Seahawks were nervous about Greg Hardy, and his price tag

AP

The Seahawks were scared off by Greg Hardy’s legal history and his potential punishment from the league.

It was either that or the size of the contract Dallas was offering him.

Seahawks General Manager John Schneider said Hardy’s background was the biggest factor in their pursuit of the free agent defensive end not going any further.

Via, Bob Condotta of the Seattle Times, Schneider was asked if their reluctance was based on Hardy’s off-field situation.

“Absolutely, yeah,” Schneider said. “Yes. That was the primary thing.”

But unlike the Buccaneers, who swore they weren’t interested in Hardy at any price (which precisely no one in the league believes), Schneider admitted cost became a factor as well, when Hardy found someone willing to give him the potential to earn $13.1 million.

“It was like, you have the background,” Schneider said. “You are trying to get more and more background on it, the situation itself and then when we found out what his level of compensation was going to be it was pretty easy for us to just walk away from it.”

So they were interested. But not really. Especially when they found out he wouldn’t be cheap, like previous free agent pass-rusher additions.

Schneider also said he wasn’t sure where the reports about defensive end Michael Bennett wanting a trade came from.

“It’s my understanding that Michael is very happy in Seattle and loves playing there, so that’s really about all I can say about it,” he said. “He’s never asked to be traded.”

So there you have it. The Seahawks are set at defensive end. Especially at the current market rates.

43 responses to “Seahawks were nervous about Greg Hardy, and his price tag

  1. If they thought he would come in at a bargain basement price, they would have signed him.
    All this “off field” stuff is only for unproductive players, you bet Schneider would have signed Hardy if he had a chance.

  2. Is the Cowboy contract $13m? The reported cap hit is around $3m with a truly fascinating per game roster bonus scheme. How the cap calculation for this contract actually works seems to be anyone’s guess. It would be interesting to hear the NFLPA’s opinion on this super team-friendly, we’ll-pay-you-weekly-if-we-feel-like-it “contract” that protects the team and its cap status, hides behind the league and promises to be copied throughout the league to the detriment of player incomes.

  3. The Bennett trade rumor was started by Hardy’s agent…notice how the news was “broken” by a reporter from the Dallas market…in hopes of driving up the size of his contract.

    Rosenhaus played Dallas like a Stradivarius.

  4. So, no money for Hardy because the next wasted trade for Graham and the blowout cap-killer they are going to throw at RW… gotit.

    And: “We don’t know where the Bennett trade talk is coming from”

    means: We need more space to give RW the monster cap-killer and Bennett wants to go play for his coach that left (along with most of the D coaching staff).

    Anyone who realistically thinks the seaFrauds are making the playoffs is on some of that Seattle Purp.

  5. gurnblanstonreturns says:
    Mar 23, 2015 6:47 PM
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    The contract is 3 million as a base and workout bonus. He can make up to 13.1 with about roughly 500k per game, so we have to wait and see how many games he actually ends up playing.

    It’s funny how they speculate on his suspension but at the same time report his salary cap hit at the 16 game value in order to continue the headline of that 13.1 mill cap hit that increases page views and comments.

    You guys sure do know how to beat a dead horse. Why don’t we discuss the salary cap penalties from the lockout or the Redskins Rams trade again or Tebow.

  6. How the cap calculation for this contract actually works seems to be anyone’s guess.
    —————————-
    Actually, the rules are laid out pretty clearly. In a nutshell, if the bonuses are easy to meet, the cap hit is taken this year… if the bonuses are possible but not definite, then the cap hit is next year, as long as the bonuses are met/paid.

  7. what I don’t get is, Dallas didn’t have the cap space to sign both Dez and Murray…. but they now have the cap space for this? Hmmmm…. funny money?

  8. what I don’t get is, Dallas didn’t have the cap space to sign both Dez and Murray…. but they now have the cap space for this? Hmmmm…. funny money?

    ——————-

    Dallas didn’t give a crap about Murray. Jerry is partially right if he believes any mediocre running back can run through that offensive line.

  9. Except they aren’t set at DE. Lack of depth allowed Brady all kinds of time and hurt them badly in the Super Bowl.

    Bringing in Hardy would have been an extremely hard sell to a large portion of the Seattle fan base.

    But they need to sign or draft at least one more pass rusher.

