Ravens, Bengals clean up on compensatory picks

AP

The annual collectors of compensatory picks are at it again.

The Ravens received three extra picks Monday, adding a pair of fourth-rounders and a fifth when the league finalized the draft order.

The Ravens have always drafted well, which keeps them from having to spend in free agency. Then when their guys leave for greener pastures, they rake in the extra picks to restock and start the process all over again.

Comp picks are awarded based on net free agency gains and losses from the previous year.

By avoiding unrestricted free agents (signing guys who were cut by teams doesn’t impact the formula), Ravens General Manager Ozzie Newsome is able to hoard the mid- to late-round picks the league doles out.

The other big winner was the Bengals, who gained an extra third and a fourth after losing defensive end Michael Johnson and tackle Anthony Collins as unrestricted free agents last year. Both were signed by the Bucs, both were cut after one year, and Johnson has since re-signed with the Bengals.

The Patriots and Chiefs also gained third-rounders.

The NFL announced the full list Monday night, at the conclusion of the day’s business at the owners meetings. Here’s a look at the full list, with round and overall pick number:

3-97, New England

3-98, Kansas City

3-99, Cincinnati

4-132,  San Francisco

4-133, Denver

4-134, Seattle

4-135, Cincinnati

4-136, Baltimore

5-169, Carolina

5-170, Seattle

5-171, Baltimore

5-172, Kansas City

5-173, Kansas City

5-174, Houston

5-175, Baltimore

6-208, Denver

6-209, Seattle

6-210, Green Bay

6-211, Houston

6-212, Green Bay

6-213, Carolina

6-214, Seattle

6-215, St. Louis

6-216, Houston

6-217, Kansas City

7-250, Denver

7-251, Denver

7-252, Pittsburgh

7-253, New England

7-254, San Francisco

7-255, Indianapolis

7-256, Arizona

75 responses to “Ravens, Bengals clean up on compensatory picks

  1. Why does this post have nothing to do with the fact the Chiefs got four picks, with one being in the third? Ravens and Bengals did well, but Ravens got three and Bengals got two…

  2. You say the Ravens got two fourths and a fifth but the chart shows a fourth and two fifths. Since you are the first to break this story I can’t find any more info as to if the list is correct

  3. Marvin used to work for the Ravens. Surely learned this system there. He drafts much like Ozzie.

  4. Goodell still sticking it to the Saints. BTW, the picks are for losses in the previous year. So the Pats will get some good ones next year.

  5. @ the technocrat funny how SB nation posted it before this site and both claim to fourths and the fifth for the ravens but their list also had a fourth and two fifths. Somebody took it from somebody. Shouldn’t be two fourths since most projections have them with a fourth, fifth and sixth. Weird how the ravens always get higher than projected, Steelers lower and everybody else correctly predicted.

  6. he Patriots lost Aqib Talib, Brandon Spikes, LeGarrette Blount and Dane Fletcher and signed Brandon Browner and Brandon LaFell last offseason.

  7. The Bills signed the Williams twins to decent/big contracts. Maybe that had something to do with it as well as Byrd stinking up NO

  8. Pats got a 3rd for Talib. Revis was released by Tampa Bay (so his signing doesn’t impact the compensation formula) and Browner was signed to a modest deal and was suspended the first 4 games. They also lost Legarrette Blount to Pittsburgh.

  9. This year’s compensatory picks are based on last year’s signings and losses…so who you signed and lost this offseason will be the basis for next year’s compensatory picks….

  10. “The Ravens have always drafted well”

    Except can’t draft a decent wide receiver to save their lives and probably need to hit on at least two starters out of this year’s draft.

  11. Bob Kraft gets a third round for his hard work on the NFL owners committee. You don’t have to lose a star player, you just have to be the owner of the New England Patriots.

  12. berniemadoffsides says:
    Mar 23, 2015 10:04 PM
    20 AFC picks, 12 NFC picks.
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    Gotta close the gap between the AFC and NFC somehow right?

  13. No pick for Jacoby Jones…..he was cut. But we do have a bunch of fours and fives if you throw in the 4th and 5th we got from the Lions for Haloti.

