Bruce Irvin vents over non-exercise of fifth-year option

AP

The Seahawks “expect” to have linebacker Bruce Irvin on the team for a long time, but they won’t be ensuring a fifth year at this point via the exercise of the automatic option that would extend his rookie deal.  And while coach Pete Carroll said over the weekend that he met with Irvin to explain the situation and it “went very well,” it didn’t go as well last night on Twitter.

“Faced way tougher adversity getting outta them streets coming up!” Irvin said on Twitter, via Bob Condotta of the Seattle Times.  “That’s sh-t is nothing!  F–K THAT OPTION!”

He also declared, “I am a Seahawk!”  And he expressed a desire to prove his worth.

“Worked for everything I got in my life this sh-t will b no different!” Irvin said.  “I earns my keeps!”

Irvin later apologized, sort of.

“I’m a very blunt person and that won’t ever change sorry if u dislike it,” he said.

Players prefer (or at least should prefer) not to have their fifth-year option exercised, since it means they’ll have a shot at free agency a year sooner — and a chance to gauge their value on the open market.  The Seahawks apparently believe that, come 2016, Irvin won’t be worth the $7.8 million he was due to earn under the option.

On the other hand, the decision not to pick up a player’s option represents a commentary on the player’s perceived worth, which will tend to create some ruffled feathers in the short term.

The Seahawks have not formally announced that Irvin’s option won’t be exercised.  Based on Irvin’s tweets following his meeting with Carroll, it apparently hasn’t been.

92 responses to “Bruce Irvin vents over non-exercise of fifth-year option

  1. Welcome to the world of the salary cap. Every successful teams faces this. That’s why it’s so hard to stay on top.

  2. He’ll do well, to an attend some form of post high-school English class.

  3. This dude cries more than my 11 month old daughter. I’m pretty sure he requires more attention than her too.

  4. Based on this situation I don’t blame the Seahawks. He showed what a classless, whiny, crybaby sore loser he is at the end of the SB and he’s showing it again now. Also seems like the kind of guy who could become a distraction in the locker room if he’s pissing and moaning about not having his option picked up.

  5. “I earns my keeps’
    What ever happened to the English language…

  6. I’m going to go out on a limb here and guess he never earned his degree.

  7. That’s too bad. I wonder if his thoughts about the .5 yard line had anything to do with it.

  8. This guy is over-rated. See him try to cover Gronk in the SB??? Fail.

    Of course nobody has found the answer to the Gronk…ugh

  9. Man, if the Seahawks can keep all of these guys around the NFC West will be theirs for a long time. Might be anyway, but at least there’s hope. Hopefully the very young Rams o-line will hold up okay against the Seahawks in week one. Can’t wait to find out.

    Go Rams!

  10. Brady clown stomped and totally embarrassed the “legion of overrated” the 2 times he has played against them. The pats only lost the first game after a massive defensive breakdown and the second game wouldn’t have even been close but for the pats d playing soft at the end of the second quarter and a miricle catch in the 4th. Irving and the rest of the loudmouths got exposed for what they really are and now even head cheerleader Carroll realizes it

  11. Put up or shut up. I like the move by the Seahawks. Great opportunity for Irvin to make his mark and earn his money in Atlanta…or not. It’s all on him.

  12. “I earns my keeps”
    Really?
    Anyway, he should feel lucky to be a Seahawk. Hr will still have a job.

    He would be no better than 3rd string on the Kansas City Chiefs, and at risk of being cut.
    Andy Reid has assembled a dynasty team that will win multiple titles over the next decade. I see only the Seahawks as being able to offer any resistance, and that will be too little to stop the Chiefs domination of the league

  13. Irvin has done some stupid things in the past, but I don’t really see any bad in what he said. He didn’t call out the Seahawks, and proclaimed that he is a Seahawk. All I see it as is him stating that he’s been through worse and he’ll get through this. I think you’re looking a little too hard for something to complain about.

  14. Players shouldn’t prefer that the fifth year option not be taken, as that means they have failed to live up to expectations.

    The standard rookie contract for first round picks used to be five years. The standard contract was also might more expensive (especially at the top) and often left teams regretting things by the end. That suppressed the value of top 10 picks, which is the opposite of the way the system should work.

    The NFL changed the contracts to be slotted, keeping them at a reasonable level, and instituted the fifth year option so that some teams could avoid an expensive fifth year, while allowed the teams who are pleased with their players to keep them.

    So what has changed the most for players is that they not have an earlier out than they did before…an out they really shouldn’t want to have taken, as it doesn’t bode well for their first FA contract anyways.