  10. jshawaii22 says:
    Mar 23, 2015 7:03 PM

    what I don’t get is, Dallas didn’t have the cap space to sign both Dez and Murray…. but they now have the cap space for this? Hmmmm…. funny money?
    ——————————————-

    What I don’t get is that people have all the public knowledge in the world available to them with a few keystrokes, yet ask dumb questions.

    Yes. Jerry Jones has found a way to cheat the cap, and he’s not sharing it with anyone.
    Happy?

  11. Seattle should be more worried about their soon-to-be franchise QB playing awful in the biggest games. His completion percentages are DREADFUL in most post season games except for the Donkey Super Bowl.

    Wilson would cost them many games if not for that defense and Lynch

  12. @ trollhammer20

    Rosenhaus played Dallas like a Stradivarius”

    Uhhhh, tell me something – how is zero guaranteed $ getting played like a “Stradivarius”? Hardy’s contract is all about performing and if he performs, he will get paid. Dallas could cut him at any time and pay him nothing fro that day forward. That’s right – his contract has zero money guaranteed, yet he and Rosenhaus still agreed that he should sign it, and he did. Care to revise your statement?

    What happens to Hardy as far as league discipline is anybody’s guess, but he will likely be suspended. As far as the public opinion, Hardy’s reputation has taken a hit, and understandably so, especially after the Ray Rice incident. What is interesting, however, is that the prosecution decided to drop the case, especially since they don’t need the witness present to do this. THAT, to me, says quite a bit. It appears there was too much in the way of inconsistency with the female involved with the case.

    Seattle chose not to get involved because after that SB debacle, they didn’t need ANY more negativity coming their way. And regardless of Hardy’s guilt or innocence, his signing would have brought a lot more negative attention to the Seahawks. Who needs that after choking away the SB?

  13. People saying seattle would’ve taken Hardy despite the off the field issues, seattle is not like desperate Santa Clara harboring the scummiest of all scumbags simply because they’re above average. Say what you want about Sherman’s mouth but Hawk players are classier than most

  14. No one will come close to Seattle barring major injuries.

    You couldn’t stop Lynch with little passing threat.

    Wait until JG is lined wide and you send a LB and safety out there with him.

    LOL

    The class of the NFL.

  15. People who worry about Wilson are hilarious. Just check the numbers on the kid, they don’t lie. And don’t give me that running game/defense excuse. Seattle had Lynch and a defense in 2010 and 2011, both seasons 7-9. With Wilson in 2012 11-5 playoff trip, 2013 13-3 Super Bowl Champions, 2014 12-4 returned to the Super Bowl. So, although the defense is nasty, Lynch is the beast, Wilson is no slouch. Oh and if your going to talk about Seattles run game saving Wilson, he did rush for over 800 yards last season, just another fact.

  16. Seattle chose not to get involved because after that SB debacle, they didn’t need ANY more negativity coming their way.
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    Good point.

    Dallas doesn’t have to worry about SB performances, good or bad.

    In fact, one playoff win every five years or so means you’ve got no performances to worry about.

    SMH

  17. I love how everyone worries about the Cowboys cap situation, yet no other team’s cap is ever questioned. And you tell me the Cowboys aren’t Americas Team anymore…phfftthh.

  18. Wilson “rushed” for 800 yards… smh Wilson SCRAMBLED for 600 yards because he can’t see over the O line and ditches a clean pocket on a regular basis.

    call it like ya see it

  19. Yeah that Lynch fellow is a model citizen. Hey how about the ending of the superbowl? Was that classier than most too?

  20. Dallas has good young offensive line that as a group stayed healthy all year. There line is made out to be the second coming of the hogs which it isn’t close to being. Murrey smashed Emmit Smith’s one season rushing record playing with a line that wasn’t nearly as good as that one. Average backs ddon’t have 1,800 yard seasons unless you’re a starry eyed Cowboy fan drinking the Koolaid Aid with JJ.

  21. Ha ha ha read what he said…. Yes it was off the field issues that made our decision…..ha ha ha then it was the money was too high.,,,,, ha ha ha we already established what The transaction was they were just haggling over money……. To say it was anything else is a laugher ha ha ha

  22. Hardy won’t play the first half of the season I’m purdy sure. Any bets it will be less?

  23. Trophy case for 1 says:
    Mar 23, 2015 6:54 PM
    So, no money for Hardy because the next wasted trade for Graham and the blowout cap-killer they are going to throw at RW… gotit.