  14. Most of these comp picks will be wash outs. The only thing that matters in the league now is you have a good qb and there are a hand full of teams who don’t. Have fun with your comp picks for those teams who don’t have legit qbs.

  15. The Pats are well stocked for this year’s draft, and will be again in 2016 when the comp. picks are decided. They lost Revis, Browner, Wilfork, Vereen, Ayers and Casillas to multi year deals, with the minimum just over 2.5 mil. per year to Casillas. They have signed Sheard, Chandler, Fletcher, with the minimum being Fletcher at 2.5 mil. and a bunch of scrubs at 1 mil. or less. After the comparison between all of those contracts washes out, the Pats will again get a 2016 third rounder, mainly for Revis, They should then get at a minimum two more picks in the 4th, 5th or 6th rounds. The way Belichick drafts, he is set for this and next year’s draft already. He’ll find a gem or two with all those picks or could use the Pats own picks to trade up.

  16. KC and Seattle got 4 comp picks (max allowed)
    Den got 3, NE, Cin, Bal, SF, Car, Hou each got 2 with St. Louis,Pitt, Indy, AZ, and GB each getting 1…….

    Not sure how Raven and Bengals “clean up” here.

  17. You say the Ravens can’t draft a good WR I don’t see it as that they never even had a good enough QB until now Travis Taylor did good for the Vikes and Make Clayton did good for the Rans until he got hurt so maybe a decent QB will change that ….Torry Smith.

  18. I love this part of the NFL. The haters just get a lump in their throat when they see the Patriots and Ravens reload through the draft instead of paying a king’s ransom in free agency. These teams don’t win with “Luck” (by chance or by tanking a season). They win by preparing better on and off the field.

    Belichick’s mantra:

    Sun Tzu — ‘Every battle is won before it’s ever fought.’

  19. kissbillsrings…
    Pats have 5 picks in the first 101…SWEET!!!
    # 32,64,96,97,101….
    Go Pats!!!
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    Don’t forget pats will be awarded jets #2 (38) for tampering with Revis :)))

    Plus colts will lose their #1 pick this year for intentionally deflating pats ball after they intercepted it, therefore increasing pats (and 30 other teams) draft position by 1 spot :)))

    Lastly, Bill will trade 1st (#32) and 4th (#96) this year to Cardinals for 2nd (#56) this year and cardinals 1st rounder
    next year.

    So this year pats will have two #2’s, two #3’s and two #4’s…

    And next year they will have two #1’s, a #2, two #3’s and three #4’s based on their 2015 FA losses rewarding them more comp picks …

    All jokes aside, none of it matters if #12 not lining up under center :)))

  20. “Most of these comp picks will be wash outs. ”

    Depends on who does the picking and coaches them. Tom Brady was a 6th round compensatory pick (basically the top of the 7th round).

  21. As a Patriots fan, I’m curious to see what happens with this years draft due to a couple things still pending:
    1) the whole deflated football issue & how that may effect the Pats, jets,colts if at all
    2) the blatant tampering by the jets to get Revis from Pats
    Those 2 issues could effect picks on those 3 teams for sure… Not sure if picks could get swapped/lost or both….

  22. I’d be curious to know if Revis, Browner, and Wilfork factor in to the compensatory draft pick equation. I lean towards no, because they were under contract and the team opted not to pick up their option. Their contracts did not expire. But I don’t know for sure.

  23. Eastcostgambler.. You seem to have it all figured out.

    Except you seem to not realize that compensation picks are only awarded when teams fail to sign their own unrestricted free agents.

    Revis, wilfork, and Browner were all released with existing years left on their contracts.

    NO PICKS FOR YOU!

  24. I don’t believe the Patriots will get any comp picks for Revis, Browner and Wilfork because all of those players had contracts with the Patriots for 2015 and the Patriots declined those options, they aren’t true free agents that would count in the equation.

    Only players that are true free agents signed or lost count in the equation, no released players signed or lost. And the whole formula is based on the contract that the players sign, not their level of production.

  25. more proof that the NFL jobs the Raiders, they lost Lamar Houston and Jared Veldheer and got no compensation when all the pundits said how they were foundation players yet the Bengals get a 3rd for Michael Johnson who was subsequently cut and picked that back up for the Bengals too. I guess Mike Brown is in Goodell’s pockets these days.

