Brady declined to give Griffin pointers

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Last year, as Washington and New England prepared to engage in joint practices, quarterback Robert Griffin III expressed a strong interest in talking to Patriots quarterback Tom Brady.

“If I get a chance to sit down and talk to him, I’d love to, just to pick his brain,” Griffin said at the time.

But Griffin learned that Brady has no interest in allowing his brain to be picked.  Griffin tells Jeff Darlington of NFL Media that Brady declined.

Not until my career is done, Rob,” Brady told Griffin.  (Of course, there’s a chance Griffin’s will be done first.)

Griffin still learned plenty from watching Brady and the Patriots.

“What you do learn from watching [Brady] — and then watching the Patriots organization — you get a big-picture look at it,” Griffin told Darlington.  “Man, honestly, they operate like a high school football team,” Griffin told Darlington.  “You remember in high school, how the coach calls everybody up, everybody runs up, gets on a knee and looks at the coach like what he is saying is the most important thing in the world?  That’s how the Patriots are.

“They’re attentive.  They run on and off the field.  They run after practice.  They do what they have to do — and everyone understands, whether they like it or not, this is what it takes to win championships.  And they won the championship.

“We can’t ignore that.  We don’t need to mimic them or try to be like them.  We need to create our own culture — but we can learn from some of those things.”

Yes, they can.  But why didn’t they learn from those things last August?  Even though the Patriots had yet to win the 2014 championship, they’d become one of the elite franchise in the NFL.  Griffin surely didn’t want to pick Brady’s brain for the purposes of incorporating those changes in 2015; why didn’t Griffin and his teammates instantly implement the things they saw from the Patriots?

At a deeper level, Griffin’s comments could be viewed as (another) passive-aggressive dig at the coaching staff, since they’re the ones who need to create an environment in which players acts as if what the coach is saying “is the most important thing in the world.”

So Griffin was either subtly calling out his teammates or the coaching staff, or both.  Either way, the effort to become like the Patriots probably includes adopting a media strategy that doesn’t entail the quarterback subtly criticizing the other players or the coaches.

95 responses to “Brady declined to give Griffin pointers

  1. Funny stuff, Tom. As if imparting knowledge or tips is akin to providing RGIII with the mystical secrets of life. I try hard to remember that in the whole scheme of things, what these guys do is meaningless.

  2. Griffin simply wants his elite talent surrounded by elite coaches and players that will help him and not hold him back.

    AmIRight logical?

  3. Thing is, that culture works for the Patriots because Tom Brady buys in and acts like one of the guys instead of a prima donna. Maybe RGIII should start there?

  4. RGIII…. just stop talking to the media unless you have to. If you do have to, then just say cliché things like, we need to work hard, take it one practice at a time. Stuff like that.

    It may be less interesting, but without football the media won’t want to talk to you anyway. Focus on that!

  5. cajunaise says:
    Apr 21, 2015 10:29 AM

    Manning would have let him.

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    Brady 4

    Archie 0
    Peyton 1
    Eli 2
    ————
    Mannings 3

    Brady > Mannings

  6. As a Dolphins fan I hate the Pats, Brady and Belichek but like those who spew hatred towards them, would take BB and Tom as the Dolphins coach and QB without a second thought.

  7. “Well Robert, it’s really easy… You just put the air needle in the little black hole like this see… Then listen for a little bit of air coming out of the ball… Squeeze it to test to your liking but be sure you don’t go to flat or you know… I’m not sure what they call it now but something like… Oh yeah… Like cheating or something like that… So Robert, you get it? You’ll pass like a pro… Hell I’ve been doing that for 15 years…and the added benefit Robert, is that your running backs will love it too.. They will hardly, if ever, fumble the ball. So, any more tips you need Robert? I have some great video tips for you guy too!!! ”
    😊😊😊

  8. “Manning would have let him.”

