Talk in Tennessee of Titans making a run at Rivers

AP

Trade rumors come and go all the time in the NFL. Sometimes the rumor is quickly denied and disappears. Sometimes the rumor comes to fruition. And then there’s the persistent rumor that the Chargers could trade quarterback Philip Rivers to the Titans for the second overall pick in the draft.

That rumor sounds farfetched, and yet it’s not going away. Today’s installment of the discussion comes from David Climer of the Tennesseean, who writes that the Titans are unlikely to use the second overall pick on either Jameis Winston or Marcus Mariota, but would like to add a quarterback. Among the dots being connected to lead to the conclusion that Rivers is in play:

Rivers isn’t signing a new contract with the Chargers, meaning his future with the team is uncertain. Rivers reportedly wouldn’t want to move to Los Angeles along with the Chargers if they leave for San Diego, and the Chargers may want a quarterback they can be sure is there for the long run, and not just for one more year.

The Chargers are interested in Mariota. San Diego has scheduled a workout for Mariota, which wouldn’t make a lot of sense if the Chargers weren’t considering trading up to get him. It’s unlikely that Mariota will be there for the Chargers with the 17th overall pick in the draft.

Rivers has a connection with Titans coach Ken Whisenhunt. Rivers said at the end of the 2013 season, when Whisenhunt was the Chargers’ offensive coordinator, that they had worked very well together and that Rivers had no doubt Whisenhunt would succeed in his next head-coaching stop.

The Titans have the cap space to take on Rivers’s contract this year. Tennessee currently has about $26 million in cap space, meaning it could take on Rivers’s $17 million cap hit for this year. Obviously, if the Titans were going to trade the No. 2 overall pick for Rivers, they’d want to work out a long-term contract extension with him. But they can take on his current contract now and worry about an extension later.

Add it all up, and the idea of the Titans making a run at Rivers, and the Chargers taking the No. 2 pick and drafting Mariota, doesn’t sound crazy. It’s an idea worth keeping an eye on as the draft approaches.

98 responses to “Talk in Tennessee of Titans making a run at Rivers

  1. Rivers is a really good QB, But he is also an older guy. Why would Tenn. Who has a ton of other holes going to trade for a guy who will probably be done by the time they are ready to compete ?? This makes no sense at all…. Tenn. Would be better off Drafting MAriota who should be about a year from his prime when the team is ready to compete…. If they do this trade, its nothing more than desperation that will fail…

  2. Well , it’ll either be Rivers , Cutler or Mariota , but Mariota may cost too much in terms of draft picks.

  3. I’d do it. Think about it:
    1. Rivers gets to go closer to where he’s from
    2. He still is or should be in his prime
    3. AFC South < AFC West, that division is trash with the colts winning every year so you have a better chance at the playoffs

    There's more but it would make sense, even for Mariota too cause his fam is from Hawaii so San Diego or LA ain't far at all.

  4. There needs to be more than Rivers coming Tennessees way. Rivers is a good Qb but even with Tomlinson couldn’t win.

  5. Or it could be two coaches that worked together in San Diego trying to generate interest for the 2nd overall pick since the Titans don’t really want it. I see no reason for the Chargers to dump Rivers. He’s playing out a contract and thinks he can do more this upcoming year than in the past year.

    After all, the Chargers were injury riddled at year’s end and the AFC seems weaker next year (see dumping of money by Patriots, Colts/Broncos getting older, and Ravens losing receivers to free agency). Rivers is all in just like Flacco was for his contract.

  6. If he does not want to move to LA, he has seven kids in school, what makes you think he would move to Nashville?

  7. As a Bolts fan I’d be doing backflips to unload an aging turnover machine for a 1st round pick!

    Never happen – Titans can’t be that stupid

  8. If this trade happens:

    “And with the #3 pick in the 2016 NFL draft, the Titans select QB ___________”

  9. Better check if he wants to move across the country first. If he doesn’t want to move 2 hours away to LA, not sure he wants to move to Tenesse.

  10. How many times do I have to say this, Williams at two and Petty at the top of the second. This is a building year, not a super bowl year.

  11. Rivers has the Chargers competing for the division title every year he’s a charger. Mariota would instantly become the worst starting QB in the division and have the Chargers competing for last place. Letting a bonified franchise QB go for a chance to play 1st rd QB roulette is career suicide for telesco. I don’t think he’s that dumb. There’s no Andrew luck or Russell Wilson in this draft, betting on being able to convince rivers to stay is the safest play if you care about winning.

