Russell Wilson could go year-to-year under franchise tag

AP

On the surface, Russell Wilson’s comments about playing football and baseball look like a negotiating ploy with the Seahawks.  But idle chatter regarding an unrealistic two-sport career won’t significantly change Seattle’s valuation of their fourth-year quarterback.  Or Wilson’s of himself.

It could be that the two sides can’t come to an agreement, with Wilson wanting to be paid like a top quarterback and the Seahawks aiming for something more team friendly — especially since quarterbacks taken in the middle to later rounds of the draft often pounce on a good-but-not-great offer for a second contract, since it’s still far more money than they’ve ever gotten.

Wilson, who has carried the injury risk for the last three years, ultimately may be willing to take $1.5 million for 2015 and force the Seahawks to use the franchise tag in 2016.  Seattle would have to apply the exclusive tag or risk a quarterback-desperate team gladly giving up two first-round picks for him.  And that could put the franchise tender between $20 and $25 million for 2016.

Then, Wilson could choose to go year to year, securing a 20-percent raise for 2017 and a 44-percent raise for 2018.  Even if the Seahawks choose to tag Wilson a third time, he’d be 30 when he hits the market in 2019 — and plenty of quarterbacks are currently making gigantic money well beyond the birthday that has become the chariot-to-a-pumpkin moment for players at other positions.

Yes, Wilson would have to continue to carry the risk of a career-ending injury.  But how many quarterbacks ever have truly career-ending injuries?  The greater risk is a career-limiting injury, like the torn ACL from which Robert Griffin III’s game has never really recovered.

Wilson is different.  He knows how to avoid contact and, more importantly, how to absorb it.  If he’s willing to continue to assume the financial risk of an unlikely injury that would limit or end his NFL career, Wilson could make a ton of money — either by playing the franchise-tag game or by getting the Seahawks to give him the kind of offer that would dissuade him from playing the franchise-tag game.

80 responses to “Russell Wilson could go year-to-year under franchise tag

  1. I’m not the least bit impressed by the chatter. If you’re going to do something, just do it. Don’t talk about it.

  2. Wilson’s new deal will be done within the next 2 months. Talk about random stuff like this is nonsense. Remember when people thought the Ravens were gonna trade Flacco to the Browns before he got his new contract? Come on people. Franchise QB gets a big contract. It’s a done deal

  3. Strange. Doesn’t sound like the negotiating approach of a dude who wants to give his team the financial ability to keep playing in and winning Super Bowls.

  4. As not a Seahawks fan this is great to hear. I was starting to get worried Wilson was going to give them a hometown discount. Once the qb starts dominating the salary cap, winning becomes exponentially more difficult. Here’s to Wilson milking Seattle to be made the highest paid qb in the league.

  5. especially since quarterbacks taken in the middle to later rounds of the draft often pounce on a good-but-not-great offer for a second contract, since it’s still far more money than they’ve ever gotten.
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    Really? Do you have any data on that? I think the reason they don’t get great offers may be because quarterbacks drafted in the middle to later rounds usually aren’t very successful.

  6. “Seattle would have to apply the exclusive tag or risk a quarterback-desperate team gladly giving up two first-round picks for him”

    … you mean a team with a stellar defense and run game. I am not alone in thinking he wouldn’t be able to carry a team, a-la Brady or P. Manning.

  7. Seadderal’s avoided the injury bug for awhile now, the law of averages says that’s about to come to an end. FACT.

  8. I don’t think his comments sound like a negotiating ploy at all–just an honest statement that he would love to play both sports. Then it reads that Wilson could “…make a ton of money–either by playing the franchise-tag game or getting the Seahawks to give him the kind of money that would dissuade him from playing the franchise-tag game.”

    It seems that sports writers (and many of the fans) have become so cynical that they can’t imagine the possibility of people not playing any games. Some people really do deal with one another straightforwardly and in honesty–no games, no ploys. I think in Paul Allen, John Schneider, and Russell Wilson, you have some straight shooters.

  9. Russell Wilson is no dummy and has been making calculations both On an Off the field since his last two years of college football. Just like “ON” the field RW will adapt and take what the system gives him.

  10. Come on, is there any real doubt that Wilson will eventually be set for life financially one way or another?

  11. Russell Wilson is punk. A pure system QB who couldn’t complete one pass for nearly an entire half. Pats exposed for him the fraud he was. Take your money before you get exposed again…

  12. If anyone thinks the Seahawks brass and Wilson are having disagreements or aren’t on the same page, you’re fooling yourself. Wishful thinking from Seahawk haters.

