Troy Vincent to Brady: Accountable “no matter how accomplished”

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In dropping the hammer on the Patriots and Tom Brady Monday afternoon, the league made it clear that Brady’s standing in the league and the history of the game wasn’t going to help his case.

Brady was suspended the first four games of the season for his role in tampering with footballs in last year’s AFC Championship Game.

In the letter from NFL executive vice president Troy Vincent, it was spelled out that Brady’s actions and inactions were taken seriously.

“With respect to your particular involvement, the report established that there is substantial and credible evidence to conclude you were at least generally aware of the actions of the Patriots’ employees involved in the deflation of the footballs and that it was unlikely that their actions were done without your knowledge,” Vincent wrote in a letter to Brady. “Moreover, the report documents your failure to cooperate fully and candidly with the investigation, including by refusing to produce any relevant electronic evidence (emails, texts, etc.), despite being offered extraordinary safeguards by the investigators to protect unrelated personal information, and by providing testimony that the report concludes was not plausible and contradicted by other evidence.

“Your actions as set forth in the report clearly constitute conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in the game of professional football. The integrity of the game is of paramount importance to everyone in our league, and requires unshakable commitment to fairness and compliance with the playing rules. Each player, no matter how accomplished and otherwise respected, has an obligation to comply with the rules and must be held accountable for his actions when those rules are violated and the public’s confidence in the game is called into question.”

There will be an immediate impact for the team, but the greater harm may come to Brady’s reputation, which was previously simply that he was one of the best players in the history of the game.

154 responses to “Troy Vincent to Brady: Accountable “no matter how accomplished”

  1. Then he should’ve been suspended for more. Watch, they will knock it down to 2 which will be a slap on the wrist for Brady. The team is getting hit harder than he is.

  2. The precedent being set is you just have to be accused of something regardless of how strong the proof is to warrant a punishment. If thats the case fine, but be consistent.

  3. Perfect way to level the playing field…..Ex Jet employee Goodell must go!!!!FREE TOM BRADY!!!

  4. Congrats Tom Brady! You now will always be behind Montana in the greatest QB ever. Tainted Super Bowl(s).

  5. Welcome to the NFL everyone. Where you can commit murder, theft, rape, and domestic violence and get away with it. But if they think, you messed with air in a football, you’re gonna lose picks, get suspended, and fined a million dollars.

  6. I was positive they were going to sweep this under the rug since it’s Tom Terrific, but good for the NFL having a spine for a change. My favorite part? No first round pick in 2016 for you! LOL.

  7. “Your actions as set forth in the report clearly constitute conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in the game of professional football.”

    Same can be said about the actions of the league office…

  8. 4 games is nothing….
    his legacy is tainted forever…
    best qb of all time: questionable.
    best cheater of all time: absolutely

  9. I WAS a diehard Patriots fan. But I can no longer root or support a team that continually attempts to gain competitive advantages by breaking the rules.
    How do you teach your son right from wrong, the spirit of sportsmanship, and fair competition, yet openly support what Bob Kraft, Bill Belichik and Tom Brady have been doing over and over again?

    how do you explain as a parent that there are rules for a reason, and we must follow the rules, yet support a team with a culture of breaking the rules?
    Brady should have gotten a full season suspension.
    Kraft should be forced to sell the team.

    I am done. I am embarrassed by the Patriots. I am disgusted with them. I am disgusted with my fellow Patriots fans who continually make excuses for the habitual cheating ways of this franchise. I wonder if these fans allow their children to cheat in school and/or in their youth sports?
    I have always admired how Lamar Hunt started the AFL and built the league into a force that grew into the league we have today. Mr. Hunt even coined the term Super Bowl, of which each of the Patriots victories are forever tainted and unearned in my eyes.
    Lamar Hunt built the Kansas City Chiefs organization into the classiest in the league, built Arrowhead Stadium into the loudest in the league, thanks to their fans who are the best in the league. I have always admired the Chiefs fanbase for their class and hospitality.
    Andy Reid reputation is impeccable, unlike the shady demeanor of Belichik, and Andy Reid appears to have built a team that is destined to play in several Super Bowls over the next dozen years. There is no doubt in my mind that any and all Super Bowls won in the future as well as their past will be LEGITIMATE, unlike the Patriots.

