Eli on Brady: I hate seeing him suspended, but you must follow the rules

AP

Giants quarterback Eli Manning, who squared off with Patriots quarterback Tom Brady in two Super Bowls, takes no pleasure in seeing Brady suspended. But Manning saw it coming when he learned from the Deflategate report that Brady had broken the rules of the NFL.

“I don’t like to see anybody get suspended, I don’t like to see anybody get in trouble, so in no way am I glad to see this happen,” Manning said, via the New York Daily News. “I think it is about integrity and you have to follow the rules. So if someone’s breaking rules I understand they’re going to get punished.”

Manning read some of the Ted Wells report and expected the league to come down hard on Brady, who will miss the first four games of the season.

“Obviously it didn’t look good,” Manning said. “I figured something like this may happen.”

After hearing about Deflategate, Manning threw some underinflated footballs out of curiosity.

“Yeah, there is a difference,” he said. “A noticeable difference.”

Manning stressed that he respects Brady and said he doesn’t think this punishment will tarnish Brady’s legacy. Even if Brady has just become the highest-profile NFL player ever to be suspended for breaking the rules.

121 responses to “Eli on Brady: I hate seeing him suspended, but you must follow the rules

  1. Let’s hear it Pats fans … Eli is just jealous of Tom Brady even though he beat his cheating butt twice in the super bowl.

  2. I fully agree that Brady should be suspended.

    The big question coming out of this whole incident, though, is whether or not there should be an acceptable level of inflation variance when it comes to game footballs, or whether or not every game ball should be standardized.

  3. Like playing with a Nerf ball. Easy to catch and can’t be fumbled.

  4. Someone said it before but Paul Hornung was suspended a year for gambling.

    “The first in pro football history to win the Heisman Trophy, be selected as the first overall selection in the NFL Draft, win the NFL most valuable player award, and be inducted into both the professional and college football halls of fame.”

  5. From the beginning this has been framed in the reporting as a Brady/QB issue with the deflated balls, but where deflated balls really count is the non fumbling statistics of Patriot ball carriers since the rule for team QB’s to manipulate the balls in the week leading to the game (2007). Since then the Patriots fumble waaay less than evryone else including dome teams (controlled weather conditions). Guys who don’t fumble in New England go to new teams and fumble at the normal rates (not a secret technique that only Pat coaches know). You can better squeeze deflated balls. Brady is falling on the sword for the Art of War student Belicheck.

  6. Says the guy that blew up the draft just to land in a bigger media market. This whole thing is like something out of Alice in a Wonderland. “Sentence first, verdict later!”

  7. Of course it tarnishes his legacy – unless you don’t consider being an undisputed cheater to be a stain on one’s legacy. Kraft, Belicheck, Brady & Patriots are all stained as verified cheaters now. Accept that reality, for it is FACT!

  8. ‘Yeah, there is a difference. A noticeable difference’

    Nowhere near enough punishment. They won the freaking Super Bowl after deliberately circumventing the rules to gain a ‘noticeable difference’ in how it feels throwing the ball. Don’t tell me this isn’t a big deal.

    They beat the Ravens in a game that could not have been any closer. They passed on EVERY play in the second half. And the QB had the balls altered because he would feel a ‘noticeable difference’. I don’t see how that championship isn’t absolutely tainted. And maybe should be vacated, as the NCAA does for seemingly less serious violations.

  9. The Mannings re Brady :

    Peyton : Tom Brady is my friend

    Eli : He cheated. I know it . Next question!
    .

  10. Of course Eli throws underinflated footballs, he plays his home games in NY.
    He will throw underinflated footballs later this coming season, against the rules, as he always does
    if they were inflated at room temp and start out at around 13 PSI. Fact.

  11. Of course there is a difference. If there was no difference why would the rule book be specific? And more importantly, if there was no difference why would Brady go thru such extreme efforts and risk involving many other parties covertly?

    Anybody else…suspension for a year.

    Different Rules,
    T-Sizzle

  12. Eli “Read some of the report”.
    I can understand why Eli thinks Brady is guilty since he only read some of the report.
    Wells established guilt early in the report and then proceeded to undermine that determination with evidence and facts as the report dragged on.
    I expect most people only read “some of the report”.

  13. Don’t have to follow rules if you’re the Falcons. Pipe in crowd noise for 2 years and lose 0 draft picks, punishments are totally random, all fun and games until it’s your team

  14. If Eli Manning can actually say he read the Wells report and STILL believes Brady cheated, he’s a bigger dope than I gave him credit for.