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    I must be missing all those QB seminars Manning has been running for young quarterbacks…

  9. michaeldshea says:
    Apr 21, 2015 10:34 AM

    Thing is, that culture works for the Patriots because Tom Brady buys in and acts like one of the guys instead of a prima donna. Maybe RGIII should start there?

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    It also helps that Tom Brady belongs to a team whose owner knows how to stay out of the way and not be buddy-buddy with certain players, allowing them to get away with things others can’t, undermining the coaching staff, and creating division in the locker room. This team is in the toilet and it’s going to be there for a long time!

  10. Didn’t realize it was Brady’s obligation to do so… Besides Brady already a great judge of character knew it would be a waist of his time…

  11. bullcharger says:
    Apr 21, 2015 10:36 AM
    cajunaise says:
    Apr 21, 2015 10:29 AM

    Manning would have let him.

    —————–

    Brady 4

    Archie 0
    Peyton 1
    Eli 2
    ————
    Mannings 3

    Brady > Mannings
    _________________________________

    Secretary for the 49ers in the 80s – 4 rings

  12. Here’s at least one reason WHY the Redskins struggled so much compared to the Patriots: Belichick is a Hall of Fame Beast — and Jay Gruden is NONE of that.

  13. Brady just didn’t want to have RGIII throw him under the bus as well when RGIII did what he wanted not what he was told.

  14. “nolasoxfan2012 says:
    Apr 21, 2015 10:58 AM
    “Manning would have let him.”
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    I must be missing all those QB seminars Manning has been running for young quarterbacks…
    ======================================
    Ask Johnny Manziel about Manning’s football camps. I’m sure he has fond memories about the Mannings.

  15. nolasoxfan2012 says:

    I must be missing all those QB seminars Manning has been running for young quarterbacks…

    **

    You mean the Manning Passing Academy?

    It’s very well-known.

  16. Having the league tweak rules to protect you and prop you up is hard to teach. Also, did anyone really expect Brady to spill the beans about the hundreds of cheating tactics he employed over his career? RG3 should approach a a QB that has actually won a Super Bowl with asterisks, like Drew Brees.

  17. Maybe the Patriots did things differently before Brady became their QB, because they sure as heck weren’t winning anything before Brady got there. If RG3 thinks the Patriots success has something to do with running at practice, the Redskins should just cut him right now and get it over with. This guy has absolutely no clue.

  18. Knowing that if you don’t do your job or demand a huge salary you’ll get shipped off to the Redskins or Jets is what motivates Patriots players so much in the first place.

  19. “well Rob, when you have some success, people are going to hate on you. you need to tune them out. and the more successful you are, the more they’re gonna hate. simple fact of sports”

  20. As a Dolphins fan I have nothing but respect for Tom. Watching him over the years I can’t not respect him. Look back at all the close loses and you won’t hear him blame his team. Sure he was upset but did you hear him throw Wes under the bus? Sure he fires up his team and they all look up to him. Use to hate Brady in his early years. I can’t stand the Pats fans but I have no issue with Brady. Robert on the other hand is a turd.

  21. I don’t think this says anything about Brady, one way or the other. Brian Hoyer has always had good things to say about Brady as a mentor. A QB on another team is an entirely different thing.

  22. “Funny stuff, Tom. As if imparting knowledge or tips is akin to providing RGIII with the mystical secrets of life.”

    corvetteman6: Why help an opponent? That guy is trying to beat you, and the tips you share could be what ends up costing you a championship.

  23. cajunaise says:
    Apr 21, 2015 10:45 AM

    Bullcharger: you dodged the point because you had to.

    Manning would have let him.

    —————

    I dodged the point to be funny and because it was bad.

    a) You have no idea that what RGIII said is even true, or what he asked Brady. It could have been a joke in passing and it makes for a great story about how the Patriots organization works, which was his point.

    b) You don’t know Peyton Manning and you don’t know what he would do or say in any situation.