    I beg of the Chiefs Nation to allow me into their family. I am now a Kansas City Chiefs fan. A fan of the team set to dominate the league beginning this season, and dominate without cheating

  10. The Jets and Dolphins finally get even. This will be the end of Jet’s PR man Roger Goodell

  11. So, blatant on-the-field cheating gets the same punishment as smoking a little weed in your free time. Glad to see the NFL has it’s priorities straight and really cares about the integrity of the game.

  12. With all the distractions of Deflategate, it makes one wonder what new dirty cheating plans are the Patriots drawing up now and will they be caught. Spygate, Deflategate is only the tip of the iceberg for these serial cheaters.

  13. If the league didn’t want the Pats to win their 5th ring, they should’ve suspended him for the year…. Now they’re gonna get a pissed off Brady in week 5… Watch out NFL

  14. Brady got off easy. If this was a spur of the moment attempt to gain advantage in a single game, it would be one thing. But the text messages make it evident that this was a systematic effort to circumvent the rules that had been going on for a long time. They may not have needed the advantage to beat the Colts, but every close game they’ve played in recent years, every team a deflated ball has aided them in making a tough catch or preventing or recovering an offensive fumble… those events mattered.

    The Patriots cheated. Again. Their legacy is forever tarnished.

  15. So sickening. The greatest QB to ever play tarnished by the psi difference which equates to that of a dollar bill. Hope the haters are happy. This is gross.

  16. All these bitter trolls are creaming themselves right now, but would be murderously angry if it happened to their team because deep down you know this is completely absurd no matter who you root for. Get a life people.

  17. Wait until the lawyers are done. Two readings? Attorney client communications on his phone? By relying on an obviously flawed report and imperious demands that FAR exceed what a prosecutor could demand, the NFL will be a laughingstock by the end of the summer.

  18. Here’s your problem with that. You have no proof. And people you have proof on got slaps on the wrist.

    Clearly Brady’s stature did matter as he is being punished much more harshly for something made up than others were for things they did on camera.

  19. I wonder how all this evidence will hold up against Gisele’s lawyers, having her husbands brand, therefore hers, slandered by these incompetent fools.

  20. “dropping the hammer” –

    more like dropping a soft teddy bear.

    Good to see drinking on a plane to vegas gets you a year but straight up years of cheating gets you 4 games.

    Good job Rog.

  21. No asterisk? No Super bowl trophy taken away? Patriot nation still on a super bowl victory high!!! See you Tommy in Week 3 after appeal and Tommy drops his law suit

  22. so the NFL’s message to the teams is that if you’re going cheat, cheat in such a way that help you win the superbowl. after that, the disciplinary action is just a few games. the NFL won’t revoke the rings!!!
    so cheat up guys!

  23. I totally remember when the Chargers players got suspended for their refusal to turn over their towels with the sticky stuff on them.

    Totally remember that.

  24. hey the Cowboys and Redskins got nailed a combined 35 million in cap space for a rule that never existed….Brady deserved this for knowingly stonewalling an investigation

  25. The two locker room guys pay the heaviest price…probably will lose their jobs. This is not justice.

  26. Perspective:

    He gets the same suspension that Ben Rothlissberger got for having sex without consent with a drunken stranger in a public bathroom, for the second time in less than one year.

  27. Can’t believe Belichick skates while Sean Payton was suspended for a year….Goodell took care of his good buddy Kraft by leaving Belichick out of this and throwing Brady under the bus. Kraft would much rather lose Brady for 2-4 games than lose Belichick for a year. As a repeat offender Belichick should have been suspended for more than a year.

  28. Good job nfl. Maybe you can win me back as a fan after all. Montana is now undisputed best. The best way to get out of a hole is to drop the shovel. Why dont people come clean from beginning His lying press conference was worse than the frivolous deflate gate balls.

  29. The league office is a joke.

    Roger Goodell is a clown.

    NFL justice is swift and severe for anyone who “probably” deflates a football.

    NFL justice is wishy-washy on domestic violence and violent crimes against children though.

  30. Based on a report which was produced by a company that used “science” to determine 2nd hand smoke does not cause cancer and abspteos does not cause cancer.

    Throw the science out there is no punishment

  31. So because Brady doesn’t comply with handing his phone to Lord Goodell and his cronies, he gets punishment.
    I hate Goodell.

    #FireGoodell

    I’m a Giants fan btw.