    Every NFL quarterback should realize that the Wells report doesn’t prove one single ball was deflated, and any quarterback worth a lick knows that Brady completely DECIMATED the Colts in the second half of that game, with unquestionably correct footballs, and that he led an amazing fourth quarter Super Bowl win over the vaunted Seattle Seahawks defense with 100% legal footballs.

    The Giants beat the Patriots in two very close Super Bowls, and I’ll give them credit for that, but Eli Manning isn’t fit to carry Tom Brady’s lunch box, let alone pass judgment on him, and Manning KNOWS this every time he looks in a mirror.

    Dope.

  15. Wait, a “noticeable difference”???? B/c all the pats fans say this is ‘negligible’ and has no bearing on how he grips or throws the ball.

  16. Get over it. If they have been doing this since 2007 (like the crybabies say) why is it in 8 years no one has ever said anything before this? Brady has thrown int’s the Patriots have turned it over.

  17. Sorry Eli but really? I mean Brady came out of nowhere to become one of the greatest QB’s of all time. He did not have his daddy’s name to rely on and move him around and play games on draft day. He just went where he was drafted and then seized his opportunity. No you shouldn’t say anything. No comment would have sufficed. Brady is no spoiled brat looking like somebody ran over his puppy like you did when you were drafted by the Chargers. No Brady doesn’t have his dad to dig him out with his pedigree. He will deal with it. He always does.

  18. Check the patriots fumbling data. Sharp football analysis gives a great report about the incredible decrease in fumbling rate the patriots experienced starting in 2007.

  19. Sorry Eli, but the experts here who defend cheating say there isn’t a difference in an under inflated football.

    Who are you and what have you done that qualifies you to speak on the matter… /sarcasm

  20. “Um golly gee, I’m not sure. Um, I can’t really say. But um, ya know. Yea, if the rules say, um, air pressure. Gee willakers, he sure seems like a nice guy, but um, you know, um gotta follow the rules, that’s what mom says.”

  21. You’re goddamn right it makes a difference. Brady was just a mere good QB who was clutch in the playoffs until he successfully lobbied for the ball preparation ability, which caused his stats to immediately explode through the roof to historic levels while also drastically reducing his fumbles and INTs. Dude should be suspended for the entire season and barred from the HOF if there’s justice.

  22. Hey Eli I hate to see how crappy a QB you’ve turned into. Obviously your brother got the brains in the family. FREE TOM BRADY!!!!!

  23. After hearing about Deflategate, Manning threw some underinflated footballs out of curiosity.

    “Yeah, there is a difference,” Eli said. “A noticeable difference.”
    ——————————————–

    Tom Brady knew there was a noticeable difference too…he’s a competitor and he crossed the line to gain a competitive advantage. Brady got caught and then tried to cover it up, so he wouldn’t get suspended for Super Bowl XLIX. Do the Patriots win Super Bowl XLIX with Jimmy Garoppolo at QB? I doubt it.

    4th ring and another Super Bowl MVP, and all you got to do is sit out 4 games to start the next season. Lie to the media and NFL and hide behind your lawyers, owner, and agent. The Brady apologist will come out of the woodwork to defend their boy…maybe Gisele got a friend for you if you stick up for her man enough. Who knows what everyones motives are. Gisele, that’s Michael Irvin on line 2….

  24. Eli could care less…. hes wearing two rings that Brady wants… Glad to see the NFL’s poster child get this treatment… although i think hes only gonna be suspended 2 games…

  25. If you don’t believe that this will tarnish Brady’s image, then you have a petty low opinion of the values of the average NFL fan. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid, Eli!

  26. After hearing about Deflategate, Manning threw some underinflated footballs out of curiosity.

    “Yeah, there is a difference,” he said. “A noticeable difference.”
    =====================================

    That settles that argument, Pats fans.

  27. abninf says:
    May 12, 2015 8:59 AM
    After hearing about Deflategate, Manning threw some underinflated footballs out of curiosity.

    “Yeah, there is a difference,” he said. “A noticeable difference.”
    =====================================

    That settles that argument, Pats fans.

    If it settles the argument then why does A. Rogers like his footballs over inflated or at the high end.
    It’s nothing more than a personal preference.

  28. September football is overrated anyway. Last year, the Cincinnati Bengals were the best team in the league at the end of week 4.

