With one year on his deal, Bradford trade would be a gamble for Cleveland

AP

The Browns think they can trade for Sam Bradford today. The Eagles think they can flip a pick they get from the Browns to move up and draft Marcus Mariota.

Unfortunately for both teams, Bradford will have something to say about that.

Multiple reports have said that Bradford would not be willing to sign a new contract with the Browns, which raises questions about whether it would really make any sense for the Browns to trade for him. Bradford has one year and $13 million left on his deal, and giving up a first-round draft pick for a guy with one year and $13 million left on his deal would be an odd decision if that player isn’t going to sign a new deal for 2016 and beyond.

Maybe the Browns know all that and would give up a first-round draft pick for Bradford anyway. The Browns are, after all, desperate to find themselves a quarterback. And they could franchise him next year to keep him in 2016 for about $20 million.

But that’s a huge price to pay for a quarterback who hasn’t improved since his rookie year and hasn’t shown he can stay healthy. The Browns took a major gamble last year when they spent a first-round pick on Johnny Manziel, and they’d be taking another major gamble if they spent a first-round pick on Bradford.

78 responses to “With one year on his deal, Bradford trade would be a gamble for Cleveland

  1. The threat of the franchise tag tends to set guys straight. If he goes to Cleveland and has a good year, franchise him. If not, you don’t want to re-sign him anyway. Simple.

  2. Am I the only one who would love to see the Browns get Bradford and then A. Bucs take MM or B. Titans want more than what Chip offers……see how much of a “genius” he is then….

  3. How far off do the Browns think they are from competing? If they don’t think they’re far, Bradford might not be the worst option because McKown is a realiable backup right? For a qb who needs to have a good year, it seems legit the Browns could tag him and trade him in the offseason for a higher price if he had a good year and he didn’t want to ink an extension there

  4. Browns logic: We have two first round draft picks (i.e. two busts). Let’s simplify this by trading for an already established bust.

  5. Bradford would be the starter in Cleveland. He would get franchised and start there in 2016 as well. That’s almost 30 million over the course of the next 2 seasons.

    If this report is true, he must really hate the idea of going to Cleveland because he’s not a shoo in to start elsewhere let alone get a long term contract or franchise tag.

  6. The threat of the franchise tag tends to set guys straight. If he goes to Cleveland and has a good year, franchise him. If not, you don’t want to re-sign him anyway. Simple.
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    Yeah but then you pay Bradford like $20 million for one year, so not so simple. He’s not worth the $13 million he’s due this year.

  7. There is a reason Bradford was taken no. 1 overall a few years back. It’s just that no one can remember any of reason for it today. At this point it’s the Browns may be looking at either taking bradford or having a horsek0ck sandwhich in 2015.

  8. If the Browns trade a 1st round pick for a guy who has had two major knee surgeries in two years, Ray Farmer should be fired immediately. There is no way Bradford is worth a 1st round pick two years after he was first selected in the draft. There has to be more in it for Cleveland, a player or a pick. It’s Philly who’s making the call, so it’s Philly who has to pony up. Making this deal, as stated, is a terrible choice for a team that can’t stop the run, or rush the passer, and has no #1 WR.

  9. I trust the Browns proven track record when it comes to quarterbacks… I can’t think of a time when the Browns had a bad QB… Oh wait, that’s right. Never mind.

  10. “Multiple reports have said that Bradford would not be willing to sign a new contract with the Browns”

    Substitute “Bradford” with any of 50 other active QB names, and I would STILL not be shocked.

  11. Trade the two pcks for rivers and then sd can trade 3 firsts for mariota. That’s the better deal for cleve

  12. he’s like a fragile version of christian ponder but a slightly stronger arm. that is all.

  13. 3rd round pick, sure. 1st round pick , Lord NO! Ray Farmer says the most important ability is availability. This guy has obviously shown he doesn’t have it.