  26. They should just call this “The Goodell friends and family plan.” There’s only one reason to keep the formula for deciding these picks secret. If you answered “So they can rig the game,” you win.

  27. They should do away with the compensatory picks … the team that signs the FA should lose their pick.
    Also if a team does not want to pay a player why should they be rewarded?

  28. Interesting, we don’t see the Jets, Bills or Dolphins on this list; nor will we see them on next year’s list.

  29. Funny how Goddell’s good buddy the cheater signs Revis & gets awarded the highest compensatory pick. Yep no favoritism here.
    Who said “cheaters never prosper”
    ****

  30. I don’t understand some of the hate on the Ravens for this … the are always at/near the cap, so when the decide not to resign players (either based on salary or play) then this is the result. AND – add to it that they have been one of the more successful franchises (in terms of making the playoffs). I don’t see how more teams don’t try to operate like that.

  31. Of course the Pats get the earliest comp pick. SMH. Conspiracy theory: Goodell is doing the best he can for his buddy Bobby Kraft to make up for any lost draft picks in the wake of the Patriots cheating scandal investigation findings.

  32. mrlaloosh says: Mar 23, 2015 9:47 PM

    Goodell still sticking it to the Saints. BTW, the picks are for losses in the previous year. So the Pats will get some good ones next year.
    They did not lose Revis & Browner. They cut them.

  33. vincentbojackson said:

    “The Ravens have always drafted well”

    Except can’t draft a decent wide receiver to save their lives and probably need to hit on at least two starters out of this year’s draft.

    ——————————————————————

    They hit on C.J. Mosley and Timmy Jernigan last year, and Brandon Williams and Rick Wagner the year before that, just to name a couple. But yes, their history of drafting wide receivers (aside from Torrey Smith) has been the one position they haven’t done well.

  34. This is a true testament that the Ravens coach up players better than any team around. They draft gems, develop them, win with them, lose them to free agency, get compensatory picks, rinse and repeat. OZ.

  35. What an absolutely ridiculous idea these comp picks are – fitting for an ever more ridiculous league. You stink at managing your cap and were forced to let good players walk, so here, have a few extra picks at other teams’ expenses. I’m really starting to dislike the peripherals of this game so much that my enjoyment of the game itself is suffering.

  36. grimreaper12 says:
    Mar 23, 2015 9:57 PM
    belichick is the greatest GM the league has ever seen and it’s not close. 6 SB’s and counting. nobody does it like the hoodie.
    =======================================
    He is a great coach and very good GM who has made his share of mistakes and he is repeating his fatal flaw, which is leaving the defensive backfield with holes. The Patriots won three rings with Ty Law and didn’t win another until they brought in Revis. They easily could have kept Law and he wasn’t one of those players whose skills were in decline. After that, he waited too long to get a deal done with Samuel. It’s certainly easy to look great when Tom Brady is your quarterback. I think Belichick has done an outstanding job and I don’t want to imply that he isn’t one of the best ever. It’s just that he’s made his share of mistakes and going nine years in Tom Brady’s prime without winning a Super Bowl shows that he’s made some.

  37. This doesn’t even include all the picks New England will be getting from the Jets for tampering with Revis and from the Colts for #FrameGate. Should be a good haul for the defending World Champs.

  38. The Ravens have ten total picks (1, 2, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6) with the 7th round being the only where they do not pick. Only their last 4s and the last 5 cannot be traded. Looking forward to the draft.

  39. It’s probably a ‘clean up’ based on the value of the pick. A 3rd and a 4th are substantial picks when compared to end of round 5th-7th round picks.

    Some of the Bengals best picks have come via the 4th round…

    Also, the trade value of a 3rd and 4th round pick in comparison to a 5th-7th is something to consider too.

  40. New England will probably be given the first overall pick next year for losing Revis. What a whacky “formula” they use for this. I mean, the Bengals got a 3rd and 4th for losing two guys that stunk so bad they got cut.

  41. Chiefs, Seahawks & Broncos all have four picks. So how did you determine that only the Bengals & Ravens were cleaning up on compensation?
    Texans also got three but apparently didn’t “clean up”?

