With draft approaching, #DeflateGate ruling becomes more important

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When the NFL hired Ted Wells to conduct the #DeflateGate investigation and basically told him to take his time, the NFL surely didn’t expect him to take an extended period of time.  After all, how hard can it be to figure out whether the Patriots did or didn’t deliberately tamper with the air pressure inside footballs used in the AFC championship game?

Now, more than 10 weeks after Wells was retained — and nine weeks to the day since he said it would take at least several more weeks to finish the investigation — the draft is only three weeks and three days away.  With the Patriots facing the potential loss of draft picks if they’re determined to be responsible for violating the rules regarding permissible air pressure, the Patriots need to know whether they’ll have all of their 2015 draft picks, sooner than later.

For now, any planning for the draft necessarily hinges on whether and to what extent one or more picks will be pilfered from the Patriots.  Even though the Patriots remain steadfast regarding their innocence, they’re smart enough to realize that what they believe and what the league concludes may conflict, especially given the strong possibility that one or more employees of the league office will feel compelled to find wrongdoing in order to justify the entire excursion.

Right or wrong, guilty or innocent, atmospheric or deliberate, the time has come for Ted Wells to devote all efforts to getting the report finished so that the NFL can decide whether and to what extent the Patriots will be losing one or more picks in a draft that begins in only 24 days.

186 responses to “With draft approaching, #DeflateGate ruling becomes more important

  1. Report not coming until the Friday afternoon after the draft. This date has been circled since wells was hired. Goodells scandal sweeping under the rug team hard at work again.

  2. Ex Jet employees Goodell and Kensil should be suspended or fired for allowing this dog and pony show to go forward in the first place.

  3. Slap on the wrist will unfortunately be the outcome of yet another Patriot cheating scandal..

  4. [Wells at the podium] Yes, we er…ah, conducted this investigation thoroughly and, er, um…

    HEY! Look up there…

    [footsteps running away]

  5. If they had something on the Patriots the investigation would already be done. They have something juicy on the league office and i’m so pumped.. What will Goodell say.. Suspend himself !

  6. They also need to notify the Pats what picks they’ll be getting from the Jets for tampering

  7. The lasting patriots legacy isn’t 4 championships in 15 years, it’s the rule changes they’ve created from cheating throughout all of them.

    Down vote all you want but just ask yourself;

    1. Can I name a signature game for Brady that was more important the Tuck Rule?

    2. How many rule changes and loopholes have had to be closed since 2001?

  8. When will everyone wake up…Roger [Kraft] Goodell is NOT going to go against the most influential owner and his main benefactor. The pasties, no matter what transpired will get nothing, save for a slap on the wrist, for cheating…again…

    Personally, I believe that Goodell should, in all good consciousness, issue some severe punishment, due to the propensity of that franchise, under BB, to push the limits of the rule book…

    But alas, Tom Terrific, Bill Belicheat and Mr. Kraft will get nothing compared to what they should get…

    They set the tone with Hotlanta and the Browns… Slap on the wrist for cheating…

  9. I think one of the main reasons we still haven’t heard anything on this is it looks like there is neither enough evidence to exonerate nor doom the Patriots in this matter. What do you do then? The SOP for this offense is 25000. I say do it eleven times and put the NFL back in control of all footballs.

  10. “The time has come…”

    Really? Now the time has come? What about the past few months?

  11. End story: “There is no conclusive evidence that the New England Patriots manipulated, tampered with or altered any game ball that was used in the AFC Championship game. The single ball that may have been lower than the approved standard of 11.5 lbs may have lost pressure when the colts or officials were checking it during the course of the game. Additionally, two or three other balls that were nearly at approved PSI, had no effect on the outcome of the game. There is no video or testimonial evidence to suggest that the Patriots knowingly used an unapproved ball. Nor is there any evidence that team officials or players directed any tampering or changes to the ball in question. Officials checked the remainder of the approved game balls and found them to be approved for use in the second half. Forensic examination of the ball in question did show that it had a “SLOW” leak, and that may have accounted for it being 2 psi lower.

  12. So you’re saying that the NFL is predisposed to manufacture a guilty verdict, irrespective of any “evidence” to justify their Witch Hunt? Nice…yet unfortunately entirely believable!

  13. Brady ordered the employee to deflate the balls after they were inspected. Eight game suspension for him and loss of their first round pick.

  14. Deflategate is a farce …. nothing will nor should come of it. Where’s the decision on Tampergate … or are the Jets going to get away with a little love tap !!

  15. It’s all about the testing that is supposedly occurring at Columbia Univ. Do you have any idea how slowly they move in higher ed?

    As soon as they get the reports from Columbia–which will show that the pressure decrease is 100% explainable–the report will wrap up and the Pats–World Champion Pats that is–will be vindicated…or maybe Vincedicated?

    GO PATS

  16. Wait. Wait. I don’t get it. Lets punish the wrong doers but lets not really punish them that much?
    Atlanta loses a pick but it’s in 2016 so the team has time to lessen the impact.
    Now the Patriots might lose a pick but lets hurry up and tell them so they have time to do something that will lessen the impact?
    I don’t get it.

  17. I CAN’T WAIT for the report!

    After the report lays the hammer on Kensil, the Colts, and who knows who else for trying to frame the Patriots… PLUS the Jets for tampering…. all those draft picks coming back to the Pats…it’s like the Easter bunny bringing goodies all over again! 🙂

  18. If Wells’ report was to indicate that the Pats did tamper with a football or footballs, 1) would it not recommend the appropriate fines as stated in the NFL rulebook for such offenses?,

    And 2) it would make them look like a bunch of idiots because it would establish that Kensil knowingly allowed the first half of the AFC Championship game to be played with out-of-regulation footballs, solely so that he could attempt a self-concieved sting of NE.

    Which, as we know, worked out flawlessly due to Kensil’s immaculate planning and all of the irrefutable evidence he managed to collect along the way.

  19. Thousands of people have done the relevant experiment, using a football, a pump, a pressure gauge, and a refrigerator. The unanimous results: a football cooled 25 degrees loses a little over 1 psi of pressure.

    All day, every day, on our planet (more accurately, in our universe).

    thus: Nobody necessarily took a single molecule of any gas from those footballs.

    Footballs at 12.5 psi go to 11.5 psi (Patriots)
    Footballs at 13.5 psi go to 12.5 psi (Colts)

    If Wells has a second grader, make he can ask him/her for help on this one.

  20. Poor poor Patriots haters.

    They still kept winning after Spygate.
    The Rams walkthrough story was…nothing.
    The two 14 point comebacks against the Ravens.
    They didn’t get kicked out of the Super Bowl like you wanted them to.
    The comeback against the Seahawks and oh that ending! 🙂
    And now the report is going to blame many elements for what happened with the deflated footballs but the Pats will be vindicated.

    I bet the emotional roller coaster has taken its toll by now. 🙂

  21. So why WAS the football in the Colts possession underinflated BY FAR more than any other one? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.