  29. If there was such a big difference the referees would have noticed it. They handle the balls every play. Manning probably deflated them by half. The .5 change is imperceptible

  30. Things would have gone easier for Tommy Boy if he had cooperated with the investigation.

  31. flash1287 says:
    May 12, 2015 9:13 AM

    It shows that overinflation OR underinflation makes a big difference. Some prefer more inflated, but Rodgers plays WITHIN the rules. He has never altered a ball after it was inspected and approved- thats the difference. And underinflated balls are easier to hold onto- hence the incredibly low fumble rate despite playing in a cold weather, outdoor stadium. Packers players have it rougher b/c their qb tends to like balls inflated to the max allowed. And yes refs handle the balls, but they arent gripping them as someone is trying to stripp it, and they arent gripping it to throw it as hard as they can- to say they “should know” is just ridiculous.

  32. All I know is the Giants play by the rules. See how many INTs Eli has thrown throughout his career or all the fumble problems are RB’s have historically had. Funny how every RB that went to the Patriots suddenly never fumbled a day in their life.

  33. Wouldn’t it be great to find out in the Pats-Giants first Super Bowl matchup that one of the Pats deflated balls mistakenly got into the game at the end during the Giants possession and it was that ball that Tyree was able to pin against his helmet?

  34. Brady is done, just like Bruschi and Vrabel were done right after Spygate. Those two, “smart veteran LB who always seemed to know where the play was going” were out of the league within two years of not being able to know the other teams signals. Now that Brady has a level playing field, FINALLY, he will finish this year out, and will try one more year after this season to prove it wasn’t the cheating and realize it extended his career and ride off into the asterisk sunset and become neighbors with Barry Bonds.

  35. fafaflunky says:
    May 12, 2015 8:38 AM

    didnt you say that you scuff balls..pratice what you preach..
    ——————————————————–
    You do understand that there is a major difference between scuffing a football and deflating one?

    Scuffing just allows for a better grip, he’s not changing the weight of the ball.

  36. followme2boston says:
    May 12, 2015 9:36 AM
    Brady is done, just like Bruschi and Vrabel were done right after Spygate. Those two, “smart veteran LB who always seemed to know where the play was going” were out of the league within two years of not being able to know the other teams signals. Now that Brady has a level playing field, FINALLY, he will finish this year out, and will try one more year after this season to prove it wasn’t the cheating and realize it extended his career and ride off into the asterisk sunset and become neighbors with Barry Bonds.

    —–

    Explain to all of us how taping D signals helped the Patriots D?

    If you don’t know what you are talking about don’t comment.

    And Brady seemed to play pretty well in the SB against he best D in the NFL

  37. I am glad that someone with expert quarterback knowledge stuck his neck out & struck the right balance on the subject. He actually did his own mini-investigation of the results of under-inflation. I hope this is all true & not just one brother helping another brother’s organization that is a rival of guilty party.

  38. ummm dies anyone know who Steven Ridley is? He fumbled like crazy in New England and got benched on a few occasions because of it. So all this the pats never fumble stuff is a trash argument. Second point. Brady threw a pick with an under inflated ball then went 28-0 in second half. O and last but not least For all you even playing field mentioners. Try the SB 4 tds over 100 passer rating againsT number 1 d. Please hate the greatness!

  39. thefootballgodssay says:
    May 12, 2015 8:25 AM

    ELI OWNS TOMMY AND BILLY SEE YOU CHEATERS WEEK 10

    pinkmist4 says:
    May 12, 2015 9:58 AM

    Eli OWNS the Patriots

    Brady 4 super bowl rings
    BOTH Mannings 3 combined.

    Pats will see you week 10 it’s too bad that will be your super bowl game seeing as Giants can’t make playoffs every year.

  40. What you all don’t know is that the Giants have an anti deflation team headed by Reflator who intercepted the balls after the Deflator took the super bowl balls into the bathroom and returned them to legal levels. Brady has always been a 14 ppg qb.

    It wasn’t the Giants great 27th ranked defense that won those games. It was our anti-cheat personnel. Don’t you know we know all of belichicks tricks?

  41. Remember when Tom Coughlin faked injuries? I suppose that’s just “gamesmanship,” right? I remember Coughlin denying the charges, which I think we all know was a lie.

    BAN COUGHLIN 4 LIFE, INTEGRITY OF THE GAME.

