Carroll says ball currently is in Wilson’s court

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Here’s an item that was largely overlooked in the aftermath of the 2015 NFL draft — the player selected with the 75th pick in the 2012 NFL draft is no closer to a new deal.

In an interview with ESPN, Carroll said that talks with quarterback Russell Wilson are “going a little slow,” but that the process is “ongoing,” via Bob Condotta of the Seattle Times.

As it relates to the formal exchange of offers and counteroffers, it won’t be going anywhere until Wilson’s camp responds to whatever Seattle most recently put on the table.  Carroll specifically said that the team is “waiting to hear from their side.”

Condotta notes that, shortly after Carroll’s interview, Wilson responded with this message on Twitter:  “I’d rather patiently wait & see what God has in store than do something that isn’t best for my life.”

That sounds like Wilson may not be responding any time soon, if at all.  It possibly means Wilson will decide to play out his contract, forcing the Seahawks to decide whether to apply the exclusive or non-exclusive version of the franchise tag.  The exclusive version would cost upwards of $25 million for 2016 (and nearly $100 million on a year-to-year basis over three years).  The non-exclusive version would allow another team to swoop in with a major offer that, if not matched by the Seahawks, would result in Wilson changing teams — and in Seattle receiving a pair of first-round draft picks.

For now, it appears that Wilson plans to drive a hard bargain, as passively as possible.  And he has every right to drive a hard bargain, passively or aggressively.  At some point, however, it will become difficult to reconcile posturing for top dollar with the ubiquitous cry of “Go ‘Hawks!

63 responses to “Carroll says ball currently is in Wilson’s court

  1. There’s about 7 to 10 teams that would give up 2 first round draft choices for him in a heart beat.

  2. At this point, Andrew Luck and Cam Newton should just go ahead and sign their new deals. This song and dance waiting for Russell Wilson to sign his new deal has gone on long enough.

  3. I’d rather patiently wait & see what God has in store than do something that isn’t best for my life.”
    ——
    I immediately discount all people that are waiting for “god” to talk to them.

  4. Not so sure it’s in either party’s best interest to negotiate through either the media or God.

  5. One of the best quarterbacks in the league. He was under a contract that was the deal of the century. Pay the man.

  6. Oh that’s rich, coming from the guy who advocates college athletes sitting out entire seasons so they don’t risk their “future earning potential” by getting injured.

    PCJS gave Marshawn Lynch extra skrilla just to keep him happy and feeling respected. They made Richard Sherman the highest paid corner in the game (for a minute, it’s not their fault that Patrick Peterson signed a bigger deal 2 days later). ET is the highest paid safety. They also gave Kam Chancellor a cool $1 million without extending or rewriting his contract, just stone cold forked over cash because he outperformed his position.

    I have zero doubt that Russ and Pete and John won’t come to some kind of long term deal. Russ is simply trying to get himself, his agent, and his entourage all paid. “It’s a process”, said everyone involved ever. Every player does it.

    Can you actually imagine Russbot holding out? Thought not.

  7. the dude threw the game deciding interception in suprebowl 49. Anyone coulda won superbowl 48 with that defence. let him stew.

  8. “I’d rather patiently wait & see what God has in store than do something that isn’t best for my life.”

    What is god telling you after you blow out your ACL while waiting?

  9. Wow, Russell Wilson looks like a baby in that video from 2012! Time sure flies, seems like yesterday he was catching fire in the second half of the season and becoming a darkhorse Rookie of the Year contender!

  10. “I’d rather patiently wait & see what God has in store than do something that isn’t best for my life.”

    Russell – How many million did God suggest you should hold out for? Does he advise Free Agency?
    Why can’t he get Tim Tebow more than the veteran minimum?

  11. bbfe says:
    May 3, 2015 10:31 PM

    One of the best quarterbacks in the league. He was under a contract that was the deal of the century. Pay the man.

    ====================

    LOL – no he’s not. He’s a game manager, like Flacco…and definitely not worth the money that Flacco makes (then again, neither does Flacco)

    Without beast mode and the good defense, the Seachickens wouldn’t have even made the playoffs.

  12. PFT just started the Wilson to the Eagles in 2016 rumor! Mad scientist Chip Kelly at work.

  13. conormacleod says:
    May 3, 2015 10:24 PM
    I’d rather patiently wait & see what God has in store than do something that isn’t best for my life.”
    ——
    I immediately discount all people that are waiting for “god” to talk to them.
    _____________

    Why? Just, because some people choose to use religion to help them through life, they lose points in your book?