    🙂

  22. “especially given the strong possibility that one or more employees of the league office will feel compelled to find wrongdoing in order to justify the entire excursion.”

    True dat. Also that tiny fact that Grigson is on record saying he told the league office before their game against the Pats that he wanted ball inflation to be an issue. Then the league set up a “sting” on the Pats. Then the Commish said he never knew about a sting (and there was absolutely a sting going on here without his knowledge). The all those phony leaks to Mort and company at ESPN per “a league source”. Not just one “league source” leak by the way – multiple leaks by the league office. The majority of the leaks being false info.

    Maybe Wells already finished reviewing the Pats weeks ago and Goodell is paying him for all this extra time to try to figure out why his league office is such a mess?

  23. This is not like the Incognito/Martin situation with evidence from text messages. It was easy to draw conclusions from that fiasco. Now Ted must pull something out of the air. (No pun intended)

    If any other team was involved the investigation would have been over weeks ago.

  24. I’d like to know why the Colts didn’t IMMEDIATELY hand the intercepted football back to the game officials when they thought it was deflated, and ask that this be looked into by league officials.

    THAT was the appropriate way to handle this, unless there was a scheme already in the works.

  25. It’s kind of obvious when the only REALLY deflated ball was the one that the Colts had in their possession for 20 minutes. Come on Ted, I think you milked enough hours already.

  26. uwisheuwereapatsfan2 says: Apr 6, 2015 10:47 AM

    It’s all about the testing that is supposedly occurring at Columbia Univ. Do you have any idea how slowly they move in higher ed?

    —–

    I believe this testing has more to do with the coming clarifications to NFL Rule 2 and allowing for natural deflation than to prove anything in this case.

  27. It is taking so long because the NFL has nothing substantial enough to punish the Pats. And as it stands the NFL is going to look really really bad if they can’t find proof of Patriots wrongdoing.

    It is bad enough Kensil has a job in the NFL front office, even worse that he is allowed to officiate Patriots games, this man worked for the Jets and at one point stated that he would make sure Belichick never worked in the NFL again(no bias there?).

    If the Patriots get punished without any actual proof I would absolutely love for them to take it to the courts just like the Saints did and make the NFL look stupid.

    Even if found innocent I’d love for the Pats and Brady to take legal action against the NFL and some of the sports “writers” who slandered them.

  28. It’s taking longer because he uncovered a 10 year pattern of cheating by deflating balls. It’s not just a 1 game scandal. This is a very long history of tampering with game balls, trying to gain an unfair competitive advantage. Cheaters fear that they can’t win by playing it fair. Brady & Belicheck are the poster children for modern era cheating scandals. It’s sad that with that level of talent & determination, they feel the need to break the rules……..

  29. sb44champs says:
    Apr 6, 2015 10:42 AM

    Slap on the wrist will unfortunately be the outcome of yet another Patriot cheating scandal..

    —————

    Huh??? After spygate they lost a first round pick and paid 750k in fines (500 personally by Belichick). That was for an offense that they weren’t even hiding. They were doing it openly on the sideline. That’s far from a slap on the wrist.

    Atlanta was covertly pumping in crowd noise and they lost a 5th rounder and only 350k in fines. Imagine the Patriots had done it and that was the fine? The outcry would be unbelievable.

  30. Down vote all you want but just ask yourself;

    1. Can I name a signature game for Brady that was more important the Tuck Rule?

    2. How many rule changes and loopholes have had to be closed since 2001?

    – – – – – — – —
    1. Super Bowl 49 since Brady faced the most scrutiny than ever before, Super Bowl 42 because of the whole Spygate thing, or Super Bowl 36 since that was one of the bigger upsets and the final result of that Tuck Rule season where he started as a nobody. Almost any game vs Peyton Manning can be added.

    2. In 2004, the pass defense rules were changed for Peyton Manning since he couldn’t get past the Patriot hump. Last season, after the Seahawks thrashing, the league passed more changes for secondary defenders. I remember after the Hawks won the re-match last season in OT, people were calling for more OT rule changes.

  31. What utter BS. The Patriots are in a no win situation. Guilty until proven innocent. And when they are found innocent of wrong doing, the haters will say that it was fixed from the start.

    Shame on Goodell, Kensil, Irsay

  32. The information that has leaked out from the league has all been discredited. The facts are a former jets employee who works for the league allowed a personal vendetta against the Pats to smear a championship game. Lies, falsehoods, false accusations and deceit have all come from the league office through this man. The GM of the Colts has already begun talking to cover his own behind.

  33. I notice a lot of “sweeping under the carpet” remarks. Honestly if Goodell and Kraft were so buddy buddy like many people seem to think they are, this whole DeflateGate thing wouldn’t have even surfaced. Worst case scenario it would have been shut down within a week, much like the accusations of the Colts pumping fake crowd noise in the 2006 AFC Championship game against the Patriots. Same thing regarding spygate, Goodell made a spectacle of it with the media in 2007 yet the incidents with the Jets and Dolphins in 2006 were widely ignored or dismissed as common practice by John Clayton. To think Goodell does Kraft any major favors is just silly.

  34. Ty for ur draft pick jets, and thank u to all the fans of other teams who are so jealous of us its become comedy. Its at the point now where u clowns are more concerned with the world champion patriotd, the greatest qb, greatest coach, greatest owner and greatest dynasty ever in the nfl.

    Kiss the rings

  35. Ted Wells is a well paid puppet. He will find although the balls were deflated there was not enough evidence on who actuall took the air out. To be honest. I could care less. The press only reports on what teams or individuals are accused of doing. Word to the intelligent people. All the teams are doing whatever it takes to win. We only hear about the ones that are caught. Wells does not out half the stuff in his reports anyway so again. Complete BS. I really hope nothing happens. That way all the pinheads in the media will go bonkers all season long. Now, that’s entertainment folks

  36. Can I name a signature game for Brady that was more important the Tuck Rule?

    —–
    I like thinking that Brady fumbled. It’s karma for Roughing the passer 25 years earlier.

    Raider fan needs to get over it, they owed the Pats bigtime and now it’s paid in full.

  37. Colts time of possession of only football deflated by 2 PSI = 22:00

    Colts time of possession of football on the field = 22:11

    Nothing else needs to be said

  38. If you watched Kraft testify in the Hernandez case you would be perfectly fine thinking that he is a few cards short of a full deck. But then the fact that he has been able to manipulate the NFL into letting him win 4 SB’s via cheating proves that the gears are grinding in that head.

  39. Issue a memo to all teams warning them not to try to game the system, tighten control procedures, fine Colts GM, take Colts 2nd round pick and fire Kensil and whomever else was involved from the league office. Oh, and apologize to Kraft, Belichick and the Patriots.

  40. No team should lose a 2015 draft pick at this point. It is unreasonable from the standpoint of planning purposes to take it away this close to the draft. The Patriots have compesatory picks coming their way in 2016. Taking away the Patriots 3rd in 2016 helps the NFL justify this farce.