  14. The Browns are like that kid you talked into trading his Rickey Henderson rookie card for 2 Jose Cansecos and a Tim Raines. Why would the Browns want Bradford who’s coming off 2 major injuries and coming into a contract year? A first round pick for that? No way the Browns do this deal. If they do then their factory will be producing more high-quality sadness for years to come.

  15. Lets stop with this Bradford won’t sign stuff… OF course he will… He is one ACL away from being done… No way he doesn’t sign any fair deal offered… This would be a good move for the Browns if the Eagles are willing to take on JFF . As an Eagles fan i would be thrilled with JFF being on the team but if it gets us MM then i am in… Oh and no trades will happen till the titans are on the clock .

  16. Why would anyone want to pay Bradford 13M a year and have to try and resign him. Man, if the factory of sadness makes a deal to trade for Bradford, then they might as well write off another 5 years. How many horrible QB picks can one team make? Cleveland has to be #1 to date, don’t be a sucker and take Chip’s bait.

  17. joshgordonsbong says:
    Apr 30, 2015 1:22 PM

    Am I the only one who would love to see the Browns get Bradford and then A. Bucs take MM or B. Titans want more than what Chip offers……see how much of a “genius” he is then….

    The fact that you would assume the Eagles would make this trade before the draft happens shows how little you know about football.

    This trade won’t happen until the Titans are on the clock.

  18. If Bradford’s left knee, the one with two surgeries that is still being rehabbed…if the Browns do a deal for Bradford and his knee doesn’t hold up…

    …the very same people supporting the trade now would be down on the Browns like never before if Bradford can’t play due to his knee.

  19. In Cleveland, Bradford would have the best offensive line he’s ever had in the NFL, will have a pretty dynamic young duo of RBs, a decent receiving corps, likely with a high WR pick and he’ll be in a WCO. Pittsburgh and Baltimore’s defenses aren’t what they used to be either. For Bradford, that has to be someone intriguing.

    For Cleveland…he’s a decent QB with 2 ACL tears in his short career. Is that worth a 1st rounder? If he stays healthy he’ll be the best QB the Cleveland has had since at least Kosar, and Cleveland has the cap room for his 2015 salary and franchise tag for the 2016 season. If that were the case, he’d be worth the first rounder. If he gets injured again, it’d be a waste of a trade. It comes down to a gamble on injuries.

  20. so Ray farmer.
    First you break all the unofficial rules about how a gm is supposed to act, get “caught up” in a game and harass coaches during a game. ok. that right there shows you how dysfunctional your team is opperating.
    But ok whatever.
    Than you entertain trading a 1st round pick for Sam Bradford…freaking Sam Bradford!!

    Guy needs to go.

  21. You have to be kidding, getting Bradford for a 1st round pick is crazy. The current Browns ownership would make the late Ted Stepien of the Cleveland Cavaliers look like a genius. Rather than take Sam Bradford, go get Mariota instead. Sam is 28 and was talked out of retirement less than 60 days ago. Are you kidding? Sam is not worth a #1 draft choice.

  22. Can someone tell me the difference between Sam Bradford and Robert Griffin right now, except one guy’s been hurt more, costs more, and hasn’t been to the playoffs with a better team? It was strange when the Eagles traded for him, and it would be even stranger if the Browns think this would be the anser after the gaff of drafting Manziel when Bridgewater was apparently who every football person in the building wanted to pick.

  23. STOP DREAMING ABOUT IT EAGLES FANS– Browns aren’t gonna help you get to Mariota. Un-be-leeevable anyone would buy this …
    ….Chip Kelly-Tenn Titan fueled rumor!!

    Browns KNOW Bradford does NOT want to go there, and will not re-sign so why do it?? Makes ZERO sense from any-and-all angles.

    This is EASILY the stupidest draft-day rumor I have ever heard in my life.

  24. It would be yet another stupid move by the Brown’s organization to trade up for the #2 pick. Use the two #1 picks on good players, and pick up a young QB in the 3rd round – like the kid from Colorado State.

  25. Rams trade Foles and two 2nd rounders to Cleveland for the 12th pick.

    Rams then trade the 10th,12th and a 4th rounder for the #2 pick.