  12. The Chargers would love to do this, but only if they know who they could get with the pick. If Tampa Bay is smart and Mariota is gone at one, the deal is dead.

  13. I am a Raiders fan. In pragmatic sense, I’d say that will be a bad idea for the Chargers to get rid of Rivers. However, go ahead. I’d love to say “good riddance” to him since we don’t have to put up with him twice a year.

  14. Titans will suck for a couple more years regardless. Bring in Rivers, and we hover around .500 til he retires, and we’re screwed again. And, Mettenberger never sees the field again.

  15. Rivers is a probably a top two QB at this stage with the decline of Peyton. Still, at 33 years old, I don’t see how he’s worth the number two pick.

  16. so everyone is crowning mariota, before he’s done anything at the pro level? awesome, i mean when was the last time a great college qb didnt work out in the pros? for the chargers I really think the saying a bird in the hand is better than 2 in the bush applies here. You know what you have and can get 3-4 years out of this guy, why risk it for some one who could be a total dud. Who knows he could be the second coming of Luck, or the second coming of RG3.

  17. His family is established in San Diego, which is why he doesn’t want to move. What makes anyone think he’d then decide to move across the country to Tennessee? He’s made 100s of millions in contract & endorsement income at this point. I wouldn’t be shocked if he just retired and lived in SD with his family.

  18. This should be a no-brainer for Tennessee. Rivers is top-ten franchise QB, and he’s only 33 years old (younger than Brees, Brady, Manning and Romo).

    Rivers will give you Pro Bowl production for at least another 4 years at QB. If that’s not worth the 2nd overall, I don’t know what is.

    Unless the Titans are sold on Mariota and believe that he can be as productive as Rivers over the next 5-10 years (which it doesn’t sound like), then they should make the deal and not look back.

  19. If Rivers committed to signing a new deal with the Titans, I would do that trade in an heartbeat. You’d be getting a top 5 QB and in that sorry division, the Titans would immediately have a good shot at winning it.

  20. VondyP says:
    Apr 5, 2015 12:50 PM
    please god, no.

    -titans fan
    _________________

    You should be kissing the ground.

  21. todd6162 says:
    Apr 5, 2015 1:15 PM
    Come on Buffalo step up to the plate

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    This guy has it right… If the chargers are going to trade rivers, the only team i can see where it works for them is the bills… the bills second this year 1st next year and Manuel i think could get it done… Maybe they have to throw in next years second as well, but then Buffalo is right there with NE, maybe even with Rivers they pass NE for the AFC East crown and REAL shot at going back to the super bowl…

  22. Let’s face facts… NFL teams and owners care about nothing but making money. If they can offset his salary by a playoff appearance or two, don’t think for a moment they wouldn’t do it… It’s a business and they are in it for one reason and one reason only, no matter what color your heart bleeds..

  23. This actually makes perfect sense. Too much sense. So what that he’s 33? In football, the greatest dynasties usually last four years (3 championships in 4 years) or five years (4 championships in 5 years).

    I’m not saying the Titans will be the next greatest thing, but all you need is a 5 year window. Rivers would be close to his hometown and not only does Rivers know Whisenhunt’s system, but he thrived in it in San Diego. A perfect fit. Even though the New England Patriots won the Superbowl, the AFC is still weaker than the NFC.

    The Titans could become a wild card contender this year with Rivers. Sell jerseys, have a team star, put the Titans back on the map, create a 2010s Colts-Titans rivalry, etc.. It would also save jobs as they’ll be improved. Whisenhunt had success in the past, but if he picks the wrong QB (which may be both Winston and Mariota), he’s fired.

    It sounds like San Diego is looking for Rivers replacement in the draft. They could have the second pick and chose whichever QB wasn’t picked with the first overall pick. That could be the face of their franchise whether they move to Los Angeles or remain in San Diego.

    I think it’s a win-win for both teams.

  24. Total compensation for the 2004 #1 overall pick:

    2004# 4
    2004# 65
    2005# 12
    2015# 2

    Zero Super Bowls.

  25. Yep, Rivers for this year’s 1&2 and next year’s 2. I’m a very longtime Charger fan.

  26. When one team can have the same starter for more than 5 seasons it usually turns out really good for the team (except Jay Cutler) Guys like Favre, Rodgers, Brees, and Rivers.