  24. RUFUS CROWMARTIE: a 5 tool player from gary, indiana with a passion for the knockout game. holds record for most knocked out “muhfuggahs” in one afternoon with 8. can dunk with either hand while holding a spare rib in his mouth and a pair of air jordans under his arm. FUN FACT: RUFUS is well versed in ebonics and loves spending time stealing at the local mall

  25. jchipwood says:
    Apr 21, 2015 11:10 AM

    bullcharger says:
    Apr 21, 2015 10:36 AM
    cajunaise says:
    Apr 21, 2015 10:29 AM

    Manning would have let him.

    —————–

    Brady 4

    Archie 0
    Peyton 1
    Eli 2
    ————
    Mannings 3

    Brady > Mannings
    _________________________________

    Secretary for the 49ers in the 80s – 4 rings

    —————-

    Brady touched the ball on 99.9% of plays. I have no idea how many balls the secretary touched.

  26. Clearly everyone wants to be like the World Champion Patriots! 🙂 Can you blame them?

  27. Brady declined to give Griffin pointers…
    ?????????????????????????????????????????????

    What ?!?!?!?!?!?

    The biggest turd in the league refusing to give some friendly advice?

    SHOCKING !!!!!!!

    4TAINTEDRINGS !!!!!!!

  28. whitetrash69 says:
    Apr 21, 2015 11:18 AM

    Having the league tweak rules to protect you and prop you up is hard to teach. Also, did anyone really expect Brady to spill the beans about the hundreds of cheating tactics he employed over his career? RG3 should approach a a QB that has actually won a Super Bowl with asterisks, like Drew Brees.

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    Yeah… exactly. Brees won a Super Bowl with asterisks. Brady won without.

  29. “Tom Brady buys in and acts like one of the guys instead of a prima donna.”

    —————————————————————-
    Um…. what?

  30. Bullcharger,
    Sorry for the typo. I should have said without but as far as most people are concerned Brady has won zero Super Bowls. The sad part is he could have been in the discussion of the GOAT but…the cheating disqualifies him from that discussion.

  31. Too bad Brady couldn’t give RG III some of his offensive line. Of course, #6 offense + # 12 defense > #27 defense + #28 offense.

  32. Brady refused to give RGIII any pointers.

    He did however ask Jay Gruden “What the hell are you doing to this team?”

  33. Ne England prepares like a high school team.

    Washington plays like a high school team.

  34. “Funny stuff, Tom. As if imparting knowledge or tips is akin to providing RGIII with the mystical secrets of life”

    Well, Griffin was the one who asked for Brady’s insights, so apparently he thought it was important stuff.

  35. “Manning would have let him”

    Why would any QB want tips from Peyton Manning?

    What’s he going to teach them? How to rack up a bunch of gaudy regular season stats, then choke in the playoffs?

  36. Honestly, the work the Pats put in every single day, before and after the season — sure, a lot of guys do that on their own because that’s their mentality — but a lot of guys don’t want to.

    Stevie Johnson chose the Chargers over the Patriots for this reason. He’s seen how hard they work; the time, the effort and, to some people, even winning the big one isn’t worth sacrificing the other stuff.

  37. I can to wait to see the Patriots go back to being irrelevant like they were in the late 80’s and early 90’s. Those were good times.

  38. My favourite part of this is how RG’Me doesn’t understand why the Pats players listen to their coach and compared them listening to their coach as a high school team would do…

  39. Griffin sounds like he thinks he’s to good to hustle or listen to a coach. When he says “we don’t need to mimic or try to be like them, we need to create our own culture” that’s what he is insinuating. Griffin has helped create a culture for the Redskins. He’s an entitled, unaccountable, punk who gets pampered by the owner and disrespects everyone in the organization. The culture is very poor thanks to him.

  40. It is odd that Griffin thinks the Patriots act like a high school team. What a revelation, the Pats actually listen to the coaches!!! It is funny he would never consider doing the same. He wants everybody to listen to him. He surely knows more than any coach could possibly know.