    And: “We don’t know where the Bennett trade talk is coming from”

    means: We need more space to give RW the monster cap-killer and Bennett wants to go play for his coach that left (along with most of the D coaching staff).

    Anyone who realistically thinks the seaFrauds are making the playoffs is on some of that Seattle Purp.
    **************************

    scmems07, you sound BITTER. Even with an alternate screen-name!

  24. The record shows you can’t trust Pete if he has the opportunity to cheat, but I am impressed with how he stood up about the whole SuperBowl playcalling issue, and now he’s found a player so low-rent that even he won’t touch.
    If Hardy had any conscience he’d be worried about this.

  25. Greg Hardy is a walking, talking waste of carbon. I’m glad my team didn’t sign him, no matter how talented he is as a player. Also (not that anyone cares) while I’m not a fan of either the ‘hawks or pats the only qb I’d rather have on my team than Russel Wilson is Tom Brady.

  26. Lmao goldrush how many 9er losses ended like the SB? I know like 90% of your fanbase, you stopped watching mid season when it was obvious they wouldn’t make the postseason, but I saw at least 4 games in this season alone that ended in scuffles due to the butthurt losers on your crappy squad

  27. Can we lose the “we’re so classy” garbage? Seriously, Seattle has had their own PED incidents and “classy” Pete Carroll left one of the best jobs in college football because the NCAA was getting ready to smack his program around and he lacked the guts to face the music.

  28. Seattle should be more worried about their soon-to-be franchise QB playing awful in the biggest games. His completion percentages are DREADFUL in most post season games except for the Donkey Super Bowl.
    =======================

    Ever hear that old saying about staying quiet and letting others believe you’re ignorant instead of talking out and removing all doubt?

    Wilson’s post season QBR 98.1.

    Brady’s first three years post season QBR 90.4.

    Mannings first three years posts season QBR 58.5

    Of course both for both Manning and Brady these were years 2-4, with RW 1-3; they had an extra year of experience.

    School is out.

  29. Step 1 – Article related to Seahawks come out

    Step 2 – All jealous trolls avoid topic at hand due to inability to comprehend what article is about and point finger at franchise QB they would kill for on their team due for big payday resulting in Seahawks downfall

    Step 3 – Seahawks wipe the floor with said trolls’ teams this upcoming season

  30. “Seattle should be more worried about their soon-to-be franchise QB playing awful in the biggest games. His completion percentages are DREADFUL in most post season games except for the Donkey Super Bowl.

    Wilson would cost them many games if not for that defense and Lynch”
    ——–
    Would this “Wilson” you continually refer to be Russell Wilson, the only QB in the history of the NFL to have the stats he has during his first 3 years at QB?

    Or, Russell Wilson, the ONLY QB with back to back SB appearances in over a decade?

    That “Wilson?”

    Hmmm….when was the last time YOUR team was in a SB much less 2 in a row? Crickets….right.

  31. @ wpghawksfan says:

    “Step 3 – Seahawks wipe the floor with said trolls’ teams this upcoming season”.

    you mean unless Carroll decides to utilize a broom (a pass) instead of choosing to use a mop (a run) to “wipe the floor with said trolls’ team”.

    Pipe down there, Orville. My team won 3 SB’s in 4 years, and your team is still 4 SB’s behind. Relax.

  32. @ winninaintsinnin says:

    Good point. Dallas doesn’t have to worry about SB performances, good or bad. In fact, one playoff win every five years or so means you’ve got no performances to worry about. SMH

    Awwwww. Look who is still chapped after his team choked it all away when they seemingly had it all in hand. The point is WINNING the SB, not choking it away. It is very convenient that you choose to attempt to keep score with “playoff wins” when it is SB wins that are the end-all be-all. But I can’t quite blame you, since SB WINS for your franchise is a meager 1 compared to 5 in favor of the Cowboys. Your legacy just doesn’t compare.

    Then there was also that beatdown in Seattle by Dallas earlier in the season that still probably has you a little rashy. You will eventually get over it, but it still appears that you and many other Hawk fans are still sleepless in Seattle over the choke job.

  33. Bennett/Hardy=Day/Night

    Michael was very supportive of HC/OCs final call in SB49 in the moments following the tough loss. He demonstrated an outstanding and mature team spirit. He is a great player and leader in the locker room for those not paying attention.

    We want more like him.

    Go Hawks!

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