    Cleveland ends up with 3 picks in the top 50 (deep draft for WR’s) and a decent QB.

    Rams get their QB.

    Tenn gets 2 blue chippers.

  26. These are the kind of deals that have set Cleveland back time after time. With 2 first rounders at their disposal and if the best they can do is add Bradford, God help them.

  27. In 2011 Jason Campbell was playing well for the Raiders before the Browns injured him, they traded for Palmer, he was never the same, especially when he was with the Browns. Bradford got his most recent ACL injury from the Browns in last preseason, so, if they then get him……………. Yeah, makes sense, trade for him.

  28. “that’s a huge price to pay for a quarterback who hasn’t improved since his rookie year and hasn’t shown he can stay healthy”
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    So why then was Chip Kelly called a genius for getting him in the first place?

  29. Careful making deals with Chip Kelly; he is either crazy or crazy like a fox. The trend is (and I believe it) that true contenders are built through the draft with the occasional trade/free agent pick-up to close the deal. Regardless I do not see Bradford as the long term answer for anyone.

  30. Would everyone stop with the “He won’t sign”, “He’ll be a Free Agent” crap? Please. If the Browns gave up a 1st Rounder for him, they’d sure as hell Franchise Tag him to make sure he didn’t get away. Lord knows they have more than enough cap space for such a move.

    If the Browns make the move, they’ll waive the Franchise Tag trump card around and Bradford, given his injury history, will have no choice but to sign a long-term deal or risk losing 10’s of Millions due to injury. You do the math.

    And call me crazy, but I think this is an excellent gamble for the Browns. Bradford was playing some excellent football in 2013 prior to the injury. Bradford never had great offensive talent around him in STL but in 2013 he had a few new pieces to work with (Cook, Austin, etc) and his play responded accordingly. So if (big if) he can stay healthy, it appears as though he’s signficantly better than any QB the Browns have trotted out there since 1999, and there’s no close 2nd. But yet, Browns fans say this is a bad deal lol. No wonder they’re consistently regarded as some of the dumbest in the league.

    Bottom Line: If the Browns don’t come up with a QB today, there’s no sense in using two 1st Round Picks. Without a QB, you can’t win in this league. And to try to improve the roster elsewhere is an exercise in futility and they’ll continue to do nothing but spin their wheels. If they can’t get Bradford or Mariota today, they’d be wise (VERY WISE) to take the #19 pick and trade out for someones 2016 1st Rounder. Any other picks they get out of that are simply icing on the cake. If they can’t get a QB, preserve ammo to make that move next year should the opportunity arise. Also, wouldn’t be a terrible idea to tank 2015 away to position themselves for that QB should they not get one today.

  31. Chip the dip please get mariotta Cowboys would love to play zone and destroy Riley the racist as he catches bubble screens, don’t worry that idiot Laurie will have Chip packing back to college soon enough

  32. Cleveland would be better served sticking at 12 and 19, getting some more good players (that’s a question since besides Manziel, Gilbert was just as bad last year with a bad attitude too) and take the Mannion QB from Oregon State. He comes out of a pro offense, has a very strong arm, and it won’t cost you porbably more than a 3. If he doesn’t show anything when he gets in the building, there will be more QBs in next year’s draft. This is what smart franchises do, not go reaching.

  33. gomybirdsgo says:
    Apr 30, 2015 1:34 PM
    Lets stop with this Bradford won’t sign stuff… OF course he will…
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    No, he won’t. In fact, he’d be an idiot to sign an extension unless he really really liked the team he was on. Look at the possibilities:

    1) Bradford plays all season. Regardless of the nimrods claiming otherwise, he’s a good QB when he’s healthy. Go look at the numbers. After the season, he’s the big prize on the FA market. He can get another big payday somewhere that isn’t Cleveland or the Browns could franchise tag him and he’ll get a 8 digit payday. WIN Bradford