  15. “I earns my keeps!”

    It doesn’t work like that bud, you could have had 100 sacks last year, but if the staff thinks you’re going to be average this year they’re not going to break the bank. Football contracts are all about perceived future performance, not what you’ve done in the past.

  16. If not being promised $7.8 million two years from now while being paid $9.0 million already and being granted the opportunity to seek many millions more in free agency is what constitutes “adversity” in Irvin’s life than he is doing quite well.

  17. He may earns his keeps but he sure can’t speaks his English’s very goodly…sheesh…and this guy makes more than brain surgeons…SMH…

  18. I really think the replacement refs’ poor call against the Packers was what started the Seahawks’ successful run of the last 3 years.

  19. This is the same classy guy who instigated all of the brawling at the end of the Super Bowl.

  20. Pete Carroll and the Seahawks are about to find out just how difficult it is to keep a championship-caliber team at that high a level throughout the years. A 2-3 year stretch is luck, and the rest is exceptional coaching, moving pieces in and out that are not popular decisions (while keeping the core together), and cap discipline.

    Is Wilson good enough to be the main cog that keeps his team going to the NFC title game year after year without Lynch and the self-proclaimed Legion of Boom in a couple years? God only knows. They’d better win now with the window they have.

    Watch out with Carroll when the team slides–that’s when you see what the organization is made of. He’s not a strong enough presence to control a locker room, especially with all the un-disciplined personalities they’ve assembled there.

  21. Something about losing a Super Bowl creates a tension and malaise in teams.

  22. What a well spoken, thoughtful and articulate young man. Definitely a role model.

  23. Seems like the Seahawks locker room is starting to crack, which honestly is hard to blame them after such a horrible loss in the SB.

    Irvin is going rogue, Bennett still hates Graham, Wilson is no longer ‘team, team, team’ as his contract situation drags on and on, etc.

    They are a rival and I will always hate them, but you gotta respect what they’ve done with a very motley crew of hot heads and me-first players. Carroll really got them all to play it his way and it’s worked, but I always suspected it would be tough to hold together character-risks that like forever.

    Adding Frank Clark to that room might not be the best idea right now.

  24. Love all the hate; I bathe in it.

    For all the comments about intelligence looks like many on here have reading comprehension issues.

    Bruce isn’t calling out the Hawks, he’s saying he’s going to earn his spot and prove his worth to stay a Hawk.

    And why wouldn’t he? Player polls have clearly shown playing for Carroll and the Hawks is the #1 destination desire across all NFL players.

    Hawks are the best organization in football since PC arrived and Wilson is the GOAT of all NFL QBs through their first three years in the league.

    On top of that there’s no question that the 12s are the best fan base.

    Oh yeah, and Kiper gives the top draft grade to… the Hawks.

    Just eats you up doesn’t it?

  25. Yet these are the idiots you cheer for, you guys care so much about education but you can’t wait to get these guys as juniors, you care so much about education but these athletes take up scholarships from people who are 2x as smart as them, face facts the nfl is our roman arena, who cares how smart they are the activity their doing is going to reduce their lifespan by over 20% their gladiatiors pure and simple and you and me are the cheering mob.

  26. He’s a good linebacker. He’s just not good enough to be worth 7.8 million a year. Expect them to try and sign him for 4-5 million/yr. If someone else wants to pay more, they can have him…

  27. corporatemediaprostitute – this is especially evident when most sports figures enter the broadcast booth. Once was listening to a baseball game where a former jock attributed an outfielder’s ability to catch a line drive to the fact that he “OUTQUICKENED the ball”. Sheesh!

  28. “I earns my keeps, precious, yes we does doesn’t we, precious? Patriots the filthy stinking thieves, we hates it forever!” ~Bruce “Gollum” Irvin

  29. So this is how he learned to speak and write via his tenure @ West Virginia? I thought one earned an education @ College, seems it was wasted on him.

  30. Eh, just Bronco your way out of it by paying him 10 million under the table. The cap is more like guidelines than actual rules.

  31. “In the end, I gave the slightest of edges to [Alex] Smith, on basically a gut feeling, but in reality, this is basically a 1 and 1-A situation. You are splitting hairs when trying to decide between Smith and Rodgers. While you could argue that they have been elevated to the top of the board because of the lack of super blue-chip prospects in this draft, after all is said and done, I expect both QBs to enjoy solid, winning careers in the NFL.”