  32. I’m just glad that the Patriots will revert back to the NFL Mean at fumbling again…like in 2007.

  33. If the NFL gave a da*n about the credibility of the game they would not have allowed the 1st half of the AFC Championship to be played with footballs they had reason to believe were compromised.

  34. Now I don’t have to hear Pats fans talk about two fluky SB losses to the Giants. If you’re cheating rear ends used regulation balls, we would have creamed yous.

  35. m4hawk says: May 11, 2015 6:05 PM

    Good job nfl. Maybe you can win me back as a fan after all. Montana is now undisputed best
    —————————————————
    Montana played with Rice who admitted to cheating. I’m sure Montana was “generally aware” of it. So you didn’t like the NFL anymore because Brady was better than Montana. That’s sad.

  36. Fuhrer Goodell a former Jet employee. Main NFL executive behind Deframe gate is a former Jet employee. Todd wells used to be employed by the NFL. L.A. Company used to test balls is a well-known company used to get the results that their employer wants (LA times article published this about the company). Boy O Boy I can’t wait for Tommy’s lawsuit .

  37. In the past, the NFL has waited a lot longer to suspend a player, usually waiting until the last possible minute, which is inconvenient to the player and the team he plays for. I wonder why this one was so expedient?

  38. He should have come clean, lawsuit will put the ex pat employees on the stand and they’ll demand the phone. Just move on, Tommy Boy

  39. Troy Vincent, former Dolphins and Bills player.

    Is there *anyone* involved in this investigation not previously employed by an AFC East division rival?

  40. I have had it with the witch hunts against the Patriots. I hope Brady and the Patriots take this to Federal court where the NFL we be found to biased against one team, signaling out one individual and trying to take down one of the best franchises in the league. If you don’t think EVERY team in the league gets different competitive advantages that they key in on then you still believe in the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy. EVERY TEAM looks for a competitive advantage, EVERY TEAM was filming signals, EVERY TEAM has their quarterback say how he likes his football to feel. I have had it with Goodell, Vincent and the rest of the NEW YORK staffed NFL home office. Enough, TAKE THEM TO COURT TOM DON”T LET THIS GO! Read the report they have NO CONCRETE evidence. You ticked off the wrong organization Mr. Goodell, look for unemployment and YOUR tarnished image soon…..what a hypocrite!

  41. Vincent is known to have major issues with white people. Think Steven A Smith on steroids.
    .

  42. Should be suspended for home games vs Jets, Dolphins and Bills plus indy. Cheat in the playoffs make it much harder to get back to playoffs.

  43. Players bend and break the rules. If he did it he should have admitted it.
    Sad day in Pats Nation. It will be interesting to see how this shakes out.

  44. Fans chanted “Brady” and “MVP,” then gave him a standing ovation as he entered the arena in the town made famous by the colonial witch trials. Since the airing of the scandal in the hours after the Colts game, New England fans have been unwavering in their support for the team, blaming the investigation on grudges by opponents jealous of the team’s success.

  45. $1 million fine for the team is a joke. The team will save more than that in Brady’s lost salary.

    They should have hit them on the salary cap. Take $10 million a season for a few years. That would get their attention.

  46. He should have come clean, lawsuit will put the ex pat employees on the stand and they’ll demand the phone. Just move on, Tommy Boy
    ===
    What does he have to lose at this point?

    The NFL can’t tag him twice (see Ray Rice case). If he thinks he can spend $2MM on lawyers and win, then he’s going to sue. If there’s nothing damaging on the phone, he’ll beat that joke of a report on the basis of the testimony of NFL employees.

  47. The funny thing about these haters, if they were ever in a personal situation where they were accused of a crime and faced jail time, they would be more than happy to accept the decision of “more probable than not” if it meant they don’t go to jail.

    You would all beg your attorney to defend you like Brady’s agent did, you would welcome friends and family defending you as well, so stop being hypocrites. Fine, you hate the Patriots, you hate Brady, blah blah blah…weeeeeeeeee get it!!

    And spare the “I wouldn’t commit a crime” retort.

  48. Brady is a spoiled brat crybaby, and now a confirmed CHEATER. Tarnished FOREVER.

    *

  49. If the NFL thought that the footballs used in the AFC Championship game were deflated pre-game,why did they not confiscate them BEFORE the game? Because they wanted to stick it to Brady and the Patriots,,apparently.
    Ray Rice gets 2 games for K’Oing his wife,Brady gets 4 games and a million bucks for having a little air taken out of some footballs. Where is the balance?
    Ray Lewis gets a 250,000 fine for obstructing a murder investigation. Brady gets a million. Again,where is the balance? This whole thing is bogus.