  41. No matter what…the fact that Kensil allowed what could be illegal footballs to see an entire half of conference championship game action – just so he and Grigson can run their little sting operation – is reason enough to give him his walking papers and fine Grigson.

  42. All the pats haters are hoping beyond hope that the pats get punished but we all know it’s not happening. The wells report is taking so long because there’s nothing to nail the pats for.

    More likely the colts get punished for obviously deflating the one ball.

    Can’t wait for the wells report to come out and all the haters to start crying.

    Pats superbowls since 15: 1
    Your real: ZERO

  43. NEW ENGLAND SHOULD SUE THE NFL. THE ONLY ONE WHO WOULD SUE IS AL DAVIS AND HE’S GONE.

  44. What more proof do they need?… The team was caught using footballs with deficient air.

    The other team’s game balls met specifications and the Patriots did not. Therefore, Belichick’s claim that weather factored into it has ZERO credibility!…

    This organization opened THEMSELVES up to such scrutiny by being busted before (Spygate)…. Now this is another offense.. You can claim it’s minor all you want—- Kraft can cry all he wants and demand an apology until his face turns blue (and red and white)…. YOUR team is ultimately responsible for assuring that your equipment meets the specifications….

    Now– Goodell just needs to rule on this and move-on!

  45. The Pats sent the Hernandez message to all the staff. Snitches get stitches. Don’t break Don Belichick’s heart.

  46. Patriots haters have seemed so ANGRY over the last couple of months.

    I wonder why? 🙂

  47. So now you’re back to assuming the Patriots are guilty?

    Did you forget that only one ball actually tested low, and that was the one that the Colts possessed for 20 minutes?

    Did you forget that the NFL’s own referee was pilfering balls from the field to sell off for charity, and then put them back on the field when their absence was noticed?

    Did you forget the total cluster-fudge chain of custody of those footballs?

  48. The pats need to know? Umm what about Gordon last yr and the Browns having no idea how long his suspension was gonna be? Nfl takes forever to rule on things Pats shouldn’t be an exception to the rule(like they frequently are)

  49. It no longer even matters what this hand-picked Goodell puppet has to say, you can already see where this is going.
    Regardless, the damage to the Patsies reputation is now carved in stone – right up there with the 1919 Chicago Black Sox.
    Sleazy organization, from top to bottom.

  50. “The other team’s game balls met specifications and the Patriots did not.”

    Conjecture: an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information

    “YOUR team is ultimately responsible for assuring that your equipment meets the specifications….”

    Factually incorrect: not in accordance with fact; wrong

  51. restorativejusticeprogram says:Apr 6, 2015 11:11 AM

    Colts should lose all their picks for trying to defraud the Pats and the league by deflating the ball in their possession.

    .
    .

    It’s likely why the investigation into a scandal of a billion dollar business has taken months instead of weeks. It looks bad on the NFL if there is in fact underhanded events taking place. You drag out the investigation, the situation loses its polarization. The NFL wins here regardless of the outcome cuz people kinda forget about it.

  52. There really isn’t any reason to believe that the investigation/report has to be done before the 2015 Draft since the last penalties handed down removed 2016 picks. Still have one year and about 3 weeks to get it completed.

    My guess; they can make that deadline.

  53. I have a question for everyone. When did the Patriots cheat and get a “slap on the wrist”? The one time the Patriots were caught cheating they got the biggest fine ever handed down to a team and lost a first round draft pick, for taping a couple feet away from where they legally could mind you. As far as the tuck rule goes, you people should do some research. That “tuck rule” was made two times earlier in that same season in games not including the Patriots and no one thought anything of it until it was called for the Patriots. I’m not saying they didn’t deserve the punishment, I’m just sick of people saying the Patriots get away with things that other teams don’t. What about the latest “slaps on the wrist” for Atlanta and Cleveland, no one seems to care too much about those. Or the fact that Baltimore players came back from injuries that should have sidelined them for the rest of the year when they won. Or how about Seattle having the most players test positive for steroids the year that they won. Or more recently, the greatest receiver of all time coming out saying he used stickum his whole career? Barely a blip on the radar for most people which is just insane to me. Other quarterbacks came out after deflate gate saying that they like their balls a certain way and no one cared at all, the only team people like to complain about is the Patriots. After saying all of those things and the reactions they got from the league and fans I would surmise that if anything, the Patriots get worse treatment than any other team in the league when it comes to punishment. What if the Patriots are found innocent in this latest scandal? Can the league take back the two weeks of distraction leading up to the superbowl? Can they take back the tarnishing of all the names involved? The answer is no, they can’t. So say all you want about them as an organization, but realize that the league cam down harder on them than any other team in history for doing something that was legal the year before while other teams get almost no punishment for actively trying to manipulate games.

  54. Wells hasn’t come out with anything because there is nothing to find. The only ones trying to keep this alive are outlets like pff. Unless there is some proof it the colts tampering with the ball they had in their possession because of the interception, there is nothing to see here folks

  55. I don’t think the length of time this has taken has much to do with proof around Patriots tampering. When all is said and done the league in concert with the report is going to have to answer questions such as:
    1. Actual PSI of each ball before the game and measured at halftime (including Colts)
    2. How league will manage footballs going forward
    3. Who did Grigson notify at the league office before the game and who else (i.e league officials) was made aware of the Colts concern

  56. Me thinks the league is looking for a way to save face after giving the go ahead for this ridiculous investigation in the first place. Goodell needed something to take the focus off the lousy job he has been doing during SB week. He should have come out and said “here are the facts that led to this investigation” instead he let the media float wild accustations and unfounded rumors. He is a complete failure as the face of the NFL. The league needs to hire someone else to be the face and let Goodell handle the business of making money which he is good at.

  57. I love how all you clowns that post that the Pats are cheaters can care less about the blatant “cheating” that happened in the Viking and Panther game this past year. The fact that the two teams put footballs in front of heaters to soften them for a better grip doesn’t mater at all to you? So why is an allegation of releasing air out of the ball for a better grip more egregious than that? The league walked down to the sideline and told the Panthers and the Vikings to knock it off , the league was tipped off before the Pats and colts game so why didn’t Thay get told to Knock it off? The answer to these questions are painfully obvious to someone that is objective, but hate,pettiness and jealousy cloud most peoples minds.

  58. Holding is cheating!
    Tripping is cheating!
    If the refs don’t call it … It’s not cheating.
    Deflating the football is cheating … The refs missed it so it’s not cheating.
    See the problem … it’s the refs. They don’t see the Pats cheating so it’s not cheating.

    The Pats are SB champs … say whatever you want … they still are the champs.

  59. Just a thought, but shouldn’t we also be seeing articles about the need to resolve the Jets’ tampering case before the draft? Woody Johnson spoke out of turn before deflategate. Where’s the emphasis on that?