    Teams that don’t get that starter for 5 years often struggle for long periods of times, like the Browns, Vikings, Phins, Jags, and Bills.

    While I think Rivers is still VERY good, I don’t think he has 5 years left in him, so when he retires or doesn’t want to resign after this season, the Titans would wind up back at square one. So I think they should draft a QB.

  27. I’m sure it wouldn’t be a straight up trade of Rivers for the number 2 pick. San Diego would have to include their first round pick or maybe several later picks in the 2nd-5th round area. Tennessee could probably get Cutler from the Bears much cheaper and get the Bears to include some cash to help pay Cutlers salary.

  28. Yeah ,let’s give up the second overall pick for a guy who may not re-sign with the Titans next season .

    Also he could retire well before team is done filling all the holes on the roster,even if he doesn’t retire he’ll likely be past his prime before the holes are filled…

  29. They better get more than Rivers for the 2nd overall pick. Rivers is a good QB but he is 33 so he might have 5 good years left. They need more to make this deal happen.

  30. Winston at 1 Mariota at 2 means the Raiders get either Williams or Fowler at pick #4! WIN WIN!

    RAIDER NATION!!!!!

  31. “#NobodycanpossiblyhaveitbetterthanUS”

    Lol yeah well nobody but every team that made the playoffs last season at the very least.

    Hope you enjoyed the playoffs last year not watching your favorite team in them. Hey at least Seattle didn’t win the SB again though, that would have been totally unbearable to the 9ers fans

  32. Interesting. Rivers is a winner. Tennessee would be wise to make this move. As a Raider fan I’m about 50/50 on this trade. It’s good to have Rivers out of the division but San Diego is thinking big picture. Raiders and Chargers would have two bright NFL QB’s in Carr and Mariota and the Broncos (who are thinking short term) have Manning and the Chiefs have Alex Smith. I think the tide will be turning very soon in the AFC West. I think the Jags take WR Amari Cooper to give Bortles more weapons and the Raiders continue to build a rock solid defense and take Williams. Raiders front seven is looking stronger. Can’t wait for the draft and for the baseball season to be over!

  33. This is all a smoke screen. Rivers won’t draft a QB in the 1st round, but he wants everyone to think he is. Known draft tactic.

  34. Why wouldn’t Miami trade Tannehill straight up for Rivers? Maybe even throw in a pick as well?

    Tannehill IMO is much better than Mariota. He’s improved every season, I just see him as an Andy Dalton/Alex Smith/Mattew Stafford type of QB. Good, but not great.

    They’d instantly go from an 8-8 team to a 10-11 win team that could compete for the AFC.

    Also, I’d rather give a 100 mil contract to Rivers instead of Tannehill. 33 isn’t that old for a QB anymore, just look at Brady, Manning, Brees and Rothlisburger still going strong.

  35. San Diego will need to toss either their first or second rounder in to make this trade work. No way Tennessee flips the #2 pick for just Rivers. He just does not have that value at this point in his career. A starting QB+a first round pick is definitely the starting price of the auction for the #2 overall pick though.

  36. This actually makes a lot of sense. I never bought the crap that Tennessee had found their franchise QB in Zach Mettenberger as the next Tom Brady. After a decade in San Diego, Philip Rivers is still deep Dixie southern and is one QB who would easily embrace moving his big family (7 kids) to Nashville.
    I can see both Rivers and Tennessee being attracted to the possibility and we know that the Chargers really like Mariota.

  37. Everyone is ironing the fact this deal would undoubtedly be a trade of round 1 picks. In that scenario, a 33yo QB is the reasonable price of moving from 17 to 2. No GM would give the second pick for any QB without getting that team’s 1st rounder as well. Geez ppl think.

  38. I’m all for keeping Rivers, but…this could be a pretty good scanrio for the Chargers.

    Rivers is getting old, and has one year left on his contract. If the Chargers could trade Rivers for the #2 overall while keeping their #17 pick, thus getting Mariota and Gurley/Gordon or further beefing up one of the lines with that #17 pick, I think the Chargers have to entertain that if they’re as high on Mariota as the rumors suggest.