    -Mel Kiper Draft Guru

  32. haanster says:
    May 4, 2015 8:29 AM
    Man, if the Seahawks can keep all of these guys around the NFC West will be theirs for a long time. Might be anyway, but at least there’s hope. Hopefully the very young Rams o-line will hold up okay against the Seahawks in week one. Can’t wait to find out.
    ————————————-

    First, they can’t keep them around for a long time. Such is the NFL today. Secondly, even if they keep most, their time is probably close to being over. The Cardinals are on a major upswing, and Seattle has lost key defensive pieces (not to mention BeastMode, who has another 2 years left at best).

  33. Maybe it’s just me, but I didn’t take that as him venting about his option not being picked up. That sounds like a guy ready to take the challenge to prove his worth in order to get a longer contract.

    Sometimes, people see and hear what they want to see and hear.

  34. The Hawks didn’t have a good draft because Kiper said so.

    Usually he hates the Hawks.

    The Hawks have drafted best since PC arrived – not even close.

    But now it’s even obvious to Kiper.

    LOL

    Wipe your eyes and blow your noses.

  35. This dude is a loser, pure and simple. All you need to know is how he acted in the last few seconds of the Super Bowl against the Pats. His true character came out then.

  36. The proper conjugation of the verb “to earn”, in this case, would be I “earn” my keep. I’m sure it was just a slip of the tongue on Bruce’s part.

  37. You bring the hate, and we’ll keep on winning.

    Hands down the best roster in the NFL.

    Only injuries can keep the Seahawks from winning it again.

  38. If Seattle’s season ends abruptly (ahem) again this year, watch for the out-of-control individuals on that team to blow it up and back-stab. Poor Pete (“I’m a good guy”) Carroll will be chomping on that gum feverishly while trying to explain how he lost control of yet another big situation.

    At least Wilson is a class-act and team-oriented–that’s why he’s considered an outcast there. Pay that man his money so God doesn’t have to tell him what to do next.

  39. “The Hawks didn’t have a good draft because Kiper said so.
    Usually he hates the Hawks.”

    Each draft is graded based on its own merit. It’s not like Kiper is sitting around going “I hate the Seahawks, so I have to say they drafted poorly.” That sentiment is about as ridiculous as people thinking announcers who are critical of their team “hate” their favorite team.

  40. “Faced way tougher adversity getting outta them streets coming up!”
    He’s equating a contract extension to this. Has already been paid more than most will earn in a lifetime. Perspective.

  41. Bruce is a warrior, so what he says is understandable, even to the bigots and snarky posters.
    Irwin is a talented player. I think the Hawks did not get first round value out of him. Now they are trying to determine his true value.
    I hope everyone stays cool.

  42. The problem with Irvin is he never left the streets, as he says he did.

    He says he is a blunt person and doesn’t care if anyone likes it or not. He’s also a mental midget and doesn’t have brains enough to realize that professionals should behave a certain way.

    While his team has been a winner, he is clearly a loser. If I were the Seahawks, I’d be embarrassed that this guy is on the roster.

  43. This is the same classy guy who instigated all of the brawling at the end of the Super Bowl.
    ———————————————–
    check the tape again Gronkowski(hit Irvin twice before Irvin responded) was the instigator of the fighting at the end of the Superbowl.

  44. Talking to Hawk fans here cause know one else will understand. Hawks really like KPL and the drafting of Gwacham is a sure sign they have a plan in place. In SB49 it was the loss of Cliff that killed us , when he went out it was clear we lacked depth on the DE from a pass rush aspect. The Pats double teamed MB and Brady tore us up. Not to take away from the last play but I do think going forward and paying RW the business decisions for this team have no room for error anymore. In addition Russ has got to be better as he will be relied on much more over the rest of his carrier just like Brady. He’s no Brady, not yet but I am hopeful.

  45. I have to admit I am not sure what I would do if I was in control: Irvin played well last season and seems to be improving to the point where he is worthy of getting the money on that fifth year…….However, he has flaws and seems to be a basic moron as a person. That being said, I surely want him on the team competing and putting his body on the line for the cause. Maybe, at just a slightly lower price.

    I think I would end up trying to sign him to a long term, 4 year contract, worth 5-6M per year and guarantee some 20% of it.

    I believe he will end up going away next year in FA and end up being a 3rd or 4th round comp pick for Seattle in 2017.

  46. Is this the same guy that was crying like a schoolgirl when Brady scored two 4th quarter TDs against the Seahawks back in Feb?

  47. The winners of close games don’t instigate fights–the angry losing side does. Check that SB tape again and look more closely. There was no “frustration” on the Pats side. I’ve watched Gronkowski for years now and he doesn’t instigate. He is more than happy to retaliate though.