  41. Brady’s work ethic has been well-publicized throughout his career. Every serious NFL fan knows the story of how he was overlooked round after round of the draft and determined to prove his worth to everyone from that point forward. I don’t need the man to discuss his discipline with me personally to understand how he operates. You’re either willing to put in that kind of effort–or you’re not.

  42. Manning to Griffin: Omaha Omaha Omaha
    Griffin: gee thanks I guess….
    Manning: hope it helps….

  43. It’s like asking the smart kid if you can copy his term paper. Because you can’t/won’t do it the hard way.

  44. I think it was a good move by 3. One of the smarter attempts he has made. At least it shows he is not a know it al like I thought he was. Being teachable is a good thing.

  45. I know Brady’s secret. It having a good makeup artist and preparing for every game like its the last important thing on earth.

  46. Brady was afraid the name of the ball boy would come up and how much air to be in the ball.

  47. butwhatabouttheintegrityofthegame says:
    Apr 21, 2015 10:37 AM
    Pats are in a league of their own. The reason? They just put in more effort

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    It is really really hard to argue that

    -Colts Fan

  48. oh,the righteous whitetrash69 has to make his opinion heard. Take notice people. Talks out one side of his mouth, poops out the other. He’s surely an all knowing and stand up guy. I’m sure he has plenty of long lasting meaningful relationships. Probably real popular too. You can just tell.

  49. You’ll need to think of something extremely creative which borders on being outside of the rules and which creates an unfair playing advantage.

    But you’ll have to do it fast because once used the NFL will step in and make the play illegal. They would not have thought that anyone would implement the play because it violates the spirit of fairness. But alas, the NFL will be forced to step in and preclude the play because it stinks of unfairness.

    So you’ll only be able to use the play a couple of times. So make sure to use it when it really counts.

  50. The New England Patriots are Super bowl 49 champions and Tom Brady is 4 and 2 in 6 super bowl appearances, fact. It’s awesome that that one simple sentence infuriates certain people. Must suck for them. You know who you are…yeah you. Take a deep breath and call to your mother up the stairs, in a pleasant tone, for your chicken finger dinner. She may be all you have left.

  51. RG, here’s a hint on how Tom approaches his craft. He has 4 SB rings. He owns just about every QB post season passing record there is. Yet on the Pats first day of VOLUNTARY workouts, he showed up EARLY. On his Facebook page he said – and I quote – “I still have a lot to prove.”

    You catching my drift here? The man is a legend because he made himself into one.

  52. I can to wait to see the Patriots go back to being irrelevant like they were in the late 80’s and early 90’s. Those were good times.

    _________________

    LOL. Pats fans absolutely LOVE reading stuff like this.

    Crying for the 80’s and 90’s!!!

    Bahwahaaaaaahaaaa.

    Priceless.

  53. ROFL!! Why would Brady worry?? LOL, There isn’t anything Brady could impart to said playground scrub that he could actually duplicate on the field. One is an ALL-TIME great NFL Qb, the other isn’t a QB. At all.

  54. EVERYONE remembers John Riggins 4 and 1 TD run vs the Dolphins…..or Redskins 35 points in the second quarter vs the Broncos…..but NOBODY is going to remember anything from the Patriots tainted Superbowl “victories”. Benefits of cheating and a commissioner in your pocket. HTTR.

  55. According to NFL Films dot com, last year the 1987 NFL Films Redskins Superbowl Video sold 67K units…..every Superbowl Video from all of the Patriots years combined sold 27K last year (barely outselling the 1991 Redskins video which sold 22K). Yeah, the REAL fans know the difference. Hail.

  56. You want pointers here is one: Start doing what the coaches want you to do instead of thinking you can take on the whole D yourself. Two: stop acting like a spoiled prick and get your respect back in the locker room.