  50. Jeff Saturday is crying as bad as Bruschi did! Brady cheated and got caught, and he had other evidence on his cell that he wouldn’t even turn over to his own attorneys!

    Cheater*

  51. And the front office goons that continue to leak garbage to the media get off without even a warning? Hypocrisy in full effect.

  52. Since the “team” punishment was so severe (two 1st rounders), I wonder if the Patriots management will push Brady to release his phone records.

    Think about it. If there is nothing there, then this places a massive amount of pressure on releasing what will ultimately exonerate them. So, then, if the Patriots decide against anything beyond a simple appeal, then it seems to tip their hand that Brady’s phone records really do have seriously incriminating evidence.

    This is just getting interesting….

  53. A lot of you just don’t get it. It’s not about a few PSI in a football. It’s about Brady’s outright refusal to cooperate with an internal investigation. I personally don’t care if he’s guilty. But, he should be fired for not cooperating. Oh, and by the way, he’s clearly guilty, otherwise he would have turned over his phone and cooperated.

  54. bradygirl12 says:
    May 11, 2015 6:23 PM

    Ray Rice gets 2 games for K’Oing his wife,Brady gets 4 games and a million bucks for having a little air taken out of some footballs. Where is the balance?
    ——
    Rice was suspended indefinitely, lost his contract, and is still unemployed. But nice try.

    And, Brady’s punishment is for not cooperating. He thought he was bigger than the NFL. He just found out he was wrong.

  55. Patriots, though officially recognized as serial cheaters, again were able to slide by as Goodell follows Kraft around the prison yard holding his pocket.

    “We’re on to the next illegal scam.”

  56. “Moreover, the report documents your failure to cooperate fully and candidly with the investigation, including by refusing to produce any relevant electronic evidence (emails, texts, etc.), despite being offered extraordinary safeguards by the investigators to protect unrelated personal information”

    How have those extraordinary safeguards worked out so far?

    It would be easier to produce a list of confidential information that wasn’t leaked.

    Tom knew that there was ZERO chance his personal info would be protected by these clowns and acted appropriately.

  57. rickdiculous1 says:
    May 11, 2015 5:57 PM
    Congrats Tom Brady! You now will always be behind Montana in the greatest QB ever. Tainted Super Bowl(s).
    ________________________________________

    Did you miss the part where Jerry Rice said he cheated with stickum?

    I believe he was also a San Francisco 49er.

  58. I wish I was a lawyer. Wells, Goodell Vincent will all have $300 million in Judgements for this severe defamation of character. And now you have pissed off Giselle. You slander her billion dollar brand her husband is part of? Goodbye Goodell! Have fun on welfare you soon to be unemployed putz!

  59. “The precedent being set is you just have to be accused of something regardless of how strong the proof is to warrant a punishment”

    Not even close, pal. You clearly didn’t read the post.

  60. JaminJake says:May 11, 2015 6:36 PM

    Did you miss the part where Jerry Rice said he cheated with stickum?

    I believe he was also a San Francisco 49er.
    _________________________________

    Great point!

    The 49ers should vacate all wins in which Rice played.

    And with that, the Bengals are now your Super Bowl XXIII Champions!!!!

  61. The Jets have been hit with tampering charges on multiple occasions. Were these past transgressions applied in their recent tampering charge? The NFL has an odd way of picking and choosing what constitutes a past offense. And that odd way is “if it’s the patriots, never forget.”