  60. I love the haters! They can’t possibly hate enough to escape the immutable truth that is all you haters would suck a room full of you know what to have Bill as the coach of the your team and Tom Brady is the quarterback of your team so just keep on hating people! And God bless the Patriots. hahahahaha

  61. What punishment will the colts get for deflating the 1 ball that was the real issue here? But don’t write an article about that just keep accusing the Patriots even though you have nothing on them .

  62. bottom line is Kraft has gone on record a couple of times saying there is no “smoking gun” and they did nothing wrong. You know that the NFL Office would keep one of the 3 most influential & powerful owners apprised, especially if they found anything showing guilt, so that he would not say something publicly that would look stupid later. Wells reports will say 3 things:
    1) no proof of intentional tampering…
    2) league needs a better process in place for handling game balls…
    3) Patriots will be fined small amount, because “technically” they broke protocol by the old guy stopping in the bathroom to take a leak for 90 seconds, when protocol is to get ball from officials and go straight to field

  63. Total non-story that the NFL has allowed to get completely overblown. Biggest loser here is Colts’ GM, who decided to grasp at straws instead of focus on his team’s playoff game. Grigson should be fired.

  64. Are you kidding? If Wells had found any smoking gun – anything at all suspicious or unusual on the part of Belichick, Brady or someone working on their behalf – that information would have been leaked out in a heartbeat as soon as it was discovered.

    Grigson and Kensil couldn’t wait to leak out tidbits that seemed to implicate the Pats earlier in the investigation. They’ve clammed up since, which shows the league has nothing on New England.

  65. As if anything will happen to the by GOD patsies, the bought & won the superbowl & the darlings of the NFL will never get in trouble for anything, infact will probably make a new rule to compliment the patsies to go ahead & deflate them a little bit for the patsies games!!!

  66. love our childish commenters! just as it pertains to the video taping of defensive signals situation (can’t dignify it with the “gate” at the end of it), people simply refuse to listen to facts. they hear what they only want to hear. just like ferguson. just like the overreaction in boston a week ago after a cop got shot in the face. the world we live in…people only hear what they want to hear. so childish. #letitgo

  67. They haven’t even asked Tom Brady about what he knew yet. They are waiting until after he retires.

    Different Rules,
    T-Sizzle

  68. People need to stop jumping to conclusions about this story. As of now we have no concrete facts about this case. Every single leaked story has either been disproved or contradicted to the point that anyone who claims to know specifics is just ignorant or lying. People are already complaining about the punishment when we don’t even know if a crime was even committed yet.

  69. How come we don’t even know the name of the Patriot Ball Boy?

    If this were the Ravens, we would have found the video of deflating the balls. How long did it take to find the elevator video?

  70. Yankees …Patriots…Lakers….Canadiens …each demonstrated 20 years of continuous excellence. All were hated in their day…by those who try and fail to achieve what others have attained. While mocking all try to replicate the formula…the highest form of flattery.

  71. I certainly hope that this isn’t a “slap on the wrist” punishment and that the Colts are forced to suffer a massive penalty as well as a written apology to the Pats & the league.

  72. Patriots have fumbled slightly less than other teams since 2007. There’s a real smoking gun. The Vikings had the fewest fumbles last year; let’s investigate.

  73. Everyone knows something is getting swept under the rug. Its just a question of if its the Patriots, possibly the Colts, or the NFL just screwing it all up

  74. do they have different rules for pouring bleach on women and children?

    swagger52 says:
    Apr 6, 2015 12:25 PM
    They haven’t even asked Tom Brady about what he knew yet. They are waiting until after he retires.

    Different Rules,
    T-Sizzle

  75. Hasn’t everyone forgotten about this by now? The NFL is sure hoping so.

  76. To all you morons who keep beating the drum of “The Colts wouldn’t have won anyhow”…so, if I take a gun and shoot at you, if I miss then no crime committed?

  77. Ted Wells Investigation Results: Patriots are Guilty

    NFL Penalty: None

    I don’t believe anything the NFL does today is for the integrity of the game.

  78. You’ve got to love Tom Curran and the Pats PR Dept…Story went from Pats deflating game balls to making it an NFL conspiracy created by (ex) Jets employees.
    Only BB and staff could pull this off….congrats Bill! You are the Master……

  79. There are four choices

    A) The Patriots did nothing wrong. Move on.

    B) The Patriots did nothing wrong. Kensil’s sting efforts compromised the game. Move on with respect to the Patriots and fire Kensil.

    C) The footballs were at the minimum standard to begin the game. There is no evidence that they were deflated. Fine the Patriots $25,000 to save face for the league.

    D) The evidence shows that the Patriots deliberately deflated footballs and Kensil and the NFL caught them red handed. Suspend Belichick and Brady and take away the Patriot’s first round pick.

    I don’t think there are any smoking guns. That eliminates D. The league wants to save face and not make this (making a mockery of the weeks between the Super Bowl) much ado about nothing. That eliminates A. That means a minor fine for the Patriots or a finding that Kensil mishandled this, even if admitting that this wasn’t a sting. Goodell has come out and only said that HE, personally, knew nothing of the accusations. He left room to insert a knife in Kensil’s back.

    In any case, they were in no rush to get answers before. They shouldn’t be now. There is no rule that says that they can’t take 2016 picks away from the Patriots rather than rush a decision.

  80. Implying misconduct (regardless of truth) by team thats been incredibly successful for past 15 years = license to print money for sports writers.

  81. Fresh troll tears. So delicious. I especially enjoy the new variation. The ones formed when said troll realizes it might have been a witch hunt all along. Instead of manning up and admitting that, they instead cry their new tears. They have phrases like “Goodell sweeping this under the rug” or my personal current fav, “slap on the wrist”. This allows the trolls to cover themselves for when there is no punishment rather than admit they were wrong. Remember trolls, every time you type ‘*’ or ‘Bele-cheat’, or ‘Cheat-riots’, we know what those really are. Just more tears for us to lick from your poor pathetic cheeks.

  82. Hey trolls and haters. Don’t blame YOUR teams’ problems on the Pats! Its not our problem your team doesn’t win trophies.

    Its not our problem that YOUR team sucks.

    Its not our problem YOUR owner sucks.

    Its not our problem YOUR coach sucks. (YOUR team could have made a play to hire Belichek before he joined the Pats)

    Its not our problem YOUR quarterback sucks. (YOUR team had 6 rounds of chances to draft OUR quarterback)

    Win a trophy first. Then we’ll talk.

  83. voiceofreason01 says:
    Apr 6, 2015 12:18 PM
    Reporter: “Tom brady, are u a cheater?”
    Brady: “duh duh uuuh oh uh gee whiz i don’t believe so.”

    That answer wasn’t very convincing tom.
    ========================================
    What he really said (and you and Chris Collinsworth have a problem with this answer):

    Brady: “Well, I think, look, everyone is entitled to an opinion. When you play for one NFL team, there are 31 other NFL teams out there that are probably not much of a fan of you.

    If people want to feel whatever they feel, I have no problem with that, they are cerntalinly entitled to those beliefs and those feelings. I realize it’s not about me. Not a lot of people know who I am and what I am about. The people who know me, they know what I’m about and what I stand for.”