  13. Speculation is all this is and not one quote or even inference to be gleaned by any comments made by either camp…….

    Give it time…..it will be worked out.

  14. Maybe Seattle’s braintrust is smarter than we think. 5 of Wilson’s last 40 passes were INT’s. They struggled to beat Green Bay, despite being at home (the magic of Century Link is wearing off). Despite what so called pundits say, it’s highly arguable that they’re still the best team in the conference. We all know every NFC playoff game could’ve gone either way. As far as the team goes, they know they’re either going to have to pay the defense or pay one guy on offense (that being the QB).

  15. Seattle obviously feels like Wilson is the best QB on the field however Tarvaris Jackson could run the same offense and is more gifted athletically. Seattle sent a message when they paid Lynch and not Wilson first .

  16. The Hawks are not gonna look a gift horse in the mouth. He is the face of the franchise. He has leadership skills that are hard to find. Poise that cannot be taught. This article is pure speculation under the guise of fact.

  17. I don’t really see Seattle not locking him up sooner rather than later. I don’t think Seatle fans should stress his contract situation, no-one is letting qbs walk nowadays.

  18. The Seahawks are screwed once they sign him but they deserve it, they played their part in making Wilson look much better than he is.

    He’s not very good, but he’s about to be paid like he is.

  19. Yadda, yadda, yadda. RW is a game manager…..who just happens to have the best 3 years ever by an NFL QB.

    Seattle won’t beat the best offense the NFL has ever seen in the SB. Say what? They blew them out! How’d in the heck did they do that?….well, okay, Seattle surely won’t return for the 2015 playoffs. Oh darn….they returned as the first back to back SB contender in a decade and if not for a coaching blunder they likely would have repeated.

    How do you know you’re on top? The envy noise machine with their chronic and constantly wrong predictions just keep on churning out the same old rehashed stuff that has yet to become reality. If you can’t beat a team competitively then wishing and hoping for a Seattle team demise is all you got!

    Keep on wish in’ and hop in’ haters….lHow’s that been working out for ya!?

  20. “I love Wilson’s character and game, but has anyone who has ever thrown the game losing INT to lose a Super Bowl gotten a bigger pass than him?”

    That’s hilarious. Especially from an ungrateful Pats fan.

    First, the play should never had been called. Everyone knows that, even Pats fans.

    Second, RW threw the ball without knowing Lockett, the 3 string receiver was going to run an inadequate route and lolly gag his way along the route allowing the defender to be in a better position to catch the ball than Lockett. How many errant passes to the golden boy throw that were intercepted in that SB that were potential game changers? Oh, one more than RW?

    Be grateful Lynch didn’t have the opportunity to stuff the ball down the Pats throats for a half yard and give the Pats their 3rd straight back to back to back SB loss already. QB gets a pass on that call. It wasn’t Wilson’s call that placed Seattle in that position. Pats were lucky they drafted Brady, otherwise they’d still be looking to win a SB. Focus on your own team who has their clock ticking on their QB…Seattle is still a young team. On to next year. The past is done.

  21. If I had an extremely low I.Q. I would probably think RW3 wasn’t a current top tier QB with the potential to be one of the best of all time. Lucky for me my I.Q. is above 3 so that’s not the case.

  22. Wilson has the best feet-first slide of any quarterback in the NFL. I assume he learned this from baseball. I believe this to be his foremost skill in avoiding injury. RGIII couldn’t master it (it was cringeworthy) and Tom Brady knows when to abort and just get down before contact.

  23. Well, let’s recap…

    You’ve suggested they’ll get Vick as a back-up.
    You’ve implied he’ll go to baseball.
    Now you imply he’ll be getting franchised instead of signed to an extension.

    I’m guessing you can’t even find Seattle on a map. Typical national media.

  24. tangfish says:
    Apr 12, 2015 11:03 PM
    Strange. Doesn’t sound like the negotiating approach of a dude who wants to give his team the financial ability to keep playing in and winning Super Bowls.
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    Wilson has been underpaid as far as starting QBs go for a while now. For most of his career his back ups made more than him. I think he’s given the Seahawks enough of a discount and should go for every penny coming his way.

  25. patriotinvasion says:
    Apr 12, 2015 11:48 PM
    I love Wilson’s character and game, but has anyone who has ever thrown the game losing INT to lose a Super Bowl gotten a bigger pass than him?
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    I think you have to put everything in context to understand why Wilson isn’t getting much blame.

    1. The Seahawks had just won a Superbowl the year before. If they were going for their first superbowl the pass would have been viewed differently.