  62. This isn’t going to court. I don’t know in what planet you all live but Kraft is an owner. Brady will be suing the NFL and by proxy Kraft. Don’t be ridiculous. Goodell sleeps at Kraft’s house when he visits the Pats, you think Kraft won’t warn Brady about the destruction the league will bring to Brady’s image, the Pats, drag Belichick in to it, make the team lose focus. No guys, there is way too much money involved to fight this outside if league confines and Brady doesn’t care what Sully from Southie thinks and feels. This will go to league arbitration. Tom will show remorse, bend over, and take it for the team. They will reduce him down to 3 games and give the Pats their 4th rounder back. Goodell will continue to be comish and none of us matter in that decision. You can get mad, you can yell at each other, but at the end of the day, 32 billionaires own these teams. These teams DO NOT belong to you or me. You will continue to play fantasy, go to games, buy merch, and feed the machine. I don’t necessarily agree with all of the suspension but they shouldn’t have gotten caught again either. If you feel comfortable cheating you have to live with the consequences and be smart enough not to get caught. If you do, and not only does this open the door to crazy criticism, anger, jealousy, and suspensions. You better have someone you can throw to the wolves and little people like us and he better take it with a smile and humility. And Tom will do that and say thank you because Tom will be black balled and destroyed by the league if he doesn’t play along. You don’t mess with a $12B a year corporation. So scream, post angry, call your talk shows and make yourself feel better. But we are meaningless in this process and frankly we love football, so just let it go or stop watching.

  63. Furthermore, preaching on accountability in the shadow of Roger Goodell is a freakin’ joke. The man who couldn’t track down a casino elevator recording and flat out lied about it sits in the seat of power on Park Avenue. He signs your checks, Troy Vincent. Not only was Goodell’s deception far more obvious than Brady’s, it was far more egregious. And even if he truly didn’t know (which he did), it doesn’t matter. Why, Troy Vincent? Because Goodell must be accountable – no matter how accomplished.

  64. This is sooooo sweet. The stench of the pats organization is coming home to roost. Little tommy is tainted, his Super Bowl wins will be mentioned in the same sentence as “cheater”. Got what you deserved

  65. Brady should have coughed up those e-mails and texts. Now, Brady is simply “a detriment to the team.”

  66. indeaux says:
    May 11, 2015 5:58 PM
    4 games is nothing….
    his legacy is tainted forever…
    best qb of all time: questionable.
    best cheater of all time: absolutely
    ____________
    I actually think his coach is the best cheater of all time..
    The whole organization reeks–from the owner down. Anything else they win in the future will always be suspect.

  67. gibbo3884 says:
    May 11, 2015 6:36 PM
    I wish I was a lawyer. Wells, Goodell Vincent will all have $300 million in Judgements for this severe defamation of character. And now you have pissed off Giselle. You slander her billion dollar brand her husband is part of? Goodbye Goodell! Have fun on welfare you soon to be unemployed putz!
    ________________
    Bring on the lawsuit! Then his cell phone becomes evidence, and we’ll see who really was involved.

  68. It doesn’t seem like Brady was very accountable with only getting a 4 game suspension. The refusal to cooperate should have been at least that much by itself.

    It sounds as if you have something to hide it is better to not cooperate than it is to give them undeniable evidence, well at least if you are a star.

    Who doesn’t think that a scrub QB would have been gone an entire year for failing to cooperate?

    This penalty was a favor to Kraft.

  69. Not a Pats fan , but they didn’t beat the Colts with Brady. They dismantled the Colts with their defense. They beat the the Seahawks on level playing field. Just saying. The Super Bowl was tainted. Neither was the Colts game.

  70. The NFL is screwed in this one…….how many violations of basic constitution law did they just trample ?
    Yeah its a league but you still have rights and that anti trust exemption will be history

    This one is going Federal

  71. Lol at the Patriots fans who actually think the Pats are always being picked on and targeted. The fact is that your team is dirty from the top down and you are no longer getting a free pass. The league sees you for what we all do… FINALLY…how long until we hear ” Vincent played in Miami and Buffalo…. He’s biased”!!!!!

  72. Let’s play a game here: Pretend you are an NFL team, which transgression would you be more concerned about from a team you had just played and lost to:

    1) You find out the team had towels covered in Stickum on their sidelines.

    2) You find out the team was pumping in fake crowd noise when you were on offense.

    3) You find out the team had slightly deflated footballs prior to the game.

    Those first two choices have actually happened in the past few years and the punishment was way way smaller to the guilty teams.

    Anyone here with a shred of intellectual honesty would admit that of those 3 choices, deflated footballs are at the very bottom of the list in terms of affecting the integrity of the game.

  73. Last Year- Vikings caught warming footballs illegally. Penalty: Warning

    2012- Chargers caught using stickum to help recievers catch balls. Penalty: $25,000 fine

    2015- Patriots caught deflating footballs. Penalty: 4 game suspension for QB, $1M fine for team, 2 lost draft picks.

    And people on here are ranting about how the Patriots get “special” treatment from the league.