  48. He’s a blunt person so he should get this:
    You’re not good enough to earn that type of an extension, Brucie.
    He’ll have to agree to a high-incentives, lower based salary to stick in Seattle for another season (this is what Carroll is basically saying).
    For a good team, they’ve missed on a lot of their first round draft picks.
    He’s close to the top of the list. He was a reach and they know it. Ergo, the current contract situation between Brucie and the front office.

  49. well fact is the seahawks don’t see 7.8 million reasons to have that on the books. not when Russell Wilson has to be extended. Also the Seahawks took Frank Clark with their first pick…..makes you wonder.

  50. And while coach Pete Carroll said over the weekend that he met with Irvin to explain the situation and …

    This is why Pete Carroll is a very good coach, but is not, and will never be, a great coach.

    “Pumped and jacked” will only take you so far. Once a team has tasted success it takes a leader of men to scale to the next level. Great leaders don’t have to explain their decisions to those they lead. They create an atmosphere of winning, define theirs role and value therein, and expect them to get on board on get on out. Case in point: Bill Belichick. His record speaks for itself.

  51. It’s hilarious to read the same folks predicting Seattle’s demise for the past 3 years, failed to predict Seattle’s best NFL team record the past 3 years. 3 straight years NFL best defense, 2 SB appearances. Who else has that? Only Seattle.

    Now, keep on predicting and hating…you’re on a roll…the thing about hatred is…It only hurts you. Preoccupied with things out of your control much?

  52. “Pumped and jacked” will only take you so far. Once a team has tasted success it takes a leader of men to scale to the next level.

    Of course cheating multiple times and having an owner who buys off the commissioner also helps.

  53. “Obviously a Harvard man.”
    ———-
    Obviously has already in his short lifetime has out earned what you’ll earn over your entire life. Hurts doesn’t it.

  54. Each draft is graded based on its own merit. It’s not like Kiper is sitting around going “I hate the Seahawks, so I have to say they drafted poorly.” That sentiment is about as ridiculous as people thinking announcers who are critical of their team “hate” their favorite team.

    I think what he meant is Kiper hates the Hawks’ picks.

    The year we drafted Irvin, Wagner and Wilson consecutively he gave us a C-.

    He’s waking up to the fact that the Hawks are just better than he is or than you or your team is at picking talent.

    And they are.

  55. skawh says:
    May 4, 2015 3:26 PM
    “Obviously a Harvard man.”
    ———-
    Obviously has already in his short lifetime has out earned what you’ll earn over your entire life. Hurts doesn’t it.

    ————–
    Nobody ever said one needs brains to have money….but at the end of the day, rich or not, this guy will still be a moron

  56. dpdonny has it right.

    We in New England know Pete Carroll very well. he inherited a Super Bowl team here in the late 90’s (with very significant young talent) and they got slightly worse every year he coached because they didn’t listen to him. Good coach, hell of a nice guy, but his Achilles’ heel will always be that, ultimately, he cannot command the respect of full grown men in the NFL, and he eventually loses the team because of a distinct lack of the RIGHT culture.

    It’s completely obvious already–watching and listening to the loudmouth, undisciplined, selfish players over there who cross the line (that ridiculous “poopdown” celebration comes to mind) far too often and why? No set of standards, and no line drawn in the sand that you don’t cross or you will be in the permanent doghouse and/or GONE.

    Only Bill Belichick has created such a standard and wields it with an iron fist.

    –no “me first” garbage
    –no trash-talking other teams through the media
    –the most boring interviews by players and staff in the history of the NFL
    –no bulletin-board material for other teams to build on
    –no second-guessing the coach behind his back

    i.e — RESPECT for coach and team ideals

    These points are just a part of the Patriot “system” that people refer too when they wonder why they’re great year in and year out–but an extremely important one for consistent excellence.

    Watching Lynch smile broadly and sarcastically as he walked by Carroll at the end of the SB last year, and it occurred to me–I can’t think of one player past or present that would dare do that to Belichick.

  57. wimpyburgers says:
    May 4, 2015 11:50 AM
    Bruce is a warrior, so what he says is understandable, even to the bigots and snarky posters.
    Irwin is a talented player. I think the Hawks did not get first round value out of him. Now they are trying to determine his true value.
    I hope everyone stays cool.
    ——————————————————————–
    Absolutley not! The “warrior” is the former military man they just signed to try and catch on as a long snapper. He is the only “warrior” on your team. The rest of the roster just plays football. Stop it already…Irvin is a not a warrior, not a bust, but he’s far from great…and clearly a moron and by his actions in the superbowl, a coward.

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