  84. swagger52 says:
    Apr 6, 2015 12:25 PM
    They haven’t even asked Tom Brady about what he knew yet…

    Belichick and Brady have been interviewed and they swore they do not know what became of the white suit.

  85. The question isn’t whether the Pats cheated. The question is who ordered it? Brady? Belichick? McDaniel? And we all know the result of the cheating (i.e., winning the AFC Championship, allowing them to get to the Super Bowl and win yet another tainted title). So the real question is what the punishment should be. And it should be that whoever was involved should be banned for the 2015 season, and they should lose their draft picks for Rounds 1-4. End of discussion.

  86. Same thing regarding spygate, Goodell made a spectacle of it with the media in 2007 yet the incidents with the Jets and Dolphins in 2006 were widely ignored or dismissed as common practice by John Clayton.
    ———————————————

    Wait a second! Oh, you mean other teams have been caught doing the exact same thing the Patriots were doing with “spygate”, but those situations weren’t overblown and overstated as “cheating” ad nauseam for years afterward?

  87. “chitowncolt says:
    The question isn’t whether the Pats cheated. The question is who ordered it? ”

    The only one who seems like they cheated here was the former Jets employee now Colts GM who clearly deflated the 1 ball that was way under pressure.

    What are you and the other Pats haters going to do if the Colts are the ones penalized ?

  88. If any team loses draft picks over this it should be the Colts for executing the fiasco and the Ravens for engineering it.

  89. afwhigs,love your post and totally agree. Only when the Pats are involved is it considered cheating. I can’t wait for this to go away.

  90. I hope all of these people trashing the Patriots will be tuning in for the opening game of the season when they raise another banner. You know they’ve been the most dominant team, without question, in the NFL over the last 13 or 14 years based on how much hate gets thrown at them. The Patriots have more Super Bowl wins in that 13-14 season time frame than a lot of NFL teams have playoff wins.

  91. chitowncolt says:
    The question isn’t whether the Pats cheated. The question is who ordered it? Brady? Belichick?
    ———————————————

    Umm – you really haven’t been following this story too closely, have you?

    Seems like some are still think the false information leaked from the League offices are true. ONLY ONE ball supposedly was below – the same one in the possession of the Colts and Kensil – not 11 of 12 as some seem to think still.

    The question is, who is leaking the false anti-Patriots information and why? Kensil of course has the opportunity and motive.

  92. “chitowncolt says:
    The question isn’t whether the Pats cheated. The question is who ordered it? ”

    The only one who seems like they cheated here was the former Jets employee now Colts GM who clearly deflated the 1 ball that was way under pressure.

    What are you and the other Pats haters going to do if the Colts are the ones penalized ?

    The evidence shows that 11 of the 12 balls were under-inflated–not just the one that the Colts got. Unless the Colts somehow intercepted 11 of the Pats’ 12 balls–and they didn’t–your argument doesn’t hold weight. I love how the Patriots defenders somehow think that by blaming the other guy, that will cause us all to forget that it was the Pats who cheated. Good strategy.

  93. It is taking longer than thought because Robert Kraft has Ted Wells stuck in a room in New Orleans where he is being plied with booze, dope and floozies until this blows over.

  94. A 20 degree decrease in the internal temperature of the ball would lower pressure by 1 PSI. Chemistry. Learn it.

    “But…but….the colts balls!”. The initial temperature of those balls may have been different. It doesn’t matter. Chemistry is chemistry.

    Pats balls on a wet 48 degree day would quickly lose temperature from the 70 degrees they were inflated at. And that is where teh 1 PSI difference comes from. Colts balls when pressure tested were probalby right off the bus and thus already outside temperature.

    “But…but…no other team hash ever had balls lose pressure!”……You don’t know that. No other team has ever had balls pressure tested mid game.

    This is so much like the movie Idiocracy, it’s scary.

    As an aside, if a ball loses 1 PSI WITHOUT losing temperture, how much air would have to be removed? 10%? 15%? 25%? The answer is about 3%. Yup, Brady is going to risk his reputation and his legacy to remove 3% of air from balls.

  95. I think the punishment should be that the NFL swaps the Colts and Dolphins into the AFC East and AFC South respectively. This will allow the Patriots to do unspeakable things to the Colts twice each season for years to come….

  96. larryfinfan says:
    Apr 6, 2015 10:44 AM
    When will everyone wake up…Roger [Kraft] Goodell is NOT going to go against the most influential owner and his main benefactor. The pasties, no matter what transpired will get nothing, save for a slap on the wrist, for cheating…again…

    Personally, I believe that Goodell should, in all good consciousness, issue some severe punishment, due to the propensity of that franchise, under BB, to push the limits of the rule book…

    But alas, Tom Terrific, Bill Belicheat and Mr. Kraft will get nothing compared to what they should get…

    They set the tone with Hotlanta and the Browns… Slap on the wrist for cheating…
    ———————————————————-

    I agree “if” the Wells found evidence of tampering with the footballs, the team that tampered should get the maximum penalty limit of the rule book ($25,000).

  97. it is interesting that the only ball that winds up in the hands of the colts is the only ball that was 2 lbs low…..

    BECAUSE THE COLTS LET THE AIR OUT THEN SAID ‘LOOK!!!!LOOK!!!!’

    the real question any colts fan should ask is why the pats completely abuse the colts every time they meet……ball inflation?? really??

    45-7
    42-20
    43-22
    59-24

    every time the colts with andrew luck have faced the pats, they have scored fewer points…..in 4 games, 10 INTs

    deflategate merely distracts from the fact that the colts are a bunch of posers playing in a poser division.

  98. The Zapruder film suggests there was more than one deflator.
    The Wells Commission is looking for a patsy

  99. chitowncolt says:
    Apr 6, 2015 1:33 PM

    “chitowncolt says:
    The question isn’t whether the Pats cheated. The question is who ordered it? ”

    The only one who seems like they cheated here was the former Jets employee now Colts GM who clearly deflated the 1 ball that was way under pressure.

    What are you and the other Pats haters going to do if the Colts are the ones penalized ?

    The evidence shows that 11 of the 12 balls were under-inflated–not just the one that the Colts got. Unless the Colts somehow intercepted 11 of the Pats’ 12 balls–and they didn’t–your argument doesn’t hold weight. I love how the Patriots defenders somehow think that by blaming the other guy, that will cause us all to forget that it was the Pats who cheated. Good strategy.
    ______________________________

    And multiple studies have shown the deflation could have been caused by atmospheric changes. Including one done by a CMU grad student that got a physicist that said it could not have happened naturally to admit a calculation error and change his position.

    So if, and I note if as we don’t know for sure…but if the ball the Colts intercepted was significantly lower than all the others as some have reported then it’s pretty reasonable to suspect Grigson ordered the Equip Mgr to pin a ball if they got a turnover.

    Indeed, we have all heard 11 of 12 balls were under the limit. But we don’t know by how much. But to ignore the CMU study is to choose your evidence selectively.

