bucs are most likely drafting a QB, but there is no harm in sending out a signal flare to see if some team sends them a proposal that yields them a bounty.

  59. Glad to see people getting on the Glennon bandwagon. Trade the pick, get the two best available o-linemen and go from there

  60. They really should trade the pick. What is wrong with what they have in Mike Glennon? He is only 25 and did more than ok when he was on the field.

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