  74. Belichick was unnecessarily exonerated by Wells. He bears the same blame carried by the Saints and Falcons coaches and front office personnel.

    Remember when Blount revealed how Belichick meticulously scuffed, roughed up and wet practice balls? Well, doesn’t it hold that he would be involved with game ball setup, as well?

    Those saying Brady cooperated, should know that not turning over his phone is analogous to a suspected player rejecting a drug urinalysis. He is presumed guilty.

    Refusal to take a drug test brings discipline and so should Brady’s refusal. When you consider this in its totality, the Pats were handled with kid gloves.

  75. “The irony is… He didn’t have to cheat.”
    ————

    so true.
    And the irony is that Brady COULD have turned over evidence to refute the allegations

    And the Patties COULD have made their employees available for another meeting after the phones were turned over

    There is no irony that the Patties arrogance got the best of them. Again.

  76. Aaron Rodgers admits publicly to over inflating footballs knowing refs don’t check pressure. Who cares, he doesn’t play for the Patriot’s.

  77. I can’t understand the Pats fans that continue to say that this is a non issue. It’s absolutley relevent.

    Eli Manning himself said today that he experimented with a deflated ball (not in a game) and he could tell the difference. It certainly gives an offensive player an advantage to keep control of the ball, especially in cold weather.

    And sorry Deflatriot fans, there is no way Tom Brady didn’t know about this. The team got hit hard but 4 games is just a slap on the wrist for Brady. It really should have been more.

    But chin up. I’m sure B&B are working on their next rule bending initiative.

  78. Goodell next time you have a Ray Rice situation there will be no Bob Kraft appearing on TV to pump you up you disloyal dweeb. You’ve crossed BOB ‘sneakers’ Kraft.

  79. Who cares about the 4 games. If you’re like me you knew the league wasn’t going to give him the full year, which Brady rightly deserved.

    But, what I wanted more than anything was to see the name convicted cheater, liar, and Brady forever etched into the annals of history. Although I’m not happy Brady was only given 4 games, I’m content and at peace because Brady is now the ONLY professional QB to have convicted of CHEATING the game. That’s FOREVER!

  80. mobil4life says:
    May 11, 2015 7:15 PM
    Not a Pats fan , but they didn’t beat the Colts with Brady. They dismantled the Colts with their defense. They beat the the Seahawks on level playing field. Just saying. The Super Bowl was tainted. Neither was the Colts game.
    ——
    You just don’t get it. The SB was tainted because a known cheating team was allowed to advance to the SB. Duh!

  81. This would make sense if they could prove anything. Florid did a pretty good job over he last few days of showing that this isn’t cut & dried & for reasonable fans it looks like a vendetta without real proof. Fans of other teams should look at it as if it were their team. Would you want this standard of proof?

  82. Florio – You can paraphrase the title of this post in a few months after the appeal – it could go something like –
    Owners to Goodell (and minions) – Accountable no matter how accomplished.

    After he was shown to have completely screwed up the Ray Rice matter Goodell did his best Punxsutawney Phil impression by going underground for a few months to ride out the outrage. Hopefully this time he will not be so lucky. For a guy who is so obsessed with holding others to high standards he sure as heck screws things up a whole lot.

  83. Maybe he should have beat up his wife! Only 2 game suspension.

    He will get booed when he returns but the wife/girlfriend beaters will be cheered!

  84. skawh says:
    May 11, 2015 8:12 PM
    Who cares about the 4 games. If you’re like me you knew the league wasn’t going to give him the full year, which Brady rightly deserved.

    But, what I wanted more than anything was to see the name convicted cheater, liar, and Brady forever etched into the annals of history. Although I’m not happy Brady was only given 4 games, I’m content and at peace because Brady is now the ONLY professional QB to have convicted of CHEATING the game. That’s FOREVER!
    ————————————–
    Skawh – Sorry to burst your bubble, but Brady has not been convicted of a thing.

    I’m kind of glad that Goodell gave him 4 games and penalized the team so much. Had it been a $25k fine or the like the stink would have been the same on Brady and the Patriots but there would have been tremendous pressure to just accept the fine and move on.

    There is no way that Kraft or Brady will let this punishment go, and my guess is that they will be out for Goodell’s head.