    On the other hand if all 11 of those balls were below the range of what could have occurred naturally then either the refs were lying about doing their job and properly checking them or a guy deflated them in the bathroom in 90 seconds.

    The reality is without knowing how much each ball was under by along with other key details anyone saying the Pats definitely cheated or the Colts definitely deflated the intercepted ball is clearly basing their opinion on personal bias.

  100. BB thumbs his nose of all this. He never cares about picks (non intended pun )

    And this is why he will always do this stuff until the ball really drops.

  101. kenberthiaume says:
    Apr 6, 2015 1:47 PM

    A 20 degree decrease in the internal temperature of the ball would lower pressure by 1 PSI. Chemistry. Learn it.

    “But…but….the colts balls!”. The initial temperature of those balls may have been different. It doesn’t matter. Chemistry is chemistry.

    Pats balls on a wet 48 degree day would quickly lose temperature from the 70 degrees they were inflated at. And that is where teh 1 PSI difference comes from. Colts balls when pressure tested were probalby right off the bus and thus already outside temperature.

    “But…but…no other team hash ever had balls lose pressure!”……You don’t know that. No other team has ever had balls pressure tested mid game.

    This is so much like the movie Idiocracy, it’s scary.

    As an aside, if a ball loses 1 PSI WITHOUT losing temperture, how much air would have to be removed? 10%? 15%? 25%? The answer is about 3%. Yup, Brady is going to risk his reputation and his legacy to remove 3% of air from balls.
    _________________________________

    You with your logic and science. Don’t you know that there is no place for your type of sorcery here!

  102. hakunamangata says:
    Apr 6, 2015 10:43 AM

    The lasting patriots legacy isn’t 4 championships in 15 years, it’s the rule changes they’ve created from cheating throughout all of them.

    Down vote all you want but just ask yourself;

    1. Can I name a signature game for Brady that was more important the Tuck Rule?

    2. How many rule changes and loopholes have had to be closed since 2001?

    ——————————

    I don’t quite get it… The tuck rule was called in many other games before and after that game. Even in the same season as the snow game. It was a rule in the rule book and it was called correctly. It’s been changed… but it took 10 years before it was changed. It happened many many times in that span. It was definitely a controversial call as it was close, but Woodson also chopped Brady in the head on that play, which would now be a penalty for sure. So I don’t know that it really matters much. That play didn’t cause a rule change though. You can’t say that a rule change 10 years later was caused by that play.

    As for any other plays that led to rule changes… a team that plays within the rules and finds ways to take advantage of them and outsmart other teams is also called a good team. That’s why there are things like play action passes, reverses, half back options, flea flickers, etc. Those are all meant to deceive and they are really smart when used at the right time.

  103. On the next ESPN 30 for 30: What if I told you that every super bowl win under a dynasty was tainted?

  104. If the Colts did do something and the was proven then those findings will never see the light of day.

    If the New England Patriots are cleared of all this nonsense (wasn’t it a somewhat close game at half and in the second half NE blew the doors off Indy)

    Seems to me the Indy Colts players acknowledged they got their hats handed to them you just have the GM seemingly cares more about the psi of a ball than the way his team stopped playing in the 4th quarter.

  105. Well, since the league took a 2016 pick from Atlanta for Noisegate, I would imagine that if the league took any picks from New England for Deflategate, it would be for the draft starting in 389 days from now, not 24 days from now.

  106. I like how all the Patriot haters have already convinced themselves of the cover up now that its been painfully obvious for weeks the Patriots not only did nothing wrong but were framed.

  107. The story didn’t track from the get go, the truth here is the Colts messed up!!! Had they any credible source on the team it wouldn’t have required a sting operation by idiotic NFL officials and execs!!!

  108. I hate the New England Patriots but I hope this is unfounded. If it’s true, I will begin to think of the in NFL as I think of the WWE.

  109. I hate the New England patriots but I hope this is unfounded. If it turns out to be true then I will think of the NFL the same way I think of the WWE…

  110. The Patriots are a first class organization with a great tradition of winning.

    It’s really a shame that these allegations of cheating are made over and over again. Even so called ‘Spygate’, an area where they did step outside the rules was essentially a procedural violation a far cry from any sort of true competitive advantage.

    At this point, we people refer to the Patriots cheating, its really a compliment as it indicates they don’t think their team could win as often as the Patriots do unless they cheated. It really says more about their team.

  111. When you put chum in the water all the sharks come out of and start a feeding frenzy. This all started when Brady called out the Ravens for not knowing the rule book. Harbaugh’s ego took a slap to the face so in turn he used the Colts to set up the Pats for the biggest smear campaign in NFL history. He knew exactly what would happen if he chummed the water with an accusation of cheating. Perception is reality And even when the Patriots are found innocent people will still perceive them to be guilty and will point to a cover up. Harbaugh’s plan worked perfectly except for the part when the Patriots won the super bowl and permanently extinguished the old ” haven’t won a thing since spy gate” . Just imagine how bad it would have been if the Pats lost.

  112. It will be interesting to see if the Patriots can actually win a Super Bowl by playing within the rules and spirit of the game. The sad thing for their legacy is they were probably good enough to win Super Bowls without all this scandle. Kraft will privately always be niggled knowing what everybody outside the Patriot way thinks of his team. Brilliant coach, brilliant QB but sadly not to be trusted.

  113. “The evidence shows that 11 of the 12 balls were under-inflated–not just the one that the Colts got. Unless the Colts somehow intercepted 11 of the Pats’ 12 balls–and they didn’t–your argument doesn’t hold weight.”

    Yup, 11 of the 12 we “a few ticks” under pressure and easily the result of temperature change and the effect it has on pressure. Its called science.

    The other ball, the one that was supposedly 2 psi under was the one the Colts intercepted and hid on their sidelines for 20+ minutes before summoning the league/officials. You know, the one the Colts management claimed the player who intercepted it told the coaches it felt soft and that later the player in a press conference pointed out that he never said any such thing to the coaches.

    Ie; the Colts lied bout what the player said in an attempt to cover up their shenanigans.

    Furthermore, its was pointed out that the Luck likes the Colts balls at 13.5 psi, the max allowed by the league and hence none were likely to lose pressure to the point of being under the 12.5 psi minimum. Brady likes them at 12.5 psi, the minimum allowed by the league. Which would cause every ball to be under pressure at least a little do to the temperature drop.

    So yes, my argument does hold water. The Colts deflated that one ball in a shabby and obvious attempt to frame the Pats. That seems very very clear.

  114. Funny Fact: Any football game played in cold weather were played with footballs deflated below regulation. The footballs played with during the ice bowl were potentially 3 to 4 psi under regulation.

    Scary Fact: Most Deflate gate supporters, including radio hosts (Felger & Mazz), have no idea that that is possible. And yes even possible in the Pats, Colts game.