    2. The play call was so dumbfounding and risky and as a result that is what everyone focused on. With the ball 1 yard away with little time in the 4th quarter the Seahawks could have ran, thrown a fade to the corner of the end zone where either their guy catches it or it goes out of bounds. Instead they threw a slant into the heart of the defense that required absolute pinpoint accuracy and timing in order to be successful. This is probably the biggest reason Wilson escaped scrutiny.

  26. kylexitron says:
    Apr 13, 2015 12:34 AM

    If anyone thinks the Seahawks brass and Wilson are having disagreements or aren’t on the same page, you’re fooling yourself. Wishful thinking from Seahawk haters.

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    The brass are happy paying him less than the punter… He wants top 5 pay.

    Those pages aren’t in even the same book, in the same library, in the same city.

  27. Disrespectful, clearly should be the highest paid QB. He should garner 30 million per year and 90 million guaranteed. Two SBs and he’s treated this way.

  28. He’s the mini Joe Flacco. The numbers look pedestrian at times but all he does in win in the big moments. Had he not gone against the greatest coach of our era he maybe looking at 2 rings right now. It’s smart money to give him a 5 year deal in the $80M range. Not allow him to make $50M gauranteed over just two seasons. Now THAT doesnt make any sense.

  29. Seattle’s GM is smart enough to know you don’t pay a game manager top tier money; especially if you want to stay competitive.

  30. I will not pretend to understand much of the financial side in the NFL.

    Is this a benefit or major blow to the Seattle Seahawks to continue franchise tagging Russell Wilson?

  31. I’d consider seeing what trade market is available for Wilson. If Tampa or Tennessee are willing to part with their first round pick this year plus some… then why not trade him.

    No disrespect meant towards Wilson, but the Seahawks are more of a team than just a decent QB. Use that cap space elsewhere, and get another young QB on a rookie contract for then next 4-5 years.

  32. Wilson is a good but not great QB.
    The one huge bargaining chip he has is 6-8 teams are desperate for QBs. They are forced to play scrubs like Geno Smith.

    Would they be willing to pay up for a decent QB, without having to invest any first round picks, or go through some busts, wasting 2 years along the way?

    The thing Wilson needs to ask himself is “Would you rather make XXX and play in Seattle, or would you rather make XXX + 15% and play for the (Raiders, Jaguars, Jets, Browns, ….)”

    How much will that cost/gain in endorsements?
    What about career satisfaction?
    Would you rather retire with 150 MM and 2 super bowl rings and be on a winning team, or would you rather play on a weak team and never sniff the play offs?

  33. tinbender2000 says:
    Apr 12, 2015 11:18 PM

    Seadderal’s avoided the injury bug for awhile now, the law of averages says that’s about to come to an end. FACT.

    Sometimes I wonder why people take the time to post if they don’t even follow the sport.

    Seattle led the NFL with players put on IR last year.

    As for Wilson, it took Brady 8 seasons to exceed the worst season QB rating of Wilson so far through three years.

    The GOAT through three years as a NFL QB.

    And that’s with Doug Baldwin as his #1 and not counting his rushing stats.

  34. RW can make 12-15 mil and get carried to the playoffs for 5 seasons or he can make 20+ and watch the defense crumble around his cap hit.

    It’ll get worse when the NFL stops hyping them non-stop and the fanbase disappears.

  35. The guy’s a proven winner and is squeaky clean off the field. Any team would be proud to have him as the face of their franchise. Pay the man.

  36. I would think that some teams would be willing to give up 2 first round picks for him. The Seahawks won’t let that option become available.

  37. I’d say no sport writer could possibly be this stupid…..
    but clearly I’d be wrong.

    Under the new collective bargaining agreement, you can only franchise a player twice, the 1st time, he gets the average of the top 5 players at his position.

    The 2nd time, he gets 20% more.

    Or hadn’t your realized that?

  38. Wilson should just play out his existing contract and refused to sign another one with the cheap Seahawks. Then Wilson can force the Seahawks to trade him to a team who will pay him what he wants.

    If they trade him to a cheap team, Wilson can just play out the contract and then sign with the Cowboys or Jets, whoever will throw him the most money.

    In any case, Wilson should just buy his own insurance against a career ending injury and then play out his current contract and walk away from the Seahawks to a boatload of money from a team that appreciates his greatness.

  39. I say waive Wilson and put the money into the defensive scheme…. That is what won the Superbowl anyway and what got them back to the superbowl… With a little extra help on that D they wouldnt even need a QB…. They could put any 3rd rounder in there and win championships..