  85. There was no doubt the Patriot balls were deflated with pure intent to violate a rule to gain a competitive advantage. How did the Colts know that the balls were going to be deflated if this was the first time Patriots did this. Investigation shows this was ongoing. The intent was there to cheats. The success of the cheating act is irrelevant. Face it Pat fans you got caught. No way done ball boy/equipment boy took this upon himself with out starting QB input. Brady knew and deserves punishment

  86. The fact he didn’t give up the texts and emails even having the safeguards of his lawyer overseeing spoke volumes to me. He knew what was in those. The nfl pays him and he works for them. Tom Brady is just another guy without the nfl….his employer. Try doing that to your employer and see how far you get.

  87. bradygirl12 says:
    May 11, 2015 6:23 PM
    If the NFL thought that the footballs used in the AFC Championship game were deflated pre-game,why did they not confiscate them BEFORE the game? Because they wanted to stick it to Brady and the Patriots,,apparently.
    Ray Rice gets 2 games for K’Oing his wife,Brady gets 4 games and a million bucks for having a little air taken out of some footballs. Where is the balance?
    Ray Lewis gets a 250,000 fine for obstructing a murder investigation. Brady gets a million. Again,where is the balance? This whole thing is bogus.

    ********************************************************************************************************

    A lot of you guys REALLY don’t get it. Comparing what guys do in their PERSONAL lives to what Brady has done in his PROFESSIONAL life is Apples to Oranges.

    Granted, what Ray Rice/A.Peterson has done is deplorable and certainly makes me view them differently as men.

    Yet, I still view them both as valiant gladiators on the football field.

    However, Brady has shown the entire world exactly what kind of Man he is too! He’s not a Stand Up Guy!

    BRADY IS A LIAR & A CHEATER.

    PERIOD.

    POINT.

    BLANK.

  88. Mr. Vincent,

    Tom Brady has strong reason to suspect that employees in the NFL office have used their email and cell phones to post lewd messages about his wife. As such communications would certainly be in violation of corporate policy, action must be taken. Please have all employees of the NFL League office turn in their cell phones for review and have the IT department prepare a report with any/all email mentioning Tom and/or Gisele.

  89. “It’s more probable than not” that:
    1. Tom Brady had his footballs deflated or inflated to an unspecified Number only known by the ball boys. To a level where they felt “Right” to him as a QB.
    2. Ditto for every single QB in the NFL who is worth a darn.
    3. Roger Goodell was lying through his teeth about knowing about, or seeing the elevator tapes in the Ray Rice case. Who punishes, fines or suspends him for “conduct detrimental to the integrity of the game”?
    4. Ted Wells (a useful political tool) knew Scooter Libby was guilty of every charge made against him. But chose not to share that information with Federal Investigators

    I could go on with a few choice other hypocrisy’s. But why? There is really zero integrity by anyone involved in this dustup. This whole contrived, dirty, sore loser vendetta (Baltimore Ravens & Indy Colts) should never have risen to a level more than the Maximum $25, 000 fine allotted to its insignificance in the NFL Rule Book. IMO the NFL have rules that trumps its players constitutional rights. They can convict and punish people based on a “hunch”; without any proof; or perceived lack of cooperation.

  90. kagey7 says:
    May 11, 2015 9:18 PM

    The fact he didn’t give up the texts and emails even having the safeguards of his lawyer overseeing spoke volumes to me. He knew what was in those. The nfl pays him and he works for them. Tom Brady is just another guy without the nfl….his employer. Try doing that to your employer and see how far you get.

    >>>>>

    The two people “implicated” in any possible, maybe, we think, more probably than not wrongdoing did have their texts reviewed…nothing in them provides any real evidence they did anything but possibly make sure the balls were not overinflated, following the game against the Jets.

    Both sides seem to differ on the parameters that were laid out for Brady as to which texts/emails he could provide…if you believe Wells, Brady cold have reviewed the texts himself and chosen which to turn over…if he reviewed them, saw nothing that was related and told them there were no relevant texts, he would have been looked upon with the same skepticism as now.

  91. Extraordinary measure to protect Bradys personal information?….. LOL. Is this the same NFL, that leaks information daily to ESPN?

    Why wasn’t troy Vincent fired for lying to AP?

  92. Simple test!
    Will anyone who has never exceeded the post speed limit on any road, while driving an automobile, please cast the first verbal stone at Tom Brady. It’s cheating the law you know. And treated cavalierly with equal attitude by all. Judge not, lest ye be judged!