  39. As a Bolts fan I’d be doing backflips to unload an aging turnover machine for a 1st round pick!
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    Probably one of the most incorrect statements anybody has made on a sports blog. EVER. What is most strange about the statement is that the FACTS are available from MULTIPLE sources. All one has to do is look.
    Rivers doesn’t even make the list for most career turnovers. And while you’re checking that, also notice Rivers is top ten lifetime in QB rating, completion percent, net yards per attempt, and more.

    Is he top five elite? No, but pretty close to it. Definitely not a “turnover machine”. That being said, the Titans SHOULD NOT trade for him. But if they do, the Chargers should accept nothing less than the Titan’s first and third round this year, and next year’s 2nd round. After all it is a buyer’s market for QBs

  40. Well, one thing for sure is that the only way for Whisenhunt to win is to have a seasoned QB that doesn’t need coaching.

  41. If I was rivers I would retire before I would go to Tennessee! If he goes there his career is over they aren’t even going to be in the playoffs anytimed soon!

  42. Chargers should keep rivers and draft a successor. Mariota might drop like Rodgers did. Petty is also a possibility. Try to keep rivers as long as he’s competitive and then let him retire/move on. Titans should keep the pick and draft Williams.

  43. Wow.. that’d be a poor move for the Titans. Rivers is not worth the #2 pick. I’d do the deal if the chargers included their next 2 1st rounders as well. I say the Titans should draft Mariota.

  44. As a Chiefs fan, I would be all for seeing Rivers leave the AFC west, which is a tribute to him being a good QB. He is 33. He likely has 4 more years left in him. Mariota is unproven at the NFL level.

  45. As a Bolts fan I’d be doing backflips to unload an aging turnover machine for a 1st round pick!
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    Probably one of the most incorrect statements anybody has made on a sports blog. EVER. What is most strange about the statement is that the FACTS are available from MULTIPLE sources. All one has to do is look.
    Rivers doesn’t even make the list for most career turnovers. And while you’re checking that, also notice Rivers is top ten lifetime in QB rating, completion percent, net yards per attempt, and more.

    Is he top five elite? No, but pretty close to it. Definitely not a “turnover machine”. That being said, the Titans SHOULD NOT trade for him. But if they do, the Chargers should accept nothing less than the Titan’s first and third round this year, and next year’s 2nd round. After all it is a buyer’s market for QBs
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    All true, except for the part where the Titans give that much for a 33 year old QB with a big contract. You can’t trade away your future like the Redskins did for 1 guy whom you admitted is maybe top 5 QB. That would be insanity. I don’t think the Titans are SB ready at least this year anyway, so why not just draft Mariota and build around him?

  46. He’s a better fit for a team like Buffalo who is 1 qb away from being really good, or potentially so… Tennessee should want a guy to be around for 10 years… They are not just a qb away

  47. Wow! Not much depreciation in his value if this is true. Traded for a first overall pick when drafted.

  48. It would take more than pick #2 to obtain an established franchise quarterback..

  49. We all agree that Rivers is a great qb but trading down 15 spots to get him and only him?

    Four playoff wins since 2006 and two of those wins in one season.
    If he can’t win with San Diego why would he win with Tennessee?

    The Bolts fans on here saying Tennessee needs to give up more are dreaming, and would not be saying that if the trade was the other way around.

  50. gomybirdsgo says: Apr 5, 2015 1:38 PM

    If the chargers are going to trade rivers, the only team i can see where it works for them is the bills… the bills second this year 1st next year and Manuel i think could get it done… Maybe they have to throw in next years second as well, but then Buffalo is right there with NE, maybe even with Rivers they pass NE for the AFC East crown and REAL shot at going back to the super bowl…
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    No chance that the Bills 2nd this year, 1st next year and Manuel is nearly enough. SD will want a QB, and a Tennessee deal gives them a shot at Mariota. Your Bills trade scenario gives them squat.

  51. Titans need a lot more than just Rivers to be a contender, with Rivers they are not even an 8-8 team. Trading for an older QB makes no sense for them to do with as many holes has they have.

  52. U shud let everyone know in ur article that rivers is from alabama and that Tennessee is geographically closer to home then say LA or SD. Whats wrong with playn closer to home to close ur career? He also had arguebly his best season under whizenhunt making the move more enticing as well.

  53. Mariota would much prefer San Diego. He visits his family frequently in Hawaii. He has stated his preference for a west coast team. This could be a fit.