  115. Krafts’ Yes-man won’t make a ruling until it’s too late to affect the draft this year.
    So it will apply to next years draft.
    Then the Pats will appeal.
    And by the time it’s all said and done, Kraft’s minions will have plea-bargained it down to a 6th rd pick in 2020 and a $1.50 fine.

  116. I don’t see what the big rush is. The Pats do not pick until 32 anyway.

    Why is it such a big deal whether they lose picks this year or next (if they lose picks at all)

    Personally I think the Pats did the dirty deed. Let them sweat about when the investigation is concluded. Make them come up with 2 or 3 different draft scenarios.

  117. Ideally the Pats would get draft picks from the Colts this year for the sleazy crap the Colts tried to pull, but getting Colts picks from next year will do.

  118. The Patriots will not be losing any picks over this….even if they find wrong doing, no way they want to taint the SB champs….if anything they will institute new rules and possible fine the club to give the appearance that they punished someone….this is looking more like the League trying to find a safe landing spot and move on with the new rules.

  119. It is absolutely incredible, did any of you read Aaron Rodgers on the subject? Did any of you read about the tampering memo sent to all teams after the Vikings-Panther tampering during the season. This collection of unscientific morons in the NFL hired Columbia and found out that he rule is a stupid rule. They cannot punish the Pats, because they previously sent the memo about the Vikings Panther tampering. So the ball boys in any game cannot do anything during the game, period. To find a violation, they would have to void the laws of physics, and every Tom, Dick and Harry has already performed the experiment (which is in line with the physics). So the NFL is trying to look professional, Goodell was probably looking forward to a big fine to take everyone’s mind off his inept handling of real controversies and he stepped on his __.

  120. tsuscrumhalf says:
    Apr 6, 2015 11:02 AM

    It’s taking longer because he uncovered a 10 year pattern of cheating by deflating balls. It’s not just a 1 game scandal. This is a very long history of tampering with game balls, trying to gain an unfair competitive advantage. Cheaters fear that they can’t win by playing it fair. Brady & Belicheck are the poster children for modern era cheating scandals. It’s sad that with that level of talent & determination, they feel the need to break the rules……..

    ———————-

    Representing an opinion as the truth is also called lying. Last I checked lying and cheating were closely related.

  121. C) The footballs were at the minimum standard to begin the game. There is no evidence that they were deflated. Fine the Patriots $25,000 to save face for the league.
    ===
    Wrong. If the balls were handed to the referee and he approved them, it doesn’t matter what the balls were at or what they became afterwards. The referee is furnished with an electric pump (and presumably a needle) to get the ball to what he wants it to be. If a team requests it set to 12.5 PSIg, and the referee complies, the team cannot put more air into the ball once the ball gets cold. That would be tampering.

    In this case, the proper outcome would be a rule/procedure change or clarification.

  122. Colts, Ravens and the NFL office want to watch some more episodes of Mad Men first so they can perhaps figure out how to spin this disaster of THEIR making.

  123. The mistake Kraft made was not going for blood against Goodell, Kinsel, Grigson, & Colts.

    Kraft should of had his own team of lawyers on this immediately after finding out that this was set up by Kinsel & Gigson.

  124. Assuming Kraft knows more about where this might stand than most, a potentially key moment was Kraft’s press conference in Arizona at owners’ meetings a few weeks ago when he…

    1) indicated that there was “no smoking gun” as it pertains to this investigation

    2) was more conciliatory toward Goodell relative to January/February; if he thought hammer was potentially coming down on this, then I doubt he is that gracious or speaks that glowingly about Belichick and Brady (“his guys”).

    Also, Brady and Belichick had their interviews with Wells in March. Brady is not acting like a guy with something to be worried about. In contrast, he seems as carefree as ever.

  125. A lot of crybaby Grigson types here will go down with their hero when he is cuffed for what he did. There will be blame for sure, but just not on the Patriots like these crybabies are praying for. Then it will be impossible for the Patriot haters to claim conspiracy when the spotlight turns to the Colts organization as the cause for this fiasco. Perfect!

  126. ” … especially given the strong possibility that one or more employees of the league office will feel compelled to find wrongdoing in order to justify the entire excursion.”

    So much for “integrity of the game”.

  127. I can’t believe that these NE Cheaters fans think the rest of us are so stupid, that we believe their fairy tales!!

    The team gets caught red handed at the game with under inflated footballs. Other teams balls were regulation PSI. So the great mystery is, “How did only the Cheaters balls get underinflated?”

    The NE Cheaters have a World wide historical reputation, for using any conceivable means to win. In fact, every one of their SB wins are tainted. Everyone knows about the “snow job and the Tom terrific tuck rule.”

    So, the real mystery is “How did NE Cheater fans become so stupid?”

  128. Lol at the guy who thinks the Patriots are first class and have a winning tradition. Only Patriots fans think they’re classy and the Patriots were irrelevant before Brady, that’s not a wild tradition.

  129. I’m rather disappointed…. I figured that this post would have over 200 comments on it by now… Come on whiners you’re really letting me down….you’re efforts to cry about anything Patriots related seems somewhat deflated!! Bwaaaa haaa haaa haaa!!
    Go Pats!!!

  130. What the hell is wrong with you haters? It’s alarming to read how much hatred you have for NE based on how little YOU really know. It says more about you, really, than NE, Kraft, Belichick or Brady.

    And for some of you nitwits, what’s so hard to understand about how temperature change will produce a change in pressure? It’s elementary folks; no PhD required.

  131. The Hatred for the PATRIOTS has its connection to the Lawless One in the dimwitthouse.

    That spirit that is now persuasive in the usa has severe hatred for the things that made this nation great – God, Family, 1st & 2nd Amendments, zero tolerance for dictators & Big Brother Government.

  132. I used to get to soooo worked up reading all the hate. Face it…they love to push buttons. Don’t give them the satisfaction. Just smile and give them the single finger wave.
    #4Lombardi’s
    #TB12 GOAT
    #One for the thumb

  133. Feel sorry for so many uneducated people like @J Huber above.. “Come on man” wake up and smell the coffee…

    To think all these people seeing their written comments think the footballs of the Colts were within regulation limits and the Patriots were not, means the Patriots cheated??? It’s actually the complete opposite, a 20 degree difference or more (exactly 20 degrees) going from 72 degrees room temperature to 52 degrees outside (or below) causes any football in the history of man to be outside of the NFL’s prescribed range 12.5 -13.5 psi. This is 100% scientific fact, not opinion, not hyberbole, not some fan talking, it is just what happens to the air pressure of a football due to the laws of physics. So the real question is why were the Colts footballs still within NFL limits outside at halftime when it was 45 degrees out and raining, that is not possibile, unless something else happened to them (like keeping them warm near a propane heater)?

    And for all those of you who think the Patriots cheated, get this: The fact that the Colts footballs were still with in 12.5 to 13.5 psi when it was 45 degrees out and raining is a physical impossibility if they started out in that range at room temperature, unless they somehow tampered with the footballs or kept them warm on the sidelines, which is against league rules.