    Believe in any God, Bunny, Clause, Bigfoot or the Loch Ness Monster or nothing at all, if you like, and if it helps you get to finish line of life feeling happier, and stronger, more power to you.

    Just don’t go judging others, cramming beliefs or lack their of, down other people throats.

  14. I say let him walk and wonder if he can make a hall of fame career in some place like Cleveland. This is a team sport that needs a team mentality not a me me me mindset. Russ is average. Great legs but terrible arm and can’t make a timely decision. In the Hawks scheme, anyone will be successful.

  15. Russell will probably get 24M a year.

    That’s not bad with TV deal money kicking in, but it will mean some hard choices in the next years as it gets to the backend of Sherman/Thomas deals.

    Lynch won’t be around after next year or so (at least at that paycheck) and it’s not like they have a highly paid WR corps.

  16. Wilson is a good QB but I think about 20 QB’s in this league could win with that team.

    In fact, I was pretty good at handing the ball off, so I could have won 2 with that team…

  17. The cost/benefit of waiting will stay in favor of the team for the next two seasons, due to risk to his health and the fact that utilizing the franchise tag, the team has him for at least the next two seasons. Russell, if he continues to develop and play at a very highly successful level, will gain leverage only after completing the two years.

    Win/Win is best achieved by getting a fair deal done before the season gets started. I still think you will likely see that happen.

  18. The Seahawks had to realize at some point they could not continue paying a record-setting, Super Bowl-winning quarterback less money than his back-up. That party had to come to an end. Richard Sherman didn’t take a hometown discount, Earl Thomas didn’t take one, they forked extra money over to Lynch and Chancellor. They are paying the long snapper more than twice as much as Wilson.

    Would the ‘Hawks like Wilson to accept much less than he should? Of course. Would the fans like Wilson to take a hometown discount? Absolutely!

    ‘Hawks pay much more than you want to because you are NOT going to find another franchise QB. Wilson, take less than you are entitled to because you can’t destroy the team. Nobody else–including Seahawks management–is taking a hometown discount but you probably should Wilson because that is part of the definition of a leader–leading by example.

    By the way, once you do it, make sure you publicly challenge John Schneider and Pete Carroll to take hometown discounts by reducing their salaries.

  19. His agent probably told him to let the memory of choking away a SB fade a bit before he makes a deal.

  20. KIR says:
    There’s about 7 to 10 teams that would give up 2 first round draft choices for him in a heart beat.
    ——————————–
    Lmao, pipe dream.

    Maybe in the CFL.

  21. God was probably trying to guide Russel away from riches when He had him through that interception in the SB. Evidently Russell isn’t worried about making his way through the proverbial eye of the needle.

  22. the dude threw the game deciding interception in suprebowl 49. Anyone coulda won superbowl 48 with that defence. let him stew,

    Except he is not stewing, that will be the fans and team. Maybe not now but when that cheap, underpaid and under appreciated guy “who anyone can do his job” when that contract runs out we will see who “stews” the most.

    Very few people it seems appreciate what he has done and all seem to want to praise everyone but Russell Wilson, news flash you win and lose as a team, you remove one major part its a whole new ball game!

  23. Wilson is a good QB but I think about 20 QB’s in this league could win with that team.

    you are dead wrong russell has been running for his life the last two yrs. a less mobile qb would be in trouble in seattle.he has won ten games the last two yrs with his legs

  24. Such pathetic short-termism.
    Less money = better team
    Better team = more success
    More success = more sponsorship cash.

    Does an extra 2-4 million a year in salary make it worth scuppering your team’s hopes of success? What would Jesus do?

  25. Can any team go from his current salary to $25 million or more overnight? I think he should play hos deal out and see what 31 teams will pay like every other team. There is a strong argument that hes overpaid when he tgrows maybe 25 times a game. He might be the best game manager, but he did throw an int on the 1 yd line in the super bowl.

  26. This is far from over. He hasn’t even threatened to quit football to play baseball yet. Maybe he wants to avoid concussions…who knows? In the end, he will get over 20 Million per year, if he decides to stay in the NFL.

  27. While rumor does have it that Newton is waiting for the Wilson deal to get done (foolish), Luck has different circumstances. As a 1st round pick under the new CBA, the Colts exercised the 5th-year option on him, so they don’t have to do anything until after next season, even if they don’t then tag him.