  54. For those asking about the Rivers family and a potential trade to Nashville, remember this:
    1. Philip Rivers was born in Decatur, Alabama and went to high school in Athens, Alabama (both just across the Tennessee line in North Alabama).
    2.His Dad was a famous High School coach in North Alabama.
    3. It is less than a one hour drive from here in Nashville to North Alabama which is Titans country.
    4. Whenever the Chargers play here in Nashville, he always has numerous family and friends who come up to watch him and visit.
    5. He has been known to attend events in Middle Tennessee during the off-season.

  55. Trade the 2nd overall pick for a 33 year old QB? That would be one of the Too 5 Dumbest Trades of all time. The Titans are a bad team and are no where near competing for the playoffs. Adding Rivers while giving up the #2 overall pick would set them back as a franchise. He would probably help them win 2-4 games a season which would just make them a 4-6 win team and hurt their draft status in future seasons.

  56. This is crazy. Why would a team in rebuilding mode trade the number two pick for a 33 year old QB who hasn’t done anything in the playoffs? I like Phillip Rivers, but the Titans need more than a QB.

  57. I don’t think that Buffalo has the ammo to trade for Rivers without a first rounder this year.

  58. vusnu says:
    Apr 5, 2015 1:21 PM

    Rivers is a probably a top two QB at this stage with the decline of Peyton. Still, at 33 years old, I don’t see how he’s worth the number two pick.
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    Seriously? Rivers isn’t even a top two QB from the Class of ’04.

  59. LOL, first of all, this will not happen. Only ooutsiders and those from Tennessee would write something like this because it has no merit here in SD.

    And those who think that they would trade Rivers for only the #2 pick is dreaming. I even saw one guy suggest SD would have to give up more. You Sir have no clue.
    You dont trade for a QB like Rivers for just a first round pick while still recieving one back, lol. Hell Carson Palmer brought more than that he isnt close to Rivers as a QB. They would have to give up another first in 2016 and either their 2nd or 3rd.

    This trade will not happen. Good luck with Mariota Tennesee.

  60. And Rivers turned 33 in Dec. It isnt like he is about to turn 34. Peyton Manning signed with the Broncos at 37 with a bad neck.

  61. willycents says: Apr 5, 2015 1:04 PM

    If he does not want to move to LA, he has seven kids in school, what makes you think he would move to Nashville?

    Exactly.

  62. The Titans have the leverage here. There is no way they give up #2 for Rivers straight up. They will get Rivers, #17, and a pick in the 2 or 3 rounds. And if not then no deal and they take Lenard Williams or mariota themselves.

  63. Not a Charger fan but living down here I see them play a lot. Rivers is a very, very good quarterback. More impressed with his competitiveness and his leadership, as a Cowboys fan I would take him over Romo anytime. Dude is a football player! Titans #2 is going to Philly for Bradford, Demarco Murray and Philly’s #1. Chip will take Mariota and they will suck, badly.

  64. Rivers is a hell of a lot better than Kevin Kolb who Whiz traded for after a Super Bowl appearence when he Coaches the with the Cardinals. I know grass is always greener but a good solid starting is hard to find.

  65. How do all these SD fans not know that Rivers is from a town in Alabama just south of the Tennessee border? If he’s going to move his family why wouldn’t it be to Titan country, where he’s from?

  66. I really don’t see why trading the #2 for a QB who is not guaranteed to stay after one year is smart. Do you think Rivers would resign if Whiz gets fired? I’d rather keep the #2 and draft Williams and let him and Casey cause havoc.

  67. It’s a terrible idea to leverage the future for a few good years with a QB with a terrible playoff track record while your team is in rebuilding mode…

    With that said, the Titans will definitely do it.

  68. If you threw Rivers into the draft this year (even at his age), I think he would go very high. The Titans have been bad for a long time and haven’t had a decent QB since McNair. This would be a major upgrade for them at the most important position in the game. A good QB goes a long way in making a team good.

  69. If both fan bases are complaining about what they would receive in such a trade, then it must be pretty fair.

    Why would Whiz want Rivers? How many more years do you think Whiz would have as the Titan’s head coach after last year’s Titan’s disasterous season? It is called job security.

    Why would the Chargers trade Rivers? If Rivers refuses to play in LA, and the Chargers are dead set on moving to LA, it makes sense to at least get something for him now via trade.

    Trading Rivers for the second over all pick makes sense for both sides.

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