  42. Ridiculous to get comp picks in the first place. If you cant hold on to your players because of over priced contracts or bad drafting thats your problem. This takes away from teams that suck by drafting players they need to make the league more competitive.

  43. The Patriots got an end of the 3rd round compensatory pick for Talib. They gave up a late fourth rounder to get him in a trade. not much gets by Belichick.

  44. Year in and year out Ozzie does better than just about anyone at this part, but this year three teams have more comp picks (4 versus 3) and one has just as many picks as the Ravens. It is surprising more teams haven’t followed his example.

    Also, at least nine teams have as many or more comp picks as the Bengals this year, so not sure why they are being singled out.

  45. “Broncs and chief got 4”

    Interesting given the high end free agents they signed but DeMarcus Ware was cut so he didn’t factor into the decision.

  46. Lost is the fact that the Seahawks got 4 extra picks: 4th, 5th and two more in the 6th round.

    Don’t forget, we found Kam Chancellor, Richard Sherman, KJ Wright among others in these rounds!

    Get ready NFL, John Schneider and co. are great in these rounds!

    Go Hawks!

  47. “They should do away with the compensatory picks … the team that signs the FA should lose their pick.
    Also if a team does not want to pay a player why should they be rewarded?”

    Bad ideas.

    1. It would limit the market for free agents and reduce a player’s ability to max his value

    2. It would reward franchises that can’t attract free agents

    3. It is called compensatory picks for a reason

  48. @cincinnati222

    Comp picks can’t be traded, so the value of your other (higher, as comp picks fall at the end of whatever round) picks would have to your ‘consideration’ angle there …

  49. @vincentbojackson

    Ever hear of Torrey Smith? Not an all-star but just got a fortune in Free Agency. Hated to see him go.

    Also, while not receivers, Todd Heap and Dennis Pitta did a nice job of catching the ball too, both drafted by Ravens. But, they have more than their share of failures at WR.

    My personal prediction: watch Michael Campanaro this year. He’s in the mold of Welker or Edelmann.

  50. dissed215 says: Mar 24, 2015 7:20 AM

    Of course the Pats get the earliest comp pick. SMH. Conspiracy theory: Goodell is doing the best he can for his buddy Bobby Kraft to make up for any lost draft picks in the wake of the Patriots cheating scandal investigation findings.

    ———-

    Yea losing one of the top free agents in Talib last year had nothing to do with it…

    Unbelievable how biased people are…

    Denver won that offseason though, remember that. You all thought NE was done for…

  51. The Raiders lost 2 players they drafted Houston and Veldheer who played a few years for them and got NOTHING.

    The Pats rent a player for a year and get a third???

  52. Congratulations Pats fans. All I’ve heard is what a weak draft class this is and you’ve managed to pick up 5 of the first 101 picks. Not to mention your QB will be 38 before the season starts. Tic tock Hoody’s on the clock.

  53. Revis ,Browner, Wilfork ,Vareen & a couple other free agents the Pats lost WILL count in the formula towards comp picks next year as will the Pats free agent pick ups count against the formula…. However Detroit will get the 1st 3rd round comp pick for losing ES… pats will Peobably get second 3rd for Revis & a couple more probably in 4-5th round area…. Over all I’m expecting 3 based on loss Vs. Gain….

  54. gofor2with3pointlead says: Mar 24, 2015 12:21 PM

    Congratulations Pats fans. All I’ve heard is what a weak draft class this is and you’ve managed to pick up 5 of the first 101 picks. Not to mention your QB will be 38 before the season starts. Tic tock Hoody’s on the clock.

    ———–

    Interesting analysis considering most people I see write about the 2015 draft say its pretty deep and theres lots of talent worthy of round 2-4. Im sure you know more than Belichick and the Pats though.

    I seem to see that “clock ticking” bit every year.

  55. Packers lose a starting center and a starting WR among others and get a couple of sixths?? Yep, more ammo for the “NFL favors GB” crowd.

  56. Yeah, yeah…we get it Pats fans, they lost Talib and that’s why the Patsies got a comp pick. Well, guess what geniuses? Every team that got comp picks was for the same reason. The only point I’m making is that the earliest one. Of course they did. Especially fortunate for them considering that they may lose draft picks because of cheating.

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