  93. I’m still trying to wrap my head around the idea the league did this to ensure integrity of the game. They had a chance to take corrective action on New England before the playoffs even started just so they could play the gotcha game with New England later on? It does not sound like they really care about the integrity of the game to me. New England wasn’t framed but this still isn’t justice at the end of the day.

  94. ampats says:
    May 11, 2015 6:09 PM
    Enjoy the Opening Thursday Night Game:
    No Brady No Banner
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    Well, seems ampats doesn’t like it when others hang labels on HIS quarterback without any basis to back it up.

    Go figure.

  95. I would jump on your bandwagon if you weren’t “covering up” the fact that you have always been a Chiefs’ fan, and you are writing this as a Chiefs’ fan hiding behind your computer posing as a dejected Patriots’ fan. C’mon man! Talk about the pot n kettle…good grief!

  96. Why did Tom and Bill even think of cheating when they had–and have–very, very good teams? They would have won those particular Super Bowls anyway. The repugnance and arrogance of both of them makes me think 4 games for Brady is a light punishment.

  97. Everything forever will be tarnished, including their future…. NE has flaunted the rules for a long time and its just a shame, they may not have had to….too many instances to ever take their SB wins seriously and TB and BB should never even sniff the HOF. Seriously how can anyone ever believe the whole stretch was legitimate? How can anyone believe the future with will be legit as long as RK, BB and TB are running the show? I think all objective people will likely think the Pats are getting off easy based on past history…smh

  98. Brady should have used the Clinton method regarding e-mails. Released all his e-mails after “his lawyers” reviewed them and destroyed all “non relavent” e-mail. This way he could not be accused of not cooperating.

  99. lukedunphysscienceproject says:
    May 11, 2015 7:32 PM
    Last Year- Vikings caught warming footballs illegally. Penalty: Warning

    2012- Chargers caught using stickum to help recievers catch balls. Penalty: $25,000 fine

    2015- Patriots caught deflating footballs. Penalty: 4 game suspension for QB, $1M fine for team, 2 lost draft picks.

    And people on here are ranting about how the Patriots get “special” treatment from the league.
    ================

    Oh, and might I add the instance where Brad Johnson of the Buccaneers got caught red handed doctoring footballs at the Super Bowl and got fined $7,500.

  100. I’m a Cardinals fan and have no rooting interest in the Pats, but this sure seems like a heavy handed penalty for “he probably did it”.

    Richard Sherman tested positive for PEDs, but got off because the bottle leaked and it raised the extremely unlikely scenario that maybe the sample was compromised. If they can prove he really did it suspend him for the year (or longer), but if they can’t prove it they just have to suck it and fix the system.

  101. georgeremus says:
    May 11, 2015 6:05 PM
    Can’t believe Belichick skates while Sean Payton was suspended for a year….Goodell took care of his good buddy Kraft by leaving Belichick out of this and throwing Brady under the bus. Kraft would much rather lose Brady for 2-4 games than lose Belichick for a year. As a repeat offender Belichick should have been suspended for more than a year.
    ————————–

    The main difference between Belichick and Payton in their respective cases is that the Saints incident involved the coaching staff in a locker room. The Patriots incident involved the QB behind closed doors. That’s the only reason I’m ok with Belichick not being suspended

    As for Brady, the only way I think he wins any sort of appeal is to turn over the electronic communication he refused to provide during the investigation. Part of the reason for his suspension was failing to provide that information. However, I have a feeling if he were to provide the information, it would only incriminate himself. Either way, the suspension should hold up on appeal. He either continues to fail to cooperate or he cooperates and incriminates himself.

  102. It’s kind of refreshing to see the league V.P. Vincent level the charges instead of Goodell . It’s a far cry from the Goodell/Meuller debacle we fans had to endure. It’s as if the league’s top personnel got together and said ‘This is adult business, Rog, you can remain under your desk.’ It’s an ugly situation that the league didn’t want to make any uglier by involving Goodell.

  103. Tom Brady walks into a bar. He sees some friends, who wave him over. He sits down next to Barry Bonds, Sammy Sosa, Mark McGuire. “Welcome to the club!” they all say in unison. “Where’s Bill?” Tom says. “Oh we kicked Belichick out” says Barry. “He was pissing us off!”

    The ultimate cheaters club. Congrats Pats fans!!!!!!!!!!!

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