  57. According to NFL Films dot com, last year the 1987 NFL Films Redskins Superbowl Video sold 67K units…..every Superbowl Video from all of the Patriots years combined sold 27K last year …

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    … because everybody had already bought them prior to last year.

  58. Bob, Just cheat your way through three superbowls by spying on the other team so you don’t have to read the defense and your defense will have the upper hand throughout the game. When you are caught, the commish will have your back because you won three super bowls. Then, thank Peyton manning for convincing the commish into allowing NFL teams to inflate their own balls, or rather deflate them, so your WRs have an easier time catching the ball, and you don’t have to worry about fumbles as much. The NFL will just ignore it ever happened so no worries.. If you still can’t win after spying and deflating the balls, maybe this just isn’t for you.

  59. Vikings Fan here.

    Matt Cassell (sp?) played for us after being the back up for Tom Brady. While Matt was a starter in MN, both him and Brady both said publicly that they talked almost every week or exchanged texts. We never gave Matt stability up here with rumors swarming we were going to drop him 2 weeks after he was our starter.

    The thing is if Tom likes you I don’t think he shys away from giving the person advice. Also his QB Coach is well known and has offered to work with Tim Tebow and others to help them (Rarely do they take the guy up on the offer). The coach is who Brady credits with most of his success.

    But Robert more than likely went into those work outs with the wrong attitude and when he approached Brady went with the blunt give me the exact methods. He also, more than likely, hasn’t paid attention or been a huge fan of the NFL to know that Tom has a history of helping/mentoring other players. I would suspect he observed the way RGIII was during the workouts and determined the problem isn’t with the coaches way of running the team, its with the leader of the offenses approach.

  60. “What good would it do?, he doesn’t know how to beat the Giants. Eli 2- Brady 0”

    Do you seriously think you can troll Patriots fans by bringing up Eli’s name at this point? While we’re still basking in the glow of the Super Bowl?

    Sorry to disappoint you, but nothing is going to bring us down now.

  61. Where is the evidence that Ginger Rogers Griffin put to use what he supposedly saw in that practice?

    Last year was the worst Ginger has ever played and his performance against the Tampa team was one of the worst any Redskins QB has ever played. Period.

    The sooner the media learns that what Ginger says is worth zero, the better it will be for us all. Don’t print or cover anything the clown says – it is all a lie – like his career.

    When the guys off the bench can move the offense better than the four draft choice messiah, you know the messiah is a false prophet.

  62. You don’t need Tom to tell you to work hard, be the first in and last to leave and give 100% to improving. All which you have never done.

  63. You guys notice Brady/Garappolo after the INT in the Super Bowl.. I don’t think Brady cares for him or maybe just doesn’t want to be buddies with the eventual taker of his position… Plus the TD snub vs Chiefs…lol

  64. bullcharger says:
    Apr 21, 2015 10:36 AM
    cajunaise says:
    Apr 21, 2015 10:29 AM

    Manning would have let him.

    —————–

    Brady 4

    Archie 0
    Peyton 1
    Eli 2
    ————
    Mannings 3

    Brady > Mannings

    ————————————————
    Brady 2 NFL MVP’s
    Peyton 5 MVP’s

    Peyton > Brady

  65. Why would Brady just randomly help a potential competitor? That’s wrong on so many levels. Kapernick got some help from a retired Warner, but I’m sure he handled himself a lot better and paid for the consulting.

  66. jchipwood says:
    Apr 21, 2015 11:10 AM
    bullcharger says:
    Apr 21, 2015 10:36 AM
    cajunaise says:
    Apr 21, 2015 10:29 AM

    Manning would have let him.

    —————–

    Brady 4

    Archie 0
    Peyton 1
    Eli 2
    ————
    Mannings 3

    Brady > Mannings
    _________________________________

    Secretary for the 49ers in the 80s – 4 rings

    =======================================

    legitimate catches by jerry rice = zero. tainted 49ers rings is two at least.

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