    2) He gets hurt again. Some team might offer him a prove it FA deal. Cleveland likely woukd let him walk. WIN Bradford.
    3) He’s hurt so badly (or plays so badly,) that his career is over. He already got a huge payday in St.Louis. LOSE Bradford but also LOSE Browns

    There’s one constant. If he doesn’t want to be in Cleveland, then unless Cleveland wants to dump top 5 QB money at him next season, he leaves Cleveland. No offense Browns fans, I feel for you, but your organization is a mess and as long as Captain Rebate owns the team AND keeps meddling by dumping coaching staff’s and IT’s not even a season after hiring them or despite his lack of any football background, decides to tell his GMs and Coaches to do idiot things in the draft (and don’t fool yourself, JFF isn’t the only dumb thing Captain Rebate has forced on the team,) until that con-man learns to sit down and shut up then good players that can catch on with other teams are gonna do just that unless Cleveland is willing to overpay by a lot. Like I said, I feel for you fans that have to deal with this, but that’s the reality of the situation. Dan Snyder thinks Captain Rebate interferes in football operations too much.

  34. There is always another possibility.

    What if the Eagles really do think that Bradford could run Chips system?

    I know it sounds crazy but what if?

    What if they want to lock him down to a long tern deal before he potentially puts up big numbers and commands a ton of money? How do you do that when he is on a one year $13 Mil deal? Right now Bradford and Ben Dogra have all the leverage. (What if you could change that?)

    What if the Trade talk really is a ploy to get Bradford signed to a team friendly long term deal? Say down to 7-8 Mil/APY on a 4- 5 year deal. What if the threat of trading him to the Browns is nothing more than a way to change the negotiating leverage to the teams favor?

    The no trade clause would be the giveback to Bradford.

    The Eagles get a cheap deal with say most of the money guaranteed in the first 2 years Bradford gets more injury security and a place he can put up good #’s with some weapons.

    The more I think about it if the Eagles really wanted Mariota, why tell the entire world how interested you really are? Chip may have a huge ego, but stupid he is not! I mean the media circus is intentional he gets his former QB a lot of good press, helps Oregon in it’s recruiting endeavors, and smokescreens the hell out of every GM and agent.

  35. How could any organization justify franchising a guy who does not want to be with your organization and pay him $20M in the process. He will never sign a long-term deal in CLE or he would be willing to do it now. Is franchising him every season for the foreseeable future the plan?

  36. 1) Bradford plays all season. Regardless of the nimrods claiming otherwise, he’s a good QB when he’s healthy. Go look at the numbers. After the season, he’s the big prize on the FA market.
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    Under no circumstance does that scenario EVER come to fruition. Teams don’t let good QB’s walk to Free Agency. He would be Franchise Tagged under such a scenario.

  37. masturnater says:
    Apr 30, 2015 1:21 PM

    The threat of the franchise tag tends to set guys straight. If he goes to Cleveland and has a good year, franchise him. If not, you don’t want to re-sign him anyway. Simple.

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    And pay him $25M for one season?? Yeah, no way that’s happening.

  38. For Philly to do this trade they would need at least one of Cleveland’s first round picks, but it didn’t take that to get him from the Rams…it took Foles (a QB taken in the third round) and a second round pick. So why would Bradford now be worth a first round pick if everything Philly gave up isn’t worth one of Cleveland’s first round picks? With him essentially saying he won’t be ready for training camp would tend to decrease his value over the past two months rather than increase it…

  39. If the Browns move to 2, they should draft Mariotta and then make the Eagles pay big for him, and include Bradford. If Cleveland got Bradford, they’re easily a .500 team or better (if he stays healthy).

  40. This would be a very Browns thing to do.

    Just when you think the Browns can’t possibly weasel their way into a terrible situation yet again, they prove us all wrong.

    You could honestly let a Fan be the GM for a few years and probably get similar results (or better)… I’m serious.

  41. Do the Browns watch ANY draft coverage? These past few weeks hasn’t been a bunch of talking heads wondering who is going to win the Sam Bradford sweepstakes!

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