    The only ones with the real egg on their faces, is the NFL/referees who measured footballs at halftime when it was 45 degrees out and raining, and expected them to be the same as they were at room temperature 2 hours and 15 minutes before the game, is not possible for them to be the same.

    Hopefully the best OUTCOME of the investigation will require the NFL to change its rules regarding football pressure regulations, the NFL cannot have a rule regarding football air pressure, unless it also has a rule about the temperature and atmospheric conditions of which the measurements are taken.

    Come on people, its not that hard

  134. What’s this? YOu Patriot haters STILL THINK YOUR TEAM BELONGS ON THE SAME FIELD AS THE WORLD CHAMPS?????

    BAAAWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAJAJAJAJAJAJAHAHAHAHAJAJAJA

  135. Look at the silly Patriot haters. Desperately trying to find reasons why the World Champions whoop their team every year. 🙂

    Aww. How adorable. 🙂 Like puny little chihuahuas yipping at the big dog on the block!

  136. You can bet that Kraft had his own lawyers and investigators as well…

    This has just taken too long…If NE was guilty of anything, IMO, then there would have been all kinds of leaks by now…I think the NFL has some big front office and game personnel problems.

  137. League took so muck flack for handing down Spygate penalties 3 days before all evidence was looked at/in front of them that they will continue to tiptoe this one. And then of course destroying evidence on the spot in Foxboro didn’t score them any points either. They know their decision on this is being watched closely and therefore they are not going to do anything hasty.
    No way NFL can have the black eye by suspending BB and not have him coaching on the sideline for Thursday night season opener ,even if they were responsible for any of this, which is doubtful IMO.
    I think the Colts are the ones who will get fined. Too much of a witch hunt from the get-go.

  138. kbknauer says: Apr 7, 2015 9:35 AM

    How is tuck rule cheating? Agree or disagree with the officials call all you want but Brady didn’t cheat.

    ——————————–

    The tuck rule play was karma paying back the Raiders for Ben Dreith. Plain and simple. Roughing the Passer was the worst call in the history of professional sports. Dreith stole what would have been the Patriots first Super Bowl championship away from them and handed the opportunity to the Raiders.

    If I’m Raider fan I just smile, nod and let it go. Like I said….paid in full.

  139. whitetrash69 says: Apr 6, 2015 7:06 PM

    *winning tradition

    ——–

    Nope. The Steelers have the only asterisk in the NFL. 🙂

    5 by cheating, 1 from refs. Ouch!!!

  140. They don’t want to punish the fraudulent Colts. They never have. Getting the rules changed to benefit Manning’s stats. Fake crowd noise. Tanking to get Luck. Irsay abusing drugs and driving while doing it. Harboring fake gangster Harrison for so many years. Framing another team to hurt the integrity of the game. I mean this is a franchise and fanbase that has skated forever.

  141. My guess is Bob Kraft is less than thrilled watching the worst owner in sports and his oafish GM intentionally try to slander and tarnish his multi-billion dollar investment.
    Suffice to say he won’t be taking this lying down. Irsay and Lurch better watch their p’s and q’s going forward because, as the saying goes, it will be a dish served cold.

  142. lolatpatshaters says:
    Apr 7, 2015 10:12 AM

    The tuck rule play was karma paying back the Raiders for Ben Dreith. Plain and simple. Roughing the Passer was the worst call in the history of professional sports. Dreith stole what would have been the Patriots first Super Bowl championship away from them and handed the opportunity to the Raiders.

    If I’m Raider fan I just smile, nod and let it go. Like I said….paid in full.
    =================================

    Not paid enough for me. The missed call on Woodson’s hit to Brady’s head was just as bad as the tuck rule call.

    In regards to the 76 playoff game, the “Ben Dreith Bowl”, Dreith’s call on Sugarbear Hamilton was just as bad as his noncalls on Phil Villapiano’s play. In a post game interview Villapiano stated that he was holding the Pat’s Russ Francis all game long after seeing that the refs were not going to call it. He even broke Francis’s nose with a cheap shot elbow to his head, again, with the ref’s blessing.

    A “debt” not fully repaid yet, but I really do enjoy the “younger” Raiders’ fans carrying on about the tuck rule game. Images of Lonie Paxton’s snow angel at the end of that game caps that event.

  143. In regards to the 76 playoff game, the “Ben Dreith Bowl”, Dreith’s call on Sugarbear Hamilton was just as bad as his noncalls on Phil Villapiano’s play. In a post game interview Villapiano stated that he was holding the Pat’s Russ Francis all game long after seeing that the refs were not going to call it. He even broke Francis’s nose with a cheap shot elbow to his head, again, with the ref’s blessing.

    ——
    Yup good point. Very true. That was typical for them.

    I bet just about all of these clowns hee hawing about cheating have no idea what cheating really was. Those Raiders lived and breathed cheating. That is what they did and that is who they were. “Cheating is Encouraged”. Stickum. Cheap shots including hits to a guys throat. You name it. Not to mention Jack Tatum. Despicable.

    The Tuck rule play was great. For that to happen to THAT team…. Hollywood couldn’t have written the script any better than that.

  144. Draft picks? It’s a $25,000 fine, for a rule that is never enforced… Oh it was the Patriots that allegedly did it??? We should probably blow it out of proportion, drag it out, and play the haters like a fiddle. That way we get a nice distraction from the women and children beaters. Not to mention the Colts player that landed on the commissioners exempt list a couple days before the AFC championship facing a felony rape charge. Brilliant NFL. Well played. Why bother releasing any findings ever? Then folks would have to think about worrying about things that actually matter.

  145. I swear.. The vast majority of football fans have bought into ESPN’s hack reporting.

    Nobody knows if the footballs were deflated, and if so, by how much? Maybe 4 of the 12 footballs were deflated or perhaps the only deflated football was the one submitted by the Colts.

    Don’t get your anti-Patriots panties in a bunch. Let’s wait for the Ted Wells report before casting judgment.

  146. The Patriots Penalties: loss of 1st round pick in 2015 Draft, Forfeiture of compensatory picks awarded to them in the 2015 Draft and the 2016 Draft, Tom Brady suspended for first 4 games of the 2015 season, Patriots fined $100,000, and Robert Kraft banned from attending any home games at Gillette Stadium during the 2015 season.

    NO MORE SUPER BOWLS FOR BELICHICK! NEXT!

  147. Right down to the freakin air pressure in the footballs, every angle and detail is covered. that’s a total commitment to winning and I enjoy watching every Sunday, GO Pats

  148. What I find appalling is the fact that tampering on the part of the Jets has been ignored. Revis was a key contributor to New England winning the Super Bowl and had to deal with extending a contract with Revis after Woody publically announce that he desired Revis to be a Jet. Does no one understand the position that this meddling created for negotiating an extension with Revis? Inflate Gate is a joke in comparison to thus issue and is taking on an “inflated” position for the NFL. Goodell needs to award the Pats the Jets first round pick in the 2015 NFL draft. As for a determination by Wells, where are the balls?

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