    As for Cam, he should be trying to get a deal done *before* RW’s…once that bar has been set, the Panthers won’t be likely to offer more than 80-90% of whatever Wilson’s getting. He hasn’t had nearly the success that Wilson has, whether you call either of them game managers or not.

  28. Be honest, what would John Schneider be known for if he had not drafted Russell Wilson? CLUE: It rhymes with Cat Chin.

  29. It sounds as though he may not be committed to football as he once was – maybe baseball or being a church pastor is in his near future. If I were the Seahawks I would be a little concerned and maybe start the process of looking for another quarterback!

  30. EVERYBODY is mis reading this thing. He’s stalling until his divorce is final. Nothing will happen until then.

  31. He has one advantage in terms of leverage, there are at least 5 teams with no QBs (i.e. the Jets with Geno Smith) , and a few others with suspects QBs.
    Having Geno Smith as QB costs you games.
    While Wilson may not be a great QB, over the season he isn’t hurting you and is adding some value.
    Lets say there is a 3 game differenec.
    What would you pay to avoid losing 3 games?
    Thus it may make sense to slightly over pay Russel Wilson.
    110 for 5 years. Over paid? Yes. But if the alternative is a series of failures, who consume high draft picks to obtain, it’s not that bad a deal.

    The other question for Wilson is how much he wnats the team to have to spend on othe rplayers. Will having a little more money make him happier compared to winning another Super Bowl?

  32. I really think the replacement refs’ poor call against the Packers was the reason for the Seahawks’ success of the last 3 years.

  33. Want to know one of the reasons Tom Brady is the greatest of all time? Look what he does with his contract when the team needs cap relief. How much money do you REALLY need?

  34. He took all the money he could? Or are you one of the stupid ones that don’t think he got paid regardless? He didn’t gave any money back…and considering he could live off his wife’s paycheck, that’s pretty selfish.

  35. broncostevenp says:
    May 4, 2015 9:32 AM
    Want to know one of the reasons Tom Brady is the greatest of all time? Look what he does with his contract when the team needs cap relief. How much money do you REALLY need?
    __________________________________________

    Absolutely! So all of you players who are negotiating new contracts, just get out there and marry the world’s highest paid supermodel (making $33 million a year), so that you can be “gracious” and not take as much money at contract time.

  36. First QB to throw an INT at the 1/2 yd to lose the SB and you think you should be paid top dollar.

  37. Wilson is a good game manager and an average qb at best. I hope he goes to another team so people find out how average he is. He’s just lucky to have lynch and that defense.

  38. It just takes one person to get inside someones ear and put things in perspective. He can be set for the rest of his life off of one Franchise Tag year, but if he signs the right contract ( i.e.as large as possible) then he will be setting up his future kids and grandkids for life as well. What means more to you, getting Carroll another ring or getting the best life possible for your family?

  39. When did a game manager get his team to back to back SB’s? Never?

    I mean the thought of it…hand the ball to Lynch at the .5 and it’s back to back SB wins…RW didn’t blow that SB. That’s Darrell Bevell’s failure. Any high school coach knows to protect yourself by throwing it only to where your guy can get it and not into the interior of the defense.

    Still, given how unhealthy the Hawks were at the end of the year, it was a very very good year. They got back to the SB while 99.9% of the people hear swore up in down no way would Seattle get back to the playoffs last year. Of course they’re too cowardly to acknowledge they were the ones hating all year that Seattle wouldn’t return to the playoffs. Whatever…cowards.

  40. “I’d rather patiently wait & see what God has in store than do something that isn’t best for my life.”

    Because God thinks that you should make more money, obviously.

    Talk about cheapening religion. “God wants me to be a millionaire”

  41. I forgot to add that I do like Wilson. He’s a good QB. He’s quick and smart, which are good qualities to have in a QB. He is short and has trouble throwing over the middle.

    God made Wilson short.

  42. rascalmanny says:
    May 3, 2015 11:49 PM
    Can’t believe this is even an issue. You know how many teams are dying for a QB?
    ——————————————————————–

    There are many QBs in the league that are better than Wilson. Wilson, while good, is not anywhere near Manning, or Rogers, or Brees, or Brady. Seattle ranked near the bottom in the league in passing stats.

    Without Lynch, Seattle would have no offense.

  43. Perhaps the Seahawks are trying to exclude him from playing baseball similar to the Winston contract. Every other member of the team seems to have quickly worked out a new deal without this more back and forth. If they can get a king’s ransom by trading him I would explore that. If he is truly just a good QB who is great because of the system he plays in .

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