  42. “didnt you say that you scuff balls..pratice what you preach..”
    ________________________________________

    It seems like every desperate Pats apologists points to Eli Manning and Aaron Rodgers. It’s pathetic. There is NOTHING illegal about breaking in balls within the rules. The Giants were doing something so illegal, they let a NYTimes reporter write an entire article about their practice. LOL. These Pats fans have lost their minds.

    QBs break in their footballs amd have preferences. The point is, MOST OF THEM dont have their ball boys alter ref approved games balls. Brady himself knew he’d been caught. He then lied and then stonewalled the investigation.

    Eli being classy as ever and, when needed, outspoken.

  43. The Patriots fumbled far less on the road than at home-every year since 2007

  44. Fake injuries on one play.
    Use fugazi football for entire career

    Yeah. There’s little difference there

  45. patsfan4xchamps,
    Not a Giants fan, just pointing out fact. How can you be the GOAT when you lost to the same guy in the super bowl TWICE?!?
    How many did Montana lose??

  46. As neither a TB hater nor fan (as he’s from friggin Michigan after all so he already is in the hole IMO), I have come to respect him as a QB. Under inflated balls or not, that still doesn’t take away his ability to make reads of defenses, look off receivers, move around in the pocket/avoid the heat, and throw the passes he does. I know Eli says it makes a difference, but some say it’s no big deal throwing. Catching maybe, and carrying the ball too. But I don’t think this takes away from his ability as a QB. Just takes away from his integrity and character. He did win the SB using “regulation” balls.

    I’m still don’t understand why the NFL doesn’t supply a uniform ball. If something is that critical and they want fair/level competition, it’s not like they can’t afford them or something. They should supply and monitor them. Maybe they will now. No other sport allows teams to use their own in head-to-head competition. A major league pitcher doesn’t bring the baseball he prefers to the mound with him. When da Bulls got a rebound, Jordan didn’t get to ask for his own ball and switch it out.

    I’m sure though that untold players and coaches have done things to give them a competitive edge somewhere. Brady/Pats are just the ones to get caught. No sympathy here. That said, Spygate should have gotten this maximum penalty instead. That was obscene. This was a witch hunt and a make-up call for missing it last time.

  47. hahaicansezbelicheat says:
    May 12, 2015 10:20 AM
    Remember when Tom Coughlin faked injuries? I suppose that’s just “gamesmanship,” right? I remember Coughlin denying the charges, which I think we all know was a lie.

    BAN COUGHLIN 4 LIFE, INTEGRITY OF THE GAME.
    _______________________

    I don’t think he’s faking, that’s just called old age.

  48. Eli keeps it simple – FOLLOW THE RULES or you could get punished.

    Nice of Eli considering Brady dissed him before SB42. What a D-Bag.

  49. Eli’s no saint it’s been known around the league he likes his balls like sandpaper so he can bet a better grip. You should ask Eli as the team roughs up the pigskin incredibly to get it how he likes.

    He’s two rings behind Brady and Brady is pulling away from the Pack so this is their only way of chasing him.

    Why don’t you ask Eli how he’s done against Seattle’s D. Absolutely has embarrassed the Manning family. Ask Seattle’s D who’s the greatest QB of all time and I’m sure they’ll say 100% after that historical 4th QTR. performance from the GOAT that it’s Tom Brady.

    Be in denial all you want. You know all teams have been doctoring balls but NE wins and blows pee wee teams like the Colts out and they can’t stand it anymore so they go crying home to daddy and then daddy whistle blows on what every QB has been doing.

    Go ask Aaron Rodgers how his equipment team likes his balls.

  50. Come on Pats fans.

    I’m sure you have something stupid to say about how a 2x time Supeberbowl winning QB doesn’t know anything about a difference in throwing balls bc he’s had a lot of interceptions the past few seasons.

    Don’t let those victories over the Pats sting too much!

  51. Not a giants or patriots fan, but it is undeniable the irony here: Goofy Eli ALWAYS seems to get the better of Brady.

    In Super Bowls, he is 2-0 against Brady.

    Count this comment from Eli as 3-0.

    Must drive patriots fans crazy……..

  52. In today’s game you either find an edge or you hope to be lucky . Eli likes to be lucky . Notice not many qb’s are talking. Green bay get ready. Since your qb is in print saying he over inflates footballs. pay the fine, serve the time and move on.

  53. Just goes to show that even though Golden Boy cheats, he can’t beat Eli and the Giants. They proved that twice in two Super Bowls.