  40. What are so many people hating on Wilson? As a Pats fan, I would rather have Brady at the helm of my team, but how many fans can actually say they would not rather have Wilson than their current QB? With the exception of Pats, GB, Steelers, and Ravens, what other teams would not upgrade by replacing their existing QB with Wilson?

  41. Love DangeRuss but something that allot of people are not thinking about is another big possibility here. I would not be surprised to see Wilson play for peanuts this year and get traded next year. Just think about how this front office does business. Yeah Russ has been great but lets face it, there are allot of decent QBs out there who could run Seattles offensive scheme. I have never looked at Russ as a game manager but honestly keeping the Defense beefed up and the depth deep, you could put a half way decent scrambling QB at the helm and still have a championship team for next to nothing. Do not be surprised to see Seattle pick up another QB in the later rounds or trade up after the draft. It may sound crazy, but there is one thing we have come to expect from the Seattle front office is they make moves that you dont expect. Stay cheap and stay young, that’s how you keep competing year to year, back to back.

  42. fanme57 says:
    Apr 13, 2015 10:20 AM
    I’d say no sport writer could possibly be this stupid…..
    but clearly I’d be wrong.

    Under the new collective bargaining agreement, you can only franchise a player twice, the 1st time, he gets the average of the top 5 players at his position.

    The 2nd time, he gets 20% more.

    Or hadn’t your realized that?
    __________________________________

    He did realize that. He is talking about proceeding on the Franchise Tag for 2 years at most and only if they are unable to create long term contract both sides feel is fair.

  43. They’re not hating on Wilson, they’re trying to depress his market in the hopes their team can pick him up.

  44. The possibility of Wilson using baseball as leverage is non existent. Wilson is a borderline prospect. who hit in the low .200s with very little power in the minors and only a little better than that in college with aluminum bats. If Wilson were to walk away from football right now and pursue baseball, he would have to start out in A ball and it likely would take him 3 years to make the majors if he were to make it at all.

  45. tinbender2000 says:
    Seadderal’s avoided the injury bug for awhile now, the law of averages says that’s about to come to an end. FACT.
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    They had 19 guys on IR last year, 2nd most in the NFL, including 4 starters. They also had 3/4ths of LOB playing hurt in the Super Bowl and also lost 2 other starters during the game.

    And they still should have won. FACT.

  46. patriotinvasion says:

    I love Wilson’s character and game, but has anyone who has ever thrown the game losing INT to lose a Super Bowl gotten a bigger pass than him?
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    Yeah. Peyton Manning.

  47. Russell Wilson:
    #2 all time QB rating for regular season.
    #5 all time QB Rating postseason.
    One of only 3 players to throw 50 TD passes his 1st 2 seasons (along with Peyton Manning and Dan Marino).
    84 TD passes his 1st 3 seasons, more than Tom Brady.

    Most wins in 1st 3 seasons, ever.
    Most wins in the last 3 seasons.
    Most playoff wins in the last 3 seasons.

    Yeah, he’s average allright…

  48. It’s pretty unreal that Wilson has led them to two straight SBs and he’s going to make $1.5 million this season.

    I can understand Seattle holding off on that big QB contract for as long as possible, because once that’s done it makes it much harder for the team to sign and/or keep quality players.

  49. They had 19 guys on IR last year, 2nd most in the NFL, including 4 starters. They also had 3/4ths of LOB playing hurt in the Super Bowl and also lost 2 other starters during the game.

    And they still should have won. FACT.

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    Imagine that team if the QB had even a top 10 hit instead of 900k.

    You can cover a LOT of slack when underpaying your QB can get you multiple extra starters.

  50. He’s still under contract. If seaBrass is smart, they will play him through the season on the discount and see how he does this season, then reward him accordingly. It would be a fiscally dumb move to open the bank for him at this point, especially after he just dropped the ball the last time he touched it.

  51. seahawkboymike says:
    Apr 13, 2015 12:11 PM
    tinbender2000 says:
    Seadderal’s avoided the injury bug for awhile now, the law of averages says that’s about to come to an end. FACT.
    ——————————————————
    They had 19 guys on IR last year, 2nd most in the NFL, including 4 starters. They also had 3/4ths of LOB playing hurt in the Super Bowl and also lost 2 other starters during the game.

    And they still should have won. FACT.
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    That’s just faulty thinking. If Seattle should have won that game, then they should not have been in the Super Bowl. FACT

  52. It is interesting that many Seahawks fans still complain that they lost superbowl xl due to the refs but state that the refs had no role in them beating the pack. Hypocrite much?

  53. Wilson divorced his wife in preparation for this which shows what he feels he is worth. Drew Brees is still happily married. I guess Russell can’t totally emulate his idol.

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