    What’s that I hear? Silence from the Pats fans! LOL!

    #crickets

  54. “Eli’s no saint it’s been known around the league he likes his balls like sandpaper so he can bet a better grip. You should ask Eli as the team roughs up the pigskin incredibly to get it how he likes.”
    _______________________________________

    Pats fans, please, repeat after me for your own good–“BREAKING IN FOOTBALLS IS NOT ILLEGAL” Just. Wow. The delusion is unbelievable. Lol.

  55. A modification is a modification nonetheless….any manipulation of the football is WRONG!! Oh, so there is no rule saying you cant place the balls in the clothes dryer or microwave, but guess what teams do it….all the time. If the NFL took its own policy seriously the balls would have never been in the hands of the QBs. They should ALL use balls provided by the league. It is not a shocker that QB stats have gone through the roof since the rules inception. it seems like the NFL administration was enjoying the bank all while having some knowledge that TEAMS quite possibly are bending the rules (San diego sticky towels, car/min, maybe even ARodg). Not unlike the steroid epidemic in baseball. The NFL and MLB were negligent in their supervision because of the almighty dollar. Tom will and should take the fall before things get uglier. I have a feeling that if Tom wants this decision overturned hes going to have to give people up, and frankly even as a Pats fan I wouldn’t ever want for any QB to go through this. Just my opinion but this thing has may not be as small as us Pats fans consider, but it definitely is not as big an issue as some people make it. Respect to all. Have a healthy preseason everyone. Lets get back to some football and tune out this media garbage…that’s why we watch football anyway, right?

  56. How dare he smite the golden boy. The pats fans must now call for his removal.

  57. Eli is the LAST person who should be talking. No player since Elway disturbed parity, tradition, and the integrity of the game than Eli Manning. He should have gone to the Chargers rather than to a perennial contender which conveniently posted its worst record in decades just to make his theft palatable (they picked 4th that year).

  58. That’s awesome. Brady got called out by Gomer Pyle who just also happened to embarrass him in 2 Super Bowls. Does it get any worse?

  59. “Eli is the LAST person who should be talking. No player since Elway disturbed parity, tradition, and the integrity of the game than Eli Manning. He should have gone to the Chargers rather than to a perennial contender which conveniently posted its worst record in decades just to make his theft palatable (they picked 4th that year).”

    ____________________________________________

    Every single player has the right to reject a team on draft day. Their life. Their career. Nothing illegal there. You forgot Jim Kelly, btw.

  60. You can tamper with the footballs all you want but AFTER the referee has inspected and approved them, they are off limit. In other words tampering with signed and approved footballs is cheating. There is no other way to look at it.

  61. And you, Eli, have been breaking the rule saying no scatterarmed five year old wimpy lids can play QB in the NFL for tears now. When are YOU suspended, you little twerp?

  62. azarkhan says:
    May 12, 2015 2:09 PM
    Eli Manning = Gomer Pyle. LOL
    ———————————————————
    Gomer Pyle with 2 Super Bowl MVP’s. Including engineering last minute drives in both games. One was against an undefeated team that was called the GOAT before that game.

    Hey azarkhan, don’t be upset over 18-1, still one hell of an accomplishment! LOL

  63. This thread is amazing. When your integrity is flawed, everything is questioned.

    Brady will never recover. Retire and go into hiding you fraud!!!!

  64. you said

    trollaikman8 says:
    May 12, 2015 12:54 PM

    #Rekt

    I love how Eli owns Brady.

    Follow the rules chump. Even a slow adult like Eli is clowning the golden boy.

    First of all, it is unacceptable to make fun of someone with a learning disability. Eli has a high IQ and is smart but he has a learning disability and a developmental delay but he is a class act all the way and a gentleman. if everyone was like eli, the world would be a better place

    ELI )= class act
    BRADY = GOAT

  65. I don’t like Eli Manning.

    But he’s such a simpleton that I don’t think it’s in him to lie about how he feels.

    And in this case, he’s 100% correct. “you have to follow the rules”

  66. Hahahahaha at wen Brady wins his fith ring ways the excuse gna be then he’s got special shoes u Brady patriot haters r some Crybaby’s hahahaha cheat don’t cheat its alllll good baby can at the end of the day we can go look at those Lombardi trophies an six championship trophies and just …..well smile real big cash we know deep down inside u guys know u suck so bad haha so we will